Welcome to [The Family]: a clan comprised completely of Mafia players. It's a place to cool off between the cut-throat games, a place to rest and relax with reduced chances of getting stabbed in the back, a place to viciously haunt those that killed you, and a place to complain about long nights.
If you want to join us, just make a post and say hello. You don't even have to play mafia! (Although, that is recommended...) We have a totally open door friend policy, so anyone can pop their head in and try to not have it cut off!
/In: 34 Ecophagy - Unlynchable Cult Clan Fatherly Leader
Rhand - Clan Representative Mother
Ace - Cereal Killer
Anaklusmos
atlseal
Burning_Earth
Ced395 - Townie Lolcat
Dagger
DCIII
Dkingsland967
DYH
Emo_Pinata - The noob formerly know as Shibui (himself the noob formerly known as Emo_Pinata)
Ganderin_Dan
Generic
GiftsTrix
Gigas1
Iso
jdisawesomesauce
Jobie
Jskura
Kill-joy
KittyCupCake
MandersHex- Clan (Zombie) Doll
MTG~DDS
red_0mega
Seppel - Clan Seppel
Shalako
Some One - Mafia Bassoonist
StormBlind
Syrenz - Clan Fluffy Animal
The Cold Monarch - A generalized version of The Ice King
The Most Curious Thing
Toastboy - Mr. Implosion
Void
Voxxicus
ZeDorkSlipeur - Clan Grandmother
Zionite - Supah Saint
/In-active(AKA Marked Lurkers): 25
If you appear on this list, just post again and you'll be moved back to active members, and the bounty on your head will be severely reduced!
AlphaInsidious - Black Sheep of [The Family]
Alpha Werewolf - Rampant Lurker
andelijah/Lost_Profit
Archmage Eternal
Bilbroxain - Sock confectioner Extrodinaire Callaway Buranri
Chibi C'thulhu
ChrisXIV
creampuffeater
CropCircles
Deaths Vampire
Dropkickdude
Flew
lrd
NightHawk
Penguin of Death
Raging Levine
Roja
Shadow Knight
Skander - Calvin's gimmick account
TACKY
VibeBox
ZasZ324
Zebi - Doer of things
kpaca/Condoms (Founder)
AsianInvasion
Azrael
Charm Master
Clem
Drakoguard
Dragoon26
ExLight
Guardman
greymon90210
Joboman
KeeperOfZion
Keifru
KeyofDestiny
Loran16
Macius - The sane Crazy One
Niv
Powerrox93
Prophylaxis
Ravus
Talore
The Fallen One
vezokpiraka
VibeBox
Zaph
Current Things to Talk About/ Get Done:
The Godfather game or some other group activity.
Member Titles. An archive of scumtells.
How awesome The Family Mafia was.
How awesome the Second Family Mafia was.
TF2 / L4D2 game nights.
Clan Contests.
Update the members thread.
Welcome to the new thread guys.
I'm going to update the memberlists soon. After how long a time without posting should I move people from /in to lurker?
Don't forget to update your signatures if you have the clan thread in it!
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
We should all do something sometime soon. Smile ("Something? What is this 'something' you speak of, Iso?") Anything that can be a group activity - maybe the online version of Cards Against Humanity, or some L4D2/TF2, perhaps even a new round of Godfather.
If it's something that requires we all be on at the same time, my days off are now Wednesday and Thursday.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm abstaining officially. I don't think either of PLAYERX, PLAYERY or PLAYERZ are scum.
If PLAYERX flips scum, PLAYERZ is pretty much guaranteed (do feel free to fight me on this, I might have tunnel vision) to be town?
I'm not sure if PLAYERA not taking advantage of my scenario thing and voting PLAYERX to fall under "probably not scum".
I think that there's at least one scum in each of the PLAYERY/PLAYERZ wagons. Considering lynching, that's pretty much hedging bets by this point, so if one doesn't get hit the other will get hit? Idk.
Obviously I'm still operating the assumption that my reads are right, but it's the only way I know how to do it.
I feel like he's scum. While he does say "I think these three players aren't scum" his post is a whole lot of not having any conclusive opinions on any of the three players. Also, despite none of the players supposedly being scum, he seems to wank to lynch who's ever wagon he's talking about. And why lynch if both wagons are bad?
Pretty sure Alex is scum.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I think he's town. He's not tieing people together like scum would. He's abstaining because he believes both wagons to be town.
It's not so good that he wants to do wagon analysis without flips, but that's a minor point against him.
This is actually from an off-site game - all the games I've read have been pretty recent.
Alex is scum. From the spectator chat of that game:
I'd be lynching Alex so hard.
If you don't like any of the wagons why are you not pushing a case on someone you DO think is scum, rather than abstaining, sitting back, and letting someone you think is town get lynched?
Scumscumscumscumscum.
The game state is on Day 1, where there are two competing town wagons. Might have butchered it a little, considering I know the context (I'll try to provide gamestate next time).
Game ends in a town win, after a Day 2 lynch on Alex's scumbuddy, a guilty check on Alex, and behavioral PoE for the last scum.
PLAYER A, if you had read what I said you would have known that nobody discovered my lie in that game until the game ended.
And you know what, I don't think people are going to lynch you in this game because people have forgotten how to play mafia properly: by lynching people who are deliberately doing anti-town things, that will only EVER hurt the town and do ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD.
I am done defending myself.
PlAYER B: Okay, so you read me scum. Okay. We got it. And you're fence sitting on PLAYER C. Any other reads?
It is early day 1 and the major wagon is on a different player to Anonymous or any of the other players he mentioned. Player A is voting anon, anon is voting player A.
Welcome to [The Family]: a clan comprised completely of Mafia players. It's a place to cool off between the cut-throat games, a place to rest and relax with reduced chances of getting stabbed in the back, a place to viciously haunt those that killed you, and a place to complain about long nights.
If you want to join us, just make a post and say hello. You don't even have to play mafia! (Although, that is recommended...) We have a totally open door friend policy, so anyone can pop their head in and try to not have it cut off!
/In: 34
Ecophagy - Unlynchable
CultClan Fatherly LeaderRhand - Clan Representative Mother
Ace - Cereal Killer
Anaklusmos
atlseal
Burning_Earth
Ced395 - Townie Lolcat
Dagger
DCIII
Dkingsland967
DYH
Emo_Pinata - The noob formerly know as Shibui (himself the noob formerly known as Emo_Pinata)
Ganderin_Dan
Generic
GiftsTrix
Gigas1
Iso
jdisawesomesauce
Jobie
Jskura
Kill-joy
KittyCupCake
MandersHex- Clan (Zombie) Doll
MTG~DDS
red_0mega
Seppel - Clan Seppel
Shalako
Some One - Mafia Bassoonist
StormBlind
Syrenz - Clan Fluffy Animal
The Cold Monarch - A generalized version of The Ice King
The Most Curious Thing
Toastboy - Mr. Implosion
Void
Voxxicus
ZeDorkSlipeur - Clan Grandmother
Zionite - Supah Saint
/In-active(AKA Marked Lurkers): 25
If you appear on this list, just post again and you'll be moved back to active members, and the bounty on your head will be severely reduced!
AlphaInsidious - Black Sheep of [The Family]
Alpha Werewolf - Rampant Lurker
andelijah/Lost_Profit
Archmage Eternal
Bilbroxain - Sock confectioner Extrodinaire
CallawayBuranriChibi C'thulhu
ChrisXIV
creampuffeater
CropCircles
Deaths Vampire
Dropkickdude
Flew
lrd
NightHawk
Penguin of Death
Raging Levine
Roja
Shadow Knight
Skander - Calvin's gimmick account
TACKY
VibeBox
ZasZ324
Zebi - Doer of things
kpaca/Condoms (Founder)
AsianInvasion
Azrael
Charm Master
Clem
Drakoguard
Dragoon26
ExLight
Guardman
greymon90210
Joboman
KeeperOfZion
Keifru
KeyofDestiny
Loran16
Macius - The sane Crazy One
Niv
Powerrox93
Prophylaxis
Ravus
Talore
The Fallen One
vezokpiraka
VibeBox
Zaph
Current Things to Talk About/ Get Done:
The Godfather game or some other group activity.
Member Titles.
An archive of scumtells.
How awesome The Family Mafia was.
How awesome the Second Family Mafia was.
TF2 / L4D2 game nights.
Clan Contests.
Update the members thread.
Former Clan Threads:
1. [The Family]: with a clan alive it's Yukora to lynch
2. [The Family]: It's Aezwolging Time!
3. Keep Your Friends close, keep [The Family] Closer
4. All is Fair in Love, War and [The Family]
5. Zebi Did it to [The Family]
6. [The Family]: Blood (and Sniper Rifles) are Thicker than Water
7. [The Family] Puts the Wine in Front of You
8. [The Family]: Busting Kneecaps So You Don't Have To!
9. [The Family] Killed Your Father, Prepare to Die!
10. We are [The Family]: All my scum, the townies and me!
11. [The Family] That Slays Together, Stays Together
12. Unlike Yours, [The Family]'s Uncle Isn't Creepy
13. Everyone returns to [The Family]
I'm going to update the memberlists soon. After how long a time without posting should I move people from /in to lurker?
Don't forget to update your signatures if you have the clan thread in it!
Ace
Anaklusmos
atlseal
Ced395 - Townie Lolcat
Dagger
Emo_Pinata
Generic
Gigas1
jdisawesomesauce
Jobie
Jskura
KittyCupCake
MandersHex
red_0mega
Shalako
Some One
Syrenz
You can move these people to inactive.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
@Proph: thx. Will update soon.
Also, our normals are townsided for some reason
Maybe it is because people play better when they can earn points?
@Iso: want to explain those games you proposed a bit? We still need to pick one and play
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
There you go
@Rhand: Left 4 Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, Cards Against Humanity...all of these things can be found quickly through Google
Godfather is the game where we anonify posts from Mafia games and guess who the scum is.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Obviously, we'd have to use games we haven't played in.
I'm down for a little Godfather.
I feel like he's scum. While he does say "I think these three players aren't scum" his post is a whole lot of not having any conclusive opinions on any of the three players. Also, despite none of the players supposedly being scum, he seems to wank to lynch who's ever wagon he's talking about. And why lynch if both wagons are bad?
Pretty sure Alex is scum.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
Alex=scum. He ties people together instead of giving reads, and leaves his options open
So, in other news, I just beat 2048.
{мы, тьма}
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
He mentions a "scenario thing" which suggests he suggested some sort of endgame plan. I'd think this is Day 3, at minimum.
And grats.
It's not so good that he wants to do wagon analysis without flips, but that's a minor point against him.
killjoy: +1
Burning_Earth: +1
Rhand: 0
ZDS: 0
This is actually from an off-site game - all the games I've read have been pretty recent.
Alex is scum. From the spectator chat of that game:
The game state is on Day 1, where there are two competing town wagons. Might have butchered it a little, considering I know the context (I'll try to provide gamestate next time).
Game ends in a town win, after a Day 2 lynch on Alex's scumbuddy, a guilty check on Alex, and behavioral PoE for the last scum.
Someone do another one.
It is early day 1 and the major wagon is on a different player to Anonymous or any of the other players he mentioned. Player A is voting anon, anon is voting player A.