And I'm not sure what exactly you mean by saying there needs to be an international qualifiers... because there is one for the wildcard. SEA has earned permanent seeds through winning S2 though.
Have a tournament before the worlds championship that features the 4th seeds from every major region and the international wildcard winners squad plus maybe invite 3rd seed SEA since they only have 2 teams for worlds, throw the last spot to the region with the previous winners of worlds. The tournament would look like this
4th NA
4th EU
4th CHN
4th KR
3rd SEA
Wildcard winner PAX
Wildcard winner Gamescon
5th KR
A possible double round robin for 2 groups and top 2 of each group advance to bracket stage and the finalists have a spot for worlds. This ensures that skilled teams are rewarded but at the same time, the viewers get to watch different regions at play in international tournaments
On AHQ: As much as I like them, their group was by far the easiest group even though they didn't have a wildcard team. You had SK with the Svenskeren debacle which pretty much meant SK was out, you had SHRC a chinese team playing with two koreans meaning their communication is very poor (acknowledged to be a problem by the team themselves). TSM is the only "consistent team" but their players are hit and miss. You're banking on lustboy and turtle to have synergy on that particular day and for turtle to not choke because he is inconsistent lately. Dyrus has shown that if he goes on tilt, he is one of the biggest liabilities to the team. Amazing has a meh champion pool and also hit and miss days.
On ALL vs Kabum: ALL didn't prepare at all for this game, their draft was poor and ALL team comp pretty much folded to the morgana pick. As much as I think Wildcard teams don't belong at worlds, the individual skill differences is actually pretty low. The only thing that separates world championship caliber teams and wildcard teams is the strategy in drafting and the strategy in game (think rotations). Normally ALL should win both but that's what happens when you draft poorly and underestimate skill. Seriously, they took an all in comp against a team with Morgana, Ryze, and Ahri. Either ALL is really cocky, unprepared, or inconsistent themselves or a combination of the three.
Except Kabum has had consistently good drafting, that's not even one of their weaknesses. ***** they just actually banned lee sin and irelia against ALL, I think that might've been the first game both of those were banned against them for some strange reason. Alliance did kinda **** up that draft but their comp would've worked if they didn't have to defend such strong sieges (if they didn't let kabum take such a big lead).
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Banning Lee Sin and Irelia should have been the default bans against Alliance coming into this tournament. Wickd was spamming Irelia nonstop in KR solo queue and his second most picked champion in EU LCS is Irelia with Shyvana taking first. Since Shyvana is no longer in the meta and Irelia is, she should've been auto banned every game. Also, Shook's go to champion in LCS was also Lee sin. Either people ban it or pick it up themselves. I'd argue what Kabum did should've been considered the norm, Everyone else just ****ed up
Wow, no EU team made it to the quarterfinal. I'm pretty suprised.
I was honestly expecting FNC to make it, but looks like OMG were just too strong in the end. I was thinking that ALL would go down, because I feel that they either get the picks they want, or go bust. This is different from C9 because C9 in general is very, very good at not tilting and keeping cool(tiebreaker match and win against NWS explains most of that) and they are usually pretty consistent in what they do and what their gameplan is.
Gratz to all the teams that make it, but I really hope that NWS wins and that one of the NA teams make it to the quarterfinals.
Wow, no EU team made it to the quarterfinal. I'm pretty suprised.
I was honestly expecting FNC to make it, but looks like OMG were just too strong in the end. I was thinking that ALL would go down, because I feel that they either get the picks they want, or go bust. This is different from C9 because C9 in general is very, very good at not tilting and keeping cool(tiebreaker match and win against NWS explains most of that) and they are usually pretty consistent in what they do and what their gameplan is.
Gratz to all the teams that make it, but I really hope that NWS wins and that one of the NA teams make it to the quarterfinals.
So what you're saying is Kabum did better in at least one entire aspect of the game than everyone else in their group at the world championships, but that they aren't actually good at it?
I agree 100% with and was thinking of everything else you said in that post, but it's silly to say their picks and bans aren't good. They've been consistently very good.
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So what you're saying is Kabum did better in at least one entire aspect of the game than everyone else in their group at the world championships, but that they aren't actually good at it?
I agree 100% with and was thinking of everything else you said in that post, but it's silly to say their picks and bans aren't good. They've been consistently very good.
Being cautious =/= skill.
Kabum was cautious (as well as they should be) based on previous match's where ALL has won which is why they banned the Irelia and Lee Sin. Every other team that lost a game to Alliance had let one or both through to be picked. I'd certainly attribute that to underestimating because there's no way in hell those other teams didn't do their research. The rest of ALL vs Kabum draft revealed that in fact Alliance was cocky because of the last pick Fizz into the fully revealed Kabum team. Honestly, Kabum didn't do anything wrong but they also didn't show any strategic pick/ban skill and Alliance screwed up hard. A good strategic pick ban phase for Kabum would've been to first pick Irelia to deny Wickd's favorite champion and pick the rest of the comp they had because the Irelia has equal to better pick potential with LEP's first pick Ryze. They should know or at least have an educated guess that Wickd would take Kayle and work around that fact by either straight up banning it to force Wickd on a uncomfortable champion or to pick a comp favorable against Kayle
So what you're saying is Kabum did better in at least one entire aspect of the game than everyone else in their group at the world championships, but that they aren't actually good at it?
I agree 100% with and was thinking of everything else you said in that post, but it's silly to say their picks and bans aren't good. They've been consistently very good.
Being cautious =/= skill.
Kabum was cautious (as well as they should be) based on previous match's where ALL has won which is why they banned the Irelia and Lee Sin. Every other team that lost a game to Alliance had let one or both through to be picked. I'd certainly attribute that to underestimating because there's no way in hell those other teams didn't do their research. The rest of ALL vs Kabum draft revealed that in fact Alliance was cocky because of the last pick Fizz into the fully revealed Kabum team. Honestly, Kabum didn't do anything wrong but they also didn't show any strategic pick/ban skill and Alliance screwed up hard. A good strategic pick ban phase for Kabum would've been to first pick Irelia to deny Wickd's favorite champion and pick the rest of the comp they had because the Irelia has equal to better pick potential with LEP's first pick Ryze. They should know or at least have an educated guess that Wickd would take Kayle and work around that fact by either straight up banning it to force Wickd on a uncomfortable champion or to pick a comp favorable against Kayle
Picking Irelia into Wickd is a death sentence. You don't pick someone's main into them, because they know exactly how to beat it, when their power spikes are, etc. Forcing Wickd onto Kayle was a great move, because his record on Kayle has been absolutely awful. I have no idea why he even picked it, I haven't seen him play it even at a high solo-queue level, let alone good enough for Worlds.
So what you're saying is Kabum did better in at least one entire aspect of the game than everyone else in their group at the world championships, but that they aren't actually good at it?
I agree 100% with and was thinking of everything else you said in that post, but it's silly to say their picks and bans aren't good. They've been consistently very good.
Being cautious =/= skill.
Kabum was cautious (as well as they should be) based on previous match's where ALL has won which is why they banned the Irelia and Lee Sin. Every other team that lost a game to Alliance had let one or both through to be picked. I'd certainly attribute that to underestimating because there's no way in hell those other teams didn't do their research. The rest of ALL vs Kabum draft revealed that in fact Alliance was cocky because of the last pick Fizz into the fully revealed Kabum team. Honestly, Kabum didn't do anything wrong but they also didn't show any strategic pick/ban skill and Alliance screwed up hard. A good strategic pick ban phase for Kabum would've been to first pick Irelia to deny Wickd's favorite champion and pick the rest of the comp they had because the Irelia has equal to better pick potential with LEP's first pick Ryze. They should know or at least have an educated guess that Wickd would take Kayle and work around that fact by either straight up banning it to force Wickd on a uncomfortable champion or to pick a comp favorable against Kayle
Picking Irelia into Wickd is a death sentence. You don't pick someone's main into them, because they know exactly how to beat it, when their power spikes are, etc. Forcing Wickd onto Kayle was a great move, because his record on Kayle has been absolutely awful. I have no idea why he even picked it, I haven't seen him play it even at a high solo-queue level, let alone good enough for Worlds.
Only a death sentence if said player also has a wide champion pool. Clearly not the case here. Irelia would've been a safer pick overall than Ryze too due to flexibility in the lane swap and not super weak in the early game
Kabum was cautious (as well as they should be) based on previous match's where ALL has won which is why they banned the Irelia and Lee Sin. Every other team that lost a game to Alliance had let one or both through to be picked.
I'm not sure how exactly you can flip to saying that immediately after saying "everyone else ****ed up", but whatever. You could rephrase all of that as other teams weren't cautious enough.
also man there is no way irelia has equal to or better pick potential than ryze but that's beside the point I guess
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Technically it's possible that most of SSW dies between now and when the match starts and they have to forfeit, or something on that level. Luckily for me I'm a fan of SSW and not TSM.
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Maybe all five members just say incredibly racist things and change all their IGNs to really offensive names and they all get three game bans before the next match.
The good thing is that TSM managed to put up a fight.
The bad thing is that despite their efforts, they lost.
There is still C9, but I just want NWS to get to the finals.
Frankly, the only reason TSM seemed to put up a fight was that SSW got cocky and showboaty. G2 was just them ******* around with a huge lead and G3 was them totally not respecting TSM (see worlds S3). Top-tier KR teams are far enough ahead of everyone else that they really have to do something like that to be beaten and it's pretty amazing to me how good both samsung teams have gotten.
Blue imo isn't really showing up so far this worlds (thus they have dropped a game and not been super convincing otherwise) and I'm not sure why, my current suspicion is that coaching staff might've neglected them in favor of White. We'll see how the games with C9 are, if as I foresee they don't step it up the games could be fairly close. I do think NA got a *****load better in S4 in general and the bootcamped teams even accelerated that. High hopes for NA/the West to actually be competitive in S5 or S6.
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I don't think the Korean teams in general are better than the top NA teams... TSM or Cloud9 would be competitive in Korea. But the top Korean teams - SSW in particular - look pretty unbeatable right now.
Yup, that's what I meant. The samsung teams and KTA at least are just way better than anyone else in the world (though KTA is inconsistent and I could see c9 for example having a winning record over them for a season).
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Good gods, this guy is pretty hard to use. I guess maybe I'm just too used to playing Carry-style champions (for a comparison, even Gnar feels easier to use) that his soldier dependency really screws me up. The only good thing is that the Soldier's basic attacks deal Magic damage that can trigger Spellvamp (unless I read it wrong), but maybe I should try next time with attack speed boost (hello, Nashor's Tooth) and see what happens.
Have a tournament before the worlds championship that features the 4th seeds from every major region and the international wildcard winners squad plus maybe invite 3rd seed SEA since they only have 2 teams for worlds, throw the last spot to the region with the previous winners of worlds. The tournament would look like this
4th NA
4th EU
4th CHN
4th KR
3rd SEA
Wildcard winner PAX
Wildcard winner Gamescon
5th KR
A possible double round robin for 2 groups and top 2 of each group advance to bracket stage and the finalists have a spot for worlds. This ensures that skilled teams are rewarded but at the same time, the viewers get to watch different regions at play in international tournaments
On AHQ: As much as I like them, their group was by far the easiest group even though they didn't have a wildcard team. You had SK with the Svenskeren debacle which pretty much meant SK was out, you had SHRC a chinese team playing with two koreans meaning their communication is very poor (acknowledged to be a problem by the team themselves). TSM is the only "consistent team" but their players are hit and miss. You're banking on lustboy and turtle to have synergy on that particular day and for turtle to not choke because he is inconsistent lately. Dyrus has shown that if he goes on tilt, he is one of the biggest liabilities to the team. Amazing has a meh champion pool and also hit and miss days.
On ALL vs Kabum: ALL didn't prepare at all for this game, their draft was poor and ALL team comp pretty much folded to the morgana pick. As much as I think Wildcard teams don't belong at worlds, the individual skill differences is actually pretty low. The only thing that separates world championship caliber teams and wildcard teams is the strategy in drafting and the strategy in game (think rotations). Normally ALL should win both but that's what happens when you draft poorly and underestimate skill. Seriously, they took an all in comp against a team with Morgana, Ryze, and Ahri. Either ALL is really cocky, unprepared, or inconsistent themselves or a combination of the three.
I was honestly expecting FNC to make it, but looks like OMG were just too strong in the end. I was thinking that ALL would go down, because I feel that they either get the picks they want, or go bust. This is different from C9 because C9 in general is very, very good at not tilting and keeping cool(tiebreaker match and win against NWS explains most of that) and they are usually pretty consistent in what they do and what their gameplan is.
Gratz to all the teams that make it, but I really hope that NWS wins and that one of the NA teams make it to the quarterfinals.
Thanks Argentleman;)
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I was honestly expecting FNC to make it, but looks like OMG were just too strong in the end. I was thinking that ALL would go down, because I feel that they either get the picks they want, or go bust. This is different from C9 because C9 in general is very, very good at not tilting and keeping cool(tiebreaker match and win against NWS explains most of that) and they are usually pretty consistent in what they do and what their gameplan is.
Gratz to all the teams that make it, but I really hope that NWS wins and that one of the NA teams make it to the quarterfinals.
Thanks Argentleman;)
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I agree 100% with and was thinking of everything else you said in that post, but it's silly to say their picks and bans aren't good. They've been consistently very good.
Being cautious =/= skill.
Kabum was cautious (as well as they should be) based on previous match's where ALL has won which is why they banned the Irelia and Lee Sin. Every other team that lost a game to Alliance had let one or both through to be picked. I'd certainly attribute that to underestimating because there's no way in hell those other teams didn't do their research. The rest of ALL vs Kabum draft revealed that in fact Alliance was cocky because of the last pick Fizz into the fully revealed Kabum team. Honestly, Kabum didn't do anything wrong but they also didn't show any strategic pick/ban skill and Alliance screwed up hard. A good strategic pick ban phase for Kabum would've been to first pick Irelia to deny Wickd's favorite champion and pick the rest of the comp they had because the Irelia has equal to better pick potential with LEP's first pick Ryze. They should know or at least have an educated guess that Wickd would take Kayle and work around that fact by either straight up banning it to force Wickd on a uncomfortable champion or to pick a comp favorable against Kayle
Picking Irelia into Wickd is a death sentence. You don't pick someone's main into them, because they know exactly how to beat it, when their power spikes are, etc. Forcing Wickd onto Kayle was a great move, because his record on Kayle has been absolutely awful. I have no idea why he even picked it, I haven't seen him play it even at a high solo-queue level, let alone good enough for Worlds.
Only a death sentence if said player also has a wide champion pool. Clearly not the case here. Irelia would've been a safer pick overall than Ryze too due to flexibility in the lane swap and not super weak in the early game
also man there is no way irelia has equal to or better pick potential than ryze but that's beside the point I guess
Maybe all five members just say incredibly racist things and change all their IGNs to really offensive names and they all get three game bans before the next match.
TSM: 3-0.
Cloud 9, last NA hope once more
The bad thing is that despite their efforts, they lost.
There is still C9, but I just want NWS to get to the finals.
Thanks Argentleman;)
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Blue imo isn't really showing up so far this worlds (thus they have dropped a game and not been super convincing otherwise) and I'm not sure why, my current suspicion is that coaching staff might've neglected them in favor of White. We'll see how the games with C9 are, if as I foresee they don't step it up the games could be fairly close. I do think NA got a *****load better in S4 in general and the bootcamped teams even accelerated that. High hopes for NA/the West to actually be competitive in S5 or S6.
Good gods, this guy is pretty hard to use. I guess maybe I'm just too used to playing Carry-style champions (for a comparison, even Gnar feels easier to use) that his soldier dependency really screws me up. The only good thing is that the Soldier's basic attacks deal Magic damage that can trigger Spellvamp (unless I read it wrong), but maybe I should try next time with attack speed boost (hello, Nashor's Tooth) and see what happens.