As the title says, I wonder if it has the potential to grow (alot) overtime?
It is a very good card, played in EDH, casual and Modern (correct me if Im wrong, as I dont play modern but heard from it..) And it wont be reprint in MM. The card is not Survival of the fitest but can be as good in the right deck.
Right now its dirt cheap (around 4$) so even if it turns out to flop and drop a litle it wont be catastrophic..
Today I picked up a playset for 10$ because I though they werent expensive at 2.5
It's been at its current price for like a year. I don't think it will go lower, since it is widely played in modern in various -pod decks. It's not a hard card to find right now though. The set only rotated last year, so people still have them sitting around in their binders, and it was only just a rare. If it continues to see modern play (and it will), it'll go up eventually, but there is quite a large supply left over from its time in standard. Of course, modern 'season' is worth mentioning as well, but it doesn't look like the past season had much of an effect at all. That'll change slowly as New Phyrexia becomes more of a distant memory.
Playset for 10 is fine. I don't think there is tremendous room for growth because of it's narrowness. It's a build around me card as opposed to a staple in multiple deck types. I believe it was also in a preconstructed product which does not bode well for price even if highly playable. See stoneforge mystic which sees tons of play.
It does have a couple things going for it though. It's unlikely to see a reprint in any mass production product (phyrexian mana), it was in a 3rd set which historically are under-opened, and it does have strong casual appeal. With the trend of very powerful creatures in the last few years, this card will only get better as the creature pool grows, not unlike Snapcaster getting better as the sorcery/instant pool grows.
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I could see this getting to $7 at most, but it could be quite a while.
Almost every 'useable' rare has the potential to grow. But it's all about how long you are willing to wait for said growth. I don't see Pod eclipsing $5 for another few years, unless something comes a long that produces a better synergy with it than what already exists.
But if you plan on sticking it in a box of cards and forgetting about it for years, it will be worth more then, than what you paid now. Yes.
Event deck printings means there will be oversupply issues for a while yet.
Pretty much my view on the subject. Getting printed in the event deck means there's a lot more of them out there compared to some other rare, and they're easier to come by than most.
Still, it is an archetype-defining card in Modern, so there is room for growth. I think it'll see the 5-6 range when Modern season starts back up in six months and you have new players who weren't around when Scars block was in Standard. But I think there are probably both safer investments and wiser speculation targets. But if you need a playset, there's no time like the present, since there will be a slow trend upward nonetheless, as with any playable rare.
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I have noticed that although being printed in an event deck does cause it's price to stagnate because supply is high. BUT... The foil versions tend to continue to rise in price almost as expected without missing much of a beat (Green Sun's Zenith and stoneforge mystic).
I have noticed that although being printed in an event deck does cause it's price to stagnate because supply is high. BUT... The foil versions tend to continue to rise in price almost as expected without missing much of a beat (Green Sun's Zenith and stoneforge mystic).
Yes, this. If you want to speculate on cards as an investment, foils will almost always be a better bet. There are of course pre-constructed decks with the one foil rare, but if you watch out for those after a set is released, foil singles will usually outpace non-foil singles by a hefty margin. Foils won't be in the event decks in the months following where you see non-foils just cripple prices if they get included, and they are also less likely to get reprinted at foil in Duel Decks, summer series (commander/etc), and really not until you get a products like Modern Masters where the possibility of a foil comes up. True there's on-offs like Commander's Arsenal or FTV, but the foiling technique is different there and still popular cards climb in value, as evidenced by a Skullclamp and Top, both of which were in FTV:Relics but had their regular-foil versions continue climbing. Finally the discontinuation of the All-Foil PDS makes foil reprints less likely.
Lastly as MTG players have grown up, the adults are most likely to pimp out their casual, eternal format decks, resulting in further demand for the original-printing foil version.
For ~$11 I think foil pods are underpriced. It's the backbone of a major archetype in modern and likely wont go anywhere (pod will just adapt with new creatures.
The fact that it can be cast and activated with colorless mana is just nuts
I wouldn't really speculate on it, but getting 4 for a binder or getting some as trade bait? Sure.
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pod is one of those cards that scares me a little to spec on
sure, it could easily be $10 next modern season, i would be surprised by over $6 but modern does funny things to prices, but, in a format where bloodbraid elf, seething song and (seriously?) wild nactal are banned do you really want to speculate on the enabler for two of the most consistent combo decks (kiki and melira pod) that one of also contains the best enabler from another of modern's "problem combos" in kiki-jiki.
just buy 20 zen fetches and wait for modern season. Its going to get bloody out there
Event deck printings means there will be oversupply issues for a while yet.
I somewhat agree, but Sensei's Devineing Top and Jitte were in pre-constructed decks and they fetch top dollar. They are banned in Modern, but their value elsewhere is known. Thus just because it is in a pre-con or event deck, it does not signify that everyone won't be snap buying it. And before the hoard of idiots begin to respond; I know Birthing Pod is no where near as good as the 2 cards I mentioned.
I somewhat agree, but Sensei's Devineing Top and Jitte were in pre-constructed decks and they fetch top dollar. They are banned in Modern, but their value elsewhere is known. Thus just because it is in a pre-con or event deck, it does not signify that everyone won't be snap buying it. And before the hoard of idiots begin to respond; I know Birthing Pod is no where near as good as the 2 cards I mentioned.
I don't think it's so much that as much as the fact that Kamigawa block was almost ten years ago, and NPH came out only 2 years ago. The player base has exploded over the past five years, and the supply for older cards has remained constant at best, probably gone down due to damage, lost cards, getting forgotten in the attic, etc. So, precon or not, there's just not nearly as many of them out there, even taking into consideration the fact that those are uncommons and Pod is a rare.
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I somewhat agree, but Sensei's Devineing Top and Jitte were in pre-constructed decks and they fetch top dollar. They are banned in Modern, but their value elsewhere is known. Thus just because it is in a pre-con or event deck, it does not signify that everyone won't be snap buying it. And before the horde of idiots begin to respond; I know Birthing Pod is no where near as good as the 2 cards I mentioned.
People really didn't buy precons much back then. My local shops would have trouble selling out just a single case of precons each set. This makes me think while yes the precons where there, the amount of cards contained within them added to the market was fairly negligible.
An aside, you could just say you realize their power level is higher with mentioning a horde of idiots. Being antagonistic and condescending only hurts your argument.
It is true that cards being in Pre-con, Event deck, and Dual decks hurts the value. I bought all the rat decks (Jitte ones) from gamestop for a bid of $5 each and they took it (x12). My profit was huge when they hit $25-30, but I mainly used them as trades to get other exspensive cards. I don't think we will see that luck again. I never bought the Snake deck with Top in it cause I kept opening Tops in packs. I think the most I had was about 32 Tops, and I was not hording them. No one wanted them or they were out of sight, out of mind. Now they are my trade bait.
One notion I had was whether Wizards would kick out a Modern Event style deck to seel the Modern Format more.
It is a very good card, played in EDH, casual and Modern (correct me if Im wrong, as I dont play modern but heard from it..) And it wont be reprint in MM. The card is not Survival of the fitest but can be as good in the right deck.
Right now its dirt cheap (around 4$) so even if it turns out to flop and drop a litle it wont be catastrophic..
Today I picked up a playset for 10$ because I though they werent expensive at 2.5
what you guys think?
It does have a couple things going for it though. It's unlikely to see a reprint in any mass production product (phyrexian mana), it was in a 3rd set which historically are under-opened, and it does have strong casual appeal. With the trend of very powerful creatures in the last few years, this card will only get better as the creature pool grows, not unlike Snapcaster getting better as the sorcery/instant pool grows.
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I could see this getting to $7 at most, but it could be quite a while.
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Pretty much my view on the subject. Getting printed in the event deck means there's a lot more of them out there compared to some other rare, and they're easier to come by than most.
Still, it is an archetype-defining card in Modern, so there is room for growth. I think it'll see the 5-6 range when Modern season starts back up in six months and you have new players who weren't around when Scars block was in Standard. But I think there are probably both safer investments and wiser speculation targets. But if you need a playset, there's no time like the present, since there will be a slow trend upward nonetheless, as with any playable rare.
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- GW Birthing Pod(?)
Legacy:
- UWR Delver
SFM doesn't see as much play as you think. It's in a few legacy decks, but being banned in modern hurts the playability.
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This is someting I didnt know.. Anyways I needed 2 for EDH the other 2 will sit in my binder and we'll see..!
Yes, this. If you want to speculate on cards as an investment, foils will almost always be a better bet. There are of course pre-constructed decks with the one foil rare, but if you watch out for those after a set is released, foil singles will usually outpace non-foil singles by a hefty margin. Foils won't be in the event decks in the months following where you see non-foils just cripple prices if they get included, and they are also less likely to get reprinted at foil in Duel Decks, summer series (commander/etc), and really not until you get a products like Modern Masters where the possibility of a foil comes up. True there's on-offs like Commander's Arsenal or FTV, but the foiling technique is different there and still popular cards climb in value, as evidenced by a Skullclamp and Top, both of which were in FTV:Relics but had their regular-foil versions continue climbing. Finally the discontinuation of the All-Foil PDS makes foil reprints less likely.
Lastly as MTG players have grown up, the adults are most likely to pimp out their casual, eternal format decks, resulting in further demand for the original-printing foil version.
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The fact that it can be cast and activated with colorless mana is just nuts
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sure, it could easily be $10 next modern season, i would be surprised by over $6 but modern does funny things to prices, but, in a format where bloodbraid elf, seething song and (seriously?) wild nactal are banned do you really want to speculate on the enabler for two of the most consistent combo decks (kiki and melira pod) that one of also contains the best enabler from another of modern's "problem combos" in kiki-jiki.
just buy 20 zen fetches and wait for modern season. Its going to get bloody out there
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I somewhat agree, but Sensei's Devineing Top and Jitte were in pre-constructed decks and they fetch top dollar. They are banned in Modern, but their value elsewhere is known. Thus just because it is in a pre-con or event deck, it does not signify that everyone won't be snap buying it. And before the hoard of idiots begin to respond; I know Birthing Pod is no where near as good as the 2 cards I mentioned.
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I don't think it's so much that as much as the fact that Kamigawa block was almost ten years ago, and NPH came out only 2 years ago. The player base has exploded over the past five years, and the supply for older cards has remained constant at best, probably gone down due to damage, lost cards, getting forgotten in the attic, etc. So, precon or not, there's just not nearly as many of them out there, even taking into consideration the fact that those are uncommons and Pod is a rare.
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Modern:
- GW Birthing Pod(?)
Legacy:
- UWR Delver
People really didn't buy precons much back then. My local shops would have trouble selling out just a single case of precons each set. This makes me think while yes the precons where there, the amount of cards contained within them added to the market was fairly negligible.
An aside, you could just say you realize their power level is higher with mentioning a horde of idiots. Being antagonistic and condescending only hurts your argument.
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One notion I had was whether Wizards would kick out a Modern Event style deck to seel the Modern Format more.
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