Question 1
If Karn Liberated's ultimate is activated, and Disperse is cast targeting Karn and resolves. Karn is returned to hand, but then does his ultimate resolve? It refers to cards exiled by Karn Liberated (an object that no longer exists). At that point, I would think the cards exiled by Karn (the no-longer-existing object) and cards exiled by other means, are just all one big exile stack that are indistinguishable.
Question 2 Olivia Voldaren is out and she gets targeted with Go for the Throat. In response, her second ability is activated and she targets herself. That would mean you have control over your own Olivia for as long as you control Olivia. Once GftT resolves, you no longer control Olivia so would control be given back to you even though it's in the graveyard?
Question 1
If Karn Liberated's ultimate is activated, and Disperse is cast targeting Karn and resolves. Karn is returned to hand, but then does his ultimate resolve? It refers to cards exiled by Karn Liberated (an object that no longer exists). At that point, I would think the cards exiled by Karn (the no-longer-existing object) and cards exiled by other means, are just all one big exile stack that are indistinguishable.
They are linked abilities, so in reality it means "cards exiled by this card's first ability." And thus will be remembered. The game starts over with cards previously exiled by Karn in play.
This is why if you replay the Karn after it gets bounced none of the FIRST cards will be returned. Because they were exiled by a different set of Karn abilities.
Question 2 Olivia Voldaren is out and she gets targeted with Go for the Throat. In response, her second ability is activated and she targets herself. That would mean you have control over your own Olivia for as long as you control Olivia. Once GftT resolves, you no longer control Olivia so would control be given back to you even though it's in the graveyard?
She stays in the graveyard. You can't control an object in the graveyard and the effect does nothing.
Also: Olivia's ability would resolve first, then go for the throat. Still irrelevant though.
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Second one can't happen. "Olivia Voldaren deals 1 damage to another target creature."
They're not activating the first activated ability. They're activating the second activated ability (the one that lets you gain control of a target Vampire).
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Scientists have calculated that the chance of anything so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
They are linked abilities, so in reality it means "cards exiled by this card's first ability." And thus will be remembered. The game starts over with cards previously exiled by Karn in play.
LKI doesn't factor into it. The third ability is linked to the first two, and linked abilities remember which objects they have affected.
607.1. An object may have two abilities printed on it such that one of them causes actions to be taken or objects to be affected and the other one directly refers to those actions or objects. If so, these two abilities are linked: the second refers only to actions that were taken or objects that were affected by the first, and not by any other ability.
They're not activating the first activated ability. They're activating the second activated ability (the one that lets you gain control of a target Vampire).
If Karn Liberated's ultimate is activated, and Disperse is cast targeting Karn and resolves. Karn is returned to hand, but then does his ultimate resolve? It refers to cards exiled by Karn Liberated (an object that no longer exists). At that point, I would think the cards exiled by Karn (the no-longer-existing object) and cards exiled by other means, are just all one big exile stack that are indistinguishable.
Question 2
Olivia Voldaren is out and she gets targeted with Go for the Throat. In response, her second ability is activated and she targets herself. That would mean you have control over your own Olivia for as long as you control Olivia. Once GftT resolves, you no longer control Olivia so would control be given back to you even though it's in the graveyard?
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They are linked abilities, so in reality it means "cards exiled by this card's first ability." And thus will be remembered. The game starts over with cards previously exiled by Karn in play.
This is why if you replay the Karn after it gets bounced none of the FIRST cards will be returned. Because they were exiled by a different set of Karn abilities.
She stays in the graveyard. You can't control an object in the graveyard and the effect does nothing.
Also: Olivia's ability would resolve first, then go for the throat. Still irrelevant though.
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They're not activating the first activated ability. They're activating the second activated ability (the one that lets you gain control of a target Vampire).
Scientists have calculated that the chance of anything so patently absurd actually existing are millions to one. But magicians have calculated that million-to-one chances crop up nine times out of ten.
Really? Does LKI include "Cards that I exiled"?
LKI doesn't factor into it. The third ability is linked to the first two, and linked abilities remember which objects they have affected.
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