2011: Best Mafia Performance (Individual) - Best Newcomer
2012: Best (False?) Role Claim - Worst Town Performance (Group) - Best Mafia Performance (Group) - Best SK Performance - Best Overall Player
2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
In other news, I haven't been sent any cards in about a month, month and a half. Are things slow for everyone else, lately? I'd like to cash out ASAP.
I haven't sent or received a card in almost 2 months. I have about 1100 points on my account and some number of wants valued less than that, so I do keep checking every few days to see if someone sends but I fully expect to never get another card through Puca.
I just don't have anything left that's worth sending, I've Puca'd it all away. From now on for me, the site is basically just for trading my prerelease pool for whatever standard foils I need for my cube. Which for that purpose, the site still seems great. It's just the older stuff that is hard to get a hold of, I'm guessing since Pucatrade has already moved those cards into the hands of people who want them for keeps.
People are finding it slow?
My past week was the following...
Out -> Intro pack foil Pia and Kiran Nalaar (because I keep finding those things on special at big box stores), 1500pp of jank across about 45 cards (with the highest being about 75pp).
In -> Tireless Tracker, Thing in the Ice, KTK Windswept Heath.
So, no, not slow here. Maybe I'm just fortunate or something. I'm not afraid of sending to the UK from down here - I've mostly got older, smaller stuff, but UK guys can hit me up on Puca and I'll see if I'm able to put a package together at the very least (I've got the same username on there too).
I've got my point total up to over 7000 (with over 3000 more pending) and a wantlist that includes plenty of current oft-moved stuff (Grim Flayer moves 14 times a day and I want 3, Lupine Prototype also moves 14 times a day and I want 4), some newer rares/mythics like Eldrazi Displacer and Void Winnower, some older stuff like Hunted Horror and Krenko, Mob Boss and Phyrexian Dreadnought; and a bunch of bulk-calibre rares and uncommons people could use to fluff up an order to offset postage). And I can't get a nibble. I really don't think nonbounty-offerers can compete with bounty offerers. If 'only' 14 Flayers and 14 Prototypes move every day, and there's always at least 14 people-who-pay-bounties who have them on their wantlist, nonbounty people get starved out. Everyone who has these cards to move trade them invariably to the people offering bounties.
I recently let my silver membership expire and got rid of my bounty offer. I decided to build standard uw spirits and have about half the deck coming to me right now.
The last time I got a card was when I agreed to get italian language.
Luckily that card was worth all but $1 of my points so I don't have to care about this thing existing any more, it really went down in the past months specially for non US users.
Last September I decided to foil out my Kruphix EDH deck. On 9/9/15, I added 47 foil cards to my want list, with a point range of 37 points to 6666 points, and offered bounties on about about 2 dozen of the cards, so roughly about half of the list, ranging from 3% to 12%, with most bounties being in the 7-8% range. The other half of the list I offered no bounties. The cards could be considered a healthy mix, some staples, some not staples, a few obscure cards, some well known, and a few judge foils. Most of the cards were in the 1500-3000 point range.
On the day that I posted those 47 cards, within one day, 15 trades were initiated. The next day 3 more were initiated, the third day brought 5 more. Within the first 7 days, trades were made to send me 30 of the 47 cards I wanted.
A few weeks ago, on July 24th of 2016, I decided to foil out another deck, Sigarda. Having less points available (about 9000, compared to the 60000 I had banked when I foiled Kruphix), I posted just 18 cards that I needed, ones that I have enough points for. Basically the same mix of stuff, some of the lands are even the same. All the cards except a pair of sub-100 pointers are between 700 and 4000 points. Unlike last time where I offered varying bounties, and only for half the cards, this time I decided to offer a flat 7% for all. My list has been up for eleven days, and whereas last time I had 64% of my list within a week, I have now received 2 of the 18 cards, or just 11% over a longer period of time.
8/8/16 EDIT: It's now been 15 days, and still only 2 of 18 cards have been received (11%). When I foiled Kruphix last Fall, after 15 days I had 36 of 47 cards (77%). I've even bumped my bounty up to 8%.
I'm planning to burn through my points on conspiracy 2 stuff, then drop my silver membership in sept ~ oct. Things are just too slow and unreliable. I still get a nice foil from it, now and again, but compared to 2013-2015, the slowness + opportunity costs of waiting for trades have tipped the scales back in favor of buying and buylisting.
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Chickens are coming to roost. This screamed unsustainable from the start, or something that would benefit early adopters and leave later adopters holding the bag.
Just received a Noble Hierarch the other day. I'm still sold for now, even if I have to wait a few weeks to get some thing I want. I'm sitting on $2,000 in wants, so there's plenty of things for people to send as long as I have points.
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
Expect a major uptick in a couple weeks when MTGO trading goes live. I have about the right amount of points for pauper stompy, so I turned on vacation mode to hold them so I can pick up the entire list at once. I was in a dry spell when I hit the button, but it's not the first I've experienced since joining about two years ago. A lot of Chicken Littles ITT.
Am I right in thinking that the new MTGO functionality will essentially let you cash your PucaPoints out for MTGO tix, too?
Seems like a fairly easy way to cash out of the system...
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
Are you serious? You know it isnt removing as many points as are still being generated by new member signups and referral bonuses, plus the fact that it is paying out on claims meaning it isnt really sucking those points out of the system at all, merely rearranging most of them. Pucasheild isnt fixing this...
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
Are you serious? You know it isnt removing as many points as are still being generated by new member signups and referral bonuses, plus the fact that it is paying out on claims meaning it isnt really sucking those points out of the system at all, merely rearranging most of them. Pucasheild isnt fixing this...
Is the point inflation truly due to new user signups? I always thought that the number of points in the system was pretty balanced by the number of points on "dry" non trading accounts? Is there just a glut of points in the system because of people wanting to trade up IE people know their crap isn't really worth TCG Mid or whatever they are using now?
Personally as long as they make tix an option I think it will dry up the points pretty quick. Guys like me who trade chaff away ($1-3 rares) can now skip the middle man and just get tix for more redemptions. We'll see if people are willing to 100pp for 1 tix or if the value is much higher/lower. Puca may set that rate or make tix not an option which doesn't solve the inflation problem.
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If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
Are you serious? You know it isnt removing as many points as are still being generated by new member signups and referral bonuses, plus the fact that it is paying out on claims meaning it isnt really sucking those points out of the system at all, merely rearranging most of them. Pucasheild isnt fixing this...
Do you have numbers backing that up? Because that's pretty much the opposite of what they've been saying on Puca...
PucaShield is in Effect
As of Monday morning, approximately a week after PucaShield was put into effect, 199,203 PucaPoints had been paid into PucaShield. This means that points are leaving the system and should lead to a decrease in the waiting time between placing a card on your wants list and receiving it.
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
Are you serious? You know it isnt removing as many points as are still being generated by new member signups and referral bonuses, plus the fact that it is paying out on claims meaning it isnt really sucking those points out of the system at all, merely rearranging most of them. Pucasheild isnt fixing this...
You have zero proof or evidence to back up any of these claims. All your assertions are baseless. You have no:
-- verifiable numbers as to the amount of new accounts opened;
-- knowledge of what level of account was opened (which determines the amount of bonus sign-up points distributed);
-- what percentage of new accounts are a result of referrals vs non-referrals, (which also determines the number of points added to the system);
-- the number of claims that were paid out;
-- the number of lost cards points DIDN'T need to be paid out because the sender opted not to utilize Puca Shield.
What is known is that Puca Shield was on target to remove over 910,000 points in its first month, and that even if they are paying claims to some degree, Puca were doing that BEFORE Puca Shield was implemented in most instances anyway. In other words, you're talking out of your you know where, about things you have no idea about. Puca has a problem on their hands, but are taking steps to correct it, but the holes in your claims are big enough for a Leviathan to stroll through.
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
Are you serious? You know it isnt removing as many points as are still being generated by new member signups and referral bonuses, plus the fact that it is paying out on claims meaning it isnt really sucking those points out of the system at all, merely rearranging most of them. Pucasheild isnt fixing this...
Do you have numbers backing that up? Because that's pretty much the opposite of what they've been saying on Puca...
PucaShield is in Effect
As of Monday morning, approximately a week after PucaShield was put into effect, 199,203 PucaPoints had been paid into PucaShield. This means that points are leaving the system and should lead to a decrease in the waiting time between placing a card on your wants list and receiving it.
Which is both less than they expected and doesnt take into account what they have to pay out, those points were taken to insure something they now have to pay on that insurance...
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
Are you serious? You know it isnt removing as many points as are still being generated by new member signups and referral bonuses, plus the fact that it is paying out on claims meaning it isnt really sucking those points out of the system at all, merely rearranging most of them. Pucasheild isnt fixing this...
You have zero proof or evidence to back up any of these claims. All your assertions are baseless. You have no:
-- verifiable numbers as to the amount of new accounts opened;
-- knowledge of what level of account was opened (which determines the amount of bonus sign-up points distributed);
-- what percentage of new accounts are a result of referrals vs non-referrals, (which also determines the number of points added to the system);
-- the number of claims that were paid out;
-- the number of lost cards points DIDN'T need to be paid out because the sender opted not to utilize Puca Shield.
What is known is that Puca Shield was on target to remove over 910,000 points in its first month, and that even if they are paying claims to some degree, Puca were doing that BEFORE Puca Shield was implemented in most instances anyway. In other words, you're talking out of your you know where, about things you have no idea about. Puca has a problem on their hands, but are taking steps to correct it, but the holes in your claims are big enough for a Leviathan to stroll through.
On reddit someone has put together evidence that seems much more believable than what the puca admins are claiming
As far as signup bonuses outstripping what pucasheild is taking out thats obvious based on user id numbers (also discussed in the above). Im clearly not the one talking out my ass here, they put a bandaid on a gushing wound to give the impression they are doing something to try and change perception, this will not fix the underlying problem which will continue to get worse until the site folds. The reality is the site was doomed to fail from the get go based on the fact it is set up to function more or less like a ponzi scheme, defend it all you want but thats what it is, go look up 99gamers for a good example of how this really ends.
Hey all. I just wanted to remind everyone that the spoilers for Conspiracy 2 have been popping up and we have several reprints already including: Phyrexian Arena, Hallowed Burial, Desertion, Inquisition of Kozilek, and Burning Wish. I don't know if there is still the lag time on price adjustments for reprints like there used to be on there (with people hurrying to offload reprinted cards at the old price before it adjusts), but figured I should let all of you know so you can all keep an eye on your lists as well as the spoilers as they come out so you don't end up spending out more points on some cards than you need to.
... I'd still consider it very incomplete... No, I'm not 100% sure on these figures...
Again, where are the cold, hard stats? If you're going to ride someone else's opinion (even if it is one backed up with a level of research), why bother to come in here with it? If you don't believe in Puca's usefulness, don't use the site. As far as I'm concerned, so long as Puca continues to allow me to be generous with the cards I'm not using and get something of a level of value back in response, it's working just fine.
Honestly, I think half the problem is that some of the more Spike-y people come onto Puca expecting it to be the Holy Grail of MtG finance. It's not. But if you come onto Puca expecting it to be the world's biggest traders' hall full of awesome people, and you come on with an expectation of being generous without expecting too much in response, Puca will always deliver for you. As soon as you get some sense of entitlement on there (e.g. "why is no-one sending me any fetches? This site sucks"), you're down the slippery slope.
Otherwise, not really.
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In other news, I haven't been sent any cards in about a month, month and a half. Are things slow for everyone else, lately? I'd like to cash out ASAP.
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2013: Best Non-SK Neutral Performance
2014: Best Town Performance (Individual) - Best Town Performance (Group) - Most Interesting Role - Best Game - Best Overall Player
2015: Worst Mafia Performance (Group) - Best Read
2016: Best Town Performance (Group) - Best Town Player - Best Overall Player
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R Norin the Wary: I've Got a Bad Feeling About This
UG Thrasios & Kydele: Knowledge is Power
RG Borborygmos Enraged: The Breaking of the World
BG The Gitrog Monster: All Glory to the Hypnotoad
WUR Zedruu the Greathearted: Endless Possibilities, One Outcome
WBG Karador, Ghost Chieftain: What's Dead May Never Die
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My past week was the following...
Out -> Intro pack foil Pia and Kiran Nalaar (because I keep finding those things on special at big box stores), 1500pp of jank across about 45 cards (with the highest being about 75pp).
In -> Tireless Tracker, Thing in the Ice, KTK Windswept Heath.
So, no, not slow here. Maybe I'm just fortunate or something. I'm not afraid of sending to the UK from down here - I've mostly got older, smaller stuff, but UK guys can hit me up on Puca and I'll see if I'm able to put a package together at the very least (I've got the same username on there too).
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http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=11439737#post11439737
Reality is only what man allows it to be. Few shape it so that many may accept it.
Luckily that card was worth all but $1 of my points so I don't have to care about this thing existing any more, it really went down in the past months specially for non US users.
On the day that I posted those 47 cards, within one day, 15 trades were initiated. The next day 3 more were initiated, the third day brought 5 more. Within the first 7 days, trades were made to send me 30 of the 47 cards I wanted.
A few weeks ago, on July 24th of 2016, I decided to foil out another deck, Sigarda. Having less points available (about 9000, compared to the 60000 I had banked when I foiled Kruphix), I posted just 18 cards that I needed, ones that I have enough points for. Basically the same mix of stuff, some of the lands are even the same. All the cards except a pair of sub-100 pointers are between 700 and 4000 points. Unlike last time where I offered varying bounties, and only for half the cards, this time I decided to offer a flat 7% for all. My list has been up for eleven days, and whereas last time I had 64% of my list within a week, I have now received 2 of the 18 cards, or just 11% over a longer period of time.
8/8/16 EDIT: It's now been 15 days, and still only 2 of 18 cards have been received (11%). When I foiled Kruphix last Fall, after 15 days I had 36 of 47 cards (77%). I've even bumped my bounty up to 8%.
If puca can figure out a way to effectively deal with the inflation concerns, and vintage/legacy/modern stuff starts moving again, I'd definitely re-participate in force.
"Personally I love high-riak, low-reqars gambles. Life's best with a decent amount of riak. And f*** reqars."
Well, I'd suspect that's what's happening now. They introduced PucaShield as a way of dealing with points inflation, and they've got evidence that it's already deflating the points market.
At some point, that's (hopefully!) going to leave us with less people on a stack of points, and force people to grind more to get their points totals up (which means less people with the points to receive expensive staples, and more people willing to throw them around).
Of course, that's the theory (and theory is a wonderful thing)!
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Seems like a fairly easy way to cash out of the system...
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Are you serious? You know it isnt removing as many points as are still being generated by new member signups and referral bonuses, plus the fact that it is paying out on claims meaning it isnt really sucking those points out of the system at all, merely rearranging most of them. Pucasheild isnt fixing this...
Is the point inflation truly due to new user signups? I always thought that the number of points in the system was pretty balanced by the number of points on "dry" non trading accounts? Is there just a glut of points in the system because of people wanting to trade up IE people know their crap isn't really worth TCG Mid or whatever they are using now?
Personally as long as they make tix an option I think it will dry up the points pretty quick. Guys like me who trade chaff away ($1-3 rares) can now skip the middle man and just get tix for more redemptions. We'll see if people are willing to 100pp for 1 tix or if the value is much higher/lower. Puca may set that rate or make tix not an option which doesn't solve the inflation problem.
Do you have numbers backing that up? Because that's pretty much the opposite of what they've been saying on Puca...
From here on July 19th (eight days after PucaShield went live)...
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You have zero proof or evidence to back up any of these claims. All your assertions are baseless. You have no:
-- verifiable numbers as to the amount of new accounts opened;
-- knowledge of what level of account was opened (which determines the amount of bonus sign-up points distributed);
-- what percentage of new accounts are a result of referrals vs non-referrals, (which also determines the number of points added to the system);
-- the number of claims that were paid out;
-- the number of lost cards points DIDN'T need to be paid out because the sender opted not to utilize Puca Shield.
What is known is that Puca Shield was on target to remove over 910,000 points in its first month, and that even if they are paying claims to some degree, Puca were doing that BEFORE Puca Shield was implemented in most instances anyway. In other words, you're talking out of your you know where, about things you have no idea about. Puca has a problem on their hands, but are taking steps to correct it, but the holes in your claims are big enough for a Leviathan to stroll through.
EDIT: today Puca announced 1,000,000 points were removed in the first month. https://pucatrade.com/blog/2016/allthegoodnews081616
Which is both less than they expected and doesnt take into account what they have to pay out, those points were taken to insure something they now have to pay on that insurance...
On reddit someone has put together evidence that seems much more believable than what the puca admins are claiming
see
here https://www.reddit.com/r/PucaTrade/comments/4wl615/pucatrade_economic_commentary_august_2016_edition/
and here https://www.reddit.com/r/PucaTrade/comments/4vtibi/pucatrade_unofficial_economic_indicators_august/
As far as signup bonuses outstripping what pucasheild is taking out thats obvious based on user id numbers (also discussed in the above). Im clearly not the one talking out my ass here, they put a bandaid on a gushing wound to give the impression they are doing something to try and change perception, this will not fix the underlying problem which will continue to get worse until the site folds. The reality is the site was doomed to fail from the get go based on the fact it is set up to function more or less like a ponzi scheme, defend it all you want but thats what it is, go look up 99gamers for a good example of how this really ends.
From the first link:
Again, where are the cold, hard stats? If you're going to ride someone else's opinion (even if it is one backed up with a level of research), why bother to come in here with it? If you don't believe in Puca's usefulness, don't use the site. As far as I'm concerned, so long as Puca continues to allow me to be generous with the cards I'm not using and get something of a level of value back in response, it's working just fine.
Honestly, I think half the problem is that some of the more Spike-y people come onto Puca expecting it to be the Holy Grail of MtG finance. It's not. But if you come onto Puca expecting it to be the world's biggest traders' hall full of awesome people, and you come on with an expectation of being generous without expecting too much in response, Puca will always deliver for you. As soon as you get some sense of entitlement on there (e.g. "why is no-one sending me any fetches? This site sucks"), you're down the slippery slope.
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