Birthing Pod For those who like card links. It's been talked for weeks as a potential jumper, so no wonder if somebody made the move.
There's still 41 copies of Pod on TCG (as I checked, main page shows 21 sellers having any left [rechecked my searches to stores willing to send to US and found some others, but still not many]) and 650 on MKM. It does seem that the cheaper copies are disappearing from TCG and SCG is out of stock and new price being up to 9.5$. Ebay still has some cheaper buy-it-nows availlable, but not on playsets. I didn't dig too much, maybe there have been plenty of playsets bought, or it might just be a coincidence. Cheap singles are still out there.
While lot of the low end copies have disappeared, European buyers still have a window to buy these at 5 € at MKM. I would expect the new price to peak around 15$ and come back to 10, before hitting 15 again after Modern season starts.
Also [card]Genesis Wave[card] made a move up to 5$.
Does anyone see young pyromancer rising to the $5 range soon? I bought about 45 of them when it was .80 and now they have hit about 2.25. Any more ride or will it take a breakout deck to push it further?
Does anyone see young pyromancer rising to the $5 range soon? I bought about 45 of them when it was .80 and now they have hit about 2.25. Any more ride or will it take a breakout deck to push it further?
I doubt it will get any higher than it is right now while it is still in Standard. A year or two after it rotates is when I expect it to rise to $5 or higher.
This, copies are disappearing, but in a trickle rather than a flood. There are actually more copies available on TCG than their were this morning.
Still, the price is headed up, up, up.
Not to mention for a true buyout it would take someone thousands of dollars to pull off. I mean this card is still easily available since it was from a recent set, that was opened fairly well, not to mention the extra copies from event decks.
Summoner's Egg just got bought out pretty much on MKM. Anyone know why?
I picked up like 12 copies on the Travis Woo speculative angle. I mean the card has potential even if Woo doesn't break it. The card is very similar to show and tell (when dealing with creatures) but obviously nowhere near as powerful.
I mean as recently as Summer of 2009 you could pick up show and tells for a buck on Ebay.
I picked up like 12 copies on the Travis Woo speculative angle. I mean the card has potential even if Woo doesn't break it. The card is very similar to show and tell (when dealing with creatures) but obviously nowhere near as powerful.
I mean as recently as Summer of 2009 you could pick up show and tells for a buck on Ebay.
you guys see, its not one person buying out to jack up a card.. its guys just like this guy, buying low and selling it off for profit afterwards. The only thing is, its 100's if not close to 1000's of individuals doing this, all at the same time.
This makes sense for such a small market, with little risk for the buyer, a lot of perceive value to be had and a ton of speculators just a key stroke away..
I'm worried. MM managed to kill a lot of value but backfired on the most expensive cards. They wanted Ethersworn Canonist price trajectories across the board but got $130 goyf instead. I think theyre going to try harder to get goyf down to 20 which means theylz get it down to about $5 from overzealousness. It feels like a lottery. If yiu own staples that wont be in this event deck youll make out like a bandit as demand rises from people buying these things and getting hooked on modern.
Sell now before we see a slew of announcements of modern products?
Or you could suck up the potential loss the few high end staples you own lose and just except you paid to own them at a time they were worth more, and have since decreased, its called life just enjoy the format, if your worried about return on investment, try wall street.
Or you could suck up the potential loss the few high end staples you own lose and just except you paid to own them at a time they were worth more, and have since decreased, its called life just enjoy the format, if your worried about return on investment, try wall street.
Or I could just sell it all and leave modern. Very healthy for the format from what I understand.
I am not worried about return, I am worried about depreciation. If I fully depreciated my cards and added that up, it would make Magic ALOT more expensive that it currently is for me. I don't want to spend that much on Magic.
Anyways, Yomako is correct. It is too early to decide anything, but if this trend keeps up (if I hear about MM2 and a "Modern Arsenal" type product in the next couple of months) you can believe that someone who has put money first and foremost and magic's longevity a distant second has taken over the helm of WOTC
Standard event decks contain 10 rares. Even if this one contains 20, it'll be a drop in the bucket as far as modern prices, and that's assuming a bunch aren't filler.
If you play modern, growth of the format gives you more opportunity to play your cards (the real reason most of us buy them, and the real "value" we get from them), and for every staple in your binder that takes a hit from reprinting, others will likely increase with new demand.
If you don't play modern, I would agree that speculating on a format that was created solely so WotC could reprint cards in it at will is not the best place to be.
If you don't play modern, I would agree that speculating on a format that was created solely so WotC could reprint cards in it at will is not the best place to be.
This old canard being trotted out again, eh? "Solely" so they could reprint cards? Hardly. They could have done Masques to present in that case. The format in their mind was about having a quasi-eternal format unlike Legacy, one that reflected more of their current design philosophy and preferred deck characteristics. Their management of the banned list indicates that Modern is, to them, about making a sort of "Standard-plus", a relatively safe place for people to continue playing their cards after they rotate. That they have the ability to reprint anything in Modern is nice for them, but it wasn't anywhere close to being their "sole" reason for creating the format.
And I don't buy your argument about increased demand turning things back around. So far, Modern Masters was just a giant wealth transfer away from my binder and into WotC's coffers.
As for the specifics of the event deck, a $75 event deck is beyond the price range of most of those budget players who whine incessantly for cheap mythics, etc. A few of them might save up and snare a copy, but I expect that if WotC puts much value in the deck, most will just be bought by dealers and parted out, so the cards will end up on the singles market and not in the decks of new Modern players. It will depress prices without growing the format at all.
I expect the Modern event deck to have some of the high value modern rares that they just couldn't fit into Modern Masters due to draft format constraints. So those are the cards to look at. I just want to know where they came up with the MSRP. Event decks are not typically good for playing anything higher than FNM, so what could warrant that price?
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It's more played then Lavaclaw Reaches, and the GW Vial / Junk decks can play it.
There's still 41 copies of Pod on TCG (as I checked, main page shows 21 sellers having any left [rechecked my searches to stores willing to send to US and found some others, but still not many]) and 650 on MKM. It does seem that the cheaper copies are disappearing from TCG and SCG is out of stock and new price being up to 9.5$. Ebay still has some cheaper buy-it-nows availlable, but not on playsets. I didn't dig too much, maybe there have been plenty of playsets bought, or it might just be a coincidence. Cheap singles are still out there.
While lot of the low end copies have disappeared, European buyers still have a window to buy these at 5 € at MKM. I would expect the new price to peak around 15$ and come back to 10, before hitting 15 again after Modern season starts.
Also [card]Genesis Wave[card] made a move up to 5$.
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I doubt it will get any higher than it is right now while it is still in Standard. A year or two after it rotates is when I expect it to rise to $5 or higher.
I don't think we have a true buyout here, it's more that speculation on the card has intensified.
Everyone is picking them up, and if that counts as a buyout then so be it.
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This, copies are disappearing, but in a trickle rather than a flood. There are actually more copies available on TCG than their were this morning.
Still, the price is headed up, up, up.
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Not to mention for a true buyout it would take someone thousands of dollars to pull off. I mean this card is still easily available since it was from a recent set, that was opened fairly well, not to mention the extra copies from event decks.
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Travis Woo's new deck, lol. Anything weird he touches people are speccing on hard after NBD.
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I picked up like 12 copies on the Travis Woo speculative angle. I mean the card has potential even if Woo doesn't break it. The card is very similar to show and tell (when dealing with creatures) but obviously nowhere near as powerful.
I mean as recently as Summer of 2009 you could pick up show and tells for a buck on Ebay.
Feel free to bid on my cards here!
you guys see, its not one person buying out to jack up a card.. its guys just like this guy, buying low and selling it off for profit afterwards. The only thing is, its 100's if not close to 1000's of individuals doing this, all at the same time.
This makes sense for such a small market, with little risk for the buyer, a lot of perceive value to be had and a ton of speculators just a key stroke away..
(no bad intentions by this monopoman :p)
I'm worried. MM managed to kill a lot of value but backfired on the most expensive cards. They wanted Ethersworn Canonist price trajectories across the board but got $130 goyf instead. I think theyre going to try harder to get goyf down to 20 which means theylz get it down to about $5 from overzealousness. It feels like a lottery. If yiu own staples that wont be in this event deck youll make out like a bandit as demand rises from people buying these things and getting hooked on modern.
Sell now before we see a slew of announcements of modern products?
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Or I could just sell it all and leave modern. Very healthy for the format from what I understand.
I am not worried about return, I am worried about depreciation. If I fully depreciated my cards and added that up, it would make Magic ALOT more expensive that it currently is for me. I don't want to spend that much on Magic.
Anyways, Yomako is correct. It is too early to decide anything, but if this trend keeps up (if I hear about MM2 and a "Modern Arsenal" type product in the next couple of months) you can believe that someone who has put money first and foremost and magic's longevity a distant second has taken over the helm of WOTC
Legacy
RUG DelverRUG
BUG DelverBUG
Modern
Good ol' fashioned JundBGR)[/I]
Standard
Too Boring
Commander
Azusa, Lost But SeekingG [I](foiling out)[/I]
If you play modern, growth of the format gives you more opportunity to play your cards (the real reason most of us buy them, and the real "value" we get from them), and for every staple in your binder that takes a hit from reprinting, others will likely increase with new demand.
If you don't play modern, I would agree that speculating on a format that was created solely so WotC could reprint cards in it at will is not the best place to be.
Rancored Elf will cancel your order if prices go up. Read about him and other shady vendors here.
My Trade Thread!
This old canard being trotted out again, eh? "Solely" so they could reprint cards? Hardly. They could have done Masques to present in that case. The format in their mind was about having a quasi-eternal format unlike Legacy, one that reflected more of their current design philosophy and preferred deck characteristics. Their management of the banned list indicates that Modern is, to them, about making a sort of "Standard-plus", a relatively safe place for people to continue playing their cards after they rotate. That they have the ability to reprint anything in Modern is nice for them, but it wasn't anywhere close to being their "sole" reason for creating the format.
And I don't buy your argument about increased demand turning things back around. So far, Modern Masters was just a giant wealth transfer away from my binder and into WotC's coffers.
As for the specifics of the event deck, a $75 event deck is beyond the price range of most of those budget players who whine incessantly for cheap mythics, etc. A few of them might save up and snare a copy, but I expect that if WotC puts much value in the deck, most will just be bought by dealers and parted out, so the cards will end up on the singles market and not in the decks of new Modern players. It will depress prices without growing the format at all.
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