The creators have expended a massive amount of work (and capital) to create this system. It is highly unlikely they would game it for a few hundred dollars in cards. Additionally, if they were doing this their accounts would have more points and people would be sending them expensive cards.
I'm not saying that was the primary reason for creating PucaTrade, but it would be a huge bonus. And I'd be talking thousands of dollars, not hundreds. And as for profiles, if they created the site, it would be no problem to set up as many dummy accounts as you wanted to.
Apparently it was my turn to experience PucaTrade douchebaggery again (though, to be fair, it's been a while).
Dude commits to send Karlov and six full-art Wastes.
Dude leaves it marked unshipped in Puca.
I wait... and wait... and wait... and drop him a line after 12 days, politely asking if he forgot to ship / mark as shipped or something.
Silence.
I wait the full fortnight, open a case, and put in the case notes "For goodness sake, if you're sick, or something happened, or you just screwed up, communicate with me and it's all good".
Dude doesn't reply, just marks it all shipped after a 15-day wait and a case opening.
So it looks like it's all coming, but man... I'm in two minds as to whether I alert the mods or not. I'm definitely leaving the case open until it turns up.
Apparently it was my turn to experience PucaTrade douchebaggery again (though, to be fair, it's been a while).
Dude commits to send Karlov and six full-art Wastes.
Dude leaves it marked unshipped in Puca.
I wait... and wait... and wait... and drop him a line after 12 days, politely asking if he forgot to ship / mark as shipped or something.
Silence.
I wait the full fortnight, open a case, and put in the case notes "For goodness sake, if you're sick, or something happened, or you just screwed up, communicate with me and it's all good".
Dude doesn't reply, just marks it all shipped after a 15-day wait and a case opening.
So it looks like it's all coming, but man... I'm in two minds as to whether I alert the mods or not. I'm definitely leaving the case open until it turns up.
In cases like this it's always good to alert the admins. They put notes on user accounts and repeat offenders are given trade limits or trade privileges revoked, from what I understand. It sucks, though.
I'm pretty lenient on trades coming my way, so I'm in your boat of leaving it for ~two weeks-ish before communicating, but I always alert an admin when I open a case at the same time. I believe Sparki is correct in that the admins keep track of accounts like that.
Also, block and move on once the case has resolved itself.
Apparently it was my turn to experience PucaTrade douchebaggery again (though, to be fair, it's been a while).
Dude commits to send Karlov and six full-art Wastes.
Dude leaves it marked unshipped in Puca.
I wait... and wait... and wait... and drop him a line after 12 days, politely asking if he forgot to ship / mark as shipped or something.
Silence.
I wait the full fortnight, open a case, and put in the case notes "For goodness sake, if you're sick, or something happened, or you just screwed up, communicate with me and it's all good".
Dude doesn't reply, just marks it all shipped after a 15-day wait and a case opening.
So it looks like it's all coming, but man... I'm in two minds as to whether I alert the mods or not. I'm definitely leaving the case open until it turns up.
I went through this exact thing two weeks ago. I'm probably a bit pushier and will give you 4 days to ship, but that's still forgiving given the fact that Puca guidelines are 48 hours. I send the guy a polite note after day 4 - nothing. I wait 24 hours for him to respond, then ask the admins to get involved. No communication, but marks everything as shipped in response. Two weeks later, no cards yet. I reopen the case, no communication AGAIN, then the admins refund my points.
My word to the wise - as long as it can take the admins to respond to cases (sometimes 2-3 days), I've been erring more and more on the side of altering them earlier rather than later (withing the guidelines, of course). If you're going to wait a week for someone who's not going to ship the cards, and then another 3 days on top of that for the admin - that's a ton of wasted time in my eyes.
I recently started using Pucatrade, and I'm a bit confused about finding users who wants specific cards. For example, it currently says there are around 200 wants for Valakut, The Molten Pinnacle. However when I go to the send cards option there are only around 8 results. I am searching all countries. Another example is Simian Spirit Guide. I am turning up 0 results for this card. Given its current popularity, its hard to believe there is nobody in the world that wants it. Am I searching wrong?
I recently started using Pucatrade, and I'm a bit confused about finding users who wants specific cards. For example, it currently says there are around 200 wants for Valakut, The Molten Pinnacle. However when I go to the send cards option there are only around 8 results. I am searching all countries. Another example is Simian Spirit Guide. I am turning up 0 results for this card. Given its current popularity, its hard to believe there is nobody in the world that wants it. Am I searching wrong?
I'm getting the same thing when I try those cards. SSG probably got removed from want lists when it spiked. People want it, but not for 1229 PP.
I missed a lot of years of Magic, so it's been great for me to quickly get the singles I need to catch up a bit. Had 3k points come in a little while ago and 19 minutes later they were gone and I have a big stack of cards in the mail.
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I recently started using Pucatrade, and I'm a bit confused about finding users who wants specific cards. For example, it currently says there are around 200 wants for Valakut, The Molten Pinnacle. However when I go to the send cards option there are only around 8 results. I am searching all countries. Another example is Simian Spirit Guide. I am turning up 0 results for this card. Given its current popularity, its hard to believe there is nobody in the world that wants it. Am I searching wrong?
Unless things have changed recently, that number reflects everyone who has the card on their want list regardless of their point balance. Searching only turns up the people who both want it and have the points to pay for it.
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I recently started using Pucatrade, and I'm a bit confused about finding users who wants specific cards. For example, it currently says there are around 200 wants for Valakut, The Molten Pinnacle. However when I go to the send cards option there are only around 8 results. I am searching all countries. Another example is Simian Spirit Guide. I am turning up 0 results for this card. Given its current popularity, its hard to believe there is nobody in the world that wants it. Am I searching wrong?
Unless things have changed recently, that number reflects everyone who has the card on their want list regardless of their point balance. Searching only turns up the people who both want it and have the points to pay for it.
After the initial excitement of receiving a few 100 point cards, I've yet to receive anything for the past almost two weeks solid, and have yet to receive anything of value for the entire month and a half I've been on the site. My list has various stuff on it (not just fetches and shocks) but so far it feels like no one is sending anything good out.
Sitting on almost 5k worth of points, out all the stamps/cards I've used to accumulate these points, and to be honest I'd warn anyone not looking for bulk rares to stay away.
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I have had the owner send me 600 points of cards .. and when I looked at his points they were only 8000 or so, if I recall right.
I believe he has a much better chance of making good a profit by being honest and having a good reputation, than developing a site just to scam people of a few pieces of cardboard.
After the initial excitement of receiving a few 100 point cards, I've yet to receive anything for the past almost two weeks solid, and have yet to receive anything of value for the entire month and a half I've been on the site. My list has various stuff on it (not just fetches and shocks) but so far it feels like no one is sending anything good out.
Sitting on almost 5k worth of points, out all the stamps/cards I've used to accumulate these points, and to be honest I'd warn anyone not looking for bulk rares to stay away.
Some players are gun-shy right now: a lot of card prices have been spiking and no one wants to be the guy who traded away his Karplusan Forests the day before they gained $15.
Give it some time, they will come. I picked up a Fulminator Mage ($2 bounty) last week, and an Expedition the week before that with no bounty.
So I guess Force of Will is being relentlessly filled right now.
Yeah, I'm one of the guys that suddenly had a FoW want fulfilled. I heard about the announcement within minutes of it being made, immediately headed to Pucatrade to remove FoW from my wants list, only to find my (and almost everyone else's) FoW want already fulfilled.
Although that's clearly kind of a dick move on the part of people dumping FoW and Wasteland, I'm generally okay with getting an Alliances FoW at full price. In the long run, I'm not sure EMA will lower the Alliances FoW value all that much; Future Sight Tarmogoyf is still around $200 after two MM reprints. Even the EMA FoW, at Mythic, will probably be $60-70. I'm trying to upgrade my Modern Merfolk to Legacy, so I will still need three more EMA FoWs, and I guess it will be nice to have at least one OG FoW.
So I guess Force of Will is being relentlessly filled right now.
Yeah, I'm one of the guys that suddenly had a FoW want fulfilled. I heard about the announcement within minutes of it being made, immediately headed to Pucatrade to remove FoW from my wants list, only to find my (and almost everyone else's) FoW want already fulfilled.
Although that's clearly kind of a dick move on the part of people dumping FoW and Wasteland, I'm generally okay with it getting an Alliances FoW at full price. In the long run, I'm not sure EMA will lower the Alliances FoW value all that much; Future Sight Tarmogoyf is still around $200 after two MM reprints. Even the EMA FoW, at Mythic, will probably be $60-70. I'm trying to upgrade my Modern Merfolk to Legacy, so I will still need three more EMA FoWs, and I guess it will be nice to have at least one OG FoW.
I still think it's a good pick up for you. Fow being mythic will do very little to the price, especially alliances ones.
After the initial excitement of receiving a few 100 point cards, I've yet to receive anything for the past almost two weeks solid, and have yet to receive anything of value for the entire month and a half I've been on the site. My list has various stuff on it (not just fetches and shocks) but so far it feels like no one is sending anything good out.
Sitting on almost 5k worth of points, out all the stamps/cards I've used to accumulate these points, and to be honest I'd warn anyone not looking for bulk rares to stay away.
Offer to accept sp cards or offer a bonus and you will be much more likely to get cards. I have received well over $1000 dollars worth of cards doing this. Pucatrade has been really good for me for standard, modern, edh, and cube.
So I guess Force of Will is being relentlessly filled right now.
Yeah, I'm one of the guys that suddenly had a FoW want fulfilled. I heard about the announcement within minutes of it being made, immediately headed to Pucatrade to remove FoW from my wants list, only to find my (and almost everyone else's) FoW want already fulfilled.
Although that's clearly kind of a dick move on the part of people dumping FoW and Wasteland, I'm generally okay with it getting an Alliances FoW at full price. In the long run, I'm not sure EMA will lower the Alliances FoW value all that much; Future Sight Tarmogoyf is still around $200 after two MM reprints. Even the EMA FoW, at Mythic, will probably be $60-70. I'm trying to upgrade my Modern Merfolk to Legacy, so I will still need three more EMA FoWs, and I guess it will be nice to have at least one OG FoW.
I still think it's a good pick up for you. Fow being mythic will do very little to the price, especially alliances ones.
Agreed. And the Alliances copies are probably going to remain the more expensive copies long-term too (due to scarcity, more than anything).
So for those in Australia and the UK... is anyone else seeing a stupidly long slowdown in post times between the two?
I've got two separate packages winging their way to the UK at the moment, and both are now over a fortnight's travel time...
... oh, that feeling when you've got 6,500 points in the wind, and they're not surfacing...
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I did a trade a while back for a foreign Chandra and Choke. After a few weeks, we both reached out to each other to see what had happened. He apologized that he forgot to send it out. It never bothered me as I still needed cards from my want list.
I followed up a few weeks later saying that I haven't seen anything yet. He said he mailed it out with a batch of others and they have turned them all in.
We waited another week and still nothing. I felt awful and the mods accepted our claim as lost mail.
After a month had gone by, my wife had left mail in one of her older purses. Guess what...it was in there. I've tried to contact him, but after a few times, nothing. I have the points to reimburse him. But I am not silver so I can't gift. I want to give credit - how can I do it?
reposting as I didnt get a response. I still havn't heard from him - but I wish to give him points. Honor above all
Without being silver/gold and without being able to contact him, you can't credit him the points without mod help. Presumably they wouldn't mind given the situation. If you were able to contact him, it would be a simple matter of him initiating a trade to "send" you cards of equal value and then you just marking received. Boom, points transferred.
However, to put your mind at rest, it's more than likely that the mods gave him the points for the send. It's part of Puca's guarantee.
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However, to put your mind at rest, it's more than likely that the mods gave him the points for the send. It's part of Puca's guarantee.
That is one of the superb features of Puca's points system. There's a dispute? "Print" up some "money" and make sure everyone is whole. Only costs them time. eBay can't even do that for (basically) free.
So for those in Australia and the UK... is anyone else seeing a stupidly long slowdown in post times between the two?
I've got two separate packages winging their way to the UK at the moment, and both are now over a fortnight's travel time...
Reporting back...
One of them just got ticked off... after 24 days out in the aether. I've got a second package still out there at 21 days and counting.
So it looks like Australia -> UK is pretty slow right now for some reason. Not too many issues to other parts of Europe from what I can see (I've also sent to Norway and Finland in the last few weeks, and both turned up in the 9-10 day range).
I'm not saying that was the primary reason for creating PucaTrade, but it would be a huge bonus. And I'd be talking thousands of dollars, not hundreds. And as for profiles, if they created the site, it would be no problem to set up as many dummy accounts as you wanted to.
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In cases like this it's always good to alert the admins. They put notes on user accounts and repeat offenders are given trade limits or trade privileges revoked, from what I understand. It sucks, though.
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Also, block and move on once the case has resolved itself.
I went through this exact thing two weeks ago. I'm probably a bit pushier and will give you 4 days to ship, but that's still forgiving given the fact that Puca guidelines are 48 hours. I send the guy a polite note after day 4 - nothing. I wait 24 hours for him to respond, then ask the admins to get involved. No communication, but marks everything as shipped in response. Two weeks later, no cards yet. I reopen the case, no communication AGAIN, then the admins refund my points.
My word to the wise - as long as it can take the admins to respond to cases (sometimes 2-3 days), I've been erring more and more on the side of altering them earlier rather than later (withing the guidelines, of course). If you're going to wait a week for someone who's not going to ship the cards, and then another 3 days on top of that for the admin - that's a ton of wasted time in my eyes.
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I'm getting the same thing when I try those cards. SSG probably got removed from want lists when it spiked. People want it, but not for 1229 PP.
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That makes sense. Thanks for that
Sitting on almost 5k worth of points, out all the stamps/cards I've used to accumulate these points, and to be honest I'd warn anyone not looking for bulk rares to stay away.
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I believe he has a much better chance of making good a profit by being honest and having a good reputation, than developing a site just to scam people of a few pieces of cardboard.
Some players are gun-shy right now: a lot of card prices have been spiking and no one wants to be the guy who traded away his Karplusan Forests the day before they gained $15.
Give it some time, they will come. I picked up a Fulminator Mage ($2 bounty) last week, and an Expedition the week before that with no bounty.
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Yeah, I'm one of the guys that suddenly had a FoW want fulfilled. I heard about the announcement within minutes of it being made, immediately headed to Pucatrade to remove FoW from my wants list, only to find my (and almost everyone else's) FoW want already fulfilled.
Although that's clearly kind of a dick move on the part of people dumping FoW and Wasteland, I'm generally okay with getting an Alliances FoW at full price. In the long run, I'm not sure EMA will lower the Alliances FoW value all that much; Future Sight Tarmogoyf is still around $200 after two MM reprints. Even the EMA FoW, at Mythic, will probably be $60-70. I'm trying to upgrade my Modern Merfolk to Legacy, so I will still need three more EMA FoWs, and I guess it will be nice to have at least one OG FoW.
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I still think it's a good pick up for you. Fow being mythic will do very little to the price, especially alliances ones.
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Offer to accept sp cards or offer a bonus and you will be much more likely to get cards. I have received well over $1000 dollars worth of cards doing this. Pucatrade has been really good for me for standard, modern, edh, and cube.
Agreed. And the Alliances copies are probably going to remain the more expensive copies long-term too (due to scarcity, more than anything).
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I've got two separate packages winging their way to the UK at the moment, and both are now over a fortnight's travel time...
... oh, that feeling when you've got 6,500 points in the wind, and they're not surfacing...
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reposting as I didnt get a response. I still havn't heard from him - but I wish to give him points. Honor above all
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However, to put your mind at rest, it's more than likely that the mods gave him the points for the send. It's part of Puca's guarantee.
Good on your for trying to get him the points.
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That is one of the superb features of Puca's points system. There's a dispute? "Print" up some "money" and make sure everyone is whole. Only costs them time. eBay can't even do that for (basically) free.
Reporting back...
One of them just got ticked off... after 24 days out in the aether. I've got a second package still out there at 21 days and counting.
So it looks like Australia -> UK is pretty slow right now for some reason. Not too many issues to other parts of Europe from what I can see (I've also sent to Norway and Finland in the last few weeks, and both turned up in the 9-10 day range).
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