What are the chances? If we get legendary enemy-color dragons, then all the tribes will be represented for 2 and 3 color (even 4 & 5 color mixes) dragon decks.
Personally, it would be a welcome sight.
What would you like to see on them that is already an evergreen keyword or a keyword specifically found in Khans block (like a black/green dragon with delve).
I dunno, I thought about this myself but to me, nothing thus far seems to be set up for 10 factions. I just don't see it in anything we have from KTK and FRF. Question, could Tarkir Dragons have Annihilator? Cause if so I want to see that. :3
What birdOparodise said (well not Annihilator) but everything we have seen points to allies as well as Maro saying their where gonna be 5 five fractions in DTK, so unless the broods suddenly turn into enemy colored fractions I'm saying 0%.
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There may come a time when we get to see new enemy-colored Dragons, possibly upon returning to Tarkir, but I'm fairly certain the Dragon legends of DTK will be ally-colored just as they were in FRF. I see the most likely scenario being similar to the Guild Leaders and Champions/Runners of Ravnica: One cycle uses CCDD and the other uses CD. It's similar to how the Khans evolved from being monocolor with hybrid abilities to wedge multicolor in the original timeline; the identity of the triumphant faction is further enforced in the present. And just as the FRF Khans were Rare while the KTK Khans were Mythic, so too will the Dragon legends of DTK be Mythic in contrast to FRF's rares and more representative of their respective colors. The FRF Dragons were still splashable, easily played with a third color. The DTK Dragons? Likely not so much. To play them, you'll have to commit to their colors. The Brood factions should still be relatively easy to play together though, just as the Guilds of Ravnica are.
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Mythic khans are not happening in Dragons of Tarkir, certainly not before mythic Dragons. If the KTK crew return, they will most likely be rare to represent their reduced significance barring the proposed Narset planeswalker.
I don't see what the problem is with ally-color mythic Dragons; the rare Dragons in FRF weren't that splashy, a mythic cycle can certainly surpass them in "wow" factor as mythics should. Being the same colors is not going to make them redundant. For starters, we haven't seen the Ojutai, Silumgar, or Atarka mechanics yet so those three Mythics will have something new right there, and the Dromoka and Kolaghan followups might be able to put a spin on Bolster and Dash respectively.
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Redundant to me would be a Dragon that does something very similar to the FRF counterpart, and I am not talking about mana costs. A mythic Kolaghan could just as easily grant Dash to each creature card in your hand, with the usual "the keyword cost is equal to its mana cost" clause. Or perhaps it allows creatures to deal damage on the attack, a development of what FRF's Kolaghan does and not just a rehash. Or maybe it even allows you to destroy artifacts and/or creatures whenever a creature you control attacks. It's going to support a similar aggressive strategy, sure, but it doesn't have to do so the exact same way the FRF Dragon did.
Mythic Dromoka could say something like "Each creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it has indestructible." That's pretty worthy of a mythic Dragon, isn't it? Or she could even do something like destroy each creature without a +1/+1 counter on it, though I get the feeling that would be saved for a Wrath sorcery instead.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Indestructible is primarily a green/white ability, and Dromoka is centered on white anyway. Perhaps "Whenever ~ or another creature enters the battlefield under your control, bolster 2"? That way, it's an evolution of what Dromoka, the Eternal did in FRF, much like with the Mythic counterpart to Kolaghan.
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I'd say it's highly unlikely. The current dragon broods are ally-colored, so the most reasonable directions for the inevitable legendary dragon leader cycle of DTK would be to remain in ally colors but expand their abilities to aid all of your creatures rather than just other dragons, or gain a third color (which would have to be shard colors since "this is not a wedge set" has been repeated to death by WotC employees) as they grow and expand their domains. If the main dragons do go shard colored I suppose it wouldn't be too far-fetched for a lieutenant dragon of sorts for each brood in enemy colors, but I think if that happened it would be better served as a way to show off the important non-dragon characters in each brood, since I don't think there's any chance of getting more than two cycles of legendary creatures in one set and one has to be the dragon leaders.
Going mono-colored would feel wrong, since growth and evolution (the 1280 years we are about to skip over) are generally shown by adding something, not taking something away. Why would they become more narrow after gaining more power and larger domains? Going enemy colored would similarly feel wrong and just shoe-horned in, as it would require the dragons to completely shift their philosophies by replacing a color not just expand or narrow them.
What are the chances? If we get legendary enemy-color dragons, then all the tribes will be represented for 2 and 3 color (even 4 & 5 color mixes) dragon decks.
Personally, it would be a welcome sight.
What would you like to see on them that is already an evergreen keyword or a keyword specifically found in Khans block (like a black/green dragon with delve).
DTK is going to have 5 factions. Where exactly the enemy color dragons fit into it?
Delve, prowess and ferocious are not returning in DTK.
This would be the perfect chance to reprint Teneb, the Harvester and his friends.
Except that it makes even less than zero sense flavorwise. The dragons are from alternate timeline DOMINARIA, not Tarkir (and before anybody starts that c**p again, Tarkir and Dominaria are two separate planes.
What birdOparodise said (well not Annihilator) but everything we have seen points to allies as well as Maro saying their where gonna be 5 five fractions in DTK, so unless the broods suddenly turn into enemy colored fractions I'm saying 0%.
Agreed on the 0% but not on the 'everything points to allies' part. Most of the speculation leading to allied broods is because of FRF's legendary dragon cycle and it's not enough to validate anything.
Yes. Of course. For example, the fact that each KTK clan has only one enemy colored card in FRF does obviously not mean anything. /sarcasm
Seriously, are you doing this because you wanna differ whatever it costs?
Sorry, but no. Not only is DTK explicitly not going to be wedge-focused but the Oros cycle from Time Spiral doesn't belong on Tarkir, they're timeshifted equivalents of the Treva cycle from Invasion. They don't even work all that well with the Clans; Intet and Teneb play with Temur and Abzan respectively well enough I suppose but neither Oloro nor Numot have any synergy with Mardu or Jeskai respectively and Vorosh is in the wrong faction for +1/+1 counters. If they were going to print Wedge Dragons, I would expect a new cycle with abilities better tailored for the corresponding factions.
For the time being we at least have Niv-Mizzet to provide Commander players with a UR Dragon legend.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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The set is called Dragons of Tarkir, therefore the Mythic legend cycle of the set should be Dragons. The new cycle can show how the Broodlords gained strength and influence across Tarkir; Ojutai now provides tutelage for the non-Dragon members of his Brood, for example. If the former Khans get legend cards, they'll most likely be Rare much like the FRF Khans.
And following the recent UR, it appears that certain former Khans like Zurgo have settled into Brood society, so they definitely won't be wedge. My guess is monocolor perhaps with an off-color ability.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Personally, it would be a welcome sight.
What would you like to see on them that is already an evergreen keyword or a keyword specifically found in Khans block (like a black/green dragon with delve).
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I don't see what the problem is with ally-color mythic Dragons; the rare Dragons in FRF weren't that splashy, a mythic cycle can certainly surpass them in "wow" factor as mythics should. Being the same colors is not going to make them redundant. For starters, we haven't seen the Ojutai, Silumgar, or Atarka mechanics yet so those three Mythics will have something new right there, and the Dromoka and Kolaghan followups might be able to put a spin on Bolster and Dash respectively.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Redundant to me would be a Dragon that does something very similar to the FRF counterpart, and I am not talking about mana costs. A mythic Kolaghan could just as easily grant Dash to each creature card in your hand, with the usual "the keyword cost is equal to its mana cost" clause. Or perhaps it allows creatures to deal damage on the attack, a development of what FRF's Kolaghan does and not just a rehash. Or maybe it even allows you to destroy artifacts and/or creatures whenever a creature you control attacks. It's going to support a similar aggressive strategy, sure, but it doesn't have to do so the exact same way the FRF Dragon did.
Mythic Dromoka could say something like "Each creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it has indestructible." That's pretty worthy of a mythic Dragon, isn't it? Or she could even do something like destroy each creature without a +1/+1 counter on it, though I get the feeling that would be saved for a Wrath sorcery instead.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Going mono-colored would feel wrong, since growth and evolution (the 1280 years we are about to skip over) are generally shown by adding something, not taking something away. Why would they become more narrow after gaining more power and larger domains? Going enemy colored would similarly feel wrong and just shoe-horned in, as it would require the dragons to completely shift their philosophies by replacing a color not just expand or narrow them.
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DTK is going to have 5 factions. Where exactly the enemy color dragons fit into it?
Delve, prowess and ferocious are not returning in DTK.
Except that it makes even less than zero sense flavorwise. The dragons are from alternate timeline DOMINARIA, not Tarkir (and before anybody starts that c**p again, Tarkir and Dominaria are two separate planes.
Yes. Of course. For example, the fact that each KTK clan has only one enemy colored card in FRF does obviously not mean anything. /sarcasm
Seriously, are you doing this because you wanna differ whatever it costs?
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
For the time being we at least have Niv-Mizzet to provide Commander players with a UR Dragon legend.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I find it more likely to see alternative khans, to mirror KTK.
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And following the recent UR, it appears that certain former Khans like Zurgo have settled into Brood society, so they definitely won't be wedge. My guess is monocolor perhaps with an off-color ability.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
So, what do the naysayers above have to say now? Would you like some ice cream a la mode with that hot, steaming slice of humble pie???
Hate to end your victory lap, but where do you see enemy colored dragons?
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