The reason I asked about the definition about a social justice warrior is that this thread is honestly the first time I have ever heard the term. Maybe I've been living under a rock or something.
But having never heard the term before, it sounds like by social justice warrior, people mean internet trolls.
I had asked as well, because SJW is really just a pejorative term for an extreme liberal postion, made popular by place like tumblr giving everyone a voice.
I had asked as well, because SJW is really just a pejorative term for an extreme liberal postion, made popular by place like tumblr giving everyone a voice.
It's a definite pejorative, but there are more specific connotations in behavior and attitude than just "liberal". Much like "bleeding heart", or "Bible-thumper" on the right. It's a particular species of nuisance.
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SJWs blame everything on white males. Neo-Nazis blame everything on Jews, which just so happen to be mostly white males.
So, the Holocaust was a bunch of white guys being murdered. Also, apparently, all Jews are male, and white. No, all those Israeli Jews (most of whom aren't Ashkenazi, including one whom I know personally who would argue that even Ashkenazi Jews aren't white, and he presents the Holocaust, or Ashkenazi Jews being murdered for not being white, as proof) don't count. But I'm still on the idea that the Holocaust was a bunch of white guys getting murdered for being white.
Both groups have an intense hatred for cultures mixing together. For SJWs, this is under the guise of cultural appropriation and how evil white culture must stay away from PoCs. For neo-Nazis, this is under the guise of multiculturalism and how whites cannot be tainted by minorities.
Actually, cultural appropriation began with just religious things being commercialized. Because white people think all religions have to be cast in the same mould as Christianity and Islam in that they demand everyone convert, and especially in the mould of Christianity where some churches have a food court.
It's only SJWs who turned it to 'white people can't like anime'.
Both groups are extremely authoritarian and want greatly increased government control to suit their needs.
Nah, SJWs are too busy being stupid. You might be talking about communists, but who has seen one of those? I imagine a lot of SJWs would identify as anarchists, who are equally useless.
Every time I read a Tumblr post or tweet that says something along the lines of "White people are evil and they should all die" (and all of its variants) you could replace every instance of male/guy/white guy with "Jews" and it instantly becomes a neo-Nazi rant. Here's a perfect example of this here. Note you could do the same thing with something a neo-Nazi says on Stormfront. Replace every instance of Jews/minorities with white men and you get a SJW rant.
You'd have more of a point if you were talking about 'Jewish privilege' rants among SJWs. Who needs to draw false equivalences when...many SJWs are anti-Semites?
Oh, they're also convinced Indians are privileged. And Kurds. And basically anyone who doesn't agree with their bull*****.
As politics in the West become more polarized and radicalized, it's really caused me to think through some things differently, especially when it comes the extreme authoritarian left and extreme authoritarian right. Is it time to just call a spade a spade and lump in both of these groups together?
What you're talking about is horseshoe theory.
But honestly, SJWs were raised on the self-esteem movement. So blame Ayn Rand.
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Neo nazi's on the other hand are usually more deliberate in what they say and do. That makes them a lot more dangerous.
Uh... neo-Nazis are dumb****s. The ideology is not exactly prone to attracting America's best and brightest. They're dangerous because they're angry and violent, not because they're smart.
On the other hand, SJWs, as Jay alluded, tend to have active minds and college educations, and thus a decent shot at growing out of their mindset in a few years. Plus they don't tend to commit crimes that send them to prison, blacken their permanent record, and cement them into the criminal community, so that helps.
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says something along the lines of "White people are evil and they should all die" (and all of its variants)
This is not a thing that exists. It's a really, really dumb strawman argument.
99% of the time, it's a strawman. But it does exist. And flatly denying its existence is tantamount to erasing the experiences of those unfortunate people who have encountered it. It's like saying child molesters don't exist: they're really, really rare, and you should never, ever assume someone is a child molester without evidence, but you should also take them very, very seriously when they do appear.
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To the OP, there's actually a subreddit for exactly what you speak of. It's quite fun. You read quotes with the people about whom they are talking censored (Jews, white straight men, etc.), then guess if a SJW or neo-Nazi said it.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads calling SWAT on people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads harassing people's family and employers over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads getting pets euthanized over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads threatening to rape people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
SJWs are infinitely more dangerous because their ***** is being allowed by the leftist government, the piece of ***** that has replaced their brains was designed and sculpted by gynocentric leftists universities after all.
Global, feelings-centric activism is probably the most dangerous thing to ever happen to the western world.
this whole Social Justice warrior thing is new to me, but what i'm observing (maybe it is SJWs) a lot of that is becoming a dangerous trend is the over whelming willingness of people to swarm (even flash mob) to a social cause just because some "soap box" blogger is saying there cause is some how right. they make a swift social media share campaign to quickly rally the mob behind them and take an overwhelming share of voice that will drown out or shame those who write or present and opposing view.
If the SJW's can conjure large quantities of people behind there different causes long enough, anyone at a certain point could get there followers to unwittingly let in opposite ideologies that might be similar to neo-nazi ideology sayings it just another cause for social improvement like they did with all of the other causes. I think you can only go left so far before your going far right and vise versa (right so far that you end up going far left)
I don't see neonazis and skinheads calling SWAT on people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads harassing people's family and employers over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads getting pets euthanized over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads threatening to rape people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
SJWs are infinitely more dangerous because their ***** is being allowed by the leftist government, the piece of ***** that has replaced their brains was designed and sculpted by gynocentric leftists universities after all.
Global, feelings-centric activism is probably the most dangerous thing to ever happen to the western world.
I feel sorry for the poor pets... if only those pets hadn't posted their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
Which country do you live in, where the leftist government is okay with fake SWAT callouts?
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I don't see neonazis and skinheads calling SWAT on people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads harassing people's family and employers over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads getting pets euthanized over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads threatening to rape people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
SJWs are infinitely more dangerous because their ***** is being allowed by the leftist government, the piece of ***** that has replaced their brains was designed and sculpted by gynocentric leftists universities after all.
Global, feelings-centric activism is probably the most dangerous thing to ever happen to the western world.
I feel sorry for the poor pets... if only those pets hadn't posted their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
Which country do you live in, where the leftist government is okay with fake SWAT callouts?
Literally googled "swat called on streamer" and behold, a bunch of people being dragged off their houses because of false flags. Most of them "gamergators".
So if you disagree with tumblr you desserve a trigger-happy paramilitary squad dragging you off your house.
They are literally worse than 4chan, at least when 4chan doxxed people it was to get you more pizza than you could pay for, or actually get child-porn producers and animal abusers behind bars. You know, REAL CRIMINALS rather than FEELS "criminals".
That this is even a thread is laughable, and not in the funny way. No neo nazi's and other right wing psycho scum is still worse than a pejorative thrown out, usually by other right wing psycho scum, about some people.
Literally googled "swat called on streamer" and behold, a bunch of people being dragged off their houses because of false flags. Most of them "gamergators".
So if you disagree with tumblr you desserve a trigger-happy paramilitary squad dragging you off your house.
Googled the same thing, read the first two pages of people being SWATted. No 'gamergators', no mention of 'SJWs' or anything that could even vaguely be interpreted that way, two _critics_ of Gamergate though. Clearly two very different sets of search results.
I have this theory that, thanks to the internet, the really virulent crazies in every group get thrown into harsh relief. I'm fairly sure that a quick google would show, for example, Gamergators engaging in many of the behaviours you complain about upthread.
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Literally googled "swat called on streamer" and behold, a bunch of people being dragged off their houses because of false flags. Most of them "gamergators".
So if you disagree with tumblr you desserve a trigger-happy paramilitary squad dragging you off your house.
Googled the same thing, read the first two pages of people being SWATted. No 'gamergators', no mention of 'SJWs' or anything that could even vaguely be interpreted that way, two _critics_ of Gamergate though. Clearly two very different sets of search results.
I have this theory that, thanks to the internet, the really virulent crazies in every group get thrown into harsh relief. I'm fairly sure that a quick google would show, for example, Gamergators engaging in many of the behaviours you complain about upthread.
Gamergate has a pretty extensive history of doing scummy stuff then accusing their so called SJW enemies of it.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads calling SWAT on people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads harassing people's family and employers over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads getting pets euthanized over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads threatening to rape people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
SJWs are infinitely more dangerous because their ***** is being allowed by the leftist government, the piece of ***** that has replaced their brains was designed and sculpted by gynocentric leftists universities after all.
Global, feelings-centric activism is probably the most dangerous thing to ever happen to the western world.
I feel sorry for the poor pets... if only those pets hadn't posted their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
Which country do you live in, where the leftist government is okay with fake SWAT callouts?
Literally googled "swat called on streamer" and behold, a bunch of people being dragged off their houses because of false flags. Most of them "gamergators".
So if you disagree with tumblr you desserve a trigger-happy paramilitary squad dragging you off your house.
They are literally worse than 4chan, at least when 4chan doxxed people it was to get you more pizza than you could pay for, or actually get child-porn producers and animal abusers behind bars. You know, REAL CRIMINALS rather than FEELS "criminals".
This has nothing to do with Tumblr. Have you ever interacted with skinheads? Your perception of what you see neo-nazis not doing might be skewed by the fact that you have never interacted with neo-nazis. It's not uncommon for skinheads to harass people over their opinions; calling white people race traitors for their willingness to be around folks of other races is rather common. Skinheads are often pretty vocal about yelling obscenities at people in public.
Yes I've actually been around skinheads, I volunteer at a youth rehab center and I have never felt as unsafe around these very lonely, very dissapointed and very angry kids, as I felt when SJW pieces of ***** started calling my mom and my boss telling them I was a violent homophobe because I used to run a catholicism-appreciation blog on tumblr.
I'm also a pretty brown mexican who has never once received a racist expletive from kids wearing SS but has had his stuff vandalized by bull***** about "race appropiation" by SJWs, because I decorate my house for day of the dead.
The people who prey on those who feel outcast enough to seek refuge in nazism are monsters, and at their worst, skinheads will be violent. But SJWs are always tyrannical imbeciles with no capability or willingness for dialogue. All they know is mob "justice", and economic/social violence is still violence, often much worse than a punch in the face or a racial slur shouted across the street.
SJWs used to mean naïve white people we didn't really like but insisted they spoke for us. Then racists got hold of the term and used it to mean normal people. So now we need a new term. I suggest tourist.
Regarding Gamergate, as I understand it, she's accused of having sex with critics, right? And what evidence do you have? That her ex called her a whore? Man, that's real damning there. And obviously those critics wouldn't be influenced by other things. If they're so easily swayed by sex, clearly money would be more influential, no? After all, you can always rent sex; it is, after all, the world's oldest profession. And clearly there would be publications where ethical breaches could have far worse consequences than damn vidya, am I correct?
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Card advantage is not the same thing as card draw. Something for 2B cannot be strictly worse than something for BBB or 3BB. If you're taking out Swords to Plowshares for Plummet, you're a fool. Stop doing these things!
SJWs used to mean naïve white people we didn't really like but insisted they spoke for us. Then racists got hold of the term and used it to mean normal people. So now we need a new term. I suggest tourist.
Regarding Gamergate, as I understand it, she's accused of having sex with critics, right? And what evidence do you have? That her ex called her a whore? Man, that's real damning there. And obviously those critics wouldn't be influenced by other things. If they're so easily swayed by sex, clearly money would be more influential, no? After all, you can always rent sex; it is, after all, the world's oldest profession. And clearly there would be publications where ethical breaches could have far worse consequences than damn vidya, am I correct?
Probably best if we keep the Gamergate conversation out of this.
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Regarding Gamergate, as I understand it, she's accused of having sex with critics, right? And what evidence do you have? That her ex called her a whore? Man, that's real damning there. And obviously those critics wouldn't be influenced by other things. If they're so easily swayed by sex, clearly money would be more influential, no? After all, you can always rent sex; it is, after all, the world's oldest profession. And clearly there would be publications where ethical breaches could have far worse consequences than damn vidya, am I correct?
There was more proof than just the dude saying it. One of the spouses of someone she was with even called her out on it over twitter...
Anyways, one of the worst things about SJWs is they're so convinced that they have the moral authority, and that moral authority makes them in the right. It doesn't matter how flawed or hypocritical they become, they're fighting for the side of "Justice" so the ends justify the means. Even if they're doing the same 'heinous acts' they accuse "gamergate" (or any disagreeing view point really). The kind of 'evil' that doesn't realize that it's evil, to quote Weather Report.
SJWs used to mean naïve white people we didn't really like but insisted they spoke for us. Then racists got hold of the term and used it to mean normal people. So now we need a new term. I suggest tourist.
Nah. Insult to actual tourists.
I was more thinking of that line in Fight Club: Describing Marla as "That ******* tourist!" A bit hypocritical, considering, but still...
Regarding Gamergate, as I understand it, she's accused of having sex with critics, right? And what evidence do you have? That her ex called her a whore? Man, that's real damning there. And obviously those critics wouldn't be influenced by other things. If they're so easily swayed by sex, clearly money would be more influential, no? After all, you can always rent sex; it is, after all, the world's oldest profession. And clearly there would be publications where ethical breaches could have far worse consequences than damn vidya, am I correct?
Probably best if we keep the Gamergate conversation out of this.
You notice I was more mentioning just what small potatoes any violation of 'ethics in games journalism' is, by definition.
Well, it is bad, when you consider that these people apply ethnic-studies logic to international relations, for instance. No, I don't assume the Iranians are being oppressed by not having a nuke. And I'm fully aware that dark skin doesn't make someone my friend. Or a hate-on for America.
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So, the Holocaust was a bunch of white guys being murdered. Also, apparently, all Jews are male, and white. No, all those Israeli Jews (most of whom aren't Ashkenazi, including one whom I know personally who would argue that even Ashkenazi Jews aren't white, and he presents the Holocaust, or Ashkenazi Jews being murdered for not being white, as proof) don't count. But I'm still on the idea that the Holocaust was a bunch of white guys getting murdered for being white.
Oh, Drake. Your rage face has never been more apropos.
Actually, cultural appropriation began with just religious things being commercialized. Because white people think all religions have to be cast in the same mould as Christianity and Islam in that they demand everyone convert, and especially in the mould of Christianity where some churches have a food court.
It's only SJWs who turned it to 'white people can't like anime'.
Nah, SJWs are too busy being stupid. You might be talking about communists, but who has seen one of those? I imagine a lot of SJWs would identify as anarchists, who are equally useless.
You'd have more of a point if you were talking about 'Jewish privilege' rants among SJWs. Who needs to draw false equivalences when...many SJWs are anti-Semites?
Oh, they're also convinced Indians are privileged. And Kurds. And basically anyone who doesn't agree with their bull*****.
What you're talking about is horseshoe theory.
But honestly, SJWs were raised on the self-esteem movement. So blame Ayn Rand.
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On the other hand, SJWs, as Jay alluded, tend to have active minds and college educations, and thus a decent shot at growing out of their mindset in a few years. Plus they don't tend to commit crimes that send them to prison, blacken their permanent record, and cement them into the criminal community, so that helps.
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This is not a thing that exists. It's a really, really dumb strawman argument.
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To the OP, there's actually a subreddit for exactly what you speak of. It's quite fun. You read quotes with the people about whom they are talking censored (Jews, white straight men, etc.), then guess if a SJW or neo-Nazi said it.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads harassing people's family and employers over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads getting pets euthanized over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
I don't see neonazis and skinheads threatening to rape people over their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
SJWs are infinitely more dangerous because their ***** is being allowed by the leftist government, the piece of ***** that has replaced their brains was designed and sculpted by gynocentric leftists universities after all.
Global, feelings-centric activism is probably the most dangerous thing to ever happen to the western world.
If the SJW's can conjure large quantities of people behind there different causes long enough, anyone at a certain point could get there followers to unwittingly let in opposite ideologies that might be similar to neo-nazi ideology sayings it just another cause for social improvement like they did with all of the other causes. I think you can only go left so far before your going far right and vise versa (right so far that you end up going far left)
I feel sorry for the poor pets... if only those pets hadn't posted their opinions on tumblr/twitter.
Which country do you live in, where the leftist government is okay with fake SWAT callouts?
Literally googled "swat called on streamer" and behold, a bunch of people being dragged off their houses because of false flags. Most of them "gamergators".
So if you disagree with tumblr you desserve a trigger-happy paramilitary squad dragging you off your house.
Also: http://wdtn.com/2014/09/15/pet-fox-euthanized-without-checking-owners-permit/
You're not allowed to have pets tumblr doesn't aprove of either, they'd rather the animals be dead than you be allowed to antagonize them and go unpunished.
They are literally worse than 4chan, at least when 4chan doxxed people it was to get you more pizza than you could pay for, or actually get child-porn producers and animal abusers behind bars. You know, REAL CRIMINALS rather than FEELS "criminals".
Googled the same thing, read the first two pages of people being SWATted. No 'gamergators', no mention of 'SJWs' or anything that could even vaguely be interpreted that way, two _critics_ of Gamergate though. Clearly two very different sets of search results.
I have this theory that, thanks to the internet, the really virulent crazies in every group get thrown into harsh relief. I'm fairly sure that a quick google would show, for example, Gamergators engaging in many of the behaviours you complain about upthread.
Gamergate has a pretty extensive history of doing scummy stuff then accusing their so called SJW enemies of it.
This has nothing to do with Tumblr. Have you ever interacted with skinheads? Your perception of what you see neo-nazis not doing might be skewed by the fact that you have never interacted with neo-nazis. It's not uncommon for skinheads to harass people over their opinions; calling white people race traitors for their willingness to be around folks of other races is rather common. Skinheads are often pretty vocal about yelling obscenities at people in public.
And here is an instance of cops letting folks act like brown shirts, in response to your claim that SJWs run wild and free under this leftist government (that is controlled by a majority of Republicans in Congress...): https://abolitionistdynamite.wordpress.com/2015/07/05/hollowed-sons-motorcycle-club/
I'm also a pretty brown mexican who has never once received a racist expletive from kids wearing SS but has had his stuff vandalized by bull***** about "race appropiation" by SJWs, because I decorate my house for day of the dead.
The people who prey on those who feel outcast enough to seek refuge in nazism are monsters, and at their worst, skinheads will be violent. But SJWs are always tyrannical imbeciles with no capability or willingness for dialogue. All they know is mob "justice", and economic/social violence is still violence, often much worse than a punch in the face or a racial slur shouted across the street.
Regarding Gamergate, as I understand it, she's accused of having sex with critics, right? And what evidence do you have? That her ex called her a whore? Man, that's real damning there. And obviously those critics wouldn't be influenced by other things. If they're so easily swayed by sex, clearly money would be more influential, no? After all, you can always rent sex; it is, after all, the world's oldest profession. And clearly there would be publications where ethical breaches could have far worse consequences than damn vidya, am I correct?
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Probably best if we keep the Gamergate conversation out of this.
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There was more proof than just the dude saying it. One of the spouses of someone she was with even called her out on it over twitter...
Anyways, one of the worst things about SJWs is they're so convinced that they have the moral authority, and that moral authority makes them in the right. It doesn't matter how flawed or hypocritical they become, they're fighting for the side of "Justice" so the ends justify the means. Even if they're doing the same 'heinous acts' they accuse "gamergate" (or any disagreeing view point really). The kind of 'evil' that doesn't realize that it's evil, to quote Weather Report.
I was more thinking of that line in Fight Club: Describing Marla as "That ******* tourist!" A bit hypocritical, considering, but still...
You notice I was more mentioning just what small potatoes any violation of 'ethics in games journalism' is, by definition.
Well, it is bad, when you consider that these people apply ethnic-studies logic to international relations, for instance. No, I don't assume the Iranians are being oppressed by not having a nuke. And I'm fully aware that dark skin doesn't make someone my friend. Or a hate-on for America.
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