Dredge combines with Pedantic Learning. After years, Johnnies lacking any reliable way to trigger the horrid enchantment now have a whole mechanic to base a deck around.
I now fully expect one of the mechanics in Guildpact to make Mudhole into sick tech. And then, my soul shall be truly dead.
what will really kill me though is when something in the Ravnica Block makes One With Nothing pwn
So THAT'S why they made it rare!
but what's wrong with them making old, sucky rares somewhat useful, anyway? The Pedantic Learning deck is still three colors (admittedly, one of those colors is green...) And it's not like it'll be competitive in extended or anything.
* Rhinocero desperately wants mudhole to be in a PT-winning deck
i seriously doubt anything in ravnica will make One with Nothing even remotely playable. it could have been interesting if the card existed in odyssey block as some kind of threshold/madness enabler. they just printed it at the wrong time.
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i never said it would be a bad thing to make existing crap rares useful i just would roll around laughing rather uncontrollably if that actually happens and then everybody and their brother is running around trying to trade for OWN thats all i am saying
also i wasnt saying something in RAV block WOULD make OWN pwn just that it would kill me if they did
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I do love it when old useless cards suddenly have a use, but its not like wizards designs the cards originally thinking that "its bad now but just wait, in a few years we'll make a mechanic which works with it" its just random chance, that said i'm not sure that anything will ever make one with nothing good, there are simple so many cards which do what it does better(like Putrid Imp).
i never said it would be a bad thing to make existing crap rares useful i just would roll around laughing rather uncontrollably if that actually happens and then everybody and their brother is running around trying to trade for OWN thats all i am saying
My friend's already got his playset. I kid you not.
what will really kill me though is when something in the Ravnica Block makes One With Nothing pwn
Oh, it's coming, I'm sure of it. MaRo has just been grin-and-bearing all of the hatemail about One with Nothing. Somewhere in Ravnica block, we are going to see a card that will make us all go "...Oh...****...that combos with OWN to win the game!?!" and he will have pwned us all.
Guess what one of the BEST cards Goblins has to break out of Crucible of Worlds locks in T1 and 1.5 is? Yeah - you got it.
You can't be serious. Goblins could play Smash, Shattering Pulse, Artifact Mutation, Goblin Vandal, or any of the dozens of other artifact kill cards at their disposal if they really needed a solution to this problem, not to mention that they could play stronger graveyard hate cards like Phyrexian Furnace or Tormod's Crypt. Mudhole is so narrow that it's very unlikely to ever be an optimal choice in any format.
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Oh, it's coming, I'm sure of it. MaRo has just been grin-and-bearing all of the hatemail about One with Nothing. Somewhere in Ravnica block, we are going to see a card that will make us all go "...Oh...****...that combos with OWN to win the game!?!" and he will have pwned us all.
MaRo also said that the laces, Purelace, Thoughtlace, Deathlace, Chaoslace,and Lifelace were part of the power 15. That they were so powerful that they destroyed MTG all together and they had to build a time machine to go back and fix them.
About the only way One with nothing will combo with anything that another card can't do better would have to refer to One with nothing.
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Not that that card would be an aura anyway.
I can just about imagine a scenario where OWN would at least have some use. I mean, imagine you have a whole buch of cards with Threshold in play, three cards in hand, and just one swamp untapped. (All of your guys are untapped, too.) The other guy makes a big swing with all of his guys, and ZOMG! It's OWN! Now all of your guys are bigger and his math is all messed up!
The situation is rather farfetched, but it's at least a situation where the card would be just what you needed.
Putrid Imp will always be better than one with nothing unless some card comes onlong that says "If an instant causes you to discard your hand then win the game" thats about the only way ever ><.
Also a deck built around imaginary pet is better with alot of cheap creatures, that way you actualy get some use out of the hand you drop instead of running one with nothing
I now fully expect one of the mechanics in Guildpact to make Mudhole into sick tech. And then, my soul shall be truly dead.
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So THAT'S why they made it rare!
but what's wrong with them making old, sucky rares somewhat useful, anyway? The Pedantic Learning deck is still three colors (admittedly, one of those colors is green...) And it's not like it'll be competitive in extended or anything.
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so a five five for 3 that forces you to discard your hand?
Sound alright to me, but not "bah-roken". Really, a creature isn't good enough to make you discards your hand unless it's like a 7/7.
Maybe OWNZORS If your hand is empty, draw 5 cards. Put a Blue-black elemental with power and toughness=the cards in your hand into play.
Although that still wouldn't be too good.
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Oh, it's coming, I'm sure of it. MaRo has just been grin-and-bearing all of the hatemail about One with Nothing. Somewhere in Ravnica block, we are going to see a card that will make us all go "...Oh...****...that combos with OWN to win the game!?!" and he will have pwned us all.
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But seriously... dredging to get cards off of pedantic learning... so fiddly... but it could be effective. Pity it costs mana to use the learning.
You can't be serious. Goblins could play Smash, Shattering Pulse, Artifact Mutation, Goblin Vandal, or any of the dozens of other artifact kill cards at their disposal if they really needed a solution to this problem, not to mention that they could play stronger graveyard hate cards like Phyrexian Furnace or Tormod's Crypt. Mudhole is so narrow that it's very unlikely to ever be an optimal choice in any format.
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MaRo also said that the laces, Purelace, Thoughtlace, Deathlace, Chaoslace,and Lifelace were part of the power 15. That they were so powerful that they destroyed MTG all together and they had to build a time machine to go back and fix them.
About the only way One with nothing will combo with anything that another card can't do better would have to refer to One with nothing.
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Not that that card would be an aura anyway.
I can just about imagine a scenario where OWN would at least have some use. I mean, imagine you have a whole buch of cards with Threshold in play, three cards in hand, and just one swamp untapped. (All of your guys are untapped, too.) The other guy makes a big swing with all of his guys, and ZOMG! It's OWN! Now all of your guys are bigger and his math is all messed up!
The situation is rather farfetched, but it's at least a situation where the card would be just what you needed.
Also a deck built around imaginary pet is better with alot of cheap creatures, that way you actualy get some use out of the hand you drop instead of running one with nothing
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