Magic has once again transcended even further allowing us for better standard play thanks due to the new rotation system, and has even gone so far as to "basically" add a new colour into the mixture. Whilst I'm still new I can't help but wonder if they will transcend even further into this new frontier, to add a new format into a mix, one that acts like modern, but only plays with cards from the new rotations in behind. Personally I feel this would be the perfect opportunity for them to treed onto this path giving the fresh pacing of the new sets, and would allow more new players to experience a new type of modern that they can grow up with like the old players. Might sound silly, but I find the idea of a fresh new pool of cards to be an exciting concept that would be amazing if they do explore the possibility.
Magic has once again transcended even further allowing us for better standard play thanks due to the new rotation system, and has even gone so far as to add a new colour into the mixture. Whilst I'm still new I can't help but wonder if they will transcend even further into this new frontier, to add a new format into a mix, one that acts like modern, but only plays with cards from the new rotations in behind. Personally I feel this would be the perfect opportunity for them to treed onto this path giving the fresh pacing of the new sets, and would allow more new players to experience a new type of modern that they can grow up with like the old players. Might sound silly, but I find the idea of a fresh new pool of cards to be an exciting concept that would be amazing if they do explore the possibility.
Colorless =/= A New Color.
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I would say give it some more time (like 2-5 more years) and then make M15 the cut off for the new modern (which was when the border was changed). At the moment though that kind of format would be dominated by Siege Rhino.
I expect that in 3-5 years we will see a new eternal format that goes back as far as Origins or possibly Tarkir. They started with new card frames in Tarkir (just like they did in 8th/Mirrodin) and this time they actually have a revamped design policy and colour wheel theory, as well as the two-block rotation (I contend that the two-block rotation starts with Tarkir, even though it's a 3 set block - there are semantic arguments either way). I seem to recall MaRo saying that Origins was a new 'origin point' or a 'relaunch' of the brand (Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what he said).
I'm of the opinion that removing Modern from the Pro Tour basically confirms this, because it opens the door for the new format to slip in. They didn't make Modern from the ground-up to be a new format - which is why things like Boomerang and Lightning Bolt got grandfathered in. It created as a format for MTG:O out of necessity and became a paper thing afterwards too. This new format would be conceived from the ground-up as a new format - one without even Shock or Cancel.
I'm already planning what my deck will look like assuming that this is true.
He said 'basically'. It basically is - it's a new mana symbol in costs that requires a specific type of mana that even got it's own basic land. The semantics that it's not actually a colour doesn't remove the fact that it functions as a new colour in every practical way for deck building purposes - moreso than S ever did.
I expect that in 3-5 years we will see a new eternal format that goes back as far as Origins or possibly Tarkir. They started with new card frames in Tarkir (just like they did in 8th/Mirrodin) and this time they actually have a revamped design policy and colour wheel theory, as well as the two-block rotation (I contend that the two-block rotation starts with Tarkir, even though it's a 3 set block - there are semantic arguments either way). I seem to recall MaRo saying that Origins was a new 'origin point' or a 'relaunch' of the brand (Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what he said).
I'm of the opinion that removing Modern from the Pro Tour basically confirms this, because it opens the door for the new format to slip in. They didn't make Modern from the ground-up to be a new format - which is why things like Boomerang and Lightning Bolt got grandfathered in. It created as a format for MTG:O out of necessity and became a paper thing afterwards too. This new format would be conceived from the ground-up as a new format - one without even Shock or Cancel.
I'm already planning what my deck will look like assuming that this is true.
He said 'basically'. It basically is - it's a new mana symbol in costs that requires a specific type of mana that even got it's own basic land. The semantics that it's not actually a colour doesn't remove the fact that it functions as a new colour in every practical way for deck building purposes - moreso than S ever did.
Except, although the symbol is new, what it represents is not. It is simply a visual distinction between colorless and generic, nothing more. There is nothing new about cards that require specific types of mana to be cast after all, we have had several mechanics that care about it over the years, some better than others.
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In the end it's all just semantics, the point is we are entering into a new frontier, a new generation that a mass of new players will grow into, and in my eyes it'll a wonderful addition!
Quite the intriguing statements, GW2GuruUser7586 and frigis. When would the cut off point be? Would it begin at the start of the official rotation "Battle of Zendikar", or would it start at the last set to be shown in the double rotation bracket "Dragons of Tarkir", or would it start during the new border in "M15"? What do you guys think?
In the end it's all just semantics, the point is we are entering into a new frontier, a new generation that a mass of new players will grow into, and in my eyes it'll a wonderful addition!
Quite the intriguing statements, GW2GuruUser7586 and frigis. When would the cut off point be? Would it begin at the start of the official rotation "Battle of Zendikar", or would it start at the last set to be shown in the double rotation bracket "Dragons of Tarkir", or would it start during the new border in "M15"? What do you guys think?
Honestly, I don't think it is going to happen any time soon, if at all. As the Conspiracy2 spoilers revealed so far have shown, and WotC have indicated, that even though some of the Modern staples are to powerful for standard, they are clearly aware of the fact and will reprint such cards in auxiliary products, making them easier to get for new modern players.
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Except, although the symbol is new, what it represents is not. It is simply a visual distinction between colorless and generic, nothing more. There is nothing new about cards that require specific types of mana to be cast after all, we have had several mechanics that care about it over the years, some better than others.
Show me even one card with a casting cost that couldn't be paid with coloured mana and required it's own kind of mana. Since I know no such card exists, my point stands. For deck building purposes C is effectively it's own colour. S was a rider on top of another type of mana (and it's colour didn't even matter - it could be colourless or red or white or whatever) and also never appeard as the casting cost of a card - just on activated or triggered abilities. Phyrexian mana just gave you another way to pay instead of coloured mana.
While C has existed as a mana type forever (just a visual distinction moving forward) is had never been required (except maybe in a few fringe cases - I seem to recall one card in Antiquities?) and it is the only time such a restriction existed on the casting cost of a spell - which is the key reason if 'feels like' a new colour for every practical purpose.
When would the cut off point be? Would it begin at the start of the official rotation "Battle of Zendikar", or would it start at the last set to be shown in the double rotation bracket "Dragons of Tarkir", or would it start during the new border in "M15"?
As I said above - either Kahns (because that's the first set with the new frames) or Origins - because that would be the 'Origin point'. I half expect the new format might be called Origins, but that may confuse it with the set.
I honestly hope it starts in Origins - leave Collected Company out (if not - at least make it the first card on the banlist)
Except, although the symbol is new, what it represents is not. It is simply a visual distinction between colorless and generic, nothing more. There is nothing new about cards that require specific types of mana to be cast after all, we have had several mechanics that care about it over the years, some better than others.
Show me even one card with a casting cost that couldn't be paid with coloured mana and required it's own kind of mana. Since I know no such card exists, my point stands. For deck building purposes C is effectively it's own colour. S was a rider on top of another type of mana (and it's colour didn't even matter - it could be colourless or red or white or whatever) and also never appeard as the casting cost of a card - just on activated or triggered abilities. Phyrexian mana just gave you another way to pay instead of coloured mana.
While C has existed as a mana type forever (just a visual distinction moving forward) is had never been required (except maybe in a few fringe cases - I seem to recall one card in Antiquities?) and it is the only time such a restriction existed on the casting cost of a spell - which is the key reason if 'feels like' a new colour for every practical purpose.
When would the cut off point be? Would it begin at the start of the official rotation "Battle of Zendikar", or would it start at the last set to be shown in the double rotation bracket "Dragons of Tarkir", or would it start during the new border in "M15"?
As I said above - either Kahns (because that's the first set with the new frames) or Origins - because that would be the 'Origin point'. I half expect the new format might be called Origins, but that may confuse it with the set.
I honestly hope it starts in Origins - leave Collected Company out (if not - at least make it the first card on the banlist)
No, your point does not stand, at all. We have had multiple mechanics/cards over the years that cared about what kind of mana was spent to cast them. Going all the way back to Alpha with Drain Life (Spend only black mana on X), followed up in Ice Age with Soul Burn, not to mention Sunburst from Fifth Dawn and a cycle of hybrid cards from Shadowmoor like River's Grasp. It is nothing new. The only difference this time is that it cared about Colorless rather than colored mana.
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No, your point does not stand, at all. We have had multiple mechanics/cards over the years that cared about what kind of mana was spent to cast them. Going all the way back to Alpha with Drain Life (Spend only black mana on X), followed up in Ice Age with Soul Burn, not to mention Sunburst from Fifth Dawn and a cycle of hybrid cards from Shadowmoor like River's Grasp. It is nothing new. The only difference this time is that it cared about Colorless rather than colored mana.
Interesting that all your examples are of specific uses of coloured mana. Here I thought you were going to surprise me with some funky way that another type of mana was used that I had missed.
My point actually does stand - C is effectively like it's own colour for deckbuilding purposes (what sources you need to include in a deck, etc), the examples you use actually strengthen that point, not weaken it. Yes, it is not strictly a 'colour' in terms of Sunburst et all, which I consider to be semantics since yes, it is colourless. However it is pretty much it's own 'colour' for purposes of deckbuilding and determining what sources you need for deck building (and I believe I've consistently said "for deck building purposes" in several of my posts on the subject)
No, your point does not stand, at all. We have had multiple mechanics/cards over the years that cared about what kind of mana was spent to cast them. Going all the way back to Alpha with Drain Life (Spend only black mana on X), followed up in Ice Age with Soul Burn, not to mention Sunburst from Fifth Dawn and a cycle of hybrid cards from Shadowmoor like River's Grasp. It is nothing new. The only difference this time is that it cared about Colorless rather than colored mana.
Interesting that all your examples are of specific uses of coloured mana. Here I thought you were going to surprise me with some funky way that another type of mana was used that I had missed.
My point actually does stand - C is effectively like it's own colour for deckbuilding purposes (what sources you need to include in a deck, etc), the examples you use actually strengthen that point, not weaken it. Yes, it is not strictly a 'colour' in terms of Sunburst et all, which I consider to be semantics since yes, it is colourless. However it is pretty much it's own 'colour' for purposes of deckbuilding and determining what sources you need for deck building (and I believe I've consistently said "for deck building purposes" in several of my posts on the subject)
My point was that we have had cards that cared about the specific properties of mana for a very long time.
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But never in the specific casting cost. all of the examples I have seen in this thread debating the Waste symbol and colour CAN be played WITHOUT using those color specific properties. However, matter reshaper cannot be cast at all without playing cards that create a colorless source of mana, so in effect, it absolutely plays as a sixth color. you can't cast red cards in a deck with no cards to produce red mana, if those red cards have the mountain symbol in their casting cost. you cannot cast matter reshaper in a deck with no cards to produce colorless mana, because that card has the waste symbol in the casting cost. Logic dictates that the cards that require a colorless source to cast them are functionally their own color, making at least the cards with the waste symbol in their casting cost a 6th color.
But never in the specific casting cost. all of the examples I have seen in this thread debating the Waste symbol and colour CAN be played WITHOUT using those color specific properties. However, matter reshaper cannot be cast at all without playing cards that create a colorless source of mana, so in effect, it absolutely plays as a sixth color. you can't cast red cards in a deck with no cards to produce red mana, if those red cards have the mountain symbol in their casting cost. you cannot cast matter reshaper in a deck with no cards to produce colorless mana, because that card has the waste symbol in the casting cost. Logic dictates that the cards that require a colorless source to cast them are functionally their own color, making at least the cards with the waste symbol in their casting cost a 6th color.
One word: Sunburst.
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But never in the specific casting cost. all of the examples I have seen in this thread debating the Waste symbol and colour CAN be played WITHOUT using those color specific properties. However, matter reshaper cannot be cast at all without playing cards that create a colorless source of mana, so in effect, it absolutely plays as a sixth color. you can't cast red cards in a deck with no cards to produce red mana, if those red cards have the mountain symbol in their casting cost. you cannot cast matter reshaper in a deck with no cards to produce colorless mana, because that card has the waste symbol in the casting cost. Logic dictates that the cards that require a colorless source to cast them are functionally their own color, making at least the cards with the waste symbol in their casting cost a 6th color.
One word: Sunburst.
ya I've seen your argument before, yet it changes nothing. It's an old mechanic that sees no play, and is literally the only thing that prevents the 'waste' cards from being a sixth color. But like I said, it changes absolutely nothing; the 'waste' cards still can only be played as a sixth color, which trumps the technicality that it cant be used for sunburst or converge. whether or not you are technically correct, does not change how the game functions. you still cannot play matter reshaper without using mana specific to the symbol in its name, whether or not that specific mana can be used for 2 off the beaten path mechanics
But never in the specific casting cost. all of the examples I have seen in this thread debating the Waste symbol and colour CAN be played WITHOUT using those color specific properties. However, matter reshaper cannot be cast at all without playing cards that create a colorless source of mana, so in effect, it absolutely plays as a sixth color. you can't cast red cards in a deck with no cards to produce red mana, if those red cards have the mountain symbol in their casting cost. you cannot cast matter reshaper in a deck with no cards to produce colorless mana, because that card has the waste symbol in the casting cost. Logic dictates that the cards that require a colorless source to cast them are functionally their own color, making at least the cards with the waste symbol in their casting cost a 6th color.
One word: Sunburst.
ya I've seen your argument before, yet it changes nothing. It's an old mechanic that sees no play, and is literally the only thing that prevents the 'waste' cards from being a sixth color. But like I said, it changes absolutely nothing; the 'waste' cards still can only be played as a sixth color, which trumps the technicality that it cant be used for sunburst or converge. whether or not you are technically correct, does not change how the game functions. you still cannot play matter reshaper without using mana specific to the symbol in its name, whether or not that specific mana can be used for 2 off the beaten path mechanics
Completely not the point. The point is, that they have made cards that care about what kind of mana that was spent to play them before. Multiple times even.
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If we use card frames to arbitrarily show set legality I would like to discuss the the scope and purpose of the format. Scope as in do we expand to all newest framed prints of any card. For purpose to discuss just that; that is, what do we attempt to gain from this format? Are we simply following the idea of every new frame onward spawns a format or are we trying to increase the longevity of our standard investments. I admit I have the bias for a high ceiling format allowing for commander product and the alike to influence the format. I know many will not share this view. Even wotc time and time again uses those products to address older formats. However wotc even stated when they aim to impact a older format they do so with great force that leads to problematic cards now and again, but I believe for every single card that can be equated to a mistake there is an entire set that doesn't get utilized.
Sadly though most cards that get a new frame have no home even in their respected formats and I see fellow mages who buy product but really have no need for the bulk of their purchase and end up throwing away entire packs if the don't strike it big. With that said this is why I want to push for the entirety of new frame cards as a whole to allow exclusive deck development and interactions that wouldn't arise anywhere else. Essentially the specialty products would be equivalent to this formats core set as they would surely introduce new backbones for deck to flourish.
To address the elephant in the wake of allowing specialty product - obviously some sort of ban-list would need to emerge immediately as eternal master has force of will which is only beneficial if combo is rampant or is otherwise a hindrance. Furthermore with master pieces being a thing this puts even more absurd cards into the mix and thus an updated list would have to follow-suit there after but there is some cross over with specialty produce and master pieces such as sol ring which is highly dangerous. Lastly this another way to approach this would be for a slower rotation that was present in either interpretation of extended.
New frames (Magic 2015) is the easiest reference for what's legal and what's not. In 2020, no one is going to remember what order BFZ DTK ORI occurred in.
Oh my, I must admit this is quite the interesting turn about. My simple dream, and idea has actually metamorphosed into an actual format, all thanks to the wishful desire of others just like me who wanted to bring it to life. This community is truly remarkable, I am beyond excited about this result, and can't wait for this format to grow and expand; though, it's a shame I was never credited, I suppose that's just how life is sometimes. May all of you who play this format, and all other formats, have a blessed, and wonderful time. http://www.mtgfrontier.com/
This would be meh after pusing modern so much in the last few years with Modern Masters series and Modern reprints here and there in standard sets.
The fun part of modern is the power lever. That's why it's so fun, but the power lever comes with the possibility of reprinting everything in the format unlike Legacy, which is why the format has gotten a lot of love since it's inception.
I say push Modern more. Standard as is is the format for a less powerful format.
-Please put a new chose in the poll (ORIGINS)
-To me is the more reasonable beacuse is the starting point of new style of MTG history and cards balanced.
Had I known this actually would have taken off I probably would have put the origins option on the poll, as I feel that would have been the most opt starting point for the format to survive. =p
This would be meh after pusing modern so much in the last few years with Modern Masters series and Modern reprints here and there in standard sets.
The fun part of modern is the power lever. That's why it's so fun, but the power lever comes with the possibility of reprinting everything in the format unlike Legacy, which is why the format has gotten a lot of love since it's inception.
I say push Modern more. Standard as is is the format for a less powerful format.
They are supporting modern, but the issue is that they can't support it enough to make it affordable for players to really enter and play on a roughly even play field. That and modern has been broken mechanically for ages and eldrazi winter was basically the straw that broke the camels back. I don't think anyone seriously invested in modern is going to jump into Frontier, but for those who tried modern and haven't invested deeply, or disenfranchised standard players that want a format with more options, frontier is a good answer. I'm actually building up a quick build / tear down kit for Frontier at the moment using the hobby lobby artist case and this fellow with extra dividers...
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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I'm of the opinion that removing Modern from the Pro Tour basically confirms this, because it opens the door for the new format to slip in. They didn't make Modern from the ground-up to be a new format - which is why things like Boomerang and Lightning Bolt got grandfathered in. It created as a format for MTG:O out of necessity and became a paper thing afterwards too. This new format would be conceived from the ground-up as a new format - one without even Shock or Cancel.
I'm already planning what my deck will look like assuming that this is true.
He said 'basically'. It basically is - it's a new mana symbol in costs that requires a specific type of mana that even got it's own basic land. The semantics that it's not actually a colour doesn't remove the fact that it functions as a new colour in every practical way for deck building purposes - moreso than S ever did.
Except, although the symbol is new, what it represents is not. It is simply a visual distinction between colorless and generic, nothing more. There is nothing new about cards that require specific types of mana to be cast after all, we have had several mechanics that care about it over the years, some better than others.
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Quite the intriguing statements, GW2GuruUser7586 and frigis. When would the cut off point be? Would it begin at the start of the official rotation "Battle of Zendikar", or would it start at the last set to be shown in the double rotation bracket "Dragons of Tarkir", or would it start during the new border in "M15"? What do you guys think?
Honestly, I don't think it is going to happen any time soon, if at all. As the Conspiracy2 spoilers revealed so far have shown, and WotC have indicated, that even though some of the Modern staples are to powerful for standard, they are clearly aware of the fact and will reprint such cards in auxiliary products, making them easier to get for new modern players.
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Show me even one card with a casting cost that couldn't be paid with coloured mana and required it's own kind of mana. Since I know no such card exists, my point stands. For deck building purposes C is effectively it's own colour. S was a rider on top of another type of mana (and it's colour didn't even matter - it could be colourless or red or white or whatever) and also never appeard as the casting cost of a card - just on activated or triggered abilities. Phyrexian mana just gave you another way to pay instead of coloured mana.
While C has existed as a mana type forever (just a visual distinction moving forward) is had never been required (except maybe in a few fringe cases - I seem to recall one card in Antiquities?) and it is the only time such a restriction existed on the casting cost of a spell - which is the key reason if 'feels like' a new colour for every practical purpose.
As I said above - either Kahns (because that's the first set with the new frames) or Origins - because that would be the 'Origin point'. I half expect the new format might be called Origins, but that may confuse it with the set.
I honestly hope it starts in Origins - leave Collected Company out (if not - at least make it the first card on the banlist)
No, your point does not stand, at all. We have had multiple mechanics/cards over the years that cared about what kind of mana was spent to cast them. Going all the way back to Alpha with Drain Life (Spend only black mana on X), followed up in Ice Age with Soul Burn, not to mention Sunburst from Fifth Dawn and a cycle of hybrid cards from Shadowmoor like River's Grasp. It is nothing new. The only difference this time is that it cared about Colorless rather than colored mana.
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Interesting that all your examples are of specific uses of coloured mana. Here I thought you were going to surprise me with some funky way that another type of mana was used that I had missed.
My point actually does stand - C is effectively like it's own colour for deckbuilding purposes (what sources you need to include in a deck, etc), the examples you use actually strengthen that point, not weaken it. Yes, it is not strictly a 'colour' in terms of Sunburst et all, which I consider to be semantics since yes, it is colourless. However it is pretty much it's own 'colour' for purposes of deckbuilding and determining what sources you need for deck building (and I believe I've consistently said "for deck building purposes" in several of my posts on the subject)
My point was that we have had cards that cared about the specific properties of mana for a very long time.
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One word: Sunburst.
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ya I've seen your argument before, yet it changes nothing. It's an old mechanic that sees no play, and is literally the only thing that prevents the 'waste' cards from being a sixth color. But like I said, it changes absolutely nothing; the 'waste' cards still can only be played as a sixth color, which trumps the technicality that it cant be used for sunburst or converge. whether or not you are technically correct, does not change how the game functions. you still cannot play matter reshaper without using mana specific to the symbol in its name, whether or not that specific mana can be used for 2 off the beaten path mechanics
Completely not the point. The point is, that they have made cards that care about what kind of mana that was spent to play them before. Multiple times even.
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Sadly though most cards that get a new frame have no home even in their respected formats and I see fellow mages who buy product but really have no need for the bulk of their purchase and end up throwing away entire packs if the don't strike it big. With that said this is why I want to push for the entirety of new frame cards as a whole to allow exclusive deck development and interactions that wouldn't arise anywhere else. Essentially the specialty products would be equivalent to this formats core set as they would surely introduce new backbones for deck to flourish.
To address the elephant in the wake of allowing specialty product - obviously some sort of ban-list would need to emerge immediately as eternal master has force of will which is only beneficial if combo is rampant or is otherwise a hindrance. Furthermore with master pieces being a thing this puts even more absurd cards into the mix and thus an updated list would have to follow-suit there after but there is some cross over with specialty produce and master pieces such as sol ring which is highly dangerous. Lastly this another way to approach this would be for a slower rotation that was present in either interpretation of extended.
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New frames (Magic 2015) is the easiest reference for what's legal and what's not. In 2020, no one is going to remember what order BFZ DTK ORI occurred in.
Jeskai
4 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
4 Hangarback Walker
4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
4 Mantis Rider
3 Seeker of the Way
3 Treasure Cruise
4 Fiery Impulse
3 Jeskai Charm
3 Valorous Stance
1 Silkwrap
1 Canopy Vista
1 Cinder Glade
4 Flooded Strand
1 Island
2 Mountain
1 Mystic Monastery
2 Plains
2 Prairie Stream
4 Wooded Foothills
3 Wandering Fumarole
3 Windswept Heath
3 Spell Queller
Abzan
4 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
4 Anafenza, the Foremost
1 Nissa, Vastwood Seer
4 Hangarback Walker
4 Siege Rhino
3 Warden of the First Tree
1 Wingmate Roc
2 Abzan Charm
4 Dromoka's Command
1 Murderous Cut
2 Canopy Vista
4 Flooded Strand
2 Forest
2 Llanowar Wastes
2 Plains
4 Shambling Vent
1 Smoldering Marsh
1 Sunken Hollow
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Windswept Heath
4 Sylvan Advocate
2 Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
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The fun part of modern is the power lever. That's why it's so fun, but the power lever comes with the possibility of reprinting everything in the format unlike Legacy, which is why the format has gotten a lot of love since it's inception.
I say push Modern more. Standard as is is the format for a less powerful format.
They are supporting modern, but the issue is that they can't support it enough to make it affordable for players to really enter and play on a roughly even play field. That and modern has been broken mechanically for ages and eldrazi winter was basically the straw that broke the camels back. I don't think anyone seriously invested in modern is going to jump into Frontier, but for those who tried modern and haven't invested deeply, or disenfranchised standard players that want a format with more options, frontier is a good answer. I'm actually building up a quick build / tear down kit for Frontier at the moment using the hobby lobby artist case and this fellow with extra dividers...
card organizer for wooden case.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!