After the initial excitement of receiving a few 100 point cards, I've yet to receive anything for the past almost two weeks solid, and have yet to receive anything of value for the entire month and a half I've been on the site. My list has various stuff on it (not just fetches and shocks) but so far it feels like no one is sending anything good out.
Sitting on almost 5k worth of points, out all the stamps/cards I've used to accumulate these points, and to be honest I'd warn anyone not looking for bulk rares to stay away.
Received a NM-/SP+ Revised Tundra last week. I'm going to keep grinding those points until the bottom falls out, I guess. To each his own.
After the initial excitement of receiving a few 100 point cards, I've yet to receive anything for the past almost two weeks solid, and have yet to receive anything of value for the entire month and a half I've been on the site. My list has various stuff on it (not just fetches and shocks) but so far it feels like no one is sending anything good out.
Sitting on almost 5k worth of points, out all the stamps/cards I've used to accumulate these points, and to be honest I'd warn anyone not looking for bulk rares to stay away.
Received a NM-/SP+ Revised Tundra last week. I'm going to keep grinding those points until the bottom falls out, I guess. To each his own.
I'm really happy for you. I ended up being taken care of by someone on this forum who was kind enough to fill my wants. If it wasn't for that I'd prob still be waiting right now. Regardless, the goal is to keep giving back to the community so I've recently sent out 4 more envelopes with 4+ cards each.
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Apparently it was my turn to experience PucaTrade douchebaggery again (though, to be fair, it's been a while).
Dude commits to send Karlov and six full-art Wastes.
Dude leaves it marked unshipped in Puca.
I wait... and wait... and wait... and drop him a line after 12 days, politely asking if he forgot to ship / mark as shipped or something.
Silence.
I wait the full fortnight, open a case, and put in the case notes "For goodness sake, if you're sick, or something happened, or you just screwed up, communicate with me and it's all good".
Dude doesn't reply, just marks it all shipped after a 15-day wait and a case opening.
So it looks like it's all coming, but man... I'm in two minds as to whether I alert the mods or not. I'm definitely leaving the case open until it turns up.
Update - this trade has officially gone bananas, so I'm recording it in here for posterity (and for everyone else's amusement... I'm sure I'll look back on it and laugh too, given enough time).
So I opened a case on Feb 10th, and the guy marked it shipped straight up.
I waited. Still no cards, still no communication.
I got to Feb 19th, by which time I'd sent a package to another Pucatrader in the same city and had it arrive in two days flat. Still nothing, so I alerted the admins.
It's a Friday, so the admins get to it on Feb 22nd, and give the whole "has this been sent, you've got two days to reply or we'll can the trade" thing.
We get to today, Feb 24th, which is D-Day. Still no communication. The mods are within hours of cancelling the trade... ...and the package turns up!
It's postmarked Feb 18th, so the guy hit Shipped and sat on it for eight days.
So I've dropped the admins a little note asking whether I should mark the trade as complete or not, given the circumstances. It's going to be fascinating to see their reply.
It's postmarked Feb 18th, so the guy hit Shipped and sat on it for eight days.
This is seriously one of the things that drives me the absolute craziest about Puca. I get that there's really no better way to enforce the shipping rule in the absence of a tracking number, but the fact that some people will click "shipped" and then sit on a package is totally absurd. On top of that, what's even crappier is when folks will mark something as shipped just to get the admins off their back in a case. It's such a tremendously inefficient process.
However, to put your mind at rest, it's more than likely that the mods gave him the points for the send. It's part of Puca's guarantee.
That is one of the superb features of Puca's points system. There's a dispute? "Print" up some "money" and make sure everyone is whole. Only costs them time. eBay can't even do that for (basically) free.
Actually it's not,along with points rewarded fir premium account sign ups it leads to massive inflation and destabilization of the whole system.
You send something (or say you do) I don't recieve it we contact an admin, we stick by our stories. With no way to determine the truth he awards us both points. Now there is more value in the system then their should be.
Done enuf and there will be so much of the artificial value it will lead to people offering higher and higher bounties due to the surplus supply of points, this causes prices to go up and the intrinsic value of points to decline. Eventually the points will have so little value the will essentially be worthless. Ever heard the story of people needing wheelbarrows of money just to buy a loaf of bread in Germany after WWI? Given enuf time that is what will happen. This is the reason that points that were originally in line with US currency on a 100 pt to 1 dollar ratio are now closer to 60-70 pts to 1 dollar.
It's postmarked Feb 18th, so the guy hit Shipped and sat on it for eight days.
This is seriously one of the things that drives me the absolute craziest about Puca. I get that there's really no better way to enforce the shipping rule in the absence of a tracking number, but the fact that some people will click "shipped" and then sit on a package is totally absurd. On top of that, what's even crappier is when folks will mark something as shipped just to get the admins off their back in a case. It's such a tremendously inefficient process.
It's not just Puca, though. I get people doing this to me on eBay too. I ding them on star value, but there's really nothing that anyone can do about it.
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However, to put your mind at rest, it's more than likely that the mods gave him the points for the send. It's part of Puca's guarantee.
That is one of the superb features of Puca's points system. There's a dispute? "Print" up some "money" and make sure everyone is whole. Only costs them time. eBay can't even do that for (basically) free.
Actually it's not,along with points rewarded fir premium account sign ups it leads to massive inflation and destabilization of the whole system.
You send something (or say you do) I don't recieve it we contact an admin, we stick by our stories. With no way to determine the truth he awards us both points. Now there is more value in the system then their should be.
Done enuf and there will be so much of the artificial value it will lead to people offering higher and higher bounties due to the surplus supply of points, this causes prices to go up and the intrinsic value of points to decline. Eventually the points will have so little value the will essentially be worthless. Ever heard the story of people needing wheelbarrows of money just to buy a loaf of bread in Germany after WWI? Given enuf time that is what will happen. This is the reason that points that were originally in line with US currency on a 100 pt to 1 dollar ratio are now closer to 60-70 pts to 1 dollar.
I understand that. I even voiced concerns over inflation very recently in this thread. I was speaking from the perspective of PucaTrade -- it doesn't cost them cash to refund points -- just time.
This is the reason that points that were originally in line with US currency on a 100 pt to 1 dollar ratio are now closer to 60-70 pts to 1 dollar.
I think you're overlooking the more obvious reason that points are worth less than 100 per dollar, it's simpler than inflation: it's an issue with assigned value.
Puca used mid prices to determine point values, which means keeping points at 100 per dollar relies on people being okay with purchasing for mid prices. Why would you do that? I decipher the 60-70 point value per dollar as a cash adjustment, making it so if I bought points to obtain a card it would be the equivalent of paying cash on TCG low.
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Had no real issues with Puca until recently. I got my first real case - a guy commits to trade - says its his first trade, asks about shipping an Ugin. I sent him to the shipping guidelines and make sure he definitely wants bubble mailer and tracking. He never actually marks anything sent and goes for two weeks, non responsive to any messages. Admins finally cancel the trade after the case is opened for a few days with no replies.
Also got a Sorin I sent recently to a guy, he marks it received the same day I mark shipped. Very weird - I guess he trusts it will be received? Or just a misclick.
It's postmarked Feb 18th, so the guy hit Shipped and sat on it for eight days.
This is seriously one of the things that drives me the absolute craziest about Puca. I get that there's really no better way to enforce the shipping rule in the absence of a tracking number, but the fact that some people will click "shipped" and then sit on a package is totally absurd. On top of that, what's even crappier is when folks will mark something as shipped just to get the admins off their back in a case. It's such a tremendously inefficient process.
Agreed there. Thankfully, it doesn't happen too often - this guy is the first one to do it to me in close to a year's PucaTrading.
For the record, Kush stepped in and marked the trade as complete (given the cards arrived), but essentially added a "don't you dare let us catch you doing this again" to the end of his message.
I suspect the dude was a younger trader who thought he had a Karlov, didn't and panicked... and then just didn't bother communicating.
PROTIP: Communication, even when you've screwed something up, will get you out of a lot of pickles. I'd have put up with this behaviour a lot longer if the guy had just talked to me instead of behaving like a douche.
3 weeks ago, I was too received a 7th ed Worship. After a week, the card was still not shipped. I messaged a few times before opening a case a few days ago.
I recently checked the price to see it jumped. I guess the trader is ignoring me and not going to send? What is the potential outcome....did I get screwed over?
3 weeks ago, I was too received a 7th ed Worship. After a week, the card was still not shipped. I messaged a few times before opening a case a few days ago.
I recently checked the price to see it jumped. I guess the trader is ignoring me and not going to send? What is the potential outcome....did I get screwed over?
This rule from the pucatrade site may help you:
"2.Deciding not to send a card due to a change in value is not permitted. Requesting cancellations for trades that have increased in value may cause your account to be debited PucaPoints equivalent to the current value of the card (instead of the value at the moment of trade-initiation) at the discretion of the site administrators. "
You'll just have to wait and see what happens, hopefully you get compensated accordingly with either the card, or the difference in pucapoints to make up for the change in value so you can attempt to get the card elsewhere at the current price.
Just want to make sure I am NOT twisting things in my head, BUT:
Does having a Gold membership make you look more appealing to others when requesting cards? Let's say 21 individuals all want a Lion's Eye Diamond, and they are all Silver or free membership, while I am the only Gold membership.
Considering the various factors, will a Gold member have a stronger likelihood of getting the LED sent to them over others w/o the Gold membership?
I know other factors factor in, such as can they chain together other cards to make it a larger trade, and (maybe) how long said card is on the wants list (I treat it as a factor when deciding who to send - but I also send to Gold members first because they are paying more to be there, I feel they deserve the preferential treatment (and no, I am not a PT Elitist).
Does having a Gold membership make you look more appealing to others when requesting cards? Let's say 21 individuals all want a Lion's Eye Diamond, and they are all Silver or free membership, while I am the only Gold membership.
Considering the various factors, will a Gold member have a stronger likelihood of getting the LED sent to them over others w/o the Gold membership?
I wouldn't say I'm biased between Gold and Silver, but I'm definitely biased between Gold/Silver versus Common. I didn't used to be when I started with Puca a year ago, but when I have issues with sending or receiving, it's proportionally the common members that I'm having trouble with. I think you've got the nail on the head that those that pay for the service are more likely to take their trades serious and not mess around.
So to answer your question - if I've got the choice between Gold/Silver and Common members to send a card to - controlling for all other factors - I'll always preferentially send to a Gold/Silver.
Does having a Gold membership make you look more appealing to others when requesting cards? Let's say 21 individuals all want a Lion's Eye Diamond, and they are all Silver or free membership, while I am the only Gold membership.
Considering the various factors, will a Gold member have a stronger likelihood of getting the LED sent to them over others w/o the Gold membership?
I wouldn't say I'm biased between Gold and Silver, but I'm definitely biased between Gold/Silver versus Common. I didn't used to be when I started with Puca a year ago, but when I have issues with sending or receiving, it's proportionally the common members that I'm having trouble with. I think you've got the nail on the head that those that pay for the service are more likely to take their trades serious and not mess around.
So to answer your question - if I've got the choice between Gold/Silver and Common members to send a card to - controlling for all other factors - I'll always preferentially send to a Gold/Silver.
Something else to consider is that Silver/Gold members are able to sort out disputes in condition or pay off bounties by sending points directly between members. I've sent a card I thought was NM before and caught flak from the receiving party. The card was cheap enough I didn't want to bother arguing, so I sent him 20% as if it were SP. With a common member, you're looking at dealing with a return process or having to involve the admins to send points (if this is even something they do anymore).
Does having a Gold membership make you look more appealing to others when requesting cards? Let's say 21 individuals all want a Lion's Eye Diamond, and they are all Silver or free membership, while I am the only Gold membership.
Considering the various factors, will a Gold member have a stronger likelihood of getting the LED sent to them over others w/o the Gold membership?
I wouldn't say I'm biased between Gold and Silver, but I'm definitely biased between Gold/Silver versus Common. I didn't used to be when I started with Puca a year ago, but when I have issues with sending or receiving, it's proportionally the common members that I'm having trouble with. I think you've got the nail on the head that those that pay for the service are more likely to take their trades serious and not mess around.
So to answer your question - if I've got the choice between Gold/Silver and Common members to send a card to - controlling for all other factors - I'll always preferentially send to a Gold/Silver.
This is exactly how I work. I'm Silver myself, and draw no distinction between othe Silver/Gold members, but draw a huge distinction between paying/non-paying members.
That's interesting to hear, because I currently have cases open against three individuals for not crediting me points yet (or even responding to any of my messages), and two of the three are Silver members. I've also had to inquire with two others about crediting points, to which they both replied that they simply forgot, and they were both Silver members as well. I've found that the Common members were great communicators and quick to credit points.
Last time I used PucaTrade, I couldn't get NM cards to save my life, and ended up taking an 18-month hiatus from it. This time, the cards I've received have been great, but I can't get paying members to credit points.
-Took me over 6 months to get 5 cards ($30 or more) for my G/R tron deck.
-Use fake points instead of real money? Took me awhile to not be lazy and find better sites out there while getting cash and saving money.
-Puca was $10 or more than star city games for Karn and Emrakul at the time I wanted.
-Puca supports bots being used, which makes getting cards a lot harder. I tried to get a play set of khans fetch lands and looked at the other people wanting the card. Multiple people had more than 10 wants for each land. Took me forever to get all of them and even had to offer more points just so I could get them.
- If and when puca gets shut down, your out of everything. Can't cash out nothing. Bye Bye to everything.
-It cost over 50 cents to send card/s to someone. The difference nearly cost me the same just selling at card shops for CASH.
-Plenty of better sites out there to find deals. I got a Karn for $38 off Ebay making offer and an Emrakul for $17.50. Did this with many other cards as well.
-Puca is for collectors/stores/bots. If you want to build a deck... GOOD LUCK. Hope your patient.
-Have to pay extra per month to get foils.
-Lot of times people were sending me cards and I never got them. After a month the cards I wanted shot up in price to where I didn't want them anymore. THANKS PUCA
-Puca only says N/NM only yet I received plenty of cards LP or lower and took puca forever to respond and some of the times I was ***** OUT OF LUCK
Plenty more reasons why not to join puca (I was lazy & not experienced in trading at the time) but I wont waste anymore time.
And the argument for the affirmative...
(Not because I don't doubt that happened to you... if you're building a Modern deck, the staples can take a long time to get a hold of)
Makes trading up really easy. There are more collectors on the site every day, so offloading your spare old stuff to the collectors is a great way to trade up to something more useful.
Casual decks are much easier to fill than tourney-level decks. I have built something in the league of six new Multiplayer decks in the last year almost solely off Puca (and yes, that includes some pretty staple stuff, a key example being a playset of Beast Within).
99.9% of the traders on Puca are awesome people. You get the odd person who doesn't get it, but I've dealt with someone wonderful folk on all corners of the planet. I had one guy send a single Sengir Vampire from the US to Australia, simply because he knew I was adding it to a newbie cube for my kids, and it was his favourite card growing up with the game (so he was inspired to help someone else have the same experience). That's the stuff that you go to sleep at night smiling about.
It thins out my collection and makes it leaner (because I really don't need 20 different copies of Duress across five sets, no matter how much I might try and justify it in my own head).
It makes buying some of the preconstructed MtG products more worthwhile. Want to buy one of the C15 decks, but want to gut half of it? No worries, someone else will want the other half somewhere. Intro Decks are also great for this (particularly when they carry money uncommons, like the Jeskai KTK deck carrying Monastery Swiftspear, or the Azorius DTK deck carrying multiple Silkwraps).
I have received some excellent format staples without needing to spend money on anything other than postage stamps. In other words, I am winning on the money front.
Finally, the site encourages patience and generosity... two things sorely lacking on this planet some days.
Does having a Gold membership make you look more appealing to others when requesting cards?
I took a look at my blocked list, and 7/24 (29%) of them were gold/silver. I would have to say that most people I block have had problems with sending to me, so take that as you will.
I deal almost exclusively in bulk, so if someone has points and wants cards I have, I hit them quick - I always sort by number of points, and never by color status.
Here's me: You have sent 5045 cards with a total value of 153,693 PucaPoints and you have received 1130 cards from other members with a total value of 153,425 PucaPoints.
I've traded up, but not that much. I've been primarily filling in bulkish holes sending out excess chaff I have. I'm almost getting to the point where I wonder if it's worth staying on the site, but after logging over 35k cards into the system, it's still a little hard to wave bye-bye to all the time I've put in. I'm sure I'll be a sucker for a while yet, but I see both sides of this coin.
I have a bad habit of trading down, but Puca has still been good to me:
You have sent 433 cards with a total value of 453,089 PucaPoints and you have received 1343 cards from other members with a total value of 452,735 PucaPoints.
I've gotten playsets of Mox Opal, Karn, 2 Lilianas, a Taiga, a few Vendilion Cliques, Cryptic Commands, Flip Jaces, Stoneforge Mystics, Fetches both old and new, Eye of Ugins, a million envelopes of 20 cent Pauper cards, some fancy basic lands, etc.
I've also shipped out tons of valuable cards -- fetches, Shocklands, Mox Opals, Snapcasters, the Dark Blood Moons, Dark Confidants, etc.
For all the bad things on Puca, I'm still super happy to send my cards to other players who want them instead of buylists. I've shipped out more cards there than I ever did before--and I've gotten back plenty. Both my eBay commissions and TCGPlayer purchases have gone down since I joined last March, and my collection has become leaner and more fun as I have been able to shed good cards at reasonable value and get back what I needed to build decks (Legacy Jeskai Delver, Modern Affinity, Modern GR Tron, Modern Living End, Modern Restore Balance, Pauper mono Black Control, Pauper Affinity, Pauper Fiend, Pauper Jeskai, and parts of lots of other decks). Sometimes I have offered bounties to get what I want, but honestly that's no big deal.
Plus, no one has mentioned the best part of Pucatrade--opening your mailbox to envelopes full of magic cards ALL THE TIME.
-Took me over 6 months to get 5 cards ($30 or more) for my G/R tron deck.
-Use fake points instead of real money? Took me awhile to not be lazy and find better sites out there while getting cash and saving money.
-Puca was $10 or more than star city games for Karn and Emrakul at the time I wanted.
-Puca supports bots being used, which makes getting cards a lot harder. I tried to get a play set of khans fetch lands and looked at the other people wanting the card. Multiple people had more than 10 wants for each land. Took me forever to get all of them and even had to offer more points just so I could get them.
- If and when puca gets shut down, your out of everything. Can't cash out nothing. Bye Bye to everything.
-It cost over 50 cents to send card/s to someone. The difference nearly cost me the same just selling at card shops for CASH.
-Plenty of better sites out there to find deals. I got a Karn for $38 off Ebay making offer and an Emrakul for $17.50. Did this with many other cards as well.
-Puca is for collectors/stores/bots. If you want to build a deck... GOOD LUCK. Hope your patient.
-Have to pay extra per month to get foils.
-Lot of times people were sending me cards and I never got them. After a month the cards I wanted shot up in price to where I didn't want them anymore. THANKS PUCA
-Puca only says N/NM only yet I received plenty of cards LP or lower and took puca forever to respond and some of the times I was ***** OUT OF LUCK
Plenty more reasons why not to join puca (I was lazy & not experienced in trading at the time) but I wont waste anymore time.
I'm just going to point out that all his posts are complaining about pucatrade.
There are benefits and negatives to trading on pucatrade vs selling to stores.
benefits
- full value for cards (less shipping expenses)
- easy to move less popular cards
- great community
- don't have to worry about getting ripped off for your cards
negatives
- you need to enter your cards on puca
-sometimes nobody wants your cards
- you dont get cash for them
- it may take time to receive tournament staples
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Received a NM-/SP+ Revised Tundra last week. I'm going to keep grinding those points until the bottom falls out, I guess. To each his own.
I'm really happy for you. I ended up being taken care of by someone on this forum who was kind enough to fill my wants. If it wasn't for that I'd prob still be waiting right now. Regardless, the goal is to keep giving back to the community so I've recently sent out 4 more envelopes with 4+ cards each.
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Update - this trade has officially gone bananas, so I'm recording it in here for posterity (and for everyone else's amusement... I'm sure I'll look back on it and laugh too, given enough time).
So I opened a case on Feb 10th, and the guy marked it shipped straight up.
I waited. Still no cards, still no communication.
I got to Feb 19th, by which time I'd sent a package to another Pucatrader in the same city and had it arrive in two days flat. Still nothing, so I alerted the admins.
It's a Friday, so the admins get to it on Feb 22nd, and give the whole "has this been sent, you've got two days to reply or we'll can the trade" thing.
We get to today, Feb 24th, which is D-Day. Still no communication. The mods are within hours of cancelling the trade...
...and the package turns up!
It's postmarked Feb 18th, so the guy hit Shipped and sat on it for eight days.
So I've dropped the admins a little note asking whether I should mark the trade as complete or not, given the circumstances. It's going to be fascinating to see their reply.
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This is seriously one of the things that drives me the absolute craziest about Puca. I get that there's really no better way to enforce the shipping rule in the absence of a tracking number, but the fact that some people will click "shipped" and then sit on a package is totally absurd. On top of that, what's even crappier is when folks will mark something as shipped just to get the admins off their back in a case. It's such a tremendously inefficient process.
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Actually it's not,along with points rewarded fir premium account sign ups it leads to massive inflation and destabilization of the whole system.
You send something (or say you do) I don't recieve it we contact an admin, we stick by our stories. With no way to determine the truth he awards us both points. Now there is more value in the system then their should be.
Done enuf and there will be so much of the artificial value it will lead to people offering higher and higher bounties due to the surplus supply of points, this causes prices to go up and the intrinsic value of points to decline. Eventually the points will have so little value the will essentially be worthless. Ever heard the story of people needing wheelbarrows of money just to buy a loaf of bread in Germany after WWI? Given enuf time that is what will happen. This is the reason that points that were originally in line with US currency on a 100 pt to 1 dollar ratio are now closer to 60-70 pts to 1 dollar.
It's not just Puca, though. I get people doing this to me on eBay too. I ding them on star value, but there's really nothing that anyone can do about it.
I understand that. I even voiced concerns over inflation very recently in this thread. I was speaking from the perspective of PucaTrade -- it doesn't cost them cash to refund points -- just time.
I think you're overlooking the more obvious reason that points are worth less than 100 per dollar, it's simpler than inflation: it's an issue with assigned value.
Puca used mid prices to determine point values, which means keeping points at 100 per dollar relies on people being okay with purchasing for mid prices. Why would you do that? I decipher the 60-70 point value per dollar as a cash adjustment, making it so if I bought points to obtain a card it would be the equivalent of paying cash on TCG low.
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Also got a Sorin I sent recently to a guy, he marks it received the same day I mark shipped. Very weird - I guess he trusts it will be received? Or just a misclick.
Agreed there. Thankfully, it doesn't happen too often - this guy is the first one to do it to me in close to a year's PucaTrading.
For the record, Kush stepped in and marked the trade as complete (given the cards arrived), but essentially added a "don't you dare let us catch you doing this again" to the end of his message.
I suspect the dude was a younger trader who thought he had a Karlov, didn't and panicked... and then just didn't bother communicating.
PROTIP: Communication, even when you've screwed something up, will get you out of a lot of pickles. I'd have put up with this behaviour a lot longer if the guy had just talked to me instead of behaving like a douche.
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I recently checked the price to see it jumped. I guess the trader is ignoring me and not going to send? What is the potential outcome....did I get screwed over?
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This rule from the pucatrade site may help you:
"2.Deciding not to send a card due to a change in value is not permitted. Requesting cancellations for trades that have increased in value may cause your account to be debited PucaPoints equivalent to the current value of the card (instead of the value at the moment of trade-initiation) at the discretion of the site administrators. "
You'll just have to wait and see what happens, hopefully you get compensated accordingly with either the card, or the difference in pucapoints to make up for the change in value so you can attempt to get the card elsewhere at the current price.
Does having a Gold membership make you look more appealing to others when requesting cards? Let's say 21 individuals all want a Lion's Eye Diamond, and they are all Silver or free membership, while I am the only Gold membership.
Considering the various factors, will a Gold member have a stronger likelihood of getting the LED sent to them over others w/o the Gold membership?
I know other factors factor in, such as can they chain together other cards to make it a larger trade, and (maybe) how long said card is on the wants list (I treat it as a factor when deciding who to send - but I also send to Gold members first because they are paying more to be there, I feel they deserve the preferential treatment (and no, I am not a PT Elitist).
I wouldn't say I'm biased between Gold and Silver, but I'm definitely biased between Gold/Silver versus Common. I didn't used to be when I started with Puca a year ago, but when I have issues with sending or receiving, it's proportionally the common members that I'm having trouble with. I think you've got the nail on the head that those that pay for the service are more likely to take their trades serious and not mess around.
So to answer your question - if I've got the choice between Gold/Silver and Common members to send a card to - controlling for all other factors - I'll always preferentially send to a Gold/Silver.
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Something else to consider is that Silver/Gold members are able to sort out disputes in condition or pay off bounties by sending points directly between members. I've sent a card I thought was NM before and caught flak from the receiving party. The card was cheap enough I didn't want to bother arguing, so I sent him 20% as if it were SP. With a common member, you're looking at dealing with a return process or having to involve the admins to send points (if this is even something they do anymore).
This is exactly how I work. I'm Silver myself, and draw no distinction between othe Silver/Gold members, but draw a huge distinction between paying/non-paying members.
Last time I used PucaTrade, I couldn't get NM cards to save my life, and ended up taking an 18-month hiatus from it. This time, the cards I've received have been great, but I can't get paying members to credit points.
-Took me over 6 months to get 5 cards ($30 or more) for my G/R tron deck.
-Use fake points instead of real money? Took me awhile to not be lazy and find better sites out there while getting cash and saving money.
-Puca was $10 or more than star city games for Karn and Emrakul at the time I wanted.
-Puca supports bots being used, which makes getting cards a lot harder. I tried to get a play set of khans fetch lands and looked at the other people wanting the card. Multiple people had more than 10 wants for each land. Took me forever to get all of them and even had to offer more points just so I could get them.
- If and when puca gets shut down, your out of everything. Can't cash out nothing. Bye Bye to everything.
-It cost over 50 cents to send card/s to someone. The difference nearly cost me the same just selling at card shops for CASH.
-Plenty of better sites out there to find deals. I got a Karn for $38 off Ebay making offer and an Emrakul for $17.50. Did this with many other cards as well.
-Puca is for collectors/stores/bots. If you want to build a deck... GOOD LUCK. Hope your patient.
-Have to pay extra per month to get foils.
-Lot of times people were sending me cards and I never got them. After a month the cards I wanted shot up in price to where I didn't want them anymore. THANKS PUCA
-Puca only says N/NM only yet I received plenty of cards LP or lower and took puca forever to respond and some of the times I was ***** OUT OF LUCK
Plenty more reasons why not to join puca (I was lazy & not experienced in trading at the time) but I wont waste anymore time.
And the argument for the affirmative...
(Not because I don't doubt that happened to you... if you're building a Modern deck, the staples can take a long time to get a hold of)
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The number one factor for me is if a member also has some small wants and I can send those cards, too.
I took a look at my blocked list, and 7/24 (29%) of them were gold/silver. I would have to say that most people I block have had problems with sending to me, so take that as you will.
I deal almost exclusively in bulk, so if someone has points and wants cards I have, I hit them quick - I always sort by number of points, and never by color status.
Here's me: You have sent 5045 cards with a total value of 153,693 PucaPoints and you have received 1130 cards from other members with a total value of 153,425 PucaPoints.
I've traded up, but not that much. I've been primarily filling in bulkish holes sending out excess chaff I have. I'm almost getting to the point where I wonder if it's worth staying on the site, but after logging over 35k cards into the system, it's still a little hard to wave bye-bye to all the time I've put in. I'm sure I'll be a sucker for a while yet, but I see both sides of this coin.
You have sent 433 cards with a total value of 453,089 PucaPoints and you have received 1343 cards from other members with a total value of 452,735 PucaPoints.
I've gotten playsets of Mox Opal, Karn, 2 Lilianas, a Taiga, a few Vendilion Cliques, Cryptic Commands, Flip Jaces, Stoneforge Mystics, Fetches both old and new, Eye of Ugins, a million envelopes of 20 cent Pauper cards, some fancy basic lands, etc.
I've also shipped out tons of valuable cards -- fetches, Shocklands, Mox Opals, Snapcasters, the Dark Blood Moons, Dark Confidants, etc.
For all the bad things on Puca, I'm still super happy to send my cards to other players who want them instead of buylists. I've shipped out more cards there than I ever did before--and I've gotten back plenty. Both my eBay commissions and TCGPlayer purchases have gone down since I joined last March, and my collection has become leaner and more fun as I have been able to shed good cards at reasonable value and get back what I needed to build decks (Legacy Jeskai Delver, Modern Affinity, Modern GR Tron, Modern Living End, Modern Restore Balance, Pauper mono Black Control, Pauper Affinity, Pauper Fiend, Pauper Jeskai, and parts of lots of other decks). Sometimes I have offered bounties to get what I want, but honestly that's no big deal.
Plus, no one has mentioned the best part of Pucatrade--opening your mailbox to envelopes full of magic cards ALL THE TIME.
I'm just going to point out that all his posts are complaining about pucatrade.
There are benefits and negatives to trading on pucatrade vs selling to stores.
benefits
- full value for cards (less shipping expenses)
- easy to move less popular cards
- great community
- don't have to worry about getting ripped off for your cards
negatives
- you need to enter your cards on puca
-sometimes nobody wants your cards
- you dont get cash for them
- it may take time to receive tournament staples
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation