Have watched the rise and life of this card, gone through a few and now find myself thinking that I need to pick up some again.
My question is, where is it after M13 rotates? Does it have a life in modern and legacy that will carry on?
I see it in some lists, but am curious on thoughts out there?
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Or it is going to rotate out come October and it is going to drop due to lack of demand. Modern doesn't run 4 copies of him and Legacy never will.
If it is not reprinted in m14 it will drop to $8-10. Should be a $5 mythic but since he found a good home in standard he will have some residual price memory. So it will take some time for its price to accurately reflect its value.
I agree with this post. I think people are being higly optimistic if they think that Thundermaw will become a 5$ the instant he rotates. Lets hope that Hellkite sees a reprint.
I think it still taps banseslayer angel for a quick 5 damage? I can see it fall in price ($10), but its hastey, flier control, and 5 damage is good for end game. Issue is that most decks only run about 1-2. Also the fact that it might see M14 makes me happy.
The card has casual appeal so he will never completely plummet, but without a doubt he is poised for a huge fall, be it when M14 is spoiled and he isn't in there, or a few months before M15 when people dump
Generally any expensive standard-legal mythic can determine future value based on 3 questions:
1) Is it heavily used in Modern or Legacy? (minimum 3 or 4-of in consistent top-8 decks)
2) Is it an absolute Commander or EDH staple?
3) Was it in a small print-run set (WWK, NPH, etc) and only printed once?
If the answer to any of these is no, it's gonna fall. If the answer to more than one is no, such as is the case with Thundermaw, it's really going to fall. $7-9 is about right if M14 doesn't have it, $4-6 if it does.
I expect $10-15 same as Baneslayer. He shouldn't need to be run as a 4 of outside of standard (even in standard imo). In modern decks that run him he's just there as a back up finisher no more than 2. Baneslayer isn't even run in three copies let alone four. BSA and TH are basically the same for their respective colors. I'm just waiting for someone to create a dragonstorm deck in modern. sooo many good dragons in modern:p
Edit: just seen a few decklists with 3 and 4 copies of BSA:p
I don't agree with Lbolt's assessment. this thing's going to tank harder than BSA. BSA is actually a really great Modern control card, much better than Hellkite in the decks that want this sort of action. BSA even has protection from Tmaw so its value is further diminished by not being good in the mirror. it might drop to $15 out of the gate, but I could see it being as low as $6 after the dust settles.
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If this card rotates out of standard without a reprint in M14, I can see it stabilizing around 10-15 dollars. Thundermaw does see maindeck play in Modern and is an inherently powerful card that some decks are going to want, just not 4 copies. Being a mythic that was only printed in one set should put a floor on it's price.
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My question is, where is it after M13 rotates? Does it have a life in modern and legacy that will carry on?
I see it in some lists, but am curious on thoughts out there?
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It will. Thundermaw Hellkite is pretty awful outside of standard and should tank in the same familiarity that Baneslayer Angel did.
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I agree with this post. I think people are being higly optimistic if they think that Thundermaw will become a 5$ the instant he rotates. Lets hope that Hellkite sees a reprint.
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He'll start falling in April as people start dumping standard stuff for rotation.
Medium-Long term:
If he's not in M14 he falls abruptly to 10$.
If he's in M14 he falls abruptly to 13$ and rises over time as people realize he's still amazing in standard.
1) Is it heavily used in Modern or Legacy? (minimum 3 or 4-of in consistent top-8 decks)
2) Is it an absolute Commander or EDH staple?
3) Was it in a small print-run set (WWK, NPH, etc) and only printed once?
If the answer to any of these is no, it's gonna fall. If the answer to more than one is no, such as is the case with Thundermaw, it's really going to fall. $7-9 is about right if M14 doesn't have it, $4-6 if it does.
Edit: just seen a few decklists with 3 and 4 copies of BSA:p