The future price of these cards, IMO, will largely depend on how successful wizards are at supporting/promoting modern over the next 2 years. We're just now seeing the re release of shocklands, as tacit nods to modern and attempts at lowering the $ barriers to entry.
Scars duals are great in modern aggro and combo decks, so as long as the format survives the next few years, they'll probably creep back up in price. Considering how setting-specific the lands are too, I have no idea how or where they'd be able to reprint them, outside of scars, artifact, or esper-themed causal products.
I would especially consider picking up Darkslick Shores right now if you can, since that sees play both in Reanimator and in U/B Tezzeret Affinity (it has the distinct advantage over Underground Sea of not turning on Islandwalk against Fish, while the drawback is minimal since those decks rarely play more than 3-4 lands in any given game anyway.
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I couldn't agree more with "pick up Darkslicks". All the SoM lands are suffering Rotation dropoff, but I bet they all come back up in the next couple of years, barring a reprint. One quick note about reprint possibility: Rav duals were specifically given generic names for the possibility of reprinting (or so I have heard). Scars lands are really locations on Mirrodin, so they might not have that same possibility.
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I couldn't agree more with "pick up Darkslicks". All the SoM lands are suffering Rotation dropoff, but I bet they all come back up in the next couple of years, barring a reprint. One quick note about reprint possibility: Rav duals were specifically given generic names for the possibility of reprinting (or so I have heard). Scars lands are really locations on Mirrodin, so they might not have that same possibility.
I didn't read much about the storyline of SOM. So are there really places such as a the blackcleave cliffs, or the seachrome coast? Do you have any sources to confirm this?
Honestly, I just assumed based on seaCHROME coast, COPPERline gorge, DARKSLICK shores (phyrexian oil), RAZORVERGE thicket. They seem like metal locales to me.
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I didn't read much about the storyline of SOM. So are there really places such as a the blackcleave cliffs, or the seachrome coast? Do you have any sources to confirm this?
thanks in advance
The locations are *definitely* Mirrodin-specific. Razorverge Thicket is a specific location on Mirrodin...
The others likely are, too.
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Honestly, I just assumed based on seaCHROME coast, COPPERline gorge, DARKSLICK shores (phyrexian oil), RAZORVERGE thicket. They seem like metal locales to me.
I guess these are pretty metally but I think they could easily be printed in a core set. They aren't named Phyrexian XXXX or Mirrodin XXXX or some such. Until this thread pointed it our I assumed the names were very generic. And I also assume that wizards does that intentially with all the duals lands because which ones are in standard, and if they are reprints or not, greatly affect the metagame.
I wouldn't consider the SoM duals to be good speculation targets, if that's what your asking. Every year new duals get printed, and who knows if the next set will be better than these. It's a lot of risk for only a couple dollars reward for each land. Meh.
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The locations are *definitely* Mirrodin-specific. Razorverge Thicket is a specific location on Mirrodin...
The others likely are, too.
*definitely* isn't enough proof for me to support your statement, sorry.
I agree there is a "metal" quality to the name, but until I read something about Koth chasing Venser through the copperline gorge it still feels pretty neutral and can be reprinted.
Ravinca land name all sound like places.
Hallowed Fountain
Temple Garden
Bloodcrypt
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Both the scars and shocks follow the pattern of a descriptive adjective follow by a noun.
I guess these are pretty metally but I think they could easily be printed in a core set. They aren't named Phyrexian XXXX or Mirrodin XXXX or some such. Until this thread pointed it our I assumed the names were very generic. And I also assume that wizards does that intentially with all the duals lands because which ones are in standard, and if they are reprints or not, greatly affect the metagame.
The old pain lands saw reprints several times in core sets with Dominara-specific names (e.g. Caves of Koilos, Yavimaya Coast, Karplusan Forest, etc.), so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for the SoM lands to end up in a future core set.
The old pain lands saw reprints several times in core sets with Dominara-specific names (e.g. Caves of Koilos, Yavimaya Coast, Karplusan Forest, etc.), so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for the SoM lands to end up in a future core set.
That was a different era though in terms of Magic/set design. Things changed significantly when M10 was released. I'd be utterly shocked if the fastlands ever showed up in core based on flavor alone. And a cycle of functional reprints with different names seems equally unlikely.
I couldn't agree more with "pick up Darkslicks". All the SoM lands are suffering Rotation dropoff, but I bet they all come back up in the next couple of years, barring a reprint. One quick note about reprint possibility: Rav duals were specifically given generic names for the possibility of reprinting (or so I have heard). Scars lands are really locations on Mirrodin, so they might not have that same possibility.
I think they have been more liberal with their specific location names in regards to reprinting. I think these lands while may not show up in a non-mirrodin block expansion, could end up in a core set. You can make up anything to make it fit the flavor of the set.
They were good lands, not overpowered, but solid. A good variation on the "coming into play tapped or untapped" theme.
I also want to point out things like Future Sight. They included a lot of things (yes I realize it was the theme of the set/block to reference things.. BUT...)I can see them showing up in a set like this if they ever choose to do another referential kind of block.
That being said, I don't think we'll see them again for a while. Getting them for 5 and under is a great deal. They are great lands that are useful in EDH and Modern especially.
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That was a different era though in terms of Magic/set design. Things changed significantly when M10 was released. I'd be utterly shocked if the fastlands ever showed up in core based on flavor alone. And a cycle of functional reprints with different names seems equally unlikely.
That's true. I guess I was more or less illustrating that in the off-chance they ever do decide to put them in a core set, it wouldn't be unprecedented. I also agree wholeheartedly about your point on the functional reprints.
Yeah these are going to spike when most people realize they need a playset for any allied colored or tricolored modern deck they're playing.
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*definitely* isn't enough proof for me to support your statement, sorry.
I agree there is a "metal" quality to the name, but until I read something about Koth chasing Venser through the copperline gorge it still feels pretty neutral and can be reprinted.
Ravinca land name all sound like places.
Hallowed Fountain
Temple Garden
Bloodcrypt
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Both the scars and shocks follow the pattern of a descriptive adjective follow by a noun.
Blackcleave and Darkslick are both used in creature names in Scars of Mirrodin.
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I check multiple site and found that SoM Dual land price drop a lot.
I found that most of them below 3$ now except Blackcleave Cliffs. Do you think that the price will goes up again or it will remain this value ?
Scars duals are great in modern aggro and combo decks, so as long as the format survives the next few years, they'll probably creep back up in price. Considering how setting-specific the lands are too, I have no idea how or where they'd be able to reprint them, outside of scars, artifact, or esper-themed causal products.
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I didn't read much about the storyline of SOM. So are there really places such as a the blackcleave cliffs, or the seachrome coast? Do you have any sources to confirm this?
thanks in advance
The locations are *definitely* Mirrodin-specific.
Razorverge Thicket is a specific location on Mirrodin...
The others likely are, too.
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I guess these are pretty metally but I think they could easily be printed in a core set. They aren't named Phyrexian XXXX or Mirrodin XXXX or some such. Until this thread pointed it our I assumed the names were very generic. And I also assume that wizards does that intentially with all the duals lands because which ones are in standard, and if they are reprints or not, greatly affect the metagame.
*definitely* isn't enough proof for me to support your statement, sorry.
I agree there is a "metal" quality to the name, but until I read something about Koth chasing Venser through the copperline gorge it still feels pretty neutral and can be reprinted.
Ravinca land name all sound like places.
Hallowed Fountain
Temple Garden
Bloodcrypt
.
.
Both the scars and shocks follow the pattern of a descriptive adjective follow by a noun.
The old pain lands saw reprints several times in core sets with Dominara-specific names (e.g. Caves of Koilos, Yavimaya Coast, Karplusan Forest, etc.), so it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for the SoM lands to end up in a future core set.
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That was a different era though in terms of Magic/set design. Things changed significantly when M10 was released. I'd be utterly shocked if the fastlands ever showed up in core based on flavor alone. And a cycle of functional reprints with different names seems equally unlikely.
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I think they have been more liberal with their specific location names in regards to reprinting. I think these lands while may not show up in a non-mirrodin block expansion, could end up in a core set. You can make up anything to make it fit the flavor of the set.
They were good lands, not overpowered, but solid. A good variation on the "coming into play tapped or untapped" theme.
I also want to point out things like Future Sight. They included a lot of things (yes I realize it was the theme of the set/block to reference things.. BUT...)I can see them showing up in a set like this if they ever choose to do another referential kind of block.
That being said, I don't think we'll see them again for a while. Getting them for 5 and under is a great deal. They are great lands that are useful in EDH and Modern especially.
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Otherwise, I don't see much long-term growth potential for these.
That's true. I guess I was more or less illustrating that in the off-chance they ever do decide to put them in a core set, it wouldn't be unprecedented. I also agree wholeheartedly about your point on the functional reprints.
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Blackcleave and Darkslick are both used in creature names in Scars of Mirrodin.