Hey again y'all, I got a Book Promo Jace Beleren yesterday and was trying to ascertain the value. I traded for it at 60. This seems low though...I'm also guessing I should probably sit on it too, right? any thoughts would be appreciated as always, thanks.
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I traded a FTV Relics for one plus a bunch of cards, and I traded a Jace the Mindsculptor for another + a Judge promo Poluted Delta and a foil Glacial Fortress. I wanted them badly.
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I traded a FTV Relics for one plus a bunch of cards, and I traded a Jace the Mindsculptor for another + a Judge promo Poluted Delta and a foil Glacial Fortress. I wanted them badly.
Why would someone trade a jace for a jace and then some cards?
So I was having a hard time finding information on which books included this card. Was it just a limited first print run of some sorts?
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The Jace Book Promo came with the copies of the Agents of Artifice Book that were purchased by shops specifically. It was meant to be a special cross-promotion thing to try and get shops to buy the books to sell. In the end very few shops actually bothered to buy the books to sell, so there are very few of these book promos out there (all of the other copies of the books didnt contain the promo.) If I had to wager a guess, the jace book promo is probably one of if not the most rare magic card printed in the last decade or so (random misprints aside of course).
It is exceptionally rare - I traded a foil JTMS for a nonfoil + the Book Promo Jace 1.0. I think it was worth it, just wanted to be sure for my own edification lol.
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Crimany. I just checked online for some. For one, ebay has none, zero, nadda available of these guys, and after checking through online stores for a little while, I found one store that had 2 at $65 each, the rest of the major stores I checked (I didnt check them all) were sold out at $60-$70 each, the last two that did sell on ebay sold for $65 and $90 respectively, thats just insane, but thats what happens when something is exceptionally rare. If I had to wager a current value on them, I would put it around $75 or so right now based upon how unavailable they are currently and what the other stores/ebay have sold them out at and how there are even none left on ebay.
Crimany. I just checked online for some. For one, ebay has none, zero, nadda available of these guys, and after checking through online stores for a little while, I found one store that had 2 at $65 each, the rest of the major stores I checked (I didnt check them all) were sold out at $60-$70 each, the last two that did sell on ebay sold for $65 and $90 respectively, thats just insane, but thats what happens when something is exceptionally rare. If I had to wager a current value on them, I would put it around $75 or so right now based upon how unavailable they are currently and what the other stores/ebay have sold them out at and how there are even none left on ebay.
This means they're going up to, albiet slowly. I got a second one a while back so I looked up values and there were plenty on ebay selling from $40-$80 and stores will still in stock on $60s.
Yes, they are beautiful, which is one of the reasons I wanted one. Also, the low availability of them on the market and the lack of actual data probably will make them worth quite a lot in a few years. It'll be really funny when I can trade this for a playset of Mind Sculptors in a year and a half, lol. To be honest, it'll probably sit in my EDH deck for several years (Wrexial, if anyone was curious).
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Alas, it's not going to be worth a playset of Mind Sculptors in a year and half .. maybe never . I mean, Mind Sculptors will still be hot in Extended/Legacy/Vintage.
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Naturally I was exaggerating for effect...I expect it command a lot of money down the road, at least.
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Yes, they are beautiful, which is one of the reasons I wanted one. Also, the low availability of them on the market and the lack of actual data probably will make them worth quite a lot in a few years. It'll be really funny when I can trade this for a playset of Mind Sculptors in a year and a half, lol. To be honest, it'll probably sit in my EDH deck for several years (Wrexial, if anyone was curious).
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I agree this is slight hyperbole, but the point stands. I really doubt these will lose value unless wizards reprints jace with that specific art which would be a evil thing to do with such a special promo.
But these would still be more valuable, so long as they give the reprint with a new expansion symbol and not just re-issue them. The little 'paintbrush' expansion symbol is actually kinda boss. But that would distinguish the two runs. The first run (these) would be more sought after.
Regarding Post #8, I wonder what happened to all the surplus books that never got ordered? If some jerk at WotC unloads 1,000 of these years from now we're gonna have egg on our face. Do they just destroy that stuff or do they hang on to it? Anybody know?
And yeah, the art is gorgeous. My only (tiny) regret is that they didn't foil this puppy.
Well I did some research, the books themselves are still available but even if you ordered and bought it through your local B&M, you would no longer be able to redeem the prize. There were 5000 copies of the Jace printed according to various (unofficial) sources. From what I have been able to find, far less than that were actually sent to the B&Ms since as jeff posted very few actually ordered them for this promotion.
The real question is not what happened to the books, obviously, it is what happened to the rest of the Jaces. If I had to guess, I would say its likely that they are still at WotC somewhere and will forever remain under lock and key...until some "enterprising" employee jacks them all and floods the market, lol.
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The real question is not what happened to the books, obviously, it is what happened to the rest of the Jaces. If I had to guess, I would say its likely that they are still at WotC somewhere and will forever remain under lock and key...until some "enterprising" employee jacks them all and floods the market, lol.
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Are they really non-foil? I always thought they were. I may have to get one if that is the case.
They are non-foil.
The were given out with the first shipment of books as a promotion so stores who didn't sell enough of the books they had still could have them. (one of my local shops ended up keeping one because not enough people bought the books). The rest wizards kept.
Somehow these things went under the radar despite being rarer than FTV cards. The print run was short, distribution small, and undersold at that.
I think there was a deckbuilding contest in the summer where some Book Jaces were prizes
Maybe the rest went out with the contest?
I think the contest (build a M11 deck based on a M11 Planeswalker) over the summer was 40 runner-up winners, I was one of them, received 4 tickets to Sorcerer's Apprentice and 1 Jace Alt art promo. The grand prize I think was 5 winners, she/he received a lot of movie tickets and 8 Jace promos plus other things. So there goes 80 of the cards total.
There were 5000 copies of the Jace printed according to various (unofficial) sources. From what I have been able to find, far less than that were actually sent to the B&Ms..
That is phenomenal. Wow. I had no idea they were quite so rare.
Whoa. I just looked around everywhere, and the only one I could find that was still available for sale was 1 on ebay for a buy it now at 99.99. They are literally sold out everywhere else from what I can see. Thats crazy (the two listed on findmagiccards are actually sold out, site is terrible at updating the listed inventory when you do a search). Wonder how high this card will go O.o.....
The real question is not what happened to the books, obviously, it is what happened to the rest of the Jaces. If I had to guess, I would say its likely that they are still at WotC somewhere and will forever remain under lock and key...until some "enterprising" employee jacks them all and floods the market, lol.
FYI, some of these were sent out as prizes during the Worldwake "Find a piece of Jace" promotion.
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3 that went for $65 each shipped
1 that actually sold for 90 shipped
1 that went for 41 shipped
Around 60 seems right by that, but apparently the right buyer will pay more.
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Why would someone trade a jace for a jace and then some cards?
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Very intersting.
Glad I picked up two then..
But slightly less happy that I completely decimated my collection of '$1 rares' to pay for it. I mean, I don't really miss them, but yeah...sometimes.
Nice to see it's holding its value though.
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This means they're going up to, albiet slowly. I got a second one a while back so I looked up values and there were plenty on ebay selling from $40-$80 and stores will still in stock on $60s.
The are is absolutly beatiful:)
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I agree this is slight hyperbole, but the point stands. I really doubt these will lose value unless wizards reprints jace with that specific art which would be a evil thing to do with such a special promo.
Regarding Post #8, I wonder what happened to all the surplus books that never got ordered? If some jerk at WotC unloads 1,000 of these years from now we're gonna have egg on our face. Do they just destroy that stuff or do they hang on to it? Anybody know?
And yeah, the art is gorgeous. My only (tiny) regret is that they didn't foil this puppy.
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The real question is not what happened to the books, obviously, it is what happened to the rest of the Jaces. If I had to guess, I would say its likely that they are still at WotC somewhere and will forever remain under lock and key...until some "enterprising" employee jacks them all and floods the market, lol.
Currently playing:
Vintage - Meandeck MUD
Legacy - Death and TaxesW, Team AmericaBUG, GSZ ZooGRW, TES, JunkBGW, Blue MUDU
Extended - BantUGW
Standard - Big RedR, UB ControlBU, Eldrazi GreenG
EDH/Commander - Thrun, the Last TrollG, Gwendolyn Di CorciBUR, Venser, Shaper SavantU
They'll pull them out in 10 years in another "What's in my old filing cabinet?" article.
Are they really non-foil? I always thought they were. I may have to get one if that is the case.
They are non-foil.
The were given out with the first shipment of books as a promotion so stores who didn't sell enough of the books they had still could have them. (one of my local shops ended up keeping one because not enough people bought the books). The rest wizards kept.
Somehow these things went under the radar despite being rarer than FTV cards. The print run was short, distribution small, and undersold at that.
I think the contest (build a M11 deck based on a M11 Planeswalker) over the summer was 40 runner-up winners, I was one of them, received 4 tickets to Sorcerer's Apprentice and 1 Jace Alt art promo. The grand prize I think was 5 winners, she/he received a lot of movie tickets and 8 Jace promos plus other things. So there goes 80 of the cards total.
That is phenomenal. Wow. I had no idea they were quite so rare.
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Whoa. I just looked around everywhere, and the only one I could find that was still available for sale was 1 on ebay for a buy it now at 99.99. They are literally sold out everywhere else from what I can see. Thats crazy (the two listed on findmagiccards are actually sold out, site is terrible at updating the listed inventory when you do a search). Wonder how high this card will go O.o.....
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FYI, some of these were sent out as prizes during the Worldwake "Find a piece of Jace" promotion.