This was mentioned in the Legacy thread, but it is relevant for us too: Engineered Explosives is seeing a big sudden price spike.
You can still get a ton of NM copies for $10-$12 in NM condition on tcgplayer, its been $10 or so for a while, so Im not sure, other than SCG suddenly running out and upping the price, where this price increase is.
Why sowing salt? I picked up a play set but every time I go to put them in a deck I just end up playing blood moon instead.
This is a side effect of the MTGO metagame and I'm not sure how well it translates to real life. Jund is the most popular deck and RG-Tron is #2 or #3. RG-Tron is a nightmare for Jund without sowing salt.
Blood Moon is not very effective vs. Tron because most versions have access to 3 Nature's Claim after sideboard, not counting Oblivion Stones maindeck. Even if it was effective, Jund's manabase is too reliant on non-basics to consider running it.
Question, should I pick up a playset of Valakuts now, or wait? They shot up like 3 or 4 dollars after the unbanning, but will they still go up or do you guys think that they will drop?
I think that the price of Valakut and Prismatic Omen are both tied to how well Valakut does at GP:Chicago in three weeks. I also believe that neither has much headroom, Prismatic Omen is priced as if Valakut is tier 1, if it does not live up to its reputation I see a slow decline.
Just dropped in the thread to point out that I think some of the price increase in Geist of Saint Traft is because it's starting to land on people's radars in Modern due to U/R/W aggro starting to impact the metagame. If geist does well at Chicago and is still popular in Standard, it might start heading to $40.
If the store owner says that I can't trade in the premises, I'll just go outside. If he says that I can't trade within 10m of his premises, I'll go to 11 meters. If he says that he doesn't want to see me trading, I will put a basket over his head and continue trading.
Yes, he's a local legend. He's only known to take his clothes off before he goes into the Ladies' Lockerroom. Nobody knows what he does in there because he's invisible, but it's almost certainly tons of masturbating.
I doubt so, most players will dump them after the tournament and it will be back to square one all over again.
You are silly to think that the supply from the Pro Tour will be able to affect prices. With these kinds of events, it's always how well the card perform that will determine its prices.
Apparently there is a Nivmagus Elemental / Kiln Fiend deck that is pretty interesting at the PT. According to Twitter, it is capable of a turn 2 win, but weak to Jund. Nivmagus up from bulk status to $1.50/$2.
In summation.....Star Trek wins a prolonged naval battle against superior, yet less technologically advanced, numbers, with Picard leading the assault, while Kirk takes your soul by laying out Solo and probably his manservant Chewy as well, before impregnating and ditching your Princess.
And what does it use to generate those wins ? Because it all need to be free instants or sorceries to be cast on turn 2 if those two cards are key and the only ones I can think of are Pacts (that actually don't deplete your hand). And even then there isn't a combo to speak of unless somehow we are generating free spells on turn 2 here somehow.
You are silly to think that the supply from the Pro Tour will be able to affect prices. With these kinds of events, it's always how well the card perform that will determine its prices.
I'm referring to the modern fever generated by the pro tour, the interest in modern cards will end and pple go back to playing standard thus the dumping.
If the store owner says that I can't trade in the premises, I'll just go outside. If he says that I can't trade within 10m of his premises, I'll go to 11 meters. If he says that he doesn't want to see me trading, I will put a basket over his head and continue trading.
Yes, he's a local legend. He's only known to take his clothes off before he goes into the Ladies' Lockerroom. Nobody knows what he does in there because he's invisible, but it's almost certainly tons of masturbating.
And what does it use to generate those wins ? Because it all need to be free instants or sorceries to be cast on turn 2 if those two cards are key and the only ones I can think of are Pacts (that actually don't deplete your hand). And even then there isn't a combo to speak of unless somehow we are generating free spells on turn 2 here somehow.
Free/cheap spells and storm (Ground Rift). As shown in the feature matches, though, it gets blown out hard by Jund or any deck that stops its alpha strike. I don't think the deck is going to gain any traction.
Thanks to the announcement that the Modern Masters set will only go through Alara Reborn, the fetchlands from Zendikar are going to skyrocket. Buy them while you can, guys.
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WoTC, thank you for finally announcing the Modern format, an eternal format where everyone can participate.
Thanks to the announcement that the Modern Masters set will only go through Alara Reborn, the fetchlands from Zendikar are going to skyrocket. Buy them while you can, guys.
They've already been skyrocketing- this just adds to it.
It's highly unlikely that these 5 cards get reprinted before the original Onslaught versions.
So I've got a certain amount of trepidation about this "New Chronicles" Modern Masters.
I was around for Chronicles, and enjoyed that it made available cards I didn't want to pay full price for(esp. City of Brass, as I recall). While I do have an extensive collection, I certainly don't have everything I'd potentially want from this set. Will it be a list of everything popular/expensive from 8th-Alara Reborn? A mix of popular/expensive Modern cards, with cards that are popular/expensive/played in other formats(Legacy, EDH)? The 'usual' assortment of reprints, with some valuable, some mediocre, and some worthless--more of a 'timeshifted'? What about the desired stuff that doesn't get reprinted--will it be sprinkled throughout new set(s), FTV's, etc., as selling points? Will we get future editions yearly/3-5 years apart/etc., or is this a "one-time" "two-time" release--and will those editions cover all of modern, Zen-whatever, or something else? Do you put in cards on the current banlist, knowing full well the banlist might change?
Prices on all the reprinted stuff will drop dramatically due to increased supply, or the potential thereof; I don't think anyone's going to be looking to pick up Tarmogoyfs at anywhere close to current value, even with the announced reprint (w/different art, too) so far off. Expect potential reprint targets to drop in value as people try to limit their exposure (for example, the advice to dump modern staples for Zen fetches).
From a scheduling standpoint--how do you sell M14, with this being on shelves? M13 has been below par, due to card choice/people saving their money for RTR; I can't help but think that this will cannibalize sales of M14 so long as it can.
We've seen speculation of a "New Chronicles" this set for some time; how they implement it, and answer these questions, will determine its success or failure--but could also determine the long-term future of the game. WOTC wants the game to survive, thrive, and be around for a long time--but they've made mistakes before.
So I've got a certain amount of trepidation about this "New Chronicles" Modern Masters.
I was around for Chronicles, and enjoyed that it made available cards I didn't want to pay full price for(esp. City of Brass, as I recall). While I do have an extensive collection, I certainly don't have everything I'd potentially want from this set. Will it be a list of everything popular/expensive from 8th-Alara Reborn? A mix of popular/expensive Modern cards, with cards that are popular/expensive/played in other formats(Legacy, EDH)? The 'usual' assortment of reprints, with some valuable, some mediocre, and some worthless--more of a 'timeshifted'? What about the desired stuff that doesn't get reprinted--will it be sprinkled throughout new set(s), FTV's, etc., as selling points? Will we get future editions yearly/3-5 years apart/etc., or is this a "one-time" "two-time" release--and will those editions cover all of modern, Zen-whatever, or something else? Do you put in cards on the current banlist, knowing full well the banlist might change?
Prices on all the reprinted stuff will drop dramatically due to increased supply, or the potential thereof; I don't think anyone's going to be looking to pick up Tarmogoyfs at anywhere close to current value, even with the announced reprint (w/different art, too) so far off. Expect potential reprint targets to drop in value as people try to limit their exposure (for example, the advice to dump modern staples for Zen fetches).
From a scheduling standpoint--how do you sell M14, with this being on shelves? M13 has been below par, due to card choice/people saving their money for RTR; I can't help but think that this will cannibalize sales of M14 so long as it can.
We've seen speculation of a "New Chronicles" this set for some time; how they implement it, and answer these questions, will determine its success or failure--but could also determine the long-term future of the game. WOTC wants the game to survive, thrive, and be around for a long time--but they've made mistakes before.
1. On his blog, Maro said that M13 has been selling well.
2. A very small fraction of Standard players also play Modern, I highly doubt this product will tank M14 sales.
The FS Tarmogoyf, Bobs, Thoughtseize will definitely take a dip. But with price memory do you think Goyf "settle" around $50, Bobs back to $20, and Seizes at $15?
The FS Tarmogoyf, Bobs, Thoughtseize will definitely take a dip. But with price memory do you think Goyf "settle" around $50, Bobs back to $20, and Seizes at $15?
I don't think Goyf will be Sub-50. It is too good, too many players want it, it is good in both Modern and Legacy.
It obviously depends on how much of this set is really printed. I think depending on the rarities of Bob and Seizes (I think Dark Confidant will be the Mythic of the two) I think Bob will get down to at least 30 probably more like 25. I think Thoughtseize will get to 15, it'll take a lot to push that card lower than that I think.
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I just want people who redraft to admit this:
"I can't draft objectively unless I am able to guarantee that I receive at least 3 rares. I am also better than most average/new players so I want to make sure that I get the best rares and they end up with worse ones. I care more about the monetary value of cards than actually playing the game for decent prizes."
You can still get a ton of NM copies for $10-$12 in NM condition on tcgplayer, its been $10 or so for a while, so Im not sure, other than SCG suddenly running out and upping the price, where this price increase is.
This is a side effect of the MTGO metagame and I'm not sure how well it translates to real life. Jund is the most popular deck and RG-Tron is #2 or #3. RG-Tron is a nightmare for Jund without sowing salt.
Blood Moon is not very effective vs. Tron because most versions have access to 3 Nature's Claim after sideboard, not counting Oblivion Stones maindeck. Even if it was effective, Jund's manabase is too reliant on non-basics to consider running it.
I think that the price of Valakut and Prismatic Omen are both tied to how well Valakut does at GP:Chicago in three weeks. I also believe that neither has much headroom, Prismatic Omen is priced as if Valakut is tier 1, if it does not live up to its reputation I see a slow decline.
I doubt so, most players will dump them after the tournament and it will be back to square one all over again.
You are silly to think that the supply from the Pro Tour will be able to affect prices. With these kinds of events, it's always how well the card perform that will determine its prices.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=487991
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I'm referring to the modern fever generated by the pro tour, the interest in modern cards will end and pple go back to playing standard thus the dumping.
Free/cheap spells and storm (Ground Rift). As shown in the feature matches, though, it gets blown out hard by Jund or any deck that stops its alpha strike. I don't think the deck is going to gain any traction.
They've already been skyrocketing- this just adds to it.
It's highly unlikely that these 5 cards get reprinted before the original Onslaught versions.
Current post- Grand Prix KC Modern Postmortem (7/7/13)
"New Chronicles"Modern Masters.I was around for Chronicles, and enjoyed that it made available cards I didn't want to pay full price for(esp. City of Brass, as I recall). While I do have an extensive collection, I certainly don't have everything I'd potentially want from this set. Will it be a list of everything popular/expensive from 8th-Alara Reborn? A mix of popular/expensive Modern cards, with cards that are popular/expensive/played in other formats(Legacy, EDH)? The 'usual' assortment of reprints, with some valuable, some mediocre, and some worthless--more of a 'timeshifted'? What about the desired stuff that doesn't get reprinted--will it be sprinkled throughout new set(s), FTV's, etc., as selling points? Will we get future editions yearly/3-5 years apart/etc., or is this a
"one-time""two-time" release--and will those editions cover all of modern, Zen-whatever, or something else? Do you put in cards on the current banlist, knowing full well the banlist might change?Prices on all the reprinted stuff will drop dramatically due to increased supply, or the potential thereof; I don't think anyone's going to be looking to pick up Tarmogoyfs at anywhere close to current value, even with the announced reprint (w/different art, too) so far off. Expect potential reprint targets to drop in value as people try to limit their exposure (for example, the advice to dump modern staples for Zen fetches).
From a scheduling standpoint--how do you sell M14, with this being on shelves? M13 has been below par, due to card choice/people saving their money for RTR; I can't help but think that this will cannibalize sales of M14 so long as it can.
We've seen speculation of a
"New Chronicles"this set for some time; how they implement it, and answer these questions, will determine its success or failure--but could also determine the long-term future of the game. WOTC wants the game to survive, thrive, and be around for a long time--but they've made mistakes before.1. On his blog, Maro said that M13 has been selling well.
2. A very small fraction of Standard players also play Modern, I highly doubt this product will tank M14 sales.
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I don't think Goyf will be Sub-50. It is too good, too many players want it, it is good in both Modern and Legacy.
It obviously depends on how much of this set is really printed. I think depending on the rarities of Bob and Seizes (I think Dark Confidant will be the Mythic of the two) I think Bob will get down to at least 30 probably more like 25. I think Thoughtseize will get to 15, it'll take a lot to push that card lower than that I think.
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