Not entirely sure if Emrakul is gonna go up or down. Was thinking of trading them for Khans fetches that I need, but I'm not sure. Any idea on what I should do with Emrakul?
I'm with Basics on this one. Emrakul, all the way. The way Modern Masters is balanced, rares get hosed, price-wise, while mythics only take a bit of a brief dousing, and will recover faster. Plus, Emrakul is Legacy-playable, incredibly iconic, and a windmill first-pick. Coronet is played in one Modern deck and a handful of EDH decks, could easily see print in a supplemental product (enchantment-themed duel deck, maybe), and is maybe a fifth pick and then only because it's worth something.
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@Infecter - The 2nd pile looks to be $30 more and contains eternal cards. Go for that one.
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
Value is good. But Dredgevine isn't supposed to be about value. It's supposed to be about V-8; 2000 pounds of nitro boosted war vegetables. The more velocity, the better.
Modern:
DredgeVine EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima Standard:
my:
taiga (revised)
4x zendikar island
1x avenger of zendikar (WWK)
1x sarkhan unbroken
1x dragonlord ojutai
for
tundraw (revised)
did this trade at fnm last week
In a heartbeat, man. Taiga's less than half the price of Tundra, and the DTK mythics pretty much put it halfway. I would have traded literally 2x your pile for that Tundra (assuming NM, which is fairly important).
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I think that trade is good for you. Going off raw TCGMid values, you came out ~$50 ahead on the trade, and I don't necessarily expect Bob or Goyf to drop too much more, at least long-term. A lot of the value of the items you traded away are propped up by having not been included in MM2015, and I feel they would drop if reprinted (although I can't see them reprinting Mystic, Top or Jitte any time soon due to being banned in Modern).
I think that trade is good for you. Going off raw TCGMid values, you came out ~$50 ahead on the trade, and I don't necessarily expect Bob or Goyf to drop tioo much more, at least long-term. A lot of the value of the items you traded away are propped up by having not been included in MM2015, and I feel they would drop if reprinted (although I can't see them reprinting Mystic, Top or Jitte any time soon due to being banned in Modern).
Ah shoot I forgot to include a Snapcaster Mage on my end as well. The $ value is much more equal now but I still think it's a good trade for the reasons that you stated.
Pile A:
Terminus
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Austere Command
Steelshaper's Gift
Elesh Norn
Verdant Catacombs x4
Pile B:
Tarmogoyf MM15
Vendilion Clique MM15
Iona and Elesh have plummeted as they're not that played their value was just based on scarcity and casual demand. Catacombs is very likely for a reprint come September. I'd hate to get rid of Avacyn myself but when you think about it FTV angels is on the way. Pile B looks like the smart bet.
Pile A:
Terminus
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Austere Command
Steelshaper's Gift
Elesh Norn
Verdant Catacombs x4
Pile B:
Tarmogoyf MM15
Vendilion Clique MM15
I would go with pile B. Pile A has too many cards that are prime for reprinting (Avacyn in FtV: Angels & the Catacombs in BfZ) whereas the cards in pile B just got reprinted and are likely only going to go up until reprinted again.
Iona and Elesh have plummeted as they're not that played their value was just based on scarcity and casual demand. Catacombs is very likely for a reprint come September. I'd hate to get rid of Avacyn myself but when you think about it FTV angels is on the way. Pile B looks like the smart bet.
I would go with pile B. Pile A has too many cards that are prime for reprinting (Avacyn in FtV: Angels & the Catacombs in BfZ) whereas the cards in pile B just got reprinted and are likely only going to go up until reprinted again.
Thanks, gents! I don't like to get rid of Avacyn either, but I think she's a shoo-in for FTV, and I have to let go of SOME stuff that I want if I'm going for the eternal staples.
My friend is amending his request:
Terminus
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Austere Command
Steelshaper's Gift
Elesh Norn
Verdant Catacombs x2
Endless Horizons
Caged Sun
Thran Dynamo
Weathered Wayfarer
Mutavault
Blinkmoth Nexus
Blightsteel Colossus
Darksteel Colossus
So, mostly some EDH cards instead of 2x Catacombs. I think I like this even better? Not sure.
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If you're not going to play with Blightsteel Colossus better to give it to somebody that will. It's a high risk reprint because it's so hard to cast, not going to break drafts or standard which means Wizards will drop it whenever they can be bothered bringing back infect (can't have too many mechanics in MM15 was the excuse).
Looks like a great trade to me. Difficult to find takers for many of those cards.
Iona and Elesh have plummeted as they're not that played their value was just based on scarcity and casual demand. Catacombs is very likely for a reprint come September. I'd hate to get rid of Avacyn myself but when you think about it FTV angels is on the way. Pile B looks like the smart bet.
I agree. Pile B is better and your reasoning is similar to mine. But I would put the caveat that FTV reprints typically don't effect prices much... and it will really stink if Avacyn is not in there. I've learned not to trust wizards after FTV:Annihilation. Lots of cards that seemed obvious did not appear in there.
Thanks, gents! I don't like to get rid of Avacyn either, but I think she's a shoo-in for FTV, and I have to let go of SOME stuff that I want if I'm going for the eternal staples.
My friend is amending his request:
Terminus
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Austere Command
Steelshaper's Gift
Elesh Norn
Verdant Catacombs x2
Endless Horizons
Caged Sun
Thran Dynamo
Weathered Wayfarer
Mutavault
Blinkmoth Nexus
Blightsteel Colossus
Darksteel Colossus
So, mostly some EDH cards instead of 2x Catacombs. I think I like this even better? Not sure.
By the numbers I think this is a good swap for you now... but wont be come fall. So if you're using the EDH stuff I definitely wouldn't do it... and I still might favor leaving the fetches in even if you don't use the EDH stuff. It seems too likely the fetches get reprinted this fall.
Now if you could get Avacyn out of the deal and give up some (not all) of that EDH stuff while keeping the fetches in.... I think that would be amazing.
By the numbers I think this is a good swap for you now... but wont be come fall. So if you're using the EDH stuff I definitely wouldn't do it... and I still might favor leaving the fetches in even if you don't use the EDH stuff. It seems too likely the fetches get reprinted this fall.
Now if you could get Avacyn out of the deal and give up some (not all) of that EDH stuff while keeping the fetches in.... I think that would be amazing.
Avacyn is the only card I'm currently using, everything else is in the "has potential for use" pile.
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I'd see if you could get Avacyn out of the deal and keep the fetches and some of the EDH stuff in (whatever works out evenly value wise). If you go this route, then I'd prioritize keeping the wayfarer and mutavault based on my own EDH playing. They have been very good in my decks that use them.
But if they aren't liking it, then I'd still do the trade as is. You're getting some good stuff!
Pile A - 2 8th edition Blood Moon VF+
For
Pile B - MM2015 Foil Dark Confidant
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Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander - Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build) (dead format for me)
I'm with Basics on this one. Emrakul, all the way. The way Modern Masters is balanced, rares get hosed, price-wise, while mythics only take a bit of a brief dousing, and will recover faster. Plus, Emrakul is Legacy-playable, incredibly iconic, and a windmill first-pick. Coronet is played in one Modern deck and a handful of EDH decks, could easily see print in a supplemental product (enchantment-themed duel deck, maybe), and is maybe a fifth pick and then only because it's worth something.
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)taiga (revised)
4x zendikar island
1x avenger of zendikar (WWK)
1x sarkhan unbroken
1x dragonlord ojutai
for
tundraw (revised)
did this trade at fnm last week
Modern:
RUGScapeshift[RUG...Occasionally with goyfs
RUGTarmotwinRUG(RIP)
Legacy:
UWxuwr miracles and stonebladeUWx
Commander:
UWRShu Yun/Ruhan SmashUWR
Good trade, anytime you can trade standard for staples in other formats your moving up in my opinion.
Modern:
DredgeVine
EDH:
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Anima
Standard:
Even so, take the dual all day every day. Not even close.
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Modern:
RUGScapeshift[RUG...Occasionally with goyfs
RUGTarmotwinRUG(RIP)
Legacy:
UWxuwr miracles and stonebladeUWx
Commander:
UWRShu Yun/Ruhan SmashUWR
Not even a question then. The trade was like $100 in your favor.
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In a heartbeat, man. Taiga's less than half the price of Tundra, and the DTK mythics pretty much put it halfway. I would have traded literally 2x your pile for that Tundra (assuming NM, which is fairly important).
Young Pyromancer ( Foil )
For:
2x Polluted Delta ( KtK)
I may have left a little on the table long term but the Pyro had been sitting since prerelease. Delta's will be a ton easier to move.
BUG Reanimator
BWG Nic-Fit
BGR Punishing Nic-Fit
The Pyromancer is $35, and the Deltas are $15 each. Not a horrible trade, especially if you got what you needed to build.
4x Stoneforge Mystic
3x Azusa, Lost but Seeking
4x Goblin Guide
4x Sower of Temptation
4x Vengevine
2x Sensei's Divining Top
2x Umezawa's Jitte
3x Twilight Mire
3x Aven Mindcensor
1x Snapcaster Mage
For Their:
4x Tarmogoyf MM2015
4x Dark Confidant MM2015
Card values here are tricky, but I really never use the cards in my pile and need the Jund staples.
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Ah shoot I forgot to include a Snapcaster Mage on my end as well. The $ value is much more equal now but I still think it's a good trade for the reasons that you stated.
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Terminus
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Austere Command
Steelshaper's Gift
Elesh Norn
Verdant Catacombs x4
Pile B:
Tarmogoyf MM15
Vendilion Clique MM15
Iona and Elesh have plummeted as they're not that played their value was just based on scarcity and casual demand. Catacombs is very likely for a reprint come September. I'd hate to get rid of Avacyn myself but when you think about it FTV angels is on the way. Pile B looks like the smart bet.
I would go with pile B. Pile A has too many cards that are prime for reprinting (Avacyn in FtV: Angels & the Catacombs in BfZ) whereas the cards in pile B just got reprinted and are likely only going to go up until reprinted again.
Legacy
Control
Miracles
All flavors of Stoneblade
Aggro
Grixis Delver
UR Delver
Burn
Combo
Dredge
TES/ANT
UR & UB Reanimator
Belcher
Thanks, gents! I don't like to get rid of Avacyn either, but I think she's a shoo-in for FTV, and I have to let go of SOME stuff that I want if I'm going for the eternal staples.
My friend is amending his request:
Terminus
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Austere Command
Steelshaper's Gift
Elesh Norn
Verdant Catacombs x2
Endless Horizons
Caged Sun
Thran Dynamo
Weathered Wayfarer
Mutavault
Blinkmoth Nexus
Blightsteel Colossus
Darksteel Colossus
So, mostly some EDH cards instead of 2x Catacombs. I think I like this even better? Not sure.
Looks like a great trade to me. Difficult to find takers for many of those cards.
I agree. Pile B is better and your reasoning is similar to mine. But I would put the caveat that FTV reprints typically don't effect prices much... and it will really stink if Avacyn is not in there. I've learned not to trust wizards after FTV:Annihilation. Lots of cards that seemed obvious did not appear in there.
By the numbers I think this is a good swap for you now... but wont be come fall. So if you're using the EDH stuff I definitely wouldn't do it... and I still might favor leaving the fetches in even if you don't use the EDH stuff. It seems too likely the fetches get reprinted this fall.
Now if you could get Avacyn out of the deal and give up some (not all) of that EDH stuff while keeping the fetches in.... I think that would be amazing.
Avacyn is the only card I'm currently using, everything else is in the "has potential for use" pile.
But if they aren't liking it, then I'd still do the trade as is. You're getting some good stuff!
For
Pile B - MM2015 Foil Dark Confidant
Premodern - Trix, RecSur, Enchantress, Reanimator, Elves https://www.facebook.com/groups/PremodernUSA/
Modern - Neobrand, Hogaak Vine, Elves
Standard - Mono Red (6-2 and 5-3 in 2 McQ)
Draft - (I wish I had more time for limited...)
Commander -
Norin the Wary, Grimgrin, Adun Oakenshield (taking forever to build)(dead format for me)Pile B: Wooded Foothills
Steam Vents (Heavily Played)
Deathmist Raptor
None of Pile B was being used.
Pile A without a doubt. Foil Khans fetchlands are at their lowest right now. They have nowhere to go but up from here.
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