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Whoohoo, my first AvB poston this new thread! So, question for you guys!
Pile A
350 unique rares, some in multiple quantities, almost all are from shadowmoor/lorwyn blocks, some from urza saga, some fifth dawn/darksteel/mirrodin. Only 10 cards are worth more than $6 tcgplayer low value:
2 Door of Destinies, 1 Divinity of Pride, 1 Kokusho, the Evening Star, 2 Darksteel Forge, 1 Mycosynth Golem, 2 Cryptic Command, 1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker.
That is it, the rest are <$6, and there should be almost no other cards in here that are legacy staples in any tier 1.5+ legacy deck.
Tcgplayer Low total: $710.83
(if I deleted all cards under $2, the value would be $485.46 )
Full list of cards with tcgplayer low values in spoiler below, sorted by $ value descending
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker CFX 11.99
2 Cryptic Command LRW 11.97
1 Mycosynth Golem FD 9.47
2 Darksteel Forge DS 8.54
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star CHK 7.31
1 Divinity of Pride EVE 6.43
2 Door of Destinies MOR 6.29
4 Creakwood Liege EVE 5.83
3 Figure of Destiny EVE 5.68
4 Liliana Vess LRW 5.68
4 Deathbringer Liege EVE 5.5
1 Staff of Domination FD 5.49
3 Morphling US 5.49
4 Demigod of Revenge SHM 5.39
1 Mephidross Vampire FD 5.36
4 Vigor LRW 4.96
1 Phyrexian Tower US 4.82
2 Greater Auramancy SHM 4.55
1 Yosei, the Morning Star CHK 4.49
4 Stillmoon Cavalier EVE 4.26
2 Wilt-Leaf Liege SHM 4.2
2 Ajani Goldmane LRW 4.19
2 Necroskitter EVE 4
2 Jace Beleren LRW 3.99
1 Decree of Pain SC 3.98
1 Deranged Hermit UL 3.8
4 Murkfiend Liege EVE 3.72
1 Vedalken Orrery FD 3.55
3 Garruk Wildspeaker LRW 3.49
2 Balefire Liege EVE 3.45
1 Radiant, Archangel UL 3.41
1 No Mercy UL 3.32
3 Karn, Silver Golem US 3.3
1 Coat of Arms EX 3.19
1 Marrow-Gnawer CHK 3.14
1 Auriok Champion FD 3.05
1 Tinker UL 2.99
1 Eight-and-a-Half-Tails CHK 2.98
1 Sliver Overlord SC 2.98
1 Panoptic Mirror DS 2.95
2 Preeminent Captain MOR 2.84
2 Primalcrux EVE 2.8
1 Helm of Kaldra FD 2.8
4 Timber Protector LRW 2.75
1 Pristine Angel DS 2.74
4 Doran, the Siege Tower LRW 2.69
1 Memory Jar UL 2.53
4 Thran Quarry US 2.48
1 That Which Was Taken BOK 2.45
1 Quicksilver Amulet UL 2.45
1 Decree of Justice SC 2.39
3 Talara's Battalion EVE 2.37
2 Beacon of Immortality FD 2.37
1 Nezumi Shortfang CHK 2.35
1 Dragon Tyrant SC 2.35
1 Masticore UD 2.33
1 Mirror Gallery BOK 2.24
1 Platinum Angel MR 2.14
1 Scarecrone EVE 2.08
2 Catastrophe US 2
3 Contamination US 1.99
1 Winter Orb 4E 1.99
1 Bringer of the Blue Dawn FD 1.95
1 Myojin of Life's Web CHK 1.9
2 Doubling Cube FD 1.9
1 Forgotten Ancient SC 1.9
1 Leeches HL 1.88
1 Beacon of Unrest FD 1.86
2 Austere Command LRW 1.81
1 Raven Guild Master SC 1.8
1 Hallowed Burial EVE 1.79
1 Kinsbaile Cavalier MOR 1.79
1 Jugan, the Rising Star CHK 1.79
1 Konda, Lord of Eiganjo CHK 1.79
1 Beacon of Creation FD 1.79
1 Ambush Commander SC 1.79
4 Glorious Anthem US 1.79
1 Silent Arbiter FD 1.75
1 Dragonstorm SC 1.75
3 Pariah US 1.75
3 Bloom Tender EVE 1.69
1 Journeyer's Kite CHK 1.66
4 Phyrexian Processor US 1.61
3 Wren's Run Packmaster LRW 1.53
1 Tatsumasa, the Dragon's Fang CHK 1.52
4 Lightning Dragon US 1.51
1 Final Judgment BOK 1.47
1 Patron of the Orochi BOK 1.43
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse CHK 1.43
2 Sanity Grinding EVE 1.39
2 Rise of the Hobgoblins EVE 1.38
3 Grimoire Thief MOR 1.35
2 Stigma Lasher EVE 1.34
1 Konda's Banner CHK 1.34
1 Bladewing the Risen SC 1.34
4 Worship US 1.31
2 Overbeing of Myth EVE 1.28
1 Dragon Mage SC 1.25
2 Angelic Chorus US 1.25
1 Beacon of Tomorrows FD 1.19
1 Bringer of the White Dawn FD 1.19
1 Higure, the Still Wind BOK 1.14
3 Greater Good US 1.08
1 Ryusei, the Falling Star CHK 1.06
1 Bringer of the Black Dawn FD 1
1 Meloku the Clouded Mirror CHK 0.99
2 Intrepid Hero US 0.99
1 Ashling, the Extinguisher EVE 0.98
2 Helix Pinnacle EVE 0.98
1 Fist of Suns FD 0.98
2 Sunder US 0.98
1 Call to the Grave SC 0.95
1 General's Kabuto CHK 0.94
1 Joiner Adept FD 0.91
1 Door to Nothingness FD 0.89
1 Dawn Elemental SC 0.89
1 Bringer of the Red Dawn FD 0.88
1 Copper Gnomes US 0.88
3 Mishra's Helix US 0.88
1 Bringer of the Green Dawn FD 0.87
1 Godhead of Awe SHM 0.86
1 Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker BOK 0.86
1 Seshiro the Anointed CHK 0.85
1 Argothian Wurm US 0.85
4 Deity of Scars EVE 0.84
1 Cranial Extraction CHK 0.82
1 Myojin of Cleansing Fire CHK 0.82
1 Azami, Lady of Scrolls CHK 0.81
1 Day of the Dragons SC 0.8
1 Persecute US 0.8
1 Heartbeat of Spring CHK 0.79
1 Eiganjo Castle CHK 0.74
1 Time Stop CHK 0.74
1 Raksha Golden Cub FD 0.74
1 Crawlspace UL 0.72
1 Genju of the Realm BOK 0.71
4 Opal Archangel US 0.71
1 Godo, Bandit Warlord CHK 0.67
4 Nobilis of War EVE 0.65
1 Mirri, Cat Warrior EX 0.63
3 Shivan Hellkite US 0.61
1 Sensei Golden-Tail CHK 0.6
1 Might of Oaks UL 0.6
3 Brand US 0.59
1 Child of Gaea US 0.59
1 Soul Collector SC 0.56
1 Fumiko the Lowblood BOK 0.55
1 Kodama of the North Tree CHK 0.54
4 Sapling of Colfenor EVE 0.53
1 Citanul Hierophants US 0.53
2 Endless Horizons EVE 0.52
1 Eon Hub FD 0.52
1 Blasting Station FD 0.5
1 Springjack Pasture EVE 0.49
1 Decree of Annihilation SC 0.49
2 Aysen Crusader HL 0.49
3 Mindwrack Liege EVE 0.48
1 Earwig Squad MOR 0.48
1 Neko-Te BOK 0.48
4 Crater Hellion US 0.47
1 Kiku, Night's Flower CHK 0.46
1 Clearwater Goblet FD 0.46
1 Iron Maiden UL 0.45
1 Crackleburr EVE 0.44
1 Hurkyl's Recall R 0.44
1 Pit Spawn EX 0.42
1 Day of Destiny BOK 0.4
1 Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo BOK 0.4
1 Jushi Apprentice CHK 0.4
1 Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep CHK 0.4
1 Curiosity EX 0.4
1 Beacon of Destruction FD 0.39
1 Hokori, Dust Drinker BOK 0.38
1 Orochi Hatchery CHK 0.38
1 Summoning Station FD 0.38
3 Oppression US 0.38
4 Thunderblust EVE 0.37
1 Kentaro, the Smiling Cat BOK 0.37
1 Rude Awakening FD 0.36
1 Solarion FD 0.36
1 Decree of Silence SC 0.36
3 Abundance US 0.36
3 Wildfire US 0.36
4 Spitting Image EVE 0.35
2 Worm Harvest EVE 0.35
1 Masako the Humorless CHK 0.35
1 Myojin of Infinite Rage CHK 0.35
1 Lethal Vapors SC 0.35
3 Phyrexian Colossus US 0.35
1 Spellbook EX 0.35
2 Spinerock Knoll LRW 0.34
3 Purity LRW 0.33
3 Somnophore US 0.33
4 Whirlwind US 0.33
2 Varchild's War-Riders AL 0.33
3 Fable of Wolf and Owl EVE 0.32
2 Ward of Bones EVE 0.32
1 Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho CHK 0.31
1 Sand Silos FE 0.31
1 Isao, Enlightened Bushi BOK 0.29
1 Hall of the Bandit Lord CHK 0.29
1 Ancient Ooze SC 0.29
2 Waves of Aggression EVE 0.28
1 Retaliate FD 0.28
1 Orb of Dreams BOK 0.27
1 Decree of Savagery SC 0.27
1 Form of the Dragon SC 0.26
1 Skyshroud War Beast EX 0.26
3 Needle Specter EVE 0.25
2 Sigil Tracer MOR 0.25
1 Myojin of Seeing Winds CHK 0.25
1 Artificer's Intuition FD 0.25
1 Salvaging Station FD 0.25
1 Koskun Falls HL 0.25
1 Toshiro Umezawa BOK 0.24
1 Hidden Gibbons UL 0.24
1 Waiting in the Weeds MI 0.24
1 Game of Chaos IA 0.24
1 Patron of the Moon BOK 0.23
1 Long-Forgotten Gohei CHK 0.23
1 Grinding Station FD 0.23
1 Rite of Passage FD 0.23
2 Midsummer Revel US 0.23
1 Patron of the Kitsune BOK 0.22
1 Shizuko, Caller of Autumn BOK 0.22
1 Sakiko, Mother of Summer BOK 0.21
1 Delusions of Mediocrity UL 0.21
1 Chain Stasis HL 0.21
1 Enshrined Memories BOK 0.2
1 Dosan the Falling Leaf CHK 0.2
1 Parallel Thoughts SC 0.2
1 Wheel of Torture UL 0.2
2 Anaba Spirit Crafter HL 0.2
1 Beast Walkers HL 0.2
3 Nightmare Incursion EVE 0.19
1 Hero's Demise BOK 0.19
1 Kyoki, Sanity's Eclipse BOK 0.19
1 Sway of the Stars BOK 0.19
1 Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar BOK 0.19
1 Horobi, Death's Wail CHK 0.19
1 Night of Souls' Betrayal CHK 0.19
1 Razormane Masticore FD 0.19
1 Summoner's Egg FD 0.19
1 Nefashu SC 0.19
1 Blessed Reversal UL 0.19
1 Purify UL 0.19
1 Scrapheap UL 0.19
1 Second Chance UL 0.19
1 Shivan Phoenix UL 0.19
1 Urza's Blueprints UL 0.19
3 Hidden Stag US 0.19
4 Okk US 0.19
2 Western Paladin US 0.19
1 Oath of Ghouls EX 0.19
1 Thalakos Drifters EX 0.19
1 In the Web of War BOK 0.18
1 Patron of the Nezumi BOK 0.18
1 Kitsune Mystic CHK 0.18
1 Night Dealings CHK 0.18
1 Uyo, Silent Prophet CHK 0.18
1 Roar of Reclamation FD 0.18
1 Thran Weaponry UL 0.18
4 Imaginary Pet US 0.18
1 Exalted Dragon EX 0.18
1 Baku Altar BOK 0.17
1 Ornate Kanzashi BOK 0.17
1 Yomiji, Who Bars the Way BOK 0.17
1 Grip of Chaos SC 0.17
2 Knowledge Exploitation MOR 0.16
1 Ishi-Ishi, Akki Crackshot BOK 0.16
1 Akki Lavarunner CHK 0.16
1 Kuro, Pitlord CHK 0.16
1 Thran Lens UL 0.16
2 Congregate US 0.16
1 Duress US 0.16
1 Chisei, Heart of Oceans BOK 0.15
1 Nourishing Shoal BOK 0.15
1 Oyobi, Who Split the Heavens BOK 0.15
1 Patron of the Akki BOK 0.15
1 Twist Allegiance BOK 0.15
1 The Unspeakable CHK 0.15
1 Blinkmoth Infusion FD 0.15
1 Desecration Elemental FD 0.15
1 Ion Storm FD 0.15
1 Moriok Rigger FD 0.15
1 Whispersilk Cloak DS 0.15
1 Cabal Conditioning SC 0.15
1 Consumptive Goo SC 0.15
1 Mischievous Quanar SC 0.15
1 Trap Digger SC 0.15
1 Phyrexian Plaguelord UL 0.15
1 Aysen Highway HL 0.15
4 Narwhal HL 0.15
3 Glamerdye EVE 0.14
3 Hateflayer EVE 0.14
2 Umbra Stalker EVE 0.14
1 Ben-Ben, Akki Hermit CHK 0.14
1 Swirl the Mists CHK 0.14
1 Granulate FD 0.14
1 Spectral Shift FD 0.14
1 Suncrusher FD 0.14
1 Dimensional Breach SC 0.14
1 Primitive Etchings SC 0.14
1 Lurking Skirge UL 0.14
1 Abyssal Horror US 0.14
1 Mannichi, the Fevered Dream BOK 0.13
1 Reduce to Dreams BOK 0.13
1 Yukora, the Prisoner BOK 0.13
1 Hair-Strung Koto CHK 0.13
1 Kodama of the South Tree CHK 0.13
1 Reweave CHK 0.13
1 Uba Mask CHK 0.13
1 Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper CHK 0.13
1 Cosmic Larva FD 0.13
1 Magma Giant FD 0.13
1 Ageless Sentinels SC 0.13
1 Exiled Doomsayer SC 0.13
1 Faces of the Past SC 0.13
1 Fleeting Image UL 0.13
3 Mind Shatter MOR 0.12
1 Eyes of the Wisent LRW 0.12
1 Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked CHK 0.12
1 Moonring Mirror CHK 0.11
1 Possessed Portal FD 0.11
1 Reversal of Fortune FD 0.11
1 Clash of Realities BOK 0.1
1 Slumbering Tora BOK 0.1
1 Imi Statue CHK 0.1
1 Shisato, Whispering Hunter CHK 0.1
1 Hoverguard Sweepers FD 0.1
1 Keeper of the Mind EX 0.1
1 Gargantuan Gorilla AL 0.1
3 Duergar Hedge-Mage EVE 0.09
3 Fiery Bombardment EVE 0.09
1 Shrewd Hatchling EVE 0.09
1 Soot Imp EVE 0.09
1 Witherscale Wurm SHM 0.09
1 Mindblaze CHK 0.09
1 Part the Veil CHK 0.09
1 Reverse the Sands CHK 0.09
1 Vassal's Duty CHK 0.08
1 Conch Horn FE 0.08
1 Pegasus Charger US 0.05
3 Serra Zealot US 0.05
2 Goblin War Buggy US 0.04
1 Mind Maggots EX 0.04
2 Lay Waste US 0.02
1 Ravenous Skirge US 0.02
2 Raze US 0.02
vs Pile B
2 Imperial Recruiters, let's say English, nm.
Tcgplayer Low total: $430
vs Pile C
3 Underground Sea (R), nm.
Tcgplayer Low total: $324
So...what piles would you rather have, in order of preference? This is not a trick question, the number of pm's I've gotten regarding this type of trade
with what I consider a strange answer make me doubt my sanity.
P.S. Kiijin, I just read the rules, and sorry if this violates the 2. Piles of cards that are not easily calculated by a quick trip to eBay or other price guide, but I don't think it is a straight up $ comparison....or is it?! I think that very question is the underlying concern in my post ^^
A>B>C for me, but that's because I'm more content meddling around the middle of the pack than being in the big leagues. Pile A has infinitely more potential for value, but Pile B is hard to find. Pile C is fine, but not even close to A or B in my eyes. In short, Pile A has more value, but if you're able to dump Imperial Recruiters easily and for retail value, then B might not be a terrible choice.
Heya pw709, when I want your input, I'll ask for it - don't bring it on the forums. Since it appears you have been trying to sell off a bunch of jank rares for some time now perhaps you're a bit biased. Since it's such a no-brainer for you, I've got some thousands in jank rares just like these and will offer em to you at this same tradedown for say, imperial seals, P9. To further clarify - I don't 'need' anything at all, so you certainly misunderstood. Also, please refrain from pm'ing all the guys on my iTrader profile this time to ask who is my counterparty ok, if you want it so badly (no-brainer right) just ask me, I'd love to do you a service and let you have it ^^
To everybody else, I probably should have clarified and added in a choice of $400 of any combination of legacy staples to the list but I still think the answer should be obvious.
I would better get the 2 Imperial Recruiters in a heartbeat, they are legacy playable and the price would probably rise just like XiaHou Dun and Imperial Seal, and some other P3K cards.
The thing to consider about Recruiters is that they're extremely hard to move. How many decks run them, 2? Aluren and Painter Stone, and maybe a handful of EDH decks? There really is not a big market for them, so unless you're building something along those lines - and neither deck has shown itself to be very good in Legacy lately - I would probably just go for Pile A for sheer value and liquidity. Some of that stuff is also very hard to move, but the majority of it isn't, if you've got the resources and time to trade up.
Pile C is nice but is just too far down in value for me to consider.
I think the cash price you could move them for puts lot A a little bit ahead of lot B, but there is so much work involed with lot A I am not sure it is worth it.
I'd rather have your pile B here. The "junk" cards aren't all that easy to move either. Some of them are, but when you've got the amount of card stock that Dresden has, i'd rather take the hard to find staples.
as i only have 1 underground sea, i'd probably take C. but since you already have so many duals, dresden, i'm thinking B is a good choice. i don't like A because it's mostly just bulk + and unplayable cards (some of which are still liquid though), but B gives you a lot more value than C. i agree with malacoda that recruiters are hard to move, but i think you could get it done, and end up with more seas than pile C offers over time. or just keep them, recruiters are cool.
I would take Pile B because fetches are always tradable. The first pile does have Damnation which is an easy card to move, and while there is value in some of the other cards (darkslick/nirkana), they don't move quite as quickly as the Tarn, Mesa, and Flats. Isolated Chapel is also on the upswing and could be flipped quickly.
Garruck Relentless
Liliana of the Veil
2x Sun Titan
Ajani Goldmane
Mikaeus, the Lunarch
Woodland Cemetry
Heartless Summoning(foil)
A's more liquid, but B's got better value. I'd probably take B, although a lot of people are willing to trade for Mutavault at $30+ even though it's closer to $20 on eBay.
Pile A:
Vampiric Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Sen Triplets
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (foil)
Cairn Wanderer
Eldrazi Monument
Fauna Shaman
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mirri's Guile (HP, valued at 4$)
Pile B:
Jace the Mindsculptor
Value wise, pile A is in favor by around 5$. Usually the premium for JTMS trades is higher but we figured most of pile A is stable since they are EDH staples or cards that wont do anything but go up or stay the same. Let me know.
Pile A:
Vampiric Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Sen Triplets
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (foil)
Cairn Wanderer
Eldrazi Monument
Fauna Shaman
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mirri's Guile (HP, valued at 4$)
Pile B:
Jace the Mindsculptor
Value wise, pile A is in favor by around 5$. Usually the premium for JTMS trades is higher but we figured most of pile A is stable since they are EDH staples or cards that wont do anything but go up or stay the same. Let me know.
This seems like one of the no-brainer variety. Jace vs a bunch of $5 cards and a Vampiric Tutor, with only a 10% "trade-up" premium? Jace is definitely the play here.
In summation.....Star Trek wins a prolonged naval battle against superior, yet less technologically advanced, numbers, with Picard leading the assault, while Kirk takes your soul by laying out Solo and probably his manservant Chewy as well, before impregnating and ditching your Princess.
Pile A:
Vampiric Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Sen Triplets
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (foil)
Cairn Wanderer
Eldrazi Monument
Fauna Shaman
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mirri's Guile (HP, valued at 4$)
Pile B:
Jace the Mindsculptor
Value wise, pile A is in favor by around 5$. Usually the premium for JTMS trades is higher but we figured most of pile A is stable since they are EDH staples or cards that wont do anything but go up or stay the same. Let me know.
Jace by a mile unless you need each and everyone of those other cards for a deck and have a spare jace kicking around and want to do your buddy a solid.
Pile A:
2x Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
1x Kira, Great Glass Spinner
1x Dark Depths
1x Gideon Jura
1x Gifts Ungiven
1x Champion of the Parish
1x Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Pile B:
1x Foil Snapcaster Mage
1x Mind over Matter
Pile A seems to be loosing a little value, I'm curious!
B, eternal pimps will always want foil snappies so it will hold value even if he gets the dual deck treatment the rest is anywhere from niche to fun to play to eh. Now if the dark depths were a foil it might be a different story.
Tough choice I could go either way but I think I'd land on A at the moment since its a standard card in addition to being good for EDH and thus has a larger potential trade market.
Tough call. WU are good colors in general, while green is an add on color. Geist would be the better General, but Azusa allows for some pretty fun mana accel.
I would pick Azusa. She was printed premythic, and, I think, a lot harder to find.
So I went to one my LGS to do some trades and make a little cash. What do you guys think?
Trade #1
My
Ratchet Bomb
RuneChanter's Pike
for His
StromKirk Noble
Geist Honored Monk
Seemed pretty fair according to SCG prices
Then Trade 2
My
2x Priest of Titania
2x Parallel Lives
Chandra Nalaar
for
his
Jace, Memory Adept
Tree of Redemption
Hex Parasite
Trade 2.5
and
Parallel Lives
Mimic Vat
for
Mikaeus Lunarch
and a few commons/uncommons
Delver of Secrets
and Trade 3
My Mox Opal
Void
Commander Eesha
for
Sacred Foundry
Isolated Chapel
I also Sold
Sale 1
Karn Liberated x 2 for $15.00
WoodFall Primes $7.00
Total of $22, I wish I had got like $3-4 more for this.
and
Sale 2
Solemn Simulacrum
Winding Canyons
$10
Aside from the Karn's being undervalued, I feel I did okay. I wish I had gone by TCGplayers low price for that sell, which would've netted me $3-$4 more.
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3. trades that are not obviously one party ripping off the other (no bragging)
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Pile A
350 unique rares, some in multiple quantities, almost all are from shadowmoor/lorwyn blocks, some from urza saga, some fifth dawn/darksteel/mirrodin. Only 10 cards are worth more than $6 tcgplayer low value:
2 Door of Destinies, 1 Divinity of Pride, 1 Kokusho, the Evening Star, 2 Darksteel Forge, 1 Mycosynth Golem, 2 Cryptic Command, 1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker.
That is it, the rest are <$6, and there should be almost no other cards in here that are legacy staples in any tier 1.5+ legacy deck.
Tcgplayer Low total: $710.83
(if I deleted all cards under $2, the value would be $485.46 )
Full list of cards with tcgplayer low values in spoiler below, sorted by $ value descending
1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker CFX 11.99
2 Cryptic Command LRW 11.97
1 Mycosynth Golem FD 9.47
2 Darksteel Forge DS 8.54
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star CHK 7.31
1 Divinity of Pride EVE 6.43
2 Door of Destinies MOR 6.29
4 Creakwood Liege EVE 5.83
3 Figure of Destiny EVE 5.68
4 Liliana Vess LRW 5.68
4 Deathbringer Liege EVE 5.5
1 Staff of Domination FD 5.49
3 Morphling US 5.49
4 Demigod of Revenge SHM 5.39
1 Mephidross Vampire FD 5.36
4 Vigor LRW 4.96
1 Phyrexian Tower US 4.82
2 Greater Auramancy SHM 4.55
1 Yosei, the Morning Star CHK 4.49
4 Stillmoon Cavalier EVE 4.26
2 Wilt-Leaf Liege SHM 4.2
2 Ajani Goldmane LRW 4.19
2 Necroskitter EVE 4
2 Jace Beleren LRW 3.99
1 Decree of Pain SC 3.98
1 Deranged Hermit UL 3.8
4 Murkfiend Liege EVE 3.72
1 Vedalken Orrery FD 3.55
3 Garruk Wildspeaker LRW 3.49
2 Balefire Liege EVE 3.45
1 Radiant, Archangel UL 3.41
1 No Mercy UL 3.32
3 Karn, Silver Golem US 3.3
1 Coat of Arms EX 3.19
1 Marrow-Gnawer CHK 3.14
1 Auriok Champion FD 3.05
1 Tinker UL 2.99
1 Eight-and-a-Half-Tails CHK 2.98
1 Sliver Overlord SC 2.98
1 Panoptic Mirror DS 2.95
2 Preeminent Captain MOR 2.84
2 Primalcrux EVE 2.8
1 Helm of Kaldra FD 2.8
4 Timber Protector LRW 2.75
1 Pristine Angel DS 2.74
4 Doran, the Siege Tower LRW 2.69
1 Memory Jar UL 2.53
4 Thran Quarry US 2.48
1 That Which Was Taken BOK 2.45
1 Quicksilver Amulet UL 2.45
1 Decree of Justice SC 2.39
3 Talara's Battalion EVE 2.37
2 Beacon of Immortality FD 2.37
1 Nezumi Shortfang CHK 2.35
1 Dragon Tyrant SC 2.35
1 Masticore UD 2.33
1 Mirror Gallery BOK 2.24
1 Platinum Angel MR 2.14
1 Scarecrone EVE 2.08
2 Catastrophe US 2
3 Contamination US 1.99
1 Winter Orb 4E 1.99
1 Bringer of the Blue Dawn FD 1.95
1 Myojin of Life's Web CHK 1.9
2 Doubling Cube FD 1.9
1 Forgotten Ancient SC 1.9
1 Leeches HL 1.88
1 Beacon of Unrest FD 1.86
2 Austere Command LRW 1.81
1 Raven Guild Master SC 1.8
1 Hallowed Burial EVE 1.79
1 Kinsbaile Cavalier MOR 1.79
1 Jugan, the Rising Star CHK 1.79
1 Konda, Lord of Eiganjo CHK 1.79
1 Beacon of Creation FD 1.79
1 Ambush Commander SC 1.79
4 Glorious Anthem US 1.79
1 Silent Arbiter FD 1.75
1 Dragonstorm SC 1.75
3 Pariah US 1.75
3 Bloom Tender EVE 1.69
1 Journeyer's Kite CHK 1.66
4 Phyrexian Processor US 1.61
3 Wren's Run Packmaster LRW 1.53
1 Tatsumasa, the Dragon's Fang CHK 1.52
4 Lightning Dragon US 1.51
1 Final Judgment BOK 1.47
1 Patron of the Orochi BOK 1.43
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse CHK 1.43
2 Sanity Grinding EVE 1.39
2 Rise of the Hobgoblins EVE 1.38
3 Grimoire Thief MOR 1.35
2 Stigma Lasher EVE 1.34
1 Konda's Banner CHK 1.34
1 Bladewing the Risen SC 1.34
4 Worship US 1.31
2 Overbeing of Myth EVE 1.28
1 Dragon Mage SC 1.25
2 Angelic Chorus US 1.25
1 Beacon of Tomorrows FD 1.19
1 Bringer of the White Dawn FD 1.19
1 Higure, the Still Wind BOK 1.14
3 Greater Good US 1.08
1 Ryusei, the Falling Star CHK 1.06
1 Bringer of the Black Dawn FD 1
1 Meloku the Clouded Mirror CHK 0.99
2 Intrepid Hero US 0.99
1 Ashling, the Extinguisher EVE 0.98
2 Helix Pinnacle EVE 0.98
1 Fist of Suns FD 0.98
2 Sunder US 0.98
1 Call to the Grave SC 0.95
1 General's Kabuto CHK 0.94
1 Joiner Adept FD 0.91
1 Door to Nothingness FD 0.89
1 Dawn Elemental SC 0.89
1 Bringer of the Red Dawn FD 0.88
1 Copper Gnomes US 0.88
3 Mishra's Helix US 0.88
1 Bringer of the Green Dawn FD 0.87
1 Godhead of Awe SHM 0.86
1 Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker BOK 0.86
1 Seshiro the Anointed CHK 0.85
1 Argothian Wurm US 0.85
4 Deity of Scars EVE 0.84
1 Cranial Extraction CHK 0.82
1 Myojin of Cleansing Fire CHK 0.82
1 Azami, Lady of Scrolls CHK 0.81
1 Day of the Dragons SC 0.8
1 Persecute US 0.8
1 Heartbeat of Spring CHK 0.79
1 Eiganjo Castle CHK 0.74
1 Time Stop CHK 0.74
1 Raksha Golden Cub FD 0.74
1 Crawlspace UL 0.72
1 Genju of the Realm BOK 0.71
4 Opal Archangel US 0.71
1 Godo, Bandit Warlord CHK 0.67
4 Nobilis of War EVE 0.65
1 Mirri, Cat Warrior EX 0.63
3 Shivan Hellkite US 0.61
1 Sensei Golden-Tail CHK 0.6
1 Might of Oaks UL 0.6
3 Brand US 0.59
1 Child of Gaea US 0.59
1 Soul Collector SC 0.56
1 Fumiko the Lowblood BOK 0.55
1 Kodama of the North Tree CHK 0.54
4 Sapling of Colfenor EVE 0.53
1 Citanul Hierophants US 0.53
2 Endless Horizons EVE 0.52
1 Eon Hub FD 0.52
1 Blasting Station FD 0.5
1 Springjack Pasture EVE 0.49
1 Decree of Annihilation SC 0.49
2 Aysen Crusader HL 0.49
3 Mindwrack Liege EVE 0.48
1 Earwig Squad MOR 0.48
1 Neko-Te BOK 0.48
4 Crater Hellion US 0.47
1 Kiku, Night's Flower CHK 0.46
1 Clearwater Goblet FD 0.46
1 Iron Maiden UL 0.45
1 Crackleburr EVE 0.44
1 Hurkyl's Recall R 0.44
1 Pit Spawn EX 0.42
1 Day of Destiny BOK 0.4
1 Opal-Eye, Konda's Yojimbo BOK 0.4
1 Jushi Apprentice CHK 0.4
1 Shinka, the Bloodsoaked Keep CHK 0.4
1 Curiosity EX 0.4
1 Beacon of Destruction FD 0.39
1 Hokori, Dust Drinker BOK 0.38
1 Orochi Hatchery CHK 0.38
1 Summoning Station FD 0.38
3 Oppression US 0.38
4 Thunderblust EVE 0.37
1 Kentaro, the Smiling Cat BOK 0.37
1 Rude Awakening FD 0.36
1 Solarion FD 0.36
1 Decree of Silence SC 0.36
3 Abundance US 0.36
3 Wildfire US 0.36
4 Spitting Image EVE 0.35
2 Worm Harvest EVE 0.35
1 Masako the Humorless CHK 0.35
1 Myojin of Infinite Rage CHK 0.35
1 Lethal Vapors SC 0.35
3 Phyrexian Colossus US 0.35
1 Spellbook EX 0.35
2 Spinerock Knoll LRW 0.34
3 Purity LRW 0.33
3 Somnophore US 0.33
4 Whirlwind US 0.33
2 Varchild's War-Riders AL 0.33
3 Fable of Wolf and Owl EVE 0.32
2 Ward of Bones EVE 0.32
1 Oathkeeper, Takeno's Daisho CHK 0.31
1 Sand Silos FE 0.31
1 Isao, Enlightened Bushi BOK 0.29
1 Hall of the Bandit Lord CHK 0.29
1 Ancient Ooze SC 0.29
2 Waves of Aggression EVE 0.28
1 Retaliate FD 0.28
1 Orb of Dreams BOK 0.27
1 Decree of Savagery SC 0.27
1 Form of the Dragon SC 0.26
1 Skyshroud War Beast EX 0.26
3 Needle Specter EVE 0.25
2 Sigil Tracer MOR 0.25
1 Myojin of Seeing Winds CHK 0.25
1 Artificer's Intuition FD 0.25
1 Salvaging Station FD 0.25
1 Koskun Falls HL 0.25
1 Toshiro Umezawa BOK 0.24
1 Hidden Gibbons UL 0.24
1 Waiting in the Weeds MI 0.24
1 Game of Chaos IA 0.24
1 Patron of the Moon BOK 0.23
1 Long-Forgotten Gohei CHK 0.23
1 Grinding Station FD 0.23
1 Rite of Passage FD 0.23
2 Midsummer Revel US 0.23
1 Patron of the Kitsune BOK 0.22
1 Shizuko, Caller of Autumn BOK 0.22
1 Sakiko, Mother of Summer BOK 0.21
1 Delusions of Mediocrity UL 0.21
1 Chain Stasis HL 0.21
1 Enshrined Memories BOK 0.2
1 Dosan the Falling Leaf CHK 0.2
1 Parallel Thoughts SC 0.2
1 Wheel of Torture UL 0.2
2 Anaba Spirit Crafter HL 0.2
1 Beast Walkers HL 0.2
3 Nightmare Incursion EVE 0.19
1 Hero's Demise BOK 0.19
1 Kyoki, Sanity's Eclipse BOK 0.19
1 Sway of the Stars BOK 0.19
1 Tomorrow, Azami's Familiar BOK 0.19
1 Horobi, Death's Wail CHK 0.19
1 Night of Souls' Betrayal CHK 0.19
1 Razormane Masticore FD 0.19
1 Summoner's Egg FD 0.19
1 Nefashu SC 0.19
1 Blessed Reversal UL 0.19
1 Purify UL 0.19
1 Scrapheap UL 0.19
1 Second Chance UL 0.19
1 Shivan Phoenix UL 0.19
1 Urza's Blueprints UL 0.19
3 Hidden Stag US 0.19
4 Okk US 0.19
2 Western Paladin US 0.19
1 Oath of Ghouls EX 0.19
1 Thalakos Drifters EX 0.19
1 In the Web of War BOK 0.18
1 Patron of the Nezumi BOK 0.18
1 Kitsune Mystic CHK 0.18
1 Night Dealings CHK 0.18
1 Uyo, Silent Prophet CHK 0.18
1 Roar of Reclamation FD 0.18
1 Thran Weaponry UL 0.18
4 Imaginary Pet US 0.18
1 Exalted Dragon EX 0.18
1 Baku Altar BOK 0.17
1 Ornate Kanzashi BOK 0.17
1 Yomiji, Who Bars the Way BOK 0.17
1 Grip of Chaos SC 0.17
2 Knowledge Exploitation MOR 0.16
1 Ishi-Ishi, Akki Crackshot BOK 0.16
1 Akki Lavarunner CHK 0.16
1 Kuro, Pitlord CHK 0.16
1 Thran Lens UL 0.16
2 Congregate US 0.16
1 Duress US 0.16
1 Chisei, Heart of Oceans BOK 0.15
1 Nourishing Shoal BOK 0.15
1 Oyobi, Who Split the Heavens BOK 0.15
1 Patron of the Akki BOK 0.15
1 Twist Allegiance BOK 0.15
1 The Unspeakable CHK 0.15
1 Blinkmoth Infusion FD 0.15
1 Desecration Elemental FD 0.15
1 Ion Storm FD 0.15
1 Moriok Rigger FD 0.15
1 Whispersilk Cloak DS 0.15
1 Cabal Conditioning SC 0.15
1 Consumptive Goo SC 0.15
1 Mischievous Quanar SC 0.15
1 Trap Digger SC 0.15
1 Phyrexian Plaguelord UL 0.15
1 Aysen Highway HL 0.15
4 Narwhal HL 0.15
3 Glamerdye EVE 0.14
3 Hateflayer EVE 0.14
2 Umbra Stalker EVE 0.14
1 Ben-Ben, Akki Hermit CHK 0.14
1 Swirl the Mists CHK 0.14
1 Granulate FD 0.14
1 Spectral Shift FD 0.14
1 Suncrusher FD 0.14
1 Dimensional Breach SC 0.14
1 Primitive Etchings SC 0.14
1 Lurking Skirge UL 0.14
1 Abyssal Horror US 0.14
1 Mannichi, the Fevered Dream BOK 0.13
1 Reduce to Dreams BOK 0.13
1 Yukora, the Prisoner BOK 0.13
1 Hair-Strung Koto CHK 0.13
1 Kodama of the South Tree CHK 0.13
1 Reweave CHK 0.13
1 Uba Mask CHK 0.13
1 Untaidake, the Cloud Keeper CHK 0.13
1 Cosmic Larva FD 0.13
1 Magma Giant FD 0.13
1 Ageless Sentinels SC 0.13
1 Exiled Doomsayer SC 0.13
1 Faces of the Past SC 0.13
1 Fleeting Image UL 0.13
3 Mind Shatter MOR 0.12
1 Eyes of the Wisent LRW 0.12
1 Shimatsu the Bloodcloaked CHK 0.12
1 Moonring Mirror CHK 0.11
1 Possessed Portal FD 0.11
1 Reversal of Fortune FD 0.11
1 Clash of Realities BOK 0.1
1 Slumbering Tora BOK 0.1
1 Imi Statue CHK 0.1
1 Shisato, Whispering Hunter CHK 0.1
1 Hoverguard Sweepers FD 0.1
1 Keeper of the Mind EX 0.1
1 Gargantuan Gorilla AL 0.1
3 Duergar Hedge-Mage EVE 0.09
3 Fiery Bombardment EVE 0.09
1 Shrewd Hatchling EVE 0.09
1 Soot Imp EVE 0.09
1 Witherscale Wurm SHM 0.09
1 Mindblaze CHK 0.09
1 Part the Veil CHK 0.09
1 Reverse the Sands CHK 0.09
1 Vassal's Duty CHK 0.08
1 Conch Horn FE 0.08
1 Pegasus Charger US 0.05
3 Serra Zealot US 0.05
2 Goblin War Buggy US 0.04
1 Mind Maggots EX 0.04
2 Lay Waste US 0.02
1 Ravenous Skirge US 0.02
2 Raze US 0.02
Pile B
2 Imperial Recruiters, let's say English, nm.
Tcgplayer Low total: $430
vs
Pile C
3 Underground Sea (R), nm.
Tcgplayer Low total: $324
So...what piles would you rather have, in order of preference? This is not a trick question, the number of pm's I've gotten regarding this type of trade
with what I consider a strange answer make me doubt my sanity.
P.S. Kiijin, I just read the rules, and sorry if this violates the 2. Piles of cards that are not easily calculated by a quick trip to eBay or other price guide, but I don't think it is a straight up $ comparison....or is it?! I think that very question is the underlying concern in my post ^^
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=341469
To everybody else, I probably should have clarified and added in a choice of $400 of any combination of legacy staples to the list but I still think the answer should be obvious.
Flame Infraction
B>A>C
EDH: Xenagos, God of Revels.
Pile C is nice but is just too far down in value for me to consider.
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
Damnation
Dragonskull Summit
Rootbound Crag
Darkslick Shore
Nirkana Revenant
Pile B:
Scalding Tarn
Marsh Flats
Arid Mesa
Gavony Township
Moorland Haunt
Isolated Chapel
EDH:
Experiment Kraj
Ulasht, the Hate Seed
Balthor the Defiled
Pround owner of a C/Ube
I would take Pile B because fetches are always tradable. The first pile does have Damnation which is an easy card to move, and while there is value in some of the other cards (darkslick/nirkana), they don't move quite as quickly as the Tarn, Mesa, and Flats. Isolated Chapel is also on the upswing and could be flipped quickly.
Mutavault
Vampire Nocturnus(promo)
Stoneforge Mystic
2x Preeminent Captain
1x Preeminent Captain(foil)
Pile B
Garruck Relentless
Liliana of the Veil
2x Sun Titan
Ajani Goldmane
Mikaeus, the Lunarch
Woodland Cemetry
Heartless Summoning(foil)
EDH: Xenagos, God of Revels.
Pile A.
While dollars may be in favor of B MAYBE, A is much harder to get hands on and is more stable.
Selling domain "walkingtheplanes.com"- PM me with serious inquiries.
Thanks to Sioux for the Sig!
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Deck Tech:
UDagon's Fish N ChipsU
A's more liquid, but B's got better value. I'd probably take B, although a lot of people are willing to trade for Mutavault at $30+ even though it's closer to $20 on eBay.
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
Pile A:
Vampiric Tutor
Demonic Tutor
Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
Sen Triplets
Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (foil)
Cairn Wanderer
Eldrazi Monument
Fauna Shaman
Ethersworn Adjudicator
Mirri's Guile (HP, valued at 4$)
Pile B:
Jace the Mindsculptor
Value wise, pile A is in favor by around 5$. Usually the premium for JTMS trades is higher but we figured most of pile A is stable since they are EDH staples or cards that wont do anything but go up or stay the same. Let me know.
Wanted Card List: (PM me)
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
1 Ravages of War
1 Swords to Plowshares (Judge)
1 Land Tax (Judge)
U
1 Mana Vortex
B
1 Desolation Angel (Foil)
1 Guardian Beast
1 Contamination
R
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
G
1 Food Chain
WUBRG
1 Rohgahh of Kher Keep
X
1 Charcoal Diamond (Foil)
1 Fellwar Stone (Foil)
T
1 Temple Garden (Foil)
3 Mutavault
1 Kor Haven
I'd rather just have Jace, who I can trade for staples or pretty much anything at a solid value pretty quickly.
Legacy Decks:
Legendary Maverick GW
This seems like one of the no-brainer variety. Jace vs a bunch of $5 cards and a Vampiric Tutor, with only a 10% "trade-up" premium? Jace is definitely the play here.
Pile A:
2x Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
1x Kira, Great Glass Spinner
1x Dark Depths
1x Gideon Jura
1x Gifts Ungiven
1x Champion of the Parish
1x Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Pile B:
1x Foil Snapcaster Mage
1x Mind over Matter
Pile A seems to be loosing a little value, I'm curious!
Clicking on the Picture will lead you to my Trade Thread
My Decks
Standard
WW~Tempered Steel~WW
EDH:
UU~Azami, Lady of Scrolls~UU
BUG~Damia, Sage of Stone~BUG
WW~Khemba, Kha Ragent~WW
Pile B: Foil Azuza, Lost but seeking
I have until friday to take the trade (i own the geist)
My trade thread: http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=379815
Jace by a mile unless you need each and everyone of those other cards for a deck and have a spare jace kicking around and want to do your buddy a solid.
B, eternal pimps will always want foil snappies so it will hold value even if he gets the dual deck treatment the rest is anywhere from niche to fun to play to eh. Now if the dark depths were a foil it might be a different story.
Tough choice I could go either way but I think I'd land on A at the moment since its a standard card in addition to being good for EDH and thus has a larger potential trade market.
Currently looking to buy miscut Homelands, (my wife thinks I'm crazy too).
Semper Gumby (Always Flexible)
Tough call. WU are good colors in general, while green is an add on color. Geist would be the better General, but Azusa allows for some pretty fun mana accel.
I would pick Azusa. She was printed premythic, and, I think, a lot harder to find.
Azusa. She's actually stable.
Lands WUBG
EDH:
Doran WBG
So I went to one my LGS to do some trades and make a little cash. What do you guys think?
Trade #1
My
Ratchet Bomb
RuneChanter's Pike
for His
StromKirk Noble
Geist Honored Monk
Seemed pretty fair according to SCG prices
Then Trade 2
My
2x Priest of Titania
2x Parallel Lives
Chandra Nalaar
for
his
Jace, Memory Adept
Tree of Redemption
Hex Parasite
Trade 2.5
and
Parallel Lives
Mimic Vat
for
Mikaeus Lunarch
and a few commons/uncommons
Delver of Secrets
and Trade 3
My Mox Opal
Void
Commander Eesha
for
Sacred Foundry
Isolated Chapel
I also Sold
Sale 1
Karn Liberated x 2 for $15.00
WoodFall Primes $7.00
Total of $22, I wish I had got like $3-4 more for this.
and
Sale 2
Solemn Simulacrum
Winding Canyons
$10
Aside from the Karn's being undervalued, I feel I did okay. I wish I had gone by TCGplayers low price for that sell, which would've netted me $3-$4 more.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409478