Exactly, Gutterstorm. And I definitely would agree that "oh no, no more [kin]-trees = no green in 'abzan' anymore" is quite silly.
I'm not as sure about the Naga and Rakshasa providing most or all of the Sultai's Black color, but I think that's partially right.
As for Lightning Shrieker and common dragons for DTK - I hope we're both right. I'd really like to see some at common - even if they are 4+ cmc.
We didn´t even have that many dragons in Fate Reforged which were on a plane back in time where dragons were alive. Wizards even said that it was the set with the most dragons in it.
It had common and uncommon dragons so in that sense there were a lot of dragons because I think the count was 11 dragons which is more than 2 per color (5 rare allied color dragons, 5 uncommon mono color dragons, and one common dragon)
In that sense its possible they could still do up to two dragon cycles still and have that be true. I theink realistically speaking we should be expecting in the area of another 5 (another cycle) out of the last set. You might possibly see more dragon influenced cards still yet but that means we will be in the 5-10 dragons range in all likelihood for the final set.
It was meant up to that point in time, meaning that Dragons will have the most dragons in a set. I feel it was on Maro's blog or someone's twitter. Aaron Forsythe maybe?
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From the Stories it sounds like They are breaking up to 2 color's. [+rest of your post]
That's not that true. You interpret it the way you want but the lore points way more on monocolor than allied pairs.
I do not know what you smoke, but it must be a good material.
It's just that, like many others, you refuse to believe wotc would have the brood leaders in a FRF have a color which is not part of their factions' identities.
Because that makes quite zero sense for any reasonable individual.
First, the Abzan killing kin-trees means they are giving up green, dromoka calling these 'necromancy' tells us this means quitting black also
Fundamental misunderstanding of lore on your part. No wonder you pursue the phantasmagories of lore hinting on monocolor...
Mechanically it's also interesting to point out that each khan having an hybrid activation cost on their ability, this means all of them have a magical aspect that is both these colors, so if the clan leader is giving up one color, he should be giving up the other.
Why on Earth? How did you come to these more and more ridiculous conclusions?
It is very consistent with Daghatar's story, as he kills kin-trees (trees, so green, and ancestors/malevolent spirits, so black also) and shatter his mace at the same time,
Kin-trees are not as much trees as beacons for binding the ancestors. Really, read all the lore, not only the pieces that suit you...
meaning he is also giving up his own 'necromancy' aspect, which is his (B/G) ability. Yasova offering the smilodon's she controls to Atarka as a picnic could also be interpreted as her giving up her (U/R) aspect giving up rearing.
And another blatant lie. Yasova did not offer her smilodon, but a mammoth.... And again...even if I accept your nonsensical concept...how is Yasova "offering" anything to Atarka even remotely blue and/or red?
The lore is definetely leaning towards monoC. But I admit it's weird to have FRF's dragon cycle 2c if that's the case, so I can't rule out 'allied pairs'. I'd say 70-30 it's going to be monoC.
More like 5-95, but whatever. I am really curious what you come up next.
It has been made very clear that WotC wants the wedges to be identified by these clan names so they're not going to change the clans into allied color pairs or switch to shards or anything of the sort.
A lot of evidence points to the idea that Abzan loses the black.
Abzan is defined as GWB.
Your conclusion: Abzan cannot lose a color.
I agree with you on that.
My conclusion: The clan will continue as the Dromoka clan.
They even have a watermark for that already.
Remember how KTK had 5 watermarks, FRF had 10, and DTK needs to continue FRF, so the 5 dragon marks makes perfect sense.
A lot of evidence points to the idea that Abzan loses the black.
Abzan is defined as GWB.
Your conclusion: Abzan cannot lose a color.
I agree with you on that.
My conclusion: The clan will continue as the Dromoka clan.
They even have a watermark for that already.
Remember how KTK had 5 watermarks, FRF had 10, and DTK needs to continue FRF, so the 5 dragon marks makes perfect sense.
That's basically my point. If they change the color combination in DTK to anything other than wedges then they will not include the clans from KTK at all.
Not to mention eliminating the Clans by the time of DTK helps establish the theme of change the block was designed around.
KTK = Clans, no Dragons.
FRF = Clans and Dragons.
DTK = Dragons, no Clans.
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I'm not as sure about the Naga and Rakshasa providing most or all of the Sultai's Black color, but I think that's partially right.
As for Lightning Shrieker and common dragons for DTK - I hope we're both right. I'd really like to see some at common - even if they are 4+ cmc.
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It was meant up to that point in time, meaning that Dragons will have the most dragons in a set. I feel it was on Maro's blog or someone's twitter. Aaron Forsythe maybe?
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Because that makes quite zero sense for any reasonable individual.
Fundamental misunderstanding of lore on your part. No wonder you pursue the phantasmagories of lore hinting on monocolor...
Why on Earth? How did you come to these more and more ridiculous conclusions?
Kin-trees are not as much trees as beacons for binding the ancestors. Really, read all the lore, not only the pieces that suit you...
And another blatant lie. Yasova did not offer her smilodon, but a mammoth.... And again...even if I accept your nonsensical concept...how is Yasova "offering" anything to Atarka even remotely blue and/or red?
More like 5-95, but whatever. I am really curious what you come up next.
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A lot of evidence points to the idea that Abzan loses the black.
Abzan is defined as GWB.
Your conclusion: Abzan cannot lose a color.
I agree with you on that.
My conclusion: The clan will continue as the Dromoka clan.
They even have a watermark for that already.
Remember how KTK had 5 watermarks, FRF had 10, and DTK needs to continue FRF, so the 5 dragon marks makes perfect sense.
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That's basically my point. If they change the color combination in DTK to anything other than wedges then they will not include the clans from KTK at all.
KTK = Clans, no Dragons.
FRF = Clans and Dragons.
DTK = Dragons, no Clans.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.