Brushhopper is a great example of short term context. The card was an undercoated (at the time) beater, that was hard to kill, and helped fill the yard in a block dedicated to filling graveyards. I can totally see how people would get excited about the card with it first came out. The one that I remember peaking at $17 in the first few weeks out was Oona's Prowler. 3/1 Flyer for 2 without any real drawback. It looks like now it's back up to $2.50-$3.00.
Er, you mean $20 right? That's a big difference, and it was never a chase rare, just a hyped rare, like Aurelia's Fury. A rare isn't a chase rare because people want to open it over some arbitrarily high presell price.
Also, $60 exalted angels? I understand regional differences are a thing, but I clearly remember them being ~$15 each during the heyday of astral slide. Very few standard rares went over $20 back then (pre-modern), like they had to be the caliber of Arcbound Ravager to get there, or a vendor on site at a big tournament marking up popular cards that people needed for the day.
Any planeswalker during the first few weeks before the pre-release or after. They are always ridiculously valued before going down in price. (Notable exception being Jace, the Mindsculpter).
They may go up again like Liliana but most hover around the $10 to $20 dollar range.
My biggest regret was trading a bunch of revised Dual-lands (at $3-$5 each trade-in value) to get the "chase" rares of Urza's Saga like Morphling and Serra Avatar
I recall Rumbling Slum being in the double digits during its hayday. Curve-topper, Bloodthirst trigger, big body for the cost at the time being.
Yes, it was around $10 at one point. At the same time, Burning-Tree Shaman was about $18. I remember trading a play set of each of these and the one Giant Solifuge that I had for a Mana Drain. It was down on dollars at the time, but value won out.
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Voice of Resurgence. $18 today, but what will the future hold, particularly given that nobody liked DGM?
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Although not ignored it is funny to me how Wurmcoil Engine was mentioned as a poor mans titan and look at it now. Vintage play in workshop decks. Mainstay of modern tron decks and with Mox Opal the cards people will remember from scars. I bought my set for 25$ now they are like 30 - 40 dollars each.
Although not ignored it is funny to me how Wurmcoil Engine was mentioned as a poor mans titan and look at it now. Vintage play in workshop decks. Mainstay of modern tron decks and with Mox Opal the cards people will remember from scars. I bought my set for 25$ now they are like 30 - 40 dollars each.
Or $20 each.
That said, it has stayed quite consistent.
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Eternal Dragon was a huge card back when Scourge first hit, and is still one of my all-time favorites. Fortunately (or unfortunately) the release of Modern Masters caused the value of this card to drop to $1-2.
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Eternal Dragon was a huge card back when Scourge first hit, and is still one of my all-time favorites. Fortunately (or unfortunately) the release of Modern Masters caused the value of this card to drop to $1-2.
I think you mean the Commander 2013 release. But the price on Eternal Dragon was already sinking before that. The card just hasn't stood the test of time, power-creep wise.
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Eternal Dragon was a huge card back when Scourge first hit, and is still one of my all-time favorites. Fortunately (or unfortunately) the release of Modern Masters caused the value of this card to drop to $1-2.
I think you mean the Commander 2013 release. But the price on Eternal Dragon was already sinking before that. The card just hasn't stood the test of time, power-creep wise.
Looking now, you're right, copies are between $3-3.50 for the SCG print. The art on the original is also ten times better than the C13 edition. I guess cards like Path to Exile and Oblivion Ring really trashed the playability of the card.
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A lot of chase creatures just got outclassed in modern set design. Spells were a lot more powerful back in the day while creatures and lands (Mostly) got the shaft. Any creature half decent was a chase card even going as far back as Juggernaut and Juzam Djinn in the first two sets.
Rotating formats and power creep make them all but irrelevant, not to mention reprints in some of them staple wise.
Had Siege Rhino gotten released 12 years ago, it would be a $20-25 card easily. Mythics have balanced the rare game in terms of raw numbers, but overall with the rise of popularity of MTG and variance of rarities has meant that we still can have very chase rares (though i feel they still peak at $15-25 ranges if they're standard playable, and usually those cards have backwards compatibility), and playable mythics have a high price ceiling that overall it's still going to be more expensive for everyone than it was in the past.
I remember most of these -
also, Nalanthi Dragon, Time Elemental and Anurid Brushhopper
Grinning Totem
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Brushhopper is a great example of short term context. The card was an undercoated (at the time) beater, that was hard to kill, and helped fill the yard in a block dedicated to filling graveyards. I can totally see how people would get excited about the card with it first came out. The one that I remember peaking at $17 in the first few weeks out was Oona's Prowler. 3/1 Flyer for 2 without any real drawback. It looks like now it's back up to $2.50-$3.00.
WUBRGPauper Battle BoxWUBRG ... and why I am not a fan of Wayne Reynolds' Illustrations.
Also, $60 exalted angels? I understand regional differences are a thing, but I clearly remember them being ~$15 each during the heyday of astral slide. Very few standard rares went over $20 back then (pre-modern), like they had to be the caliber of Arcbound Ravager to get there, or a vendor on site at a big tournament marking up popular cards that people needed for the day.
They may go up again like Liliana but most hover around the $10 to $20 dollar range.
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Look at how big a bomb Masticore was during Urza's/Mask Standard. You could play him in almost any deck.
Every once in a while a rules change really hoses a creature.
Morphling is the poster child for that.
Other cards that were huge and now worth much less than they were.
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It was still a chase rare. That pre-con was never in stock anywhere.
Or $20 each.
That said, it has stayed quite consistent.
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I think you mean the Commander 2013 release. But the price on Eternal Dragon was already sinking before that. The card just hasn't stood the test of time, power-creep wise.
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Looking now, you're right, copies are between $3-3.50 for the SCG print. The art on the original is also ten times better than the C13 edition. I guess cards like Path to Exile and Oblivion Ring really trashed the playability of the card.
Rotating formats and power creep make them all but irrelevant, not to mention reprints in some of them staple wise.
Had Siege Rhino gotten released 12 years ago, it would be a $20-25 card easily. Mythics have balanced the rare game in terms of raw numbers, but overall with the rise of popularity of MTG and variance of rarities has meant that we still can have very chase rares (though i feel they still peak at $15-25 ranges if they're standard playable, and usually those cards have backwards compatibility), and playable mythics have a high price ceiling that overall it's still going to be more expensive for everyone than it was in the past.