I am looking for reliable and decently priced bots or humans that are selling and could use some names of who to buy from
I don't much understand how the ticket system works with bots as some say they offer you credits back on cards you buy (seems fishy since it doesn't seem credits can be broken down further then 1 whole credit.)
also what are the best bots or humans to buy from?
and where is a solid place to check values on the cards I'm after so I can keep current like I would with paper MTG.
thanks for any help and ideas on how to start building my MTGO collection and get to cracking on building decks.
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Bots are generally legit with the credit tracking. There might be the odd one that isn't but I've never encountered one.
As for ones I use, there is:
- MTGOtraders.com - they have *everything*, but charge a bit of a premium because they have so much money tied up in their collection.
- goatbots.com - Best place to get anything from Return to Ravnica onward, or Modern Masters, or Vintage Masters. Their business model is quite different - they make only a small profit on each item, and try to get massive turnover. They also are massive, massive redeemers of foil sets and so sometimes will pay a lot of money for specific foil mythics they badly need.
There's a good number of others around too that I have less experience with.
I mostly use MTGO Library to check prices. Their wikiprice feature shows all the buy and sell prices for anyone using one of their bots, so you get some price comparisons that way.
I also use supernova bots, but their stock of older cards seems to have gotten purged recently, and they only deal in rares and mythics. I still like it because their price pages are all text, so it is very quick to look up their prices.
The credit system most bots use is to sort of simulate change. If you buy something worth 1.75 tickets, they'll take 2 and save 0.25 that you can use toward a trade later. It might sound strange but I've never had a problem with it. MTGO Library even lets you check your credits at any of their bots from their site.
I used to recommend Supernova, but they have definitely started to sell out of MTGO in a big way. I don't recommend them any more for that reason - I find goatbots do the same thing better. (I hope Supernova come back because they were great).
MTGO Library I find has a very, very large spread between buy and sell prices, partly because of their business model (traders without bot software affiliate to the MTGO Library site and gain access to their bot software, in exchange for a hefty % (2.5%) of the value of all trades carried out through the software. This means that MTGO Library bots have to set themselves up as low turnover, high margin traders rather than high turnover, low margin dealers like Goatbots or medium turnover, medium margin dealers like MTGOtraders.
You get the odd deal at MTGO Library when two users of their software strongly disagree on card prices (e.g. if one is buying Tundra at 11 and selling at 15, and the other is buying at 9 and selling at 12, you might buy the one that is 12) but that's rare enough that I only look at the site for 10+ ticket old cards.
For some reason my notifications weren't on for this thread. Thank you guys for the input I'll check these bots out and see what i can do to make some good deals to obtain what i need for my decks.
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I don't much understand how the ticket system works with bots as some say they offer you credits back on cards you buy (seems fishy since it doesn't seem credits can be broken down further then 1 whole credit.)
also what are the best bots or humans to buy from?
and where is a solid place to check values on the cards I'm after so I can keep current like I would with paper MTG.
thanks for any help and ideas on how to start building my MTGO collection and get to cracking on building decks.
~"Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils."
-Louis Hector Berlioz
As for ones I use, there is:
- MTGOtraders.com - they have *everything*, but charge a bit of a premium because they have so much money tied up in their collection.
- goatbots.com - Best place to get anything from Return to Ravnica onward, or Modern Masters, or Vintage Masters. Their business model is quite different - they make only a small profit on each item, and try to get massive turnover. They also are massive, massive redeemers of foil sets and so sometimes will pay a lot of money for specific foil mythics they badly need.
There's a good number of others around too that I have less experience with.
I also use supernova bots, but their stock of older cards seems to have gotten purged recently, and they only deal in rares and mythics. I still like it because their price pages are all text, so it is very quick to look up their prices.
The credit system most bots use is to sort of simulate change. If you buy something worth 1.75 tickets, they'll take 2 and save 0.25 that you can use toward a trade later. It might sound strange but I've never had a problem with it. MTGO Library even lets you check your credits at any of their bots from their site.
MTGO Library I find has a very, very large spread between buy and sell prices, partly because of their business model (traders without bot software affiliate to the MTGO Library site and gain access to their bot software, in exchange for a hefty % (2.5%) of the value of all trades carried out through the software. This means that MTGO Library bots have to set themselves up as low turnover, high margin traders rather than high turnover, low margin dealers like Goatbots or medium turnover, medium margin dealers like MTGOtraders.
You get the odd deal at MTGO Library when two users of their software strongly disagree on card prices (e.g. if one is buying Tundra at 11 and selling at 15, and the other is buying at 9 and selling at 12, you might buy the one that is 12) but that's rare enough that I only look at the site for 10+ ticket old cards.
~"Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils."
-Louis Hector Berlioz