resto on tusk is insanity in agg mirrors...if naya pod becomes THE deck, and i think this interaction will make it so, tusk will stay above 10...pretty good for a rare...
"Resto on Thrag" is decent, not "insanity" IMO. It's not a great way to get a 3/3 token, nor is it an efficient way of gaining 5 life. It is, however, at least moderately synergistic. I think the best part about it is that both cards are extremely splashable (although it's 9 mana so you have to split it up over multiple turns).
I repriced the entire set (again) but there wasn't enough movement in the top cards to justify a full update of the tally. I'd like to mention that Talrand, Sky Summoner is doing fairly well at 4.50 and perhaps pushing to $5. As a non-reprint it's got potential, but as a Legendary it's got a reason to stay down. I really don't see instants or sorceries as rare in blue decks and imagine he could be used to pump out 2/2 fliers pretty abusively... like at least one per turn, sometimes more, for free.
The M10 duals have been reprinted multiple times now, but remain nearly valuable enough to make the tally. In order of value from $2.50 to $2, we have Drowned Catacomb, Glacial Fortress, Sunpetal Grove, Dragonskull Summit, Rootbound Crag.
Sands of Delirium feels undervalued at 50c to me. At various times over the years, even the horribly over-printed Millstone was worth $3 and up. Sands is almost always the better card, often by quite a bit.
Diabolic Revelation is another that confuses me. Searching the library for a card is 5 mana now (usually with a tiny bonus), and this only costs you more for the opportunity to pay to search up additional cards. Some deck that generates a pile of mana quickly would be able to use this card to combo out whatever they needed to lock the game up. If nothing else, I see casual and certain older formats wanting these in the long run. Disturbing to see it being given away free (playsets for 99c).
The top uncommons are: Augur of Bolas, Jace's Phantasm, Reliquary Tower, and Rancor at $1. Tormod's Crypt and Vampire Nighthawk are at 75c.
Speaking of Reliquary Tower, most sellers have it at $3 to $5. HUH!? *checking the rarity* Yup, it's an uncommon, not a mythic! What gives? I sold through my Conflux supply at 40c each (shipped) in about a year and a half. Now that they're reprinted, they're worth TEN TIMES as much?
The Knights of Infamy and Glory seem like duds, but I thought they were quite strong looking. They may not be Stromgald Crusader, but they're more splashable and exalted is no trivial ability.
Many reprints have dropped down to silly prices, like Planar Cleansing and Quirion Dryad at $1 shipped.
I've got to say that a lot of reprints in this set seem like bad or weird choices. But a lot of the new cards are quite nice and well-designed. I think the design team did a good job and the reprint-picking team not so much.
Speaking of Reliquary Tower, most sellers have it at $3 to $5. HUH!? *checking the rarity* Yup, it's an uncommon, not a mythic! What gives? I sold through my Conflux supply at 40c each (shipped) in about a year and a half. Now that they're reprinted, they're worth TEN TIMES as much?
Tower has been a $3 card for nearly a year now, reprint will actually bring that price down. Reprint didn't make it worth "ten times as much", instead it's now worth 1/3 as much.
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Tower has been a $3 card for nearly a year now, reprint will actually bring that price down. Reprint didn't make it worth "ten times as much", instead it's now worth 1/3 as much.
100+ available on tcgplayer at $1.50 or less.....
To be clear, Im agreeing with the quoted poster, now for the explanation:
Ive been selling these like crazy (long before it was announced as being reprinted) for $3 for months if not closer to a year now. Its probably in the top 10 of most commonly asked for cards by EDH players. Sure, they were cheap when they were in print (.50 back then), once they went out of print, they began to rise, slowly but steadily. Up to $1, then $1.50, and on up until it hit $3 or so, and its been solidly there for at least the entirety of this year if my memory serves me correctly. Now that its being reprinted, its price being cut in 1/2 isnt a huge shocker to me, but it certainly hasnt gone UP from before it was announced as a reprint. This set is full of quality EDH reprints, and the like, and while thankfully I didnt have a ton of most of them, in the end its a good thing, because it does add that additional supply to the market so that I can make sure to have the cards on hand for the players looking for them, and it makes them cheaper, so more players will be willing to buy them. It makes the old copies I do have worth less, but eh, thats just the nature of things, gotta take the ups with the downs.
I double checked the going pre-sales rates for the set, and theres been no change on the average box value from my last post, so nothing too crazy going on there thus far. Will be lots more to tell once the set actually comes out.
Yes, I'm aware Reliquary Tower went up after I sold out at 40c about a year and a half ago. But even though it's been reprinted now, it's STILL going for $5 each in many places. That's above the price of ultimate-chase-uncommons like Isochron Scepter. The card does very little (Spellbook has never been playable even at :0mana:) and waters down your mana base as well. I've got it at $1 shipped and yet nobody is buying even a single copy, which tells me it's still got a long way to fall. Anyone buying this at $3 needs to give their head a shake IMO.
"sublime archangel, liliana of the dark realms, or thundermaw hellkite"
I'd say they all have a good chance of going up, because they're not reprints, they're mythic, and they're the only money cards in the set. This pushes up their value because fewer boxes are opened (nobody wants a box full of junk and maybe one $20 card). Hellkite is red, though, so it's likely to be the one to fall most.
Yes, I'm aware Reliquary Tower went up after I sold out at 40c about a year and a half ago. But even though it's been reprinted now, it's STILL going for $5 each in many places. That's above the price of ultimate-chase-uncommons like Isochron Scepter. The card does very little (Spellbook has never been playable even at :0mana:) and waters down your mana base as well. I've got it at $1 shipped and yet nobody is buying even a single copy, which tells me it's still got a long way to fall. Anyone buying this at $3 needs to give their head a shake IMO.
"sublime archangel, liliana of the dark realms, or thundermaw hellkite"
I'd say they all have a good chance of going up, because they're not reprints, they're mythic, and they're the only money cards in the set. This pushes up their value because fewer boxes are opened (nobody wants a box full of junk and maybe one $20 card). Hellkite is red, though, so it's likely to be the one to fall most.
Fair enough, and a land that taps for colorless, comes into play untapped, and gives an effect like no maximum hand size is considered good by a lot of people, and especially when you consider that it had only been printed once, in a set that wasnt openned as much as more recent sets (prior to the take-off in demand starting with m10). Spellbook may be a zero cost artifact, but its an artifact, allowing it to be blown up much easier, its a spell, thus it can be countered. Its not a land so certain mass removal affects like O-Stone will blow it up, and it was reprinted several times. Reliquary tower plain and simply is better than spellbook 90% of the time. After things settle down, I suspect the tower will end up at around $1, still a solid price for a standard uncommon thats not seeing any real standard play.
As for the three cards mentioned, I like all three for different reasons, however I have a feeling that none of them will likely retain their current value. I see them all being solid $10 cards long-term. And Liliana will likely remain higher than the others for longer simply due to casual demand. Mono Black is by far the most popular mono-color deck type for casual players. Ive allready had a ton of people inquiring about it, and Ive been selling through mono-black staple cards a ton of late (Even before liliana was spoiled.)
Yes, I'm aware Reliquary Tower went up after I sold out at 40c about a year and a half ago. But even though it's been reprinted now, it's STILL going for $5 each in many places. That's above the price of ultimate-chase-uncommons like Isochron Scepter. The card does very little (Spellbook has never been playable even at :0mana:) and waters down your mana base as well. I've got it at $1 shipped and yet nobody is buying even a single copy, which tells me it's still got a long way to fall. Anyone buying this at $3 needs to give their head a shake IMO.
"sublime archangel, liliana of the dark realms, or thundermaw hellkite"
I'd say they all have a good chance of going up, because they're not reprints, they're mythic, and they're the only money cards in the set. This pushes up their value because fewer boxes are opened (nobody wants a box full of junk and maybe one $20 card). Hellkite is red, though, so it's likely to be the one to fall most.
Edh isn't standard or even legacy. You can play several colorless producing lands and not hurt your manabase too much. You're talking about a format where entwined tooth and nails are *small* casting cost-wise. Having no limit on your hand size in edh is a huge advantage(not "very little") and rarely is not worth taking the land's drawbacks.
Because conservative bias is a far, far worse thing. Liberal bias doesn't, statistically speaking, make people stupid. Conservative bias (or at least Fox's version of it) does.
Any idea why Redirect is so popular now?
It's one of my favorite spells, and I've always loved it,
but I've noticed the M13 foils keep selling out on SCG.
This kind of surprises me, as most of the sold out items are new cards.
Any clue as to why this third-print card is selling so hotly right now?
Good catch on the movement here- it sounds like it's showing up in the MTGO PTQ today.
The big 4 should maintain a 20$ price point for awhile. Reasons for this are quite simple:
The set is going to be under opened. People are unhappy with it and when people (like myself) who normally buy a box or two of product simply opt to buy a few key cards and skip the rest, that hurts supply bad. Further, it means that people who do open a box and only get 1 $10+ card from an entire box (which will happen a lot), they won't want to part with it for such a low price. So inevitably we'll see these 4 cards command a higher price than they should justify.
For the cards specifically:
Rotation is taking away all the most usable creatures in standard at the 5+ drop range except Silverheart and even most of our best 4 drops. That is a huge void to fill. Both the dragon and angel fall right into existing strategies in standard and the dragon specifically combats lingering souls. On top of that, dragons and angels are collectable on their own.
Ajani will fall a bit because no planeswalker these days holds 30$ price points long however, a turn 2 or 3 planeswalker that has 5 loyalty is something we haven't seen before and it also recurs with sun titan. This guy could actually see play. regardless, he will remain 20$+ for awhile.
Liliana fits mono black control perfectly and it seems that archetype is going to be pushed. Further, she works extremely well with the shocklands which are likely going to be reprinted.
I really can't see these cards falling significantly. People are excited about them and pros are excited about them. Granted, that merely creates hype but enough hype combined with enough supply shortage will cause a price spike followed by price memory for the following year.
Jeff, I understand the differences between lands and artifacts, and that each has pros and cons. My main point is that Reliquary Tower can't maintain the $3 to $5 price tag it currently has. I have it at $1 shipped and it isn't moving. I realize I'm not a large site so I can't predict the broad market with my small sampling of data, but I'm willing to sell out at that price if someone wants to do so. I think in a few months it will be 50c.
Jedi - Thanks. I know nothing about EDH, and I mean literally nothing. I don't even know what it stands for, how it's played, or what cards are legal in it. I'm completely out of touch with it. Well, I do know one thing - it has made previously unplayable stuff playable. And that's a good thing.
Of the three cards Archangel has the most room to grow. I've tested with the card and it was pretty much game over if I get to untap with it. I tested it in a g/w shell with mana accelator, silverblade paladin, wolfir silverheart, and revenge of the hunted. I can see the card going to $25.
Thundermaw hellkite is good but is only great in mono red. But even in red it faces stiff competition from zealout conscript. So I see it going to $15.
Liliana is just a below average planeswalks that will more often than not be a 4 mana sorcery speed removal. I see this ending up below $10.
Good with rancor or the exalted attacker would just be chumped all day. Might work with invisible stalker too. I would still rather untapped with hero of bladehold tho...
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I would say Sublime Archangel. Hero of Bladehold is leaving soon and this card may replace it somehow. Actually, it may even be used as a kind of "Titan" lone killer. I mean, it alone hits for 5... If you play another one, you hit for 8 in the same turn. I see a great potential for its price to rise.
Thundermaw Hellkite: For casuals: It is missing the "Protection from Angels" (which is unprintable this year). They should have waited a year until Innistrad rotates. For constructed: It may see play but it is not near Baneslayer level (first strike + lifelink). Summarizing, it will drop a lot.
Liliana of the Dark Realms: On constructed, she is realistically a restricted -X/-X for 4; which is pretty undewelming. She is quite good in casual/Commader, where games last for a lot more so some price will be kept. She will anyway drop a lot too.
I agree with a lot of your analysis here, but are you really saying that on a 5/5, first strike is more relevant than haste? Also, I think the ability which kills all flying tokens and taps all large fliers so the Dragon (plus any other flying creatures you have on your side) can get damage through to the dome is strong.
But overall I do see the Archangel pulling ahead of the Dragon, just maybe not for the same reasons you do. For example, I agree with empathogen that red is hurting badly these days. Red cards which look great on paper often end up not being able to perform because they don't have enough support. That said, it's one of the most efficient red creatures ever printed and will never make anyone sad when they open it in a pack.
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Comparing the wildcard Thragtusk with a similar and well-understood card in Standard.
Thragtusk - 4G
Gain 5 life when it enters play.
When it dies (or gets bounced or blinked), put a 3/3 token into play.
5/3
Vorapede - 2GGG
Vigilance
Trample
When it dies, put a 6/5 vigilance trample token into play.
5/4
I see the two cards as similar in power level. Vorapede is has evasion, is tougher, and the token it produces is far better. But Thragtusk is more splashable and creates his token even when bounced or blinked, something that is relevant in Standard right now.
That said, Vorapede is a mythic going for $3 (similar to a rare for 1.50) while Thragtusk is a rare for $13. If the metagame is full of blink and bounce effects, Thragtusk should remain higher than Vorapede, but perhaps not by quite so massive a margin.
Hellkite is a *great* Red creature, but with Red at such a low point, I don't see it sustaining the hype (or value).
I completely agree with this but one thing I haven't been hearing that I'd like to point out is that this is one to watch out for come RtR. Red has been fairly weak in the past few years but come rotation that might change. Red already has bonfire and this which is a nice start. If it gets a little love in RtR (and with other colors losing more to rotation) this could easily take the top spot in the set as red takes a larger role. For now though it won't since it doesn't seem well positioned in todays meta. The power level is certainly there though (I think it's the best in the set actually). My plan is to wait until RtR spoilers roll around and snag a couple of these for hopefully cheaper.
No, I say that first strike + lifelink is better than haste.
Tapping a lot of flying tokens only matter agains flying token decks... which is a very limited part of the meta.
Closest thing I can compare it right now in Standar is Moltensteel Dragon; Ok, it has not haste (and a funky tapping ability) but comes a turn before and could potentially make more damage that this one in the same turn... Its current price is what? Less than 1$?
Do not get me wrong, I agree that it is a very good card and that, as mythic, it worth to be opened (I would be actually happy of openning it in a booster). However, I simply do not see where these 21$ come from.
This post is filled with much nonsense.....
Your seriously comparing Him to moltensteel dragon? Really?
His "Funk tapping ability" essentialy says he is unblockable the first turn he is down which is great for red because at turn 5 they should have you in the red zone already+ the fact that it kill flying 1/1's is a bonus to be contended with.
Think b4 you post.
As for those other cards
Liliana: Down by 10 unless some pro uses it or the edh crowd jumps quick
Dragon: staying price or down by 5
Sublime:Up by 5 dollars
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I repriced the entire set (again) but there wasn't enough movement in the top cards to justify a full update of the tally. I'd like to mention that Talrand, Sky Summoner is doing fairly well at 4.50 and perhaps pushing to $5. As a non-reprint it's got potential, but as a Legendary it's got a reason to stay down. I really don't see instants or sorceries as rare in blue decks and imagine he could be used to pump out 2/2 fliers pretty abusively... like at least one per turn, sometimes more, for free.
The M10 duals have been reprinted multiple times now, but remain nearly valuable enough to make the tally. In order of value from $2.50 to $2, we have Drowned Catacomb, Glacial Fortress, Sunpetal Grove, Dragonskull Summit, Rootbound Crag.
Sands of Delirium feels undervalued at 50c to me. At various times over the years, even the horribly over-printed Millstone was worth $3 and up. Sands is almost always the better card, often by quite a bit.
Diabolic Revelation is another that confuses me. Searching the library for a card is 5 mana now (usually with a tiny bonus), and this only costs you more for the opportunity to pay to search up additional cards. Some deck that generates a pile of mana quickly would be able to use this card to combo out whatever they needed to lock the game up. If nothing else, I see casual and certain older formats wanting these in the long run. Disturbing to see it being given away free (playsets for 99c).
The top uncommons are: Augur of Bolas, Jace's Phantasm, Reliquary Tower, and Rancor at $1. Tormod's Crypt and Vampire Nighthawk are at 75c.
Speaking of Reliquary Tower, most sellers have it at $3 to $5. HUH!? *checking the rarity* Yup, it's an uncommon, not a mythic! What gives? I sold through my Conflux supply at 40c each (shipped) in about a year and a half. Now that they're reprinted, they're worth TEN TIMES as much?
The Knights of Infamy and Glory seem like duds, but I thought they were quite strong looking. They may not be Stromgald Crusader, but they're more splashable and exalted is no trivial ability.
Many reprints have dropped down to silly prices, like Planar Cleansing and Quirion Dryad at $1 shipped.
I've got to say that a lot of reprints in this set seem like bad or weird choices. But a lot of the new cards are quite nice and well-designed. I think the design team did a good job and the reprint-picking team not so much.
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Tower has been a $3 card for nearly a year now, reprint will actually bring that price down. Reprint didn't make it worth "ten times as much", instead it's now worth 1/3 as much.
100+ available on tcgplayer at $1.50 or less.....
To be clear, Im agreeing with the quoted poster, now for the explanation:
Ive been selling these like crazy (long before it was announced as being reprinted) for $3 for months if not closer to a year now. Its probably in the top 10 of most commonly asked for cards by EDH players. Sure, they were cheap when they were in print (.50 back then), once they went out of print, they began to rise, slowly but steadily. Up to $1, then $1.50, and on up until it hit $3 or so, and its been solidly there for at least the entirety of this year if my memory serves me correctly. Now that its being reprinted, its price being cut in 1/2 isnt a huge shocker to me, but it certainly hasnt gone UP from before it was announced as a reprint. This set is full of quality EDH reprints, and the like, and while thankfully I didnt have a ton of most of them, in the end its a good thing, because it does add that additional supply to the market so that I can make sure to have the cards on hand for the players looking for them, and it makes them cheaper, so more players will be willing to buy them. It makes the old copies I do have worth less, but eh, thats just the nature of things, gotta take the ups with the downs.
I double checked the going pre-sales rates for the set, and theres been no change on the average box value from my last post, so nothing too crazy going on there thus far. Will be lots more to tell once the set actually comes out.
None of the above. In all likelihood, they'll all lose a fair bit of value in the near future. Thundermaw Hellkite will probably fall the most.
"sublime archangel, liliana of the dark realms, or thundermaw hellkite"
I'd say they all have a good chance of going up, because they're not reprints, they're mythic, and they're the only money cards in the set. This pushes up their value because fewer boxes are opened (nobody wants a box full of junk and maybe one $20 card). Hellkite is red, though, so it's likely to be the one to fall most.
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Fair enough, and a land that taps for colorless, comes into play untapped, and gives an effect like no maximum hand size is considered good by a lot of people, and especially when you consider that it had only been printed once, in a set that wasnt openned as much as more recent sets (prior to the take-off in demand starting with m10). Spellbook may be a zero cost artifact, but its an artifact, allowing it to be blown up much easier, its a spell, thus it can be countered. Its not a land so certain mass removal affects like O-Stone will blow it up, and it was reprinted several times. Reliquary tower plain and simply is better than spellbook 90% of the time. After things settle down, I suspect the tower will end up at around $1, still a solid price for a standard uncommon thats not seeing any real standard play.
As for the three cards mentioned, I like all three for different reasons, however I have a feeling that none of them will likely retain their current value. I see them all being solid $10 cards long-term. And Liliana will likely remain higher than the others for longer simply due to casual demand. Mono Black is by far the most popular mono-color deck type for casual players. Ive allready had a ton of people inquiring about it, and Ive been selling through mono-black staple cards a ton of late (Even before liliana was spoiled.)
Edh isn't standard or even legacy. You can play several colorless producing lands and not hurt your manabase too much. You're talking about a format where entwined tooth and nails are *small* casting cost-wise. Having no limit on your hand size in edh is a huge advantage(not "very little") and rarely is not worth taking the land's drawbacks.
Good catch on the movement here- it sounds like it's showing up in the MTGO PTQ today.
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The set is going to be under opened. People are unhappy with it and when people (like myself) who normally buy a box or two of product simply opt to buy a few key cards and skip the rest, that hurts supply bad. Further, it means that people who do open a box and only get 1 $10+ card from an entire box (which will happen a lot), they won't want to part with it for such a low price. So inevitably we'll see these 4 cards command a higher price than they should justify.
For the cards specifically:
Rotation is taking away all the most usable creatures in standard at the 5+ drop range except Silverheart and even most of our best 4 drops. That is a huge void to fill. Both the dragon and angel fall right into existing strategies in standard and the dragon specifically combats lingering souls. On top of that, dragons and angels are collectable on their own.
Ajani will fall a bit because no planeswalker these days holds 30$ price points long however, a turn 2 or 3 planeswalker that has 5 loyalty is something we haven't seen before and it also recurs with sun titan. This guy could actually see play. regardless, he will remain 20$+ for awhile.
Liliana fits mono black control perfectly and it seems that archetype is going to be pushed. Further, she works extremely well with the shocklands which are likely going to be reprinted.
I really can't see these cards falling significantly. People are excited about them and pros are excited about them. Granted, that merely creates hype but enough hype combined with enough supply shortage will cause a price spike followed by price memory for the following year.
Jeff, I understand the differences between lands and artifacts, and that each has pros and cons. My main point is that Reliquary Tower can't maintain the $3 to $5 price tag it currently has. I have it at $1 shipped and it isn't moving. I realize I'm not a large site so I can't predict the broad market with my small sampling of data, but I'm willing to sell out at that price if someone wants to do so. I think in a few months it will be 50c.
Jedi - Thanks. I know nothing about EDH, and I mean literally nothing. I don't even know what it stands for, how it's played, or what cards are legal in it. I'm completely out of touch with it. Well, I do know one thing - it has made previously unplayable stuff playable. And that's a good thing.
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Of the three cards Archangel has the most room to grow. I've tested with the card and it was pretty much game over if I get to untap with it. I tested it in a g/w shell with mana accelator, silverblade paladin, wolfir silverheart, and revenge of the hunted. I can see the card going to $25.
Thundermaw hellkite is good but is only great in mono red. But even in red it faces stiff competition from zealout conscript. So I see it going to $15.
Liliana is just a below average planeswalks that will more often than not be a 4 mana sorcery speed removal. I see this ending up below $10.
I would agree with those who have said Sublime Archangel,
though she's already quite up there in price.
Hellkite is a *great* Red creature, but with Red at such a low point, I don't see it sustaining the hype (or value).
Liliana will only see fringe play and drop in value until RtR (possibly) gives her more fuel.
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I agree with a lot of your analysis here, but are you really saying that on a 5/5, first strike is more relevant than haste? Also, I think the ability which kills all flying tokens and taps all large fliers so the Dragon (plus any other flying creatures you have on your side) can get damage through to the dome is strong.
But overall I do see the Archangel pulling ahead of the Dragon, just maybe not for the same reasons you do. For example, I agree with empathogen that red is hurting badly these days. Red cards which look great on paper often end up not being able to perform because they don't have enough support. That said, it's one of the most efficient red creatures ever printed and will never make anyone sad when they open it in a pack.
EDIT:
Comparing the wildcard Thragtusk with a similar and well-understood card in Standard.
Thragtusk - 4G
Gain 5 life when it enters play.
When it dies (or gets bounced or blinked), put a 3/3 token into play.
5/3
Vorapede - 2GGG
Vigilance
Trample
When it dies, put a 6/5 vigilance trample token into play.
5/4
I see the two cards as similar in power level. Vorapede is has evasion, is tougher, and the token it produces is far better. But Thragtusk is more splashable and creates his token even when bounced or blinked, something that is relevant in Standard right now.
That said, Vorapede is a mythic going for $3 (similar to a rare for 1.50) while Thragtusk is a rare for $13. If the metagame is full of blink and bounce effects, Thragtusk should remain higher than Vorapede, but perhaps not by quite so massive a margin.
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I completely agree with this but one thing I haven't been hearing that I'd like to point out is that this is one to watch out for come RtR. Red has been fairly weak in the past few years but come rotation that might change. Red already has bonfire and this which is a nice start. If it gets a little love in RtR (and with other colors losing more to rotation) this could easily take the top spot in the set as red takes a larger role. For now though it won't since it doesn't seem well positioned in todays meta. The power level is certainly there though (I think it's the best in the set actually). My plan is to wait until RtR spoilers roll around and snag a couple of these for hopefully cheaper.
Thundermaw will be the most expensive card in the set.
That said, Thundermaw will top the tally? BOLD!
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This post is filled with much nonsense.....
Your seriously comparing Him to moltensteel dragon? Really?
His "Funk tapping ability" essentialy says he is unblockable the first turn he is down which is great for red because at turn 5 they should have you in the red zone already+ the fact that it kill flying 1/1's is a bonus to be contended with.
Think b4 you post.
As for those other cards
Liliana: Down by 10 unless some pro uses it or the edh crowd jumps quick
Dragon: staying price or down by 5
Sublime:Up by 5 dollars
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EDH:
Kaalia
I don't quite know Craig Wescoe's reputation on financial matters, but he made the same prediction in his article on TCGPlayer today.