Well as I post this, Exava is at .41 on cardbot. So yeah.
Is that a good or bad thing? Earlier today they were selling it at .17. About two hours ago they bumped it up to .29. Now it's at .41? Interesting.
Edit: BTW, I've decided to hold. I figure that if interactions like the one with the Hydra keep getting spoiled (that horrible enchantment was just spoiled but it still has something to do with +1/+1 counters) the hype will continue to grow. Even though she's a legend, she still may end up as a 4-of due to the legend rule and upside. As for Worldspine Wurm, I will almost certainly sell at some point because I think it's obviously unplayble for a myriad of reasons. As soon as a see a slight dip I'm going to unload. Usually if I see a dip on supernovabots or mtggoldfish I can sell before the bots adjust.
Edit #2: My mistake I misread the bot. Yeah cardbot actually dropped the price from .51 to .41.
Is that a good or bad thing? Earlier today they were selling it at .17. About two hours ago they bumped it up to .29. Now it's at .41? Interesting.
Cardbot and mtgotraders use the same prices (so does alphabot, marlonbot, and some others i'm missing). So you can just enter in cards onto cardbot's website and refresh, that way you have up to date prices, instead of checking out goldfish which only updates every 24 hours. Exava was up to .56, and now it's at .41.
Though mtgotrader's hotlist bot has higher buy prices than some of their counterparts.
Do you guys listen to brainstorm brewery? If not, you should, it's absolutely essential if you're at all into the finance side of things. I'm just one of their most repeated pieces of advice - don't chase the absolute peaks when you can cash in a spec at a decent rate of return. The huge peaks are virtually impossible to spot ahead of time (hindsight is easy, though) and for every time you manage to make another 25% by holding out more, there'll be a greater number of times when you miss the boat entirely and don't make anything.
Will exava be the cornerstone of a future standard decktype and become a 3+tix rare? Who the hell knows? Seems about as likely as her being a .05c rare in 3 months. That's why it doesn't matter if the hype is real. What you do know is that you can turn a, what, 200% profit now - if you can, seems like a good idea to cash some out. There's heaps and heaps of examples of hype not materialising, that basically describes 99% of what goes on in spoiler season. If you're able to cash in on some of that hype while it's happening, then that's usually a good idea.
Do you guys listen to brainstorm brewery? If not, you should, it's absolutely essential if you're at all into the finance side of things. I'm just one of their most repeated pieces of advice - don't chase the absolute peaks when you can cash in a spec at a decent rate of return. The huge peaks are virtually impossible to spot ahead of time (hindsight is easy, though) and for every time you manage to make another 25% by holding out more, there'll be a greater number of times when you miss the boat entirely and don't make anything.
I listened to one of their podcasts since it had the guy from the card nexus on it talking about the redemption fee increase. Those guys know nothing about mtgo, so I don't really care for it (it's all paper talk). But yeah that's some good advice.
Is that a good or bad thing? Earlier today they were selling it at .17. About two hours ago they bumped it up to .29. Now it's at .41? Interesting.
Edit: BTW, I've decided to hold. I figure that if interactions like the one with the Hydra keep getting spoiled (that horrible enchantment was just spoiled but it still has something to do with +1/+1 counters) the hype will continue to grow. Even though she's a legend, she still may end up as a 4-of due to the legend rule and upside. As for Worldspine Wurm, I will almost certainly sell at some point because I think it's obviously unplayble for a myriad of reasons. As soon as a see a slight dip I'm going to unload. Usually if I see a dip on supernovabots or mtggoldfish I can sell before the bots adjust.
Edit #2: My mistake I misread the bot. Yeah cardbot actually dropped the price from .51 to .41.
Sorry about that
Here is the thing about Exava, I think she doesn't get really good until next Spring. The format starts slow in the Fall and speeds up as net sets get added so I think this spec is a bit longer than 6 months
Do you guys listen to brainstorm brewery? If not, you should, it's absolutely essential if you're at all into the finance side of things. I'm just one of their most repeated pieces of advice - don't chase the absolute peaks when you can cash in a spec at a decent rate of return. The huge peaks are virtually impossible to spot ahead of time (hindsight is easy, though) and for every time you manage to make another 25% by holding out more, there'll be a greater number of times when you miss the boat entirely and don't make anything.
Will exava be the cornerstone of a future standard decktype and become a 3+tix rare? Who the hell knows? Seems about as likely as her being a .05c rare in 3 months. That's why it doesn't matter if the hype is real. What you do know is that you can turn a, what, 200% profit now - if you can, seems like a good idea to cash some out. There's heaps and heaps of examples of hype not materialising, that basically describes 99% of what goes on in spoiler season. If you're able to cash in on some of that hype while it's happening, then that's usually a good idea.
I listen and agree. I would, however, rather take the risk of seeing her drop back down to .1 (her low) instead of cashing in on the 300 or so % profit because I really do like her upside. I thought about cashing out and buying a a set of shocks+ but then decided to ride it out. Her competition right now just seems weak. So weak in fact that I think her biggest competition comes in the form of an enchantment (Gruul War Chant). We'll see.
Here is the thing about Exava, I think she doesn't get really good until next Spring. The format starts slow in the Fall and speeds up as net sets get added so I think this spec is a bit longer than 6 months
On one side I think she could get better as the card pool increases and more synergies start to present themselves. On the other, I feel like with every set release the chances of her being trumped by another R/x 4-drop increases. I'm not sure.
We did just get another red 4-drop, and it's a card type that doens't die to doom blade. I got no idea if chandra will see play, but she's in the picture.
One other data point you should keep in mind is that exava has seen virtually no play in block. my most recent article had a deck with her in it in the "rogue" section, I think she's appeared maybe 3 or 4 other times in reported decklists out of the 600 or so that I've tracked. Rakdos aggro in block at least has been completely outclassed by the incredibly strong BTE-enabled mono red shell, with a light splash for one or two white/green cards in some cases.
Do you guys listen to brainstorm brewery? If not, you should, it's absolutely essential if you're at all into the finance side of things. I'm just one of their most repeated pieces of advice - don't chase the absolute peaks when you can cash in a spec at a decent rate of return. The huge peaks are virtually impossible to spot ahead of time (hindsight is easy, though) and for every time you manage to make another 25% by holding out more, there'll be a greater number of times when you miss the boat entirely and don't make anything.
It's easy in paper because you can watch cards start to decline. Other than a reprint nothing really tanks them.
In MTGO prices adjust within hours so demand has to be real for cards to move. (No transit lag).. It's one of the reasons I hate short term spec's on MTGO.
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We did just get another red 4-drop, and it's a card type that doens't die to doom blade. I got no idea if chandra will see play, but she's in the picture.
One other data point you should keep in mind is that exava has seen virtually no play in block. my most recent article had a deck with her in it in the "rogue" section, I think she's appeared maybe 3 or 4 other times in reported decklists out of the 600 or so that I've tracked. Rakdos aggro in block at least has been completely outclassed by the incredibly strong BTE-enabled mono red shell, with a light splash for one or two white/green cards in some cases.
Exava passes the Doom Blade test also and this new Chandra would never find herself in a R/x shell aside from possibly the SB (for the control MU). I don't want to go into full blown card evaluation mode but she seems like she'd be much more comfortable in something like Big Red which is essentially the inverse of R/x. There's no way R/x is going to invest 4 mana to ping a creature, ping a player or to gain incremental card advantage. Making it so a creature can't block is meh when Firstfist Striker and something like Gruul War Chant either do it for much cheaper or more effectively. She doesn't threaten aggro curve toppers.
Your second point is extremely valid though. I'm aware of block and the decks/cards that it's comprised of but since I don't actually partake I am not familiar with the meta. Is there a specific thing holding her back? I do know the meta, on paper, seems to be polarized by Esper and RDW in general. Also, from what I can tell the R/x shells are running Rubblebelt Maka as their only 4-drop, which is really just a one mana battle trick. They seem to be hyper aggressive and solely concerned with going underneath their opponent. Can RDW really transfer over from block with such a low curve and remain productive?
It's easy in paper because you can watch cards start to decline. Other than a reprint nothing really tanks them.
In MTGO prices adjust within hours so demand has to be real for cards to move. (No transit lag).. It's one of the reasons I hate short term spec's on MTGO.
Yeah, you have to remain extremely vigilant but that vigilance also pays dividends if you notice a trend right at its inception. Like I said I was able to buy Worldspine Wurm at .5 and sell it at .9 almost the day after Garruk was spoiled. There's also some lag. I've taken notice of couple bots which are a little slow on the uptake.
They seem to be hyper aggressive and solely concerned with going underneath their opponent. Can RDW really transfer over from block with such a low curve and remain productive?
that's a great question. To understand why the block meta has played out as it has, I pretty well stand by my comments on rakdos aggro vs mono red in block that I made here. As for the standard portability of the two decks, just note that mono red preys on a few features of the block meta:
* zero good 1-cost removal spells. Mugging is closest, but non-instant and super narrow which has limited its appeal.
* No good 2-cost removal spells outside of red. This hurts esper decks quite badly, as they have to rely on az charm (which is phasing out due to voice) and precinct captain which gets neutralised by all sorts of things.
* Bad 3-colour mana bases, which either require a lot of shocks or are just inconsistent.
I haven't seen anything changing on #1, but doom blade helps #2 and who knows if theros will have duals to help #3. My bet is yes, but it's an unknown.
on a different topic, is gideon on anyone's radar? He's stupid-cheap at the moment. He's obviously not that great, but he has seen some niche sideboard play (mostly block) and is genuinely good in the right situation. He absolutely dominates creature-stalled boards in midrange matchups and is a decent attacking threat vs non-black control decks that can't just edict him (ie UWR). He has most of the hallmarks of a playable planeswalker - a +1 that gets some value, a threatening middle ability, a game winning ultimate and a cost of 4 - I would honestly be surprised if he didn't see at least some sideboard and potentially maindeck play during his life in standard. I certainly see him getting more play than ajani, caller of the pride, who has inexplicably never gone beneath 4tix. At 2.8tix for a mythic planeswalker, this actually seems like a pretty decent spec to me - I'm not saying he'll ever hit 10+ but would be surprised if he wasn't 5tix again at some point.
on a different topic, is gideon on anyone's radar? He's stupid-cheap at the moment. He's obviously not that great, but he has seen some niche sideboard play (mostly block) and is genuinely good in the right situation. He absolutely dominates creature-stalled boards in midrange matchups and is a decent attacking threat vs non-black control decks that can't just edict him (ie UWR). He has most of the hallmarks of a playable planeswalker - a +1 that gets some value, a threatening middle ability, a game winning ultimate and a cost of 4 - I would honestly be surprised if he didn't see at least some sideboard and potentially maindeck play during his life in standard. I certainly see him getting more play than ajani, caller of the pride, who has inexplicably never gone beneath 4tix. At 2.8tix for a mythic planeswalker, this actually seems like a pretty decent spec to me - I'm not saying he'll ever hit 10+ but would be surprised if he wasn't 5tix again at some point.
My initial reaction when he was spoiled was that he was awful and soon after mulling it over I reached the same conclusion. I just see so many inherent problems with him that I can't justify any type of investment, but then again, he's Tibalt low right now. Is he as bad as Tibalt? I don't think so but he's damn close.
I mean if he saw fringe play like Vraska I could see him shooting up to around 5 but I honestly think he's much worse than Vraska. Vraska's Vindicate legitimately comes in handy and legitimately threatens for value if she can survive a couple turns. I don't see any value in either of Gideon's +1 or 0 ability.
The +1 seems so odd in design to me. His +1 becomes better the more your opponent advances their own board position. Aside from the times where you and your opponent have reached board parity (how often can you actually count on this occurring?), his +1 will only be good when you're loosing. Furthermore, you really can ignore Gideon and just go for the throat at the point that his +1 is most effective. I really wish he took into account your own board state instead of your opponents.
The 0 is interesting but honestly nothing special. He can be chumped so he'll never represent a truly threatening clock and he offers exactly nothing on defense, essentially detracting from one of the obvious perks of indestructibility. Also, again, I find it really ironic that the amount he can grow is going to be directly proportional to your opponents board state. If he can grow substantially, odds are your opponent is substantially ahead and you should be more concerned with either racing or stabilizing.
Ultimately, aside from what the +1 and 0 abilities specifically do, I think it all comes down to the fact that he can't protect himself, effect the board or generate any type of CA. For a 4CMC PW, I feel like that's just unacceptable and I'd actually argue he has none of the hallmark traits of a playable PW.
It's not a control planeswalker, it's a creature deck planeswalker. It comes down for theose GW decks when their hoard of big dudes are staring of an opposing hoard of big dudes, ticks up for 3+ and either starts attacking or threatens ultimate. With so few decent (read cheap) flying creatures around, his loyalty doesn't get pressured by the type of decks he works against provided you have ground blockers. And in those same decks, he's a decent option against some control decks.
I'm not saying it's fantastic or anything, though, but it does do some stuff in the right shell - eg. GW midrange, bant creature-control. I mainly just think 2.8 is way too low for it given that it could easily spike up if it sees any play.
It's not a control planeswalker, it's a creature deck planeswalker. It comes down for theose GW decks when their hoard of big dudes are staring of an opposing hoard of big dudes, ticks up for 3+ and either starts attacking or threatens ultimate. With so few decent (read cheap) flying creatures around, his loyalty doesn't get pressured by the type of decks he works against provided you have ground blockers. And in those same decks, he's a decent option against some control decks.
Are we referring to block here? My question remains though, how often do those clogged board states appear? It's not like you're actively trying to reach board parity; you're trying to win. Also, how can this guy ever dig you out of a hole? I'm still honestly not convinced he fits in any shell aside from Turbo Fog.
I'm not saying it's fantastic or anything, though, but it does do some stuff in the right shell - eg. GW midrange, bant creature-control. I mainly just think 2.8 is way too low for it given that it could easily spike up if it sees any play.
Well put your money where your mouth is and get ready to either rub it in my face or catch some flack.
Are we referring to block here? My question remains though, how often do those clogged board states appear?
Yep, block. There's no lingering souls, olivia or resto anymore, there just aren't any playable flyers (apart from perhaps gift of orzhova-suited guys) in these type of decks to ping away at walkers. And given how many powerful blockers there are in GW (massive butts, populate) and GB (regeneration), stalled boards aren't uncommon. Reckoner can also contribte to a stalled board. This is why wescoe played glaring spotlight in his list.
And I don't spec, but I did just fill out my set of these when I saw how low it was.
Yeah Angel of Serenity should drop during the new season. Plus the first week or two of the format will be dominated by aggro decks, till people figure out how to build the control decks. But I believe Angel is the best 7 drop creature you can play in the format (like Elesh Norn was last season). It could definitely go back up to 15-18 again, especially if there are good cards that can cheat it in to play.
Trouble is it got outclassed by aetherling. Prior to that it was a Control finisher. It will still see some play, but yeah, post unburial rites its gonna tank.
Angel is much better against aggressive decks then Aetherling though. Aetherling does nothing against a horde of dudes.
Well, it depends. In a vacuum they're both rather ****ty vs. aggressive decks but I believe Aetherling offers more inevitability, jiving better with Control's game plan. I wonder if the meta can slow down to the point where ramping into 4WWW isn't such a crazy proposition. If that's the case, I can see it retaining it's current price tag. If not and there's no other option available to cheat it into play, it will drop like a rock.
How do you guys feel about picking up Unburial Rites after rotation? It sees play in a couple Modern decks. It's uncommon though, so they are pretty much everywhere.
I might just get a playset and move on.
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ISD was heavily drafted (unlike future site or shadowmoor). I think most modern decks play one unburial rites, though i think gerryt posted a modern griselbrand reanimator list with 2 unburial rites. I'm surprised you didn't pick up a playset already, i picked mine up for .05 each last year.
I'm not sure if everyone has stocked up on their shocks yet but it might be last call soon. They all hit their lows shortly after the release of DGM (aside from Temple Garden) and have been steadily trending up since. GTC shocks have seen a higher percentage increase in comparison to RTR shocks.
Haha, I ran into this in someone's sig and it reminded me of some of the discussions around here. I'm still kind of pleased that I basically predicted this in my DGM prices thread.
Denial - "It's just a bear that leaves a 1/1 behind when it dies..."
Anger - "Are people really paying 40$ for it?! You guys are so dumb!"
Bargaining - "I-it's probably gonna go down after the rotation... R-right?"
Depression - "I can't believe I didn't get them when they were 20$... I'm so stupid..."
Acceptance - "Here's 200$, can I have my playset now?"
What do you guys think Liliana of the Veil is going to do after rotation? I want to build a couple decks that fun her, but I don't want drop that much on one card if it's just going to rotate. What about Voice of Resurgence? Do you think it will hold it's price?
What do you guys think Liliana of the Veil is going to do after rotation? I want to build a couple decks that fun her, but I don't want drop that much on one card if it's just going to rotate. What about Voice of Resurgence? Do you think it will hold it's price?
Is that a good or bad thing? Earlier today they were selling it at .17. About two hours ago they bumped it up to .29. Now it's at .41? Interesting.
Edit: BTW, I've decided to hold. I figure that if interactions like the one with the Hydra keep getting spoiled (that horrible enchantment was just spoiled but it still has something to do with +1/+1 counters) the hype will continue to grow. Even though she's a legend, she still may end up as a 4-of due to the legend rule and upside. As for Worldspine Wurm, I will almost certainly sell at some point because I think it's obviously unplayble for a myriad of reasons. As soon as a see a slight dip I'm going to unload. Usually if I see a dip on supernovabots or mtggoldfish I can sell before the bots adjust.
Edit #2: My mistake I misread the bot. Yeah cardbot actually dropped the price from .51 to .41.
Cardbot and mtgotraders use the same prices (so does alphabot, marlonbot, and some others i'm missing). So you can just enter in cards onto cardbot's website and refresh, that way you have up to date prices, instead of checking out goldfish which only updates every 24 hours. Exava was up to .56, and now it's at .41.
Though mtgotrader's hotlist bot has higher buy prices than some of their counterparts.
Will exava be the cornerstone of a future standard decktype and become a 3+tix rare? Who the hell knows? Seems about as likely as her being a .05c rare in 3 months. That's why it doesn't matter if the hype is real. What you do know is that you can turn a, what, 200% profit now - if you can, seems like a good idea to cash some out. There's heaps and heaps of examples of hype not materialising, that basically describes 99% of what goes on in spoiler season. If you're able to cash in on some of that hype while it's happening, then that's usually a good idea.
I listened to one of their podcasts since it had the guy from the card nexus on it talking about the redemption fee increase. Those guys know nothing about mtgo, so I don't really care for it (it's all paper talk). But yeah that's some good advice.
Sorry about that
Here is the thing about Exava, I think she doesn't get really good until next Spring. The format starts slow in the Fall and speeds up as net sets get added so I think this spec is a bit longer than 6 months
I listen and agree. I would, however, rather take the risk of seeing her drop back down to .1 (her low) instead of cashing in on the 300 or so % profit because I really do like her upside. I thought about cashing out and buying a a set of shocks+ but then decided to ride it out. Her competition right now just seems weak. So weak in fact that I think her biggest competition comes in the form of an enchantment (Gruul War Chant). We'll see.
On one side I think she could get better as the card pool increases and more synergies start to present themselves. On the other, I feel like with every set release the chances of her being trumped by another R/x 4-drop increases. I'm not sure.
One other data point you should keep in mind is that exava has seen virtually no play in block. my most recent article had a deck with her in it in the "rogue" section, I think she's appeared maybe 3 or 4 other times in reported decklists out of the 600 or so that I've tracked. Rakdos aggro in block at least has been completely outclassed by the incredibly strong BTE-enabled mono red shell, with a light splash for one or two white/green cards in some cases.
It's easy in paper because you can watch cards start to decline. Other than a reprint nothing really tanks them.
In MTGO prices adjust within hours so demand has to be real for cards to move. (No transit lag).. It's one of the reasons I hate short term spec's on MTGO.
Exava passes the Doom Blade test also and this new Chandra would never find herself in a R/x shell aside from possibly the SB (for the control MU). I don't want to go into full blown card evaluation mode but she seems like she'd be much more comfortable in something like Big Red which is essentially the inverse of R/x. There's no way R/x is going to invest 4 mana to ping a creature, ping a player or to gain incremental card advantage. Making it so a creature can't block is meh when Firstfist Striker and something like Gruul War Chant either do it for much cheaper or more effectively. She doesn't threaten aggro curve toppers.
Your second point is extremely valid though. I'm aware of block and the decks/cards that it's comprised of but since I don't actually partake I am not familiar with the meta. Is there a specific thing holding her back? I do know the meta, on paper, seems to be polarized by Esper and RDW in general. Also, from what I can tell the R/x shells are running Rubblebelt Maka as their only 4-drop, which is really just a one mana battle trick. They seem to be hyper aggressive and solely concerned with going underneath their opponent. Can RDW really transfer over from block with such a low curve and remain productive?
Yeah, you have to remain extremely vigilant but that vigilance also pays dividends if you notice a trend right at its inception. Like I said I was able to buy Worldspine Wurm at .5 and sell it at .9 almost the day after Garruk was spoiled. There's also some lag. I've taken notice of couple bots which are a little slow on the uptake.
that's a great question. To understand why the block meta has played out as it has, I pretty well stand by my comments on rakdos aggro vs mono red in block that I made here. As for the standard portability of the two decks, just note that mono red preys on a few features of the block meta:
* zero good 1-cost removal spells. Mugging is closest, but non-instant and super narrow which has limited its appeal.
* No good 2-cost removal spells outside of red. This hurts esper decks quite badly, as they have to rely on az charm (which is phasing out due to voice) and precinct captain which gets neutralised by all sorts of things.
* Bad 3-colour mana bases, which either require a lot of shocks or are just inconsistent.
I haven't seen anything changing on #1, but doom blade helps #2 and who knows if theros will have duals to help #3. My bet is yes, but it's an unknown.
My initial reaction when he was spoiled was that he was awful and soon after mulling it over I reached the same conclusion. I just see so many inherent problems with him that I can't justify any type of investment, but then again, he's Tibalt low right now. Is he as bad as Tibalt? I don't think so but he's damn close.
I mean if he saw fringe play like Vraska I could see him shooting up to around 5 but I honestly think he's much worse than Vraska. Vraska's Vindicate legitimately comes in handy and legitimately threatens for value if she can survive a couple turns. I don't see any value in either of Gideon's +1 or 0 ability.
The +1 seems so odd in design to me. His +1 becomes better the more your opponent advances their own board position. Aside from the times where you and your opponent have reached board parity (how often can you actually count on this occurring?), his +1 will only be good when you're loosing. Furthermore, you really can ignore Gideon and just go for the throat at the point that his +1 is most effective. I really wish he took into account your own board state instead of your opponents.
The 0 is interesting but honestly nothing special. He can be chumped so he'll never represent a truly threatening clock and he offers exactly nothing on defense, essentially detracting from one of the obvious perks of indestructibility. Also, again, I find it really ironic that the amount he can grow is going to be directly proportional to your opponents board state. If he can grow substantially, odds are your opponent is substantially ahead and you should be more concerned with either racing or stabilizing.
Ultimately, aside from what the +1 and 0 abilities specifically do, I think it all comes down to the fact that he can't protect himself, effect the board or generate any type of CA. For a 4CMC PW, I feel like that's just unacceptable and I'd actually argue he has none of the hallmark traits of a playable PW.
I'm not saying it's fantastic or anything, though, but it does do some stuff in the right shell - eg. GW midrange, bant creature-control. I mainly just think 2.8 is way too low for it given that it could easily spike up if it sees any play.
Are we referring to block here? My question remains though, how often do those clogged board states appear? It's not like you're actively trying to reach board parity; you're trying to win. Also, how can this guy ever dig you out of a hole? I'm still honestly not convinced he fits in any shell aside from Turbo Fog.
Well put your money where your mouth is and get ready to either rub it in my face or catch some flack.
Yep, block. There's no lingering souls, olivia or resto anymore, there just aren't any playable flyers (apart from perhaps gift of orzhova-suited guys) in these type of decks to ping away at walkers. And given how many powerful blockers there are in GW (massive butts, populate) and GB (regeneration), stalled boards aren't uncommon. Reckoner can also contribte to a stalled board. This is why wescoe played glaring spotlight in his list.
And I don't spec, but I did just fill out my set of these when I saw how low it was.
The +1 sucks. If you could target yourself he'd be a lot more playable. But making it opponents only, lets your opponent play around it.
For stalled board states in creature mirrors you can play frontline medic, which is less awful vs control since it can counter revelation.
Well, it depends. In a vacuum they're both rather ****ty vs. aggressive decks but I believe Aetherling offers more inevitability, jiving better with Control's game plan. I wonder if the meta can slow down to the point where ramping into 4WWW isn't such a crazy proposition. If that's the case, I can see it retaining it's current price tag. If not and there's no other option available to cheat it into play, it will drop like a rock.
I might just get a playset and move on.
Watery Grave:
Low - 2.30 (5/16/13)
Price - 3.27
Percentage = +30%
Breeding Pool:
Low - 2.59 (6/22/13)
Price - 3.53
Percentage = +27%
Godless Shrine:
Low - 2.45 (5/21/13)
Price - 3.73
Percentage = +34%
Sacred Foundry:
Low - 2.51 (5/22/13)
Price - 3.82
Percentage = +34%
Stomping Ground
Low - 3.58 (5/21/13)
Price - 5.10
Percentage = +30%
Steam Vents
Low - 2.52 (5/17/13)
Price - 3.64
Percentage = +31%
Hallowed Fountain
Low - 2.80 (5/22/13)
Price - 2.97
Percentage = +6%
Overgrown Tomb
Low - 2.65 (6/22/13)
Price - 3.22
Percentage = +18%
Blood Crypt
Low - 2.44 (6/3/13)
Price - 2.97
Percentage = +18%
Temple Garden
Low - 3.2 (6/10/13)
Price - 3.81
Percentage = +16%
Denial - "It's just a bear that leaves a 1/1 behind when it dies..."
Anger - "Are people really paying 40$ for it?! You guys are so dumb!"
Bargaining - "I-it's probably gonna go down after the rotation... R-right?"
Depression - "I can't believe I didn't get them when they were 20$... I'm so stupid..."
Acceptance - "Here's 200$, can I have my playset now?"
price discussion of liliana here:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=493656