Seems to me we could definitely get some new Lotus in this block.
I can't believe I didn't think about this until just now...I mean...Monks and all.
I'd expect it somehow ties into the whole Soulfire/Colorless mana, seeing as how that's Jeskai's ultimate state of enlightenment or whatever. Also Ugin.
Gilded Lotus or a variant thereof would be fitting, but one that taps for three mana of any combination of colors would probably cost at least or feature some kind of drawback. Perhaps something like this:
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Artifact
: Add to your mana pool.
, Sacrifice ~: Add three mana in any combination of colors to your mana pool.
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I think we get something maybe in name, but I don't think it is likely. Maybe we get a spell called like Petals of the Lotus or something, but not a mana maker.
When scars came out it, it was so damn obvious that we were getting a mox that WOTC basically had to make one or deal with a ton of pissy people, but in this set I don't have that same feeling.
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Ugin's Lotus Pond Legendary Land t: Add 1 to your mana pool.
Exile Ugin's Lotus Pond, t: Add 3 to your mana pool, use this mana only to cast colorless spells, play face down morphs, or pay the costs to flip a morph or manifested creature. 2: You may play Ugin's Lotus Pond from exile this turn. You may activate this ability from the exile zone and only as a sorcery.
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Ugin's Lotus Pond Legendary Land t: Add 1 to your mana pool.
Exile Ugin's Lotus Pond, t: Add 3 to your mana pool, use this mana only to cast colorless spells, play face down morphs, or pay the costs to flip a morph or manifested creature. You may not use this ability unless you control at least 2 basic lands. 2: You may play Ugin's Lotus Pond from exile this turn. You may activate this ability from the exile zone and only as a sorcery.
Ugin's Lotus Pond Legendary Land t: Add 1 to your mana pool.
Exile Ugin's Lotus Pond, t: Add 3 to your mana pool, use this mana only to cast colorless spells, play face down morphs, or pay the costs to flip a morph or manifested creature. 2: You may play Ugin's Lotus Pond from exile this turn. You may activate this ability from the exile zone and only as a sorcery.
I feel this is the kind of land that should ETB tapped.
I had thought it may have been possible to see a lotus with Delve in FRF. Since we didn't, I doubt we'll see one in Dragons of Tarkir unless it somehow works with one of the other mechanics introduced there.
Lotuses are almost ALWAYS busted. I really hope we don't see one since its typically combo fodder. Also I think it's a real stretch to say it's likely just cause another card references a lotus.
I would love to see a delve lotus, but it would either come as such a high mana cost as to be unusable, or would promptly be banned when they realize what a mistake they made.
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Wizards does support combo. Jeskai is practically the combo clan of Tarkir. That combined with their affinity for noncreature spells makes me think a Tarkir Lotus should lean towards Jeskai moreso than Sultai, but obviously such a card should be available to all factions. Most Lotus variants we've seen either tap for one mana or provide three mana of one color, though, while I would want to see a mana rock that provides three mana in any combination. Then again, DTK won't expressly focus on wedges, so a typical lotus would probably work. In which case, I say reprint Gilded Lotus. That, or finally create the fixed Black Lotus, what the original Lotus should have been costed at. Then you support Delve as well as Prowess.
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Artifact
, Sacrifice ~: Add three mana of one color to your mana pool.
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Just so everyone knows, Lotuses are just part of Asian culture, and Lotus-Eye Mystics is just a "timeshifted" version of Dragon-Style Twins, Doug confirmed it on his Tumblr today. Don't expect a lotus.
I'd like to see a Gilded Lotus variant that costs like 6 but can add three mana of any color combination to your mama pool. It would work well with all of the clans.
A new lotus would be nice, but I, myself, would like to see a new mox or a new variation of sol ring or Thran dynamo, since those cards are both very powerful.
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It would be disappointing if it was very weak, but there's no reason they can't print a lotus card that isn't incredibly busted. Look at Gilded Lotus and Lotus Cobra, for example.
As for the speculation side of things, sign me up for the "eeh sure why not?" camp.
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You just made every Storm player in the universe soil their pants with excitement. That thing is beyond broken. Situationally it's a sorcery speed Dark Ritual in better colors.
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Seems to me we could definitely get some new Lotus in this block.
I can't believe I didn't think about this until just now...I mean...Monks and all.
I'd expect it somehow ties into the whole Soulfire/Colorless mana, seeing as how that's Jeskai's ultimate state of enlightenment or whatever. Also Ugin.
Been several years since we got a new one, right?
What say you?
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Best you could do is something like a one-shot Mishra's Workshop, which would still be busted.
Maybe
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T: Add 3 to your mana pool. This mana cannot be used to pay for colored mana costs.
So it's good for generic mana, artifacts, and paying for Morph.
I'll point out that the above is still probably insane.
It's been over 8 years since the last one, so maybe it's time:
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Artifact
: Add to your mana pool.
, Sacrifice ~: Add three mana in any combination of colors to your mana pool.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
When scars came out it, it was so damn obvious that we were getting a mox that WOTC basically had to make one or deal with a ton of pissy people, but in this set I don't have that same feeling.
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May seem crappy to you. Actually very strong. Would probably have to get banned in modern.
Legendary Land
t: Add 1 to your mana pool.
Exile Ugin's Lotus Pond, t: Add 3 to your mana pool, use this mana only to cast colorless spells, play face down morphs, or pay the costs to flip a morph or manifested creature.
2: You may play Ugin's Lotus Pond from exile this turn. You may activate this ability from the exile zone and only as a sorcery.
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Ugin's Lotus Pond
Legendary Land
t: Add 1 to your mana pool.
Exile Ugin's Lotus Pond, t: Add 3 to your mana pool, use this mana only to cast colorless spells, play face down morphs, or pay the costs to flip a morph or manifested creature. You may not use this ability unless you control at least 2 basic lands.
2: You may play Ugin's Lotus Pond from exile this turn. You may activate this ability from the exile zone and only as a sorcery.
I feel this is the kind of land that should ETB tapped.
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Equipped creature has "Unattach Lotus Eye Medallion: Add 2 to your mana pool.
Equip: 2
I really like this. I hope it happens.
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Artifact
, Sacrifice ~: Add three mana of one color to your mana pool.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Enchantment
Delve
Exile Lotus Mind: Add three mana of any one color to your mana pool.
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This would be incredibly strong and would be instantly banned in Modern.
As for the speculation side of things, sign me up for the "eeh sure why not?" camp.
You just made every Storm player in the universe soil their pants with excitement. That thing is beyond broken. Situationally it's a sorcery speed Dark Ritual in better colors.
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