The expected value of MM2015 singles (price * chance of pulling each) seems to compare reasonably well to the price of packs, especially with the usual per pack discount for buying a box.
So should I buy a box to crack it?
In my EV calculations, I'm using store price for the good singles. Is that an overestimate? I'm confident I have the pull chance right.
I know the set is hit or miss, and the amount is a high roller thing for me.
The expected value of MM2015 singles (price * chance of pulling each) seems to compare reasonably well to the price of packs, especially with the usual per pack discount for buying a box.
So should I buy a box to crack it?
In my EV calculations, I'm using store price for the good singles. Is that an overestimate? I'm confident I have the pull chance right.
I know the set is hit or miss, and the amount is a high roller thing for me.
Based on my calculations based on the value from the lower end of tcgplayer singles prices and ebay singles prices, they put the singles value of the overall average box at approx.: $198/box. But the set is very top heavy with the rares, and the mythics have dropped on quite a few of them significantly enough that there are enough so-so value mythics that a bad box can come quite easily. I personally would pass, but if you can get a box, and have some fun out of it via drafting it or otherwise with friends, then that would of course add some value to it. But just for pure singles value, its up to you, but I'm not enough of a gambler to recommend it, especially at its current price point (though boxes have gotten down to $210 now on ebay, and seem to be falling.
The expected value of MM2015 singles (price * chance of pulling each) seems to compare reasonably well to the price of packs, especially with the usual per pack discount for buying a box.
So should I buy a box to crack it?
In my EV calculations, I'm using store price for the good singles. Is that an overestimate? I'm confident I have the pull chance right.
I know the set is hit or miss, and the amount is a high roller thing for me.
If you're using the store price for singles, then it's only really a good deal if you plan on using basically any high-$ card you crack or if you have a really good trade network that will be willing to give you fair value on anything you crack. Because, selling the cards your crack or trading them in to a store, you're likely to only get 40-60% of that value. So the only way that buying packs to crack is a good value is if you would have otherwise spent that money on a random assortment of modern singles, from the store.
As Jeff pointed out, it's very likely you can find better prices on singles if you shop around (eBay/TCGPlayer), which is further going to decrease the equivalent value of buying singles versus buying packs.
My recommendation is, buy boxes to draft with your friends. Getting the value of a good draft format helps make up for some of the shortfall you'll have in the EV of the box.
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The expected value of MM2015 singles (price * chance of pulling each) seems to compare reasonably well to the price of packs, especially with the usual per pack discount for buying a box.
So should I buy a box to crack it?
In my EV calculations, I'm using store price for the good singles. Is that an overestimate? I'm confident I have the pull chance right.
I know the set is hit or miss, and the amount is a high roller thing for me.
If you're basing EV values on what a store is selling the singles for, you'd be better off just buying the singles and saving yourself the agony of pulling 20 junk rares. The only rares that are likely to stay above pack price are hierach, cryptic, fulminator, spellskite, and twin. You can buy two of each of those and still have money left over.
MM15 is, as many others have said, topheavy. If you crack the 'Goyf/Clique box, then you'll come back to this comment and say "Man, that Knick guy doesn't know jack!" However, there are a lot of junk rares in this set. Check the EV of the set without 'Goyf in the picture. The EV does not actually compare reasonably well to the price of packs, and nobody that I know is offering any sort of discount on MSRP. Buying AT MSRP is apparently the discounted price.
My boxes will not be worth $240 if I were to try to resell the contents. I *know* this. However (as I've stated in many other threads), I absolutely love drafting, so the ability to get seven of my closest friends together for a wild night of cardboard passing is what I'm in for. I'm told that this set is an amazing draft environment (I only managed to do one draft on release day), so that's what I'm after. If I get something valuable, that's a bonus.
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I was skeptical at MSRP. One store listed at $239.76, exact MSRP, heh.
I have seen some boxes for around $210, but that site also had lower prices for the singles.
I like set collecting, which would give me some use for the lower value stuff, I'd keep that and move the good singles.
Maybe I could set up a draft.
If I happen to have the money available, I might do it, but I wouldn't go out of my way to.
MM15 is, as many others have said, topheavy. If you crack the 'Goyf/Clique box, then you'll come back to this comment and say "Man, that Knick guy doesn't know jack!" However, there are a lot of junk rares in this set. Check the EV of the set without 'Goyf in the picture. The EV does not actually compare reasonably well to the price of packs, and nobody that I know is offering any sort of discount on MSRP. Buying AT MSRP is apparently the discounted price.
My boxes will not be worth $240 if I were to try to resell the contents. I *know* this. However (as I've stated in many other threads), I absolutely love drafting, so the ability to get seven of my closest friends together for a wild night of cardboard passing is what I'm in for. I'm told that this set is an amazing draft environment (I only managed to do one draft on release day), so that's what I'm after. If I get something valuable, that's a bonus.
True. I bought a box and EVERY single rare I opened in my top half was below $, with the exception of Mox Opal, All is Dust, and Creakwood Liege. So, had the trend continued, I would have been screwed. The only thing that saved me was a Goyf, which helped me total about $310ish in value. Also, I bought my box for $206 after tax, making it slightly less risky than paying full retail.
Supply and Demand. Simply put, the demand for the set now that the initial rush is over and the set itself inevitably underwhelmed for many, that, and with the singles value for the boxes dropping the overall average box values to below $200 now, has led to people not being willing to pay (online anyway at places like ebay) a price above a certain amount. With the added supply from small second orders of 1-2 cases for many shops as well, has led to a bunch of extra boxes/cases being put online, raising existing and available supply at this point up even higher than it was and thus dropping the price further and faster. A larger print run, a higher msrp, and a set that ended up being a lot less balanced (this set is much more top heavy than the last Modern Masters set, even if the other was top heavy as well, this one is just worse), and you have a recipe for boxes to drop below MSRP at least until supply drops back down. Its also a matter that shops tend not to want to sit on such expensive product as this, and for them a $50-$60 profit per box certainly isn't horrible when compared to a normal tiny profit available from a normal standard-released set vs the cost for the shops, so taking what you can get, to be able to take the quick profit and run is also an incentive for shops not to simply sit on the boxes/cases when they could be freeing up all that cash to use towards other expenses/product for the shop. Shops with high enough demand at the shop itself at MSRP are less likely to be dumping boxes/cases on ebay, but for those that are having a tougher time, that quick turnover is either necessary or worth it for them to do.
Three packs left (we did a seven-man draft, since one person dropped out at the last minute). Unless there's a solid money card in them, I'm not even going to break $100 - the solitary Remand is better than 17 of the rares. But I can't complain too much, since I did have a lot of fun.
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It's never profitable to crack packs at msrp. It's only profitable to stores who are paying around 140$ The best for a player to do is buy the needed singles and let vendors and events do the pack cracking.
It's never profitable to crack packs at msrp. It's only profitable to stores who are paying around 140$ The best for a player to do is buy the needed singles and let vendors and events do the pack cracking.
My box wasn't stellar but it wasn't bad.
Notable pulls:
Bitterblossom
Leyline of Sanctity
Coronet x2
Fulminator Mage x2
Elesh Norn
Tarmogoyf
Splinter Twin
Remand
Noble Hierarch
Foil Hurkyl's Recall
No, you got a Tarmogoyf, two more decent mythics, some money rares, and a $30 foil. I think that your box was pretty stellar. I literally don't know what else you could want out of a box except a foil mythic, and even then, half of them are less than the Recall.
Okay, update time. Here is what we are looking at now for the set looking at the lower end of tcgplayer NM prices or the lower end of ebay NM prices accordingly (Price changes reflected in () and represent the change in value over the last 1.5 months:
Mythics (worth $2 or more):
Tarmogoyf: $145 (-)
Vendilion Clique: $40 (-$5)
Dark Confidant: $37 (-$3)
Mox Opal: $30 (-$2)
Karn Liberated: $30 (-)
Bitterblossom: $22 (-$6)
Emrakul the Aeons Torn: $22 (-$3)
Kozilek Butcher of Truth: $17 (-$5)
Ulamog the Infinite Gyre: $14 (-$5)
Elesh Norn Grand Cenobite: $12 (-$5)
Iona, Shield of Emeria: $9 (-$1)
Kiki Jiki Mirror Breaker: $9 (-$1)
Primeval Titan: $8 (-$2)
Tezzeret the Seeker: $5 (-$1)
Total value of mythics: $400 (15 mythics) (-$39)
Rares (worth $2 or more):
Noble Hierarch: $30 (-$3)
Cryptic Command: $28 (-$2)
Spellskite: $18 (+$2)
Fulminator Mage: $17 (+$1)
Splinter Twin: $12 (-$2)
Leyline of Sanctity:$10 (-$1)
Daybreak Coronet: $6 (-$4)
Wilt-Leaf Liege: $4 (-$4)
Blinkmoth Nexus: $5 (-)
All is Dust: $4 (-$1)
Etched Champion: $2.50 (-.50)
Surgical Extraction:$2 (-)
Hurkyl's Recall: $2 (-)
Total value of Rares: $150 (53 rares) (-$25)
Commons (worth at least .50):
Vines of Vastwood: .50 (-)
Complete set Value:
Mythics: $400 (-$39)
Rares: $150 (-$25)
Uncommon/Common sets: $20 (-)
Total set value: $570 (-$64)
Overall average box value (with foil adjustment):
Mythics: $400/15 = $26.67/mythic x 3 mythics/box = $80 (-$8)
Rares: $150/53 = $2.83/rare x 21 rares/box = $59 (-$10)
Uncommon/Common sets: $20 x .9 = $18 (-)
Foils (adjusted lower): $20 (-$5)
Total overall average box value (with foil adjustment): $177 (-$23)
Many values have continued to drop over time as one would expect from the increased supply without a subsequent increase in demand. As a result the value of each of the main categories of rare/mythic both dropped a good bit and thusly the foils were adjusted down lower to compensate for that, as overall the foil values in the set as well aren't exactly superb save for a few on the higher end, along with simply too much bulk in the set all the way around. As a result the overall box value dropped from around $200 down all the way to $177, which doesn't bode well considering that the lower end of box prices on ebay are around $190-$195. And with the top heavy nature of the set being as it is (vast majority of the value taken up by the mythics, and even then you have goyf (with only a 1 in 5 box overall average chance...) skewing the mythics, along with a few rares skewing the value for the rares even with that value having already dropped as far as it has.) Your box value could be good if you pull a goyf, or terrible if you 3 bottom 1/2 mythics). Thusly you could get box values as low as $100 easily enough, while some could go as high as $300 if you are lucky and get a goyf plus some other reasonable stuff).
I am going to continue to stress that this is a set that you either buy a box to draft with, or you buy singles for. Buying a box to gamble that you might pull a goyf or a high end foil really is a losing proposition.
To put that into perspective, I opened 16 boxes of the set that I paid an average of about $175 for after combined shipping discounts and factoring in bonuses with ebay bucks and such, and my overall average for my boxes was only slightly above the number I gave for the average above and that was with some lucky foil pulls. I also randomly got Zero (normal or foil) Mox Opals.... Thankfully I at least got 2 regular goyfs, which out of 16 boxes is below average, but that's the gamble....
Anyhow, enjoy the update, I will likely provide another in a month or two if I'm still keeping an eye on the set.
I am going to continue to stress that this is a set that you either buy a box to draft with, or you buy singles for. Buying a box to gamble that you might pull a goyf or a high end foil really is a losing proposition.
I wish that I could like this post more than once.
I also wish that I could go back in time and un-buy my box, and just have sleeved up the singles and made packs out of them, but oh well.
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So should I buy a box to crack it?
In my EV calculations, I'm using store price for the good singles. Is that an overestimate? I'm confident I have the pull chance right.
I know the set is hit or miss, and the amount is a high roller thing for me.
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Based on my calculations based on the value from the lower end of tcgplayer singles prices and ebay singles prices, they put the singles value of the overall average box at approx.: $198/box. But the set is very top heavy with the rares, and the mythics have dropped on quite a few of them significantly enough that there are enough so-so value mythics that a bad box can come quite easily. I personally would pass, but if you can get a box, and have some fun out of it via drafting it or otherwise with friends, then that would of course add some value to it. But just for pure singles value, its up to you, but I'm not enough of a gambler to recommend it, especially at its current price point (though boxes have gotten down to $210 now on ebay, and seem to be falling.
If you're using the store price for singles, then it's only really a good deal if you plan on using basically any high-$ card you crack or if you have a really good trade network that will be willing to give you fair value on anything you crack. Because, selling the cards your crack or trading them in to a store, you're likely to only get 40-60% of that value. So the only way that buying packs to crack is a good value is if you would have otherwise spent that money on a random assortment of modern singles, from the store.
As Jeff pointed out, it's very likely you can find better prices on singles if you shop around (eBay/TCGPlayer), which is further going to decrease the equivalent value of buying singles versus buying packs.
My recommendation is, buy boxes to draft with your friends. Getting the value of a good draft format helps make up for some of the shortfall you'll have in the EV of the box.
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If you're basing EV values on what a store is selling the singles for, you'd be better off just buying the singles and saving yourself the agony of pulling 20 junk rares. The only rares that are likely to stay above pack price are hierach, cryptic, fulminator, spellskite, and twin. You can buy two of each of those and still have money left over.
Nope.
This is pretty much true for every set ever.
MM15 is, as many others have said, topheavy. If you crack the 'Goyf/Clique box, then you'll come back to this comment and say "Man, that Knick guy doesn't know jack!" However, there are a lot of junk rares in this set. Check the EV of the set without 'Goyf in the picture. The EV does not actually compare reasonably well to the price of packs, and nobody that I know is offering any sort of discount on MSRP. Buying AT MSRP is apparently the discounted price.
My boxes will not be worth $240 if I were to try to resell the contents. I *know* this. However (as I've stated in many other threads), I absolutely love drafting, so the ability to get seven of my closest friends together for a wild night of cardboard passing is what I'm in for. I'm told that this set is an amazing draft environment (I only managed to do one draft on release day), so that's what I'm after. If I get something valuable, that's a bonus.
I was skeptical at MSRP. One store listed at $239.76, exact MSRP, heh.
I have seen some boxes for around $210, but that site also had lower prices for the singles.
I like set collecting, which would give me some use for the lower value stuff, I'd keep that and move the good singles.
Maybe I could set up a draft.
If I happen to have the money available, I might do it, but I wouldn't go out of my way to.
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True. I bought a box and EVERY single rare I opened in my top half was below $, with the exception of Mox Opal, All is Dust, and Creakwood Liege. So, had the trend continued, I would have been screwed. The only thing that saved me was a Goyf, which helped me total about $310ish in value. Also, I bought my box for $206 after tax, making it slightly less risky than paying full retail.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409478
All the money here is in long term speculation. In other words betting that the cards reprinted here will not be reprinted again for a very long time.
Just ordered a box on eBay for $203.98 free shipping. Trying to set up a draft with my FB friends.
Thanks for mentioning eBay. Boxes are a lot cheaper there. Most of the regular online stores have them for around MSRP.
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Supply and Demand. Simply put, the demand for the set now that the initial rush is over and the set itself inevitably underwhelmed for many, that, and with the singles value for the boxes dropping the overall average box values to below $200 now, has led to people not being willing to pay (online anyway at places like ebay) a price above a certain amount. With the added supply from small second orders of 1-2 cases for many shops as well, has led to a bunch of extra boxes/cases being put online, raising existing and available supply at this point up even higher than it was and thus dropping the price further and faster. A larger print run, a higher msrp, and a set that ended up being a lot less balanced (this set is much more top heavy than the last Modern Masters set, even if the other was top heavy as well, this one is just worse), and you have a recipe for boxes to drop below MSRP at least until supply drops back down. Its also a matter that shops tend not to want to sit on such expensive product as this, and for them a $50-$60 profit per box certainly isn't horrible when compared to a normal tiny profit available from a normal standard-released set vs the cost for the shops, so taking what you can get, to be able to take the quick profit and run is also an incentive for shops not to simply sit on the boxes/cases when they could be freeing up all that cash to use towards other expenses/product for the shop. Shops with high enough demand at the shop itself at MSRP are less likely to be dumping boxes/cases on ebay, but for those that are having a tougher time, that quick turnover is either necessary or worth it for them to do.
Well said! It's all about cash flow huh?
I myself bought a few boxes to draft with my friends!
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No foils of note - the foil rare was a Midnight Banshee.
Three packs left (we did a seven-man draft, since one person dropped out at the last minute). Unless there's a solid money card in them, I'm not even going to break $100 - the solitary Remand is better than 17 of the rares. But I can't complain too much, since I did have a lot of fun.
I've set up a draft for next weekend with 3 friends, could run 2 drafts.
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Cracked the last 3 packs last night, because there's not much you can do with 3 packs, and I needed a pick-me-up. I didn't get it.
So yeah - I got a two-mythic box, and one of them was Comet Storm.
Edit - Just fed the list into the SCG deck generator, and it comes out a few bucks shy of $100.
Foils
Fulminator Mage
All is Dust
Comet Storm
Nonfoils
Bitterblossom, Kiki-Jiki, Kozilek, Mox Opal
Daybreak Coronet, Splinter Twin
Remand
I also got 1 each regular and foil Dismember for my Terese Nielsen deck. I'd be willing to sell/trade any of my other pulls.
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Notable pulls:
Bitterblossom
Leyline of Sanctity
Coronet x2
Fulminator Mage x2
Elesh Norn
Tarmogoyf
Splinter Twin
Remand
Noble Hierach
Foil Huyrkal's Recall
No, you got a Tarmogoyf, two more decent mythics, some money rares, and a $30 foil. I think that your box was pretty stellar. I literally don't know what else you could want out of a box except a foil mythic, and even then, half of them are less than the Recall.
Mythics (worth $2 or more):
Tarmogoyf: $145 (-)
Vendilion Clique: $40 (-$5)
Dark Confidant: $37 (-$3)
Mox Opal: $30 (-$2)
Karn Liberated: $30 (-)
Bitterblossom: $22 (-$6)
Emrakul the Aeons Torn: $22 (-$3)
Kozilek Butcher of Truth: $17 (-$5)
Ulamog the Infinite Gyre: $14 (-$5)
Elesh Norn Grand Cenobite: $12 (-$5)
Iona, Shield of Emeria: $9 (-$1)
Kiki Jiki Mirror Breaker: $9 (-$1)
Primeval Titan: $8 (-$2)
Tezzeret the Seeker: $5 (-$1)
Total value of mythics: $400 (15 mythics) (-$39)
Rares (worth $2 or more):
Noble Hierarch: $30 (-$3)
Cryptic Command: $28 (-$2)
Spellskite: $18 (+$2)
Fulminator Mage: $17 (+$1)
Splinter Twin: $12 (-$2)
Leyline of Sanctity:$10 (-$1)
Daybreak Coronet: $6 (-$4)
Wilt-Leaf Liege: $4 (-$4)
Blinkmoth Nexus: $5 (-)
All is Dust: $4 (-$1)
Etched Champion: $2.50 (-.50)
Surgical Extraction:$2 (-)
Hurkyl's Recall: $2 (-)
Total value of Rares: $150 (53 rares) (-$25)
Uncommons (worth $1 or more):
Remand: $5 (-.50)
Lightning Bolt: $2 (+.50)
Expedition Map: $1.25 (+.50)
Electrolyze: $1.25 (-)
Eldrazi Temple: $1 (-)
Cranial Plating: $1 (-)
Commons (worth at least .50):
Vines of Vastwood: .50 (-)
Complete set Value:
Mythics: $400 (-$39)
Rares: $150 (-$25)
Uncommon/Common sets: $20 (-)
Total set value: $570 (-$64)
Overall average box value (with foil adjustment):
Mythics: $400/15 = $26.67/mythic x 3 mythics/box = $80 (-$8)
Rares: $150/53 = $2.83/rare x 21 rares/box = $59 (-$10)
Uncommon/Common sets: $20 x .9 = $18 (-)
Foils (adjusted lower): $20 (-$5)
Total overall average box value (with foil adjustment): $177 (-$23)
Many values have continued to drop over time as one would expect from the increased supply without a subsequent increase in demand. As a result the value of each of the main categories of rare/mythic both dropped a good bit and thusly the foils were adjusted down lower to compensate for that, as overall the foil values in the set as well aren't exactly superb save for a few on the higher end, along with simply too much bulk in the set all the way around. As a result the overall box value dropped from around $200 down all the way to $177, which doesn't bode well considering that the lower end of box prices on ebay are around $190-$195. And with the top heavy nature of the set being as it is (vast majority of the value taken up by the mythics, and even then you have goyf (with only a 1 in 5 box overall average chance...) skewing the mythics, along with a few rares skewing the value for the rares even with that value having already dropped as far as it has.) Your box value could be good if you pull a goyf, or terrible if you 3 bottom 1/2 mythics). Thusly you could get box values as low as $100 easily enough, while some could go as high as $300 if you are lucky and get a goyf plus some other reasonable stuff).
I am going to continue to stress that this is a set that you either buy a box to draft with, or you buy singles for. Buying a box to gamble that you might pull a goyf or a high end foil really is a losing proposition.
To put that into perspective, I opened 16 boxes of the set that I paid an average of about $175 for after combined shipping discounts and factoring in bonuses with ebay bucks and such, and my overall average for my boxes was only slightly above the number I gave for the average above and that was with some lucky foil pulls. I also randomly got Zero (normal or foil) Mox Opals.... Thankfully I at least got 2 regular goyfs, which out of 16 boxes is below average, but that's the gamble....
Anyhow, enjoy the update, I will likely provide another in a month or two if I'm still keeping an eye on the set.
I wish that I could like this post more than once.
I also wish that I could go back in time and un-buy my box, and just have sleeved up the singles and made packs out of them, but oh well.