I think the vault is very suspicious at mythic as it looks quite playable. If it becomes a 4 of as the new go to board wipe for control decks don't expect it to be less than double what it is now.
All that stuff targets I've just realized. I guess there's still Boros Charm
yes and no. I think it'll go like most hosers do. It'll run in cycles much like Dredge in Legacy. They'll get hated out for a few weeks, then when the Back to Natures come out of people's boards, they'll win a big event and be back for a week or two until people hose them out again. (See Legacy Dredge for a great long running example of this)
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What are people's opinions on Spectra Ward? Especially the foil, Channelfireball has regulars at .50 and foils at 1.99.
Auras rarely see any extensive competitive play. Rancor is really the only one that has with any sort of regularity and it offers A LOT for the mana. It returns to your hand which prevents 2-for-1s and only costs 1 mana to cast so it is very feasible to recast. With all the enchantment hate that's out right now I wouldn't expect to see it played much and thus its price will likely drop/not change.
I'm a little surprised to see no speculation on Chief Engineer. It seems like an awesome addition to Mono-U Tron.
I'm really just comparing it to Angelic Destiny in my mind, might not be as good but that's what I'm seeing.
Nissa, Worldwaker's price has gone crazy since the prerelease. I remember she was $18 on Saturday and now she has almost doubled since then. Once the set comes out, how much will her price drop as more product is cracked? I think her price mainly has to do with the limited copies going around from the prerelease and there's a dead period right now as no more M15 is being opened until Friday.
Nissa, Worldwaker's price has gone crazy since the prerelease. I remember she was $18 on Saturday and now she has almost doubled since then. Once the set comes out, how much will her price drop as more product is cracked? I think her price mainly has to do with the limited copies going around from the prerelease and there's a dead period right now as no more M15 is being opened until Friday.
I'm curious to see how relevant she'll be in standard, or perhaps modern. I pulled one at a prerelease and she's obviously a scary limited bomb, but I don't know what her implications in constructed will be.
I put her in my RUG Monsters build and she combos well. Helps pump Polukranos, World Eater and other monstrosities. She's just a bomb...and she'll get much better when Supreme Verdict rotates.
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I put her in my RUG Monsters build and she combos well. Helps pump Polukranos, World Eater and other monstrosities. She's just a bomb...and she'll get much better when Supreme Verdict rotates.
Yup. Think it's surprising people how powerful Nissa really is. Her middle +1 is just gravy. The first +1 on a 5drop PW can do work for any deck. Expect Nissa in quite a few G/x decks too from what I've seen.
Looks like a lot of stores have already bumped up her price quite significantly with eBay showing strong demand. Pro Tour before rotation will be interesting.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
She's probably the best new planeswalker, it's just that people keep trying to pair her with darksteel citadel which is really unnecessary. Afterall, Koth was pretty awesome.
To put it into perspective she is beginning to reach Karn levels. I think her price for standard is set at this point (depending on what Khans drops but I digress). Her movement from here out will be modern driven. She really ramps up Genesis Wave decks and now Green devotion seems to be a "thing".
edit - Not to say she isn't in a little bit of a bubble atm. I should specify that her movement up will be modern driven.
her and Citadel don't even work that great together. You can get a 4/4 indestructible trample, but she only untaps forest and only ults for basics. So, you actually end up hurting 2 abilities out of 3.
#2. Xenagos, the Reveler. He's on par with Garruk Wildspeaker power wise and just hasn't really made a hit in standard yet. He's a really good solid pick.
#3. Nylea, God of the Hunt. Devotion is going to be a thing. A 6/6 indestructible for 4 that also acts as a mana-sink seems like a solid one to rise (especially with all the love green got).
#4. Soul of Innistrad. This is a great way to win in a grindy game and Mono-B Grind is a thing. He's also really low.
#5. Return to the Ranks. This is also really low. Right now I just see this as having a ton of sideboard potential (in every format), but there's also a lot of combo potential for it and if that happens the price could take off.
Underworld Cerberus makes my list because he's really good in a vacuum and is really low, but he's not going anywhere for a few months (and maybe not at all), so there's no hurry. Where he's at right now though I don't think you can actually lose on him though. He's just that cheap to pick up.
Honorable Mention: Ajani, Mentor of Heroes. I think he can still come down a few dollars, but whether he does or not I think he's worth picking up in the next few months. If you play standard, there's a good chance you want him after rotation. If you don't there's a good chance he gains after rotation. THS block and M15 gave green a lot of love, so I would expect this to climb as it will probably be a staple in the next standard format.
her and Citadel don't even work that great together. You can get a 4/4 indestructible trample, but she only untaps forest and only ults for basics. So, you actually end up hurting 2 abilities out of 3.
#3. Nylea, God of the Hunt. Devotion is going to be a thing. A 6/6 indestructible for 4 that also acts as a mana-sink seems like a solid one to rise (especially with all the love green got).
#5. Return to the Ranks. This is also really low. Right now I just see this as having a ton of sideboard potential (in every format), but there's also a lot of combo potential for it and if that happens the price could take off.
Genesis Hydra[/card] also seems potentially bonkers, in standard and EDH. With Scry being a big mechanic in Theros to help setup the play, its biggest downside seems to be that it doesn't have trample (is it weird to anyone else that most hydras don't have trample?), which Nylea helps with.
This also makes me wonder if Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx will creep back up after rotation. With black and blue devotion already being decks, and Green possibly being pushed into T1 with this, I honestly am surprised it's only $5. Is there something I'm missing here? Is it because of the speculation of Khans potentially being a wedge block?
Me gusta Genesis Hydra as well. I've been playing with Mono-green and that card is bonkers in it. Even if it's just jammed into a conventional deck, it's good. Soldier of the Pantheon is creeping up. Wedge set means Pro multicolored may be relevant after all with RTR block rotating. I'm also hoping Firedrinker Satyr becomes relevant like we all hoped it would, a la Stormkirk Noble in it's second year.
Just noticed this as well. I was shocked when I went to buy some on MTGO, where things are usually cheaper, and they are still 9 tickets. I mean, what deck is running these stupid things at the moment? They should not be this high at all.
Hero's Downfall seems to have stabilized around $5 but is the 7th most played card in standard.
Any chance it will rise up?
Probably will depend a lot on what's printed in Khans block. If there's mana fixing to make playing black as an additional color OK, then yes. If planeswalkers and large creatures become very prevalent, then yes. If wedges are pushed hard to the point where the double black becomes a problem, no (although Urborg exists again). If it's a format of fast little creatures, then probably not.
Long-term I'd say it's a good card to have, since it's a very nice piece of removal, but that's post-standard application.
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How is no one talking about Goblin Rabblemaster? Went from less than $1 mid on tcgplayer each to $4 each because of PTM15. Granted, this hasn't translated to a price hike on sold listings on eBay yet but the current bids are certainly getting up there for sets. Did anyone else other than me buy a bunch when they showed up in feature matches?
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Heliod's Pilgrim + Spectra Ward is nearly playable.
They have done a bit to help white beat the wrath. Ephemeral Shields, Spirit Bonds, Ajani's Presence. The problem is Perilous Vault.
I think the vault is very suspicious at mythic as it looks quite playable. If it becomes a 4 of as the new go to board wipe for control decks don't expect it to be less than double what it is now.
All that stuff targets I've just realized. I guess there's still Boros Charm
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I'm really just comparing it to Angelic Destiny in my mind, might not be as good but that's what I'm seeing.
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I'm curious to see how relevant she'll be in standard, or perhaps modern. I pulled one at a prerelease and she's obviously a scary limited bomb, but I don't know what her implications in constructed will be.
Yup. Think it's surprising people how powerful Nissa really is. Her middle +1 is just gravy. The first +1 on a 5drop PW can do work for any deck. Expect Nissa in quite a few G/x decks too from what I've seen.
Looks like a lot of stores have already bumped up her price quite significantly with eBay showing strong demand. Pro Tour before rotation will be interesting.
edit - Not to say she isn't in a little bit of a bubble atm. I should specify that her movement up will be modern driven.
My #1 pick for best card to buy right now is Genesis Hydra. I have no idea how he's at $2. He's #3 in CFB's top 8 cards from M15 behind only Nissa and Painlands (http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/magic-tv-top-8-magic-201x-cards/ they start talking about M15 at around 27 minutes in). It's also a 4-of in Adam Yurchick's first brew for M15 (http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11941). The ability is on par with cascade and big ramp is already all over standard. So, yeah... this is my top buy.
#2. Xenagos, the Reveler. He's on par with Garruk Wildspeaker power wise and just hasn't really made a hit in standard yet. He's a really good solid pick.
#3. Nylea, God of the Hunt. Devotion is going to be a thing. A 6/6 indestructible for 4 that also acts as a mana-sink seems like a solid one to rise (especially with all the love green got).
#4. Soul of Innistrad. This is a great way to win in a grindy game and Mono-B Grind is a thing. He's also really low.
#5. Return to the Ranks. This is also really low. Right now I just see this as having a ton of sideboard potential (in every format), but there's also a lot of combo potential for it and if that happens the price could take off.
Underworld Cerberus makes my list because he's really good in a vacuum and is really low, but he's not going anywhere for a few months (and maybe not at all), so there's no hurry. Where he's at right now though I don't think you can actually lose on him though. He's just that cheap to pick up.
Honorable Mention: Ajani, Mentor of Heroes. I think he can still come down a few dollars, but whether he does or not I think he's worth picking up in the next few months. If you play standard, there's a good chance you want him after rotation. If you don't there's a good chance he gains after rotation. THS block and M15 gave green a lot of love, so I would expect this to climb as it will probably be a staple in the next standard format.
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Return to the Ranks may also be a card that helps Zoo be a thing again in modern. Gets back Tarmogoyf, Wild Nacatl, Scavenging Ooze, etc after a sweeper. Granted, there still needs to be an answer to Anger of the Gods, but it's a step in the right direction.
Genesis Hydra[/card] also seems potentially bonkers, in standard and EDH. With Scry being a big mechanic in Theros to help setup the play, its biggest downside seems to be that it doesn't have trample (is it weird to anyone else that most hydras don't have trample?), which Nylea helps with.
This also makes me wonder if Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx will creep back up after rotation. With black and blue devotion already being decks, and Green possibly being pushed into T1 with this, I honestly am surprised it's only $5. Is there something I'm missing here? Is it because of the speculation of Khans potentially being a wedge block?
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Genesis Hydra looks like the real deal. Its lack of evasion is overcome by the fact that it spawns a second, potentially unknown threat.
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Soldier of the Pantheon is creeping up. Wedge set means Pro multicolored may be relevant after all with RTR block rotating. I'm also hoping Firedrinker Satyr becomes relevant like we all hoped it would, a la Stormkirk Noble in it's second year.
Genesis hydra is a powerful card in the right deck not really surprised.
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Any chance it will rise up?
Probably will depend a lot on what's printed in Khans block. If there's mana fixing to make playing black as an additional color OK, then yes. If planeswalkers and large creatures become very prevalent, then yes. If wedges are pushed hard to the point where the double black becomes a problem, no (although Urborg exists again). If it's a format of fast little creatures, then probably not.
Long-term I'd say it's a good card to have, since it's a very nice piece of removal, but that's post-standard application.
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