I'm sure the Reserve List will go away eventually, when whoever they've made whatever settlement with suing them will cost them less money than they'll gain.
This is why suing or fining corporations rarely does anything. If they weren't going to make more money than they would later lose, they wouldn't have done whatever it was in the first place.
As I said earlier, suing WotC over abolishing the reserved list wouldn't actually do anything other than get thrown out by the first judge that looks at the case. Particularly if WotC has changed policy beforehand.
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It's about time for the reserved list to die, for the sake of Vintage and Legacy (And Commander).
"ABUR dual lands would hurt modern" is the funniest thing I read in this thread. Modern was born because of the reserved list. That's the sole reason. I'd wager that a great many people would enjoy legacy and by extension vintage more than modern but they cannot afford it.
As for value of old dual lands? Maybe revised ones would drop due to a reprint. And the same with unlimited. But alpha, beta, summer, or miscut ones? Not going to lose a cent, if anything they would gain tremendously. See: shivan dragon and birds of paradise. Both have been reprinted more times than I can count. Alpha and beta versions are worth an arm and a leg though. Unless WotC reprinted alpha/beta as sets with the old frame, exact same coloring and textboxes/you couldn't tell the difference between beta 1 and beta 2. But that would never happen in a million years.
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I'm sure the Reserve List will go away eventually, when whoever they've made whatever settlement with suing them will cost them less money than they'll gain.
This is why suing or fining corporations rarely does anything. If they weren't going to make more money than they would later lose, they wouldn't have done whatever it was in the first place.
As I said earlier, suing WotC over abolishing the reserved list wouldn't actually do anything other than get thrown out by the first judge that looks at the case. Particularly if WotC has changed policy beforehand.
Unless they have an actual contractual agreement with someone that they aren't allowed to discuss, as seems to be the case given what MaRo has said on the topic. No, any shmuck wouldn't be able to sue them just because their Black Lotus went down a few cents, but someone they've made a binding legal agreement with could.
There is no other remotely rational reason for them to continue to uphold the reserve list otherwise. Players who want it to stick around are such a vast minority that it's almost impossible to find anyone supporting it (That one guy earlier in the thread is the only person I've seen do so in years), it's heavily detrimental to the game, both to older formats that don't get reprints and newer formats that might like to see some of those cards legal, and and no corporation likes not being able to make money off of their IP. Either there's a legal issue we aren't aware of, or Wizards is run by incompetent fools.
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whether they would win or lose I don't really care much. It would still cost them more than it would be worth simply because someone would attempt to take action and they would have to fight it. fighting the battle is costly win or lose and it's bad publicity. They're product will sell whether they maintain or break the reserve list, and my point is simply that they have more at risk in the breaking of the reserve list than in keeping it. I believe that Legacy eventually will go the way of vintage and be replaced by modern, and as a legacy player it saddens me a little, but I see WoTC doing other things to support legacy that still allow them to keep their promise regarding the reserve list and I respect that. These actions should allow legacy to survive long enough to prevent any backlash and allow a clean transition to modern. But what good reason is there for WoTC to break that promise? it's not going to increase their player base or sales, and stands to lose them quite a lot. Standard is what increases the number of players and drives their sales. Breaking a promise to their long standing players to open the floodgates to legacy is not something that would benefit them in any way.
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whether they would win or lose I don't really care much. It would still cost them more than it would be worth simply because someone would attempt to take action and they would have to fight it. fighting the battle is costly win or lose and it's bad publicity. They're product will sell whether they maintain or break the reserve list, and my point is simply that they have more at risk in the breaking of the reserve list than in keeping it. I believe that Legacy eventually will go the way of vintage and be replaced by modern, and as a legacy player it saddens me a little, but I see WoTC doing other things to support legacy that still allow them to keep their promise regarding the reserve list and I respect that. These actions should allow legacy to survive long enough to prevent any backlash and allow a clean transition to modern. But what good reason is there for WoTC to break that promise? it's not going to increase their player base or sales, and stands to lose them quite a lot. Standard is what increases the number of players and drives their sales. Breaking a promise to their long standing players to open the floodgates to legacy is not something that would benefit them in any way.
And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
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It's about time for the reserved list to die, for the sake of Vintage and Legacy (And Commander).
whether they would win or lose I don't really care much. It would still cost them more than it would be worth simply because someone would attempt to take action and they would have to fight it. fighting the battle is costly win or lose and it's bad publicity. They're product will sell whether they maintain or break the reserve list, and my point is simply that they have more at risk in the breaking of the reserve list than in keeping it. I believe that Legacy eventually will go the way of vintage and be replaced by modern, and as a legacy player it saddens me a little, but I see WoTC doing other things to support legacy that still allow them to keep their promise regarding the reserve list and I respect that. These actions should allow legacy to survive long enough to prevent any backlash and allow a clean transition to modern. But what good reason is there for WoTC to break that promise? it's not going to increase their player base or sales, and stands to lose them quite a lot. Standard is what increases the number of players and drives their sales. Breaking a promise to their long standing players to open the floodgates to legacy is not something that would benefit them in any way.
And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
That is most of it, but it's not just about corporate image. A lot of people got out after chronicles because it offset things too much and people couldn't justify putting the money into the game that they were if there was no consideration to the collectible nature of the cards and keeping those collectors in mind. WoTC was really close to going out of business shortly after that because they did exactly what the people who are so opposed to the reserve list want them to do again. WoTC learned from this mistake. It's just a lot of the players now, especially those who speak so loudly against the reserve list weren't there to see the impact the first time and really see how bad it was for the game. I've been playing since 93 or 94 (somewhere in there). I played before the DCI existed and a lot of things were different then. Although I got out of the game for a number of years and then came back, and partly because of this, I find that I can fully appreciate what WoTC is doing in respect to the reserve list and their reprint policies.
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I'm pretty sure that "We care more about our game actually being played than we do about people who whine about the price of their cardboard" would be entirely good publicity.
Also, if it were just "We don't want to because we don't want to upset people", then MaRo could just say that.
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whether they would win or lose I don't really care much. It would still cost them more than it would be worth simply because someone would attempt to take action and they would have to fight it. fighting the battle is costly win or lose and it's bad publicity. They're product will sell whether they maintain or break the reserve list, and my point is simply that they have more at risk in the breaking of the reserve list than in keeping it. I believe that Legacy eventually will go the way of vintage and be replaced by modern, and as a legacy player it saddens me a little, but I see WoTC doing other things to support legacy that still allow them to keep their promise regarding the reserve list and I respect that. These actions should allow legacy to survive long enough to prevent any backlash and allow a clean transition to modern. But what good reason is there for WoTC to break that promise? it's not going to increase their player base or sales, and stands to lose them quite a lot. Standard is what increases the number of players and drives their sales. Breaking a promise to their long standing players to open the floodgates to legacy is not something that would benefit them in any way.
And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
That is most of it, but it's not just about corporate image. A lot of people got out after chronicles because it offset things too much and people couldn't justify putting the money into the game that they were if there was no consideration to the collectible nature of the cards and keeping those collectors in mind. WoTC was really close to going out of business shortly after that because they did exactly what the people who are so opposed to the reserve list want them to do again. WoTC learned from this mistake. It's just a lot of the players now, especially those who speak so loudly against the reserve list weren't there to see the impact the first time and really see how bad it was for the game. I've been playing since 93 or 94 (somewhere in there). I played before the DCI existed and a lot of things were different then. Although I got out of the game for a number of years and then came back, and partly because of this, I find that I can fully appreciate what WoTC is doing in respect to the reserve list and their reprint policies.
Most of the people who complained where collectors, the vast majority of which didn't actually play the game, some of them never had.
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It's about time for the reserved list to die, for the sake of Vintage and Legacy (And Commander).
whether they would win or lose I don't really care much. It would still cost them more than it would be worth simply because someone would attempt to take action and they would have to fight it. fighting the battle is costly win or lose and it's bad publicity. They're product will sell whether they maintain or break the reserve list, and my point is simply that they have more at risk in the breaking of the reserve list than in keeping it. I believe that Legacy eventually will go the way of vintage and be replaced by modern, and as a legacy player it saddens me a little, but I see WoTC doing other things to support legacy that still allow them to keep their promise regarding the reserve list and I respect that. These actions should allow legacy to survive long enough to prevent any backlash and allow a clean transition to modern. But what good reason is there for WoTC to break that promise? it's not going to increase their player base or sales, and stands to lose them quite a lot. Standard is what increases the number of players and drives their sales. Breaking a promise to their long standing players to open the floodgates to legacy is not something that would benefit them in any way.
And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
That is most of it, but it's not just about corporate image. A lot of people got out after chronicles because it offset things too much and people couldn't justify putting the money into the game that they were if there was no consideration to the collectible nature of the cards and keeping those collectors in mind. WoTC was really close to going out of business shortly after that because they did exactly what the people who are so opposed to the reserve list want them to do again. WoTC learned from this mistake. It's just a lot of the players now, especially those who speak so loudly against the reserve list weren't there to see the impact the first time and really see how bad it was for the game. I've been playing since 93 or 94 (somewhere in there). I played before the DCI existed and a lot of things were different then. Although I got out of the game for a number of years and then came back, and partly because of this, I find that I can fully appreciate what WoTC is doing in respect to the reserve list and their reprint policies.
Again, if you look at how a lot of cards not on the list are worth a lot of money, enough that people are collecting them similarly, you should see that having the option to reprint them would not mean that they would just stick them in boosters. Most of the money cards wouldn't see print outside of special, limited print things like FTV and a paper vintage masters (if that). It would free them up by allowing cards that shouldn't have been put on the list in the first place to be printed.
whether they would win or lose I don't really care much. It would still cost them more than it would be worth simply because someone would attempt to take action and they would have to fight it. fighting the battle is costly win or lose and it's bad publicity. They're product will sell whether they maintain or break the reserve list, and my point is simply that they have more at risk in the breaking of the reserve list than in keeping it. I believe that Legacy eventually will go the way of vintage and be replaced by modern, and as a legacy player it saddens me a little, but I see WoTC doing other things to support legacy that still allow them to keep their promise regarding the reserve list and I respect that. These actions should allow legacy to survive long enough to prevent any backlash and allow a clean transition to modern. But what good reason is there for WoTC to break that promise? it's not going to increase their player base or sales, and stands to lose them quite a lot. Standard is what increases the number of players and drives their sales. Breaking a promise to their long standing players to open the floodgates to legacy is not something that would benefit them in any way.
And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
That is most of it, but it's not just about corporate image. A lot of people got out after chronicles because it offset things too much and people couldn't justify putting the money into the game that they were if there was no consideration to the collectible nature of the cards and keeping those collectors in mind. WoTC was really close to going out of business shortly after that because they did exactly what the people who are so opposed to the reserve list want them to do again. WoTC learned from this mistake. It's just a lot of the players now, especially those who speak so loudly against the reserve list weren't there to see the impact the first time and really see how bad it was for the game. I've been playing since 93 or 94 (somewhere in there). I played before the DCI existed and a lot of things were different then. Although I got out of the game for a number of years and then came back, and partly because of this, I find that I can fully appreciate what WoTC is doing in respect to the reserve list and their reprint policies.
Again, if you look at how a lot of cards not on the list are worth a lot of money, enough that people are collecting them similarly, you should see that having the option to reprint them would not mean that they would just stick them in boosters. Most of the money cards wouldn't see print outside of special, limited print things like FTV and a paper vintage masters (if that). It would free them up by allowing cards that shouldn't have been put on the list in the first place to be printed.
But if they do that it would create the fear that they would remove other cards that shouldn't be removed. While I don't think Tracker belongs on the list and would have been really cool now that his ability is a keyword. The power of creatures has improved enough that it's easy enough to get around the ones that don't belong by printing something better. A lot of others have different rules that don't make sense with modern cards and are better off just being adjusted into something that works better with what's out now. This allows for what would be an almost functional reprint and none of this violates reserve.
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But if they do that it would create the fear that they would remove other cards that shouldn't be removed. While I don't think Tracker belongs on the list and would have been really cool now that his ability is a keyword. The power of creatures has improved enough that it's easy enough to get around the ones that don't belong by printing something better. A lot of others have different rules that don't make sense with modern cards and are better off just being adjusted into something that works better with what's out now. This allows for what would be an almost functional reprint and none of this violates reserve.
I disagree. There isn't fear that cards like Tarmagoyf and JtMS will be printed to the point of substantially reducing their costs, and having the list abolished (Note: ALL the cards are off it, as it's gone completely) would not create fear about the high profile cards losing significant value. It would allow wizards to do cool things like give Judge promo black lotuses if they wanted to, which would have next to no effect on the cost of any other lotus.
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"Cycling: Exile top 3 cards from the Library to draw a card"
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"Cycling: Exile 3 cards from your Hand to draw a card"
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"Cycling: Exile top 3 cards from the Library or 3 cards at random from the Graveyard to draw a card"
So if I understand this talk about the reserve list correctly, they could print strictly better duals if they wanted to? Like something that gives one life when it enters the battlefield? If they put it in a Conspiracy-like product it wouldn't even affect Standard and Modern.
Just imagine all the speculator tears.
Technically, yes.
Realistically, probably not going to happen ever.
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And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
Nonsense. Changing/Modifying/Abolishing the Reserve List at this point would *improve* their corporate image, not hurt it. If they could change it, they would. Worrying about their image has nothing to do with it. When someone says "I can't tell you why, and I can't tell you why I can't tell you why" it is almost invariably because a lawyer told them so. The only logical explanation for why they have to tread so lightly around the Reserve List, is because WotC's lawyers honestly believe that not doing so will expose them to one or more very expensive lawsuits.
Looking closely at what they've done with Vintage Masters, I really suspect that they have an awareness that the game must inherently be
"Collectible" and are quite happy to have cards that are next to impossible to collect.
Here is a solution: Ban any card that cannot be reprinted from Legacy
Boom.
They have, it's called modern.
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And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
Nonsense. Changing/Modifying/Abolishing the Reserve List at this point would *improve* their corporate image, not hurt it. If they could change it, they would. Worrying about their image has nothing to do with it. When someone says "I can't tell you why, and I can't tell you why I can't tell you why" it is almost invariably because a lawyer told them so. The only logical explanation for why they have to tread so lightly around the Reserve List, is because WotC's lawyers honestly believe that not doing so will expose them to one or more very expensive lawsuits.
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see how this has anything to do with legal action. It's a company policy, can they be sued for changing policy?
The reason they are not talking about it, I am thinking is also company policy. It is common for companies to wish to present a single, uniform opinion. If every Wizards employee was free to discuss the reserved list and his/her thoughts/ideas about what is/isn't within the spirit of the list, this would seriously undermine the public's faith in the fact that "Wizards respect the reserved list and has no intention of modifying or removing it".
And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
Nonsense. Changing/Modifying/Abolishing the Reserve List at this point would *improve* their corporate image, not hurt it. If they could change it, they would. Worrying about their image has nothing to do with it. When someone says "I can't tell you why, and I can't tell you why I can't tell you why" it is almost invariably because a lawyer told them so. The only logical explanation for why they have to tread so lightly around the Reserve List, is because WotC's lawyers honestly believe that not doing so will expose them to one or more very expensive lawsuits.
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see how this has anything to do with legal action. It's a company policy, can they be sued for changing policy?
It's not just a company policy though. It was announced to the outside world that they would not reprint certain cards, which has helped to make those cards more collectible (ie more expensive). I'm not a lawyer either, but it's not difficult to imagine how abolishing the Reserve List could be seen as the company breaking a promise and cause certain stores or collectors to seek legal action over damages whether they're justified or not.
Something "old" is coming back...could it be as simple as....Artifacts? Artifacts by their very definition are old. From the increase in artifacts in M15, I could see KTK block having some importance to artifacts.
As for the RL, it will never be abolished simply because they publicly made a statement saying such, and they would likely get sued by almost every serious collector for damages. Imagine a company guaranteeing/promising something publicly for years, that people have thus made decisions on based on that public agreement/guarantee...only to see it re-negged. Obviously if Maro or Aaron Forscythe state that they actually cannot talk about it, there is either a legal reason they don't, or there is an enforced company policy by Hasbro (the parent company) telling them not to discuss the issue. In either situation, it could lead to their termination of employment...and I doubt either of them want to lose their job just so they can talk about the RL to magic players.
As for making cards "different" enough to cards on the RL....I think they only way they would do that would be by making the card Legendary. Adding "snow" or some such other "difference" I don't think would make it functionally different in a way that matters. I never played when "snow" permanents mattered, but that would only come up in cards from the Ice Age block (plus coldsnap?) right? The chances of a "snow dual" becoming relevant for the "snow" permanent type is almost non-existent. However having a "Legendary Land - Mountain Forest" is quite relevant, because you may only have one copy on the battlefield. They could even make it akin to Murmuring Bosk in that it would have 1 basic land type, but produce a 2nd type of mana. Having a "Land - Mountain" that tapped for red and could tap for green also as long as you control a forest or something like that. You could then have a "Land - Forest" that does the same as long as you control a mountain.
Something "old" is coming back...could it be as simple as....Artifacts? Artifacts by their very definition are old. From the increase in artifacts in M15, I could see KTK block having some importance to artifacts.
As for the RL, it will never be abolished simply because they publicly made a statement saying such, and they would likely get sued by almost every serious collector for damages. Imagine a company guaranteeing/promising something publicly for years, that people have thus made decisions on based on that public agreement/guarantee...only to see it re-negged. Obviously if Maro or Aaron Forscythe state that they actually cannot talk about it, there is either a legal reason they don't, or there is an enforced company policy by Hasbro (the parent company) telling them not to discuss the issue. In either situation, it could lead to their termination of employment...and I doubt either of them want to lose their job just so they can talk about the RL to magic players.
As for making cards "different" enough to cards on the RL....I think they only way they would do that would be by making the card Legendary. Adding "snow" or some such other "difference" I don't think would make it functionally different in a way that matters. I never played when "snow" permanents mattered, but that would only come up in cards from the Ice Age block (plus coldsnap?) right? The chances of a "snow dual" becoming relevant for the "snow" permanent type is almost non-existent. However having a "Legendary Land - Mountain Forest" is quite relevant, because you may only have one copy on the battlefield. They could even make it akin to Murmuring Bosk in that it would have 1 basic land type, but produce a 2nd type of mana. Having a "Land - Mountain" that tapped for red and could tap for green also as long as you control a forest or something like that. You could then have a "Land - Forest" that does the same as long as you control a mountain.
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Here is a solution: Ban any card that cannot be reprinted from Legacy
Boom.
I have always loved this idea. If you want to pay vintage prices for a deck, why not just play vintage? It might hurt dual prices a bit, but with them legal in commander-- and there is no reason for them to not continue being so -- I doubt it would last long.
It might immediately bump shock/fetch/filter prices, but atleast those are technically reprintable.
Here is a solution: Ban any card that cannot be reprinted from Legacy
Boom.
I have always loved this idea. If you want to pay vintage prices for a deck, why not just play vintage? It might hurt dual prices a bit, but with them legal in commander-- and there is no reason for them to not continue being so -- I doubt it would last long.
It might immediately bump shock/fetch/filter prices, but atleast those are technically reprintable.
If you have always loved this idea, I'm going to guess you don't play legacy. People who don't play legacy aren't the best people to manage the banned list.
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As I said earlier, suing WotC over abolishing the reserved list wouldn't actually do anything other than get thrown out by the first judge that looks at the case. Particularly if WotC has changed policy beforehand.
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As for value of old dual lands? Maybe revised ones would drop due to a reprint. And the same with unlimited. But alpha, beta, summer, or miscut ones? Not going to lose a cent, if anything they would gain tremendously. See: shivan dragon and birds of paradise. Both have been reprinted more times than I can count. Alpha and beta versions are worth an arm and a leg though. Unless WotC reprinted alpha/beta as sets with the old frame, exact same coloring and textboxes/you couldn't tell the difference between beta 1 and beta 2. But that would never happen in a million years.
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Unless they have an actual contractual agreement with someone that they aren't allowed to discuss, as seems to be the case given what MaRo has said on the topic. No, any shmuck wouldn't be able to sue them just because their Black Lotus went down a few cents, but someone they've made a binding legal agreement with could.
There is no other remotely rational reason for them to continue to uphold the reserve list otherwise. Players who want it to stick around are such a vast minority that it's almost impossible to find anyone supporting it (That one guy earlier in the thread is the only person I've seen do so in years), it's heavily detrimental to the game, both to older formats that don't get reprints and newer formats that might like to see some of those cards legal, and and no corporation likes not being able to make money off of their IP. Either there's a legal issue we aren't aware of, or Wizards is run by incompetent fools.
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And that is exactly the crux of it, they maintain it because not doing so could damage their corporate image, something WotC has been very careful to cultivate. Even though they are all well aware that its existence is detrimental to the continued health of vintage and legacy.
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That is most of it, but it's not just about corporate image. A lot of people got out after chronicles because it offset things too much and people couldn't justify putting the money into the game that they were if there was no consideration to the collectible nature of the cards and keeping those collectors in mind. WoTC was really close to going out of business shortly after that because they did exactly what the people who are so opposed to the reserve list want them to do again. WoTC learned from this mistake. It's just a lot of the players now, especially those who speak so loudly against the reserve list weren't there to see the impact the first time and really see how bad it was for the game. I've been playing since 93 or 94 (somewhere in there). I played before the DCI existed and a lot of things were different then. Although I got out of the game for a number of years and then came back, and partly because of this, I find that I can fully appreciate what WoTC is doing in respect to the reserve list and their reprint policies.
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Also, if it were just "We don't want to because we don't want to upset people", then MaRo could just say that.
Most of the people who complained where collectors, the vast majority of which didn't actually play the game, some of them never had.
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But if they do that it would create the fear that they would remove other cards that shouldn't be removed. While I don't think Tracker belongs on the list and would have been really cool now that his ability is a keyword. The power of creatures has improved enough that it's easy enough to get around the ones that don't belong by printing something better. A lot of others have different rules that don't make sense with modern cards and are better off just being adjusted into something that works better with what's out now. This allows for what would be an almost functional reprint and none of this violates reserve.
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They can revamp / expand it more
"Cycling: Exile top 3 cards from the Library to draw a card"
"Cycling: Exile 3 cards at random from the Graveyard to draw a card"
"Cycling: Exile 3 cards from your Hand to draw a card"
"Cycling: Exile a Creature you have in Play to draw a card"
or some combination
"Cycling: Exile top 3 cards from the Library or 3 cards at random from the Graveyard to draw a card"
Technically, yes.
Realistically, probably not going to happen ever.
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Nonsense. Changing/Modifying/Abolishing the Reserve List at this point would *improve* their corporate image, not hurt it. If they could change it, they would. Worrying about their image has nothing to do with it. When someone says "I can't tell you why, and I can't tell you why I can't tell you why" it is almost invariably because a lawyer told them so. The only logical explanation for why they have to tread so lightly around the Reserve List, is because WotC's lawyers honestly believe that not doing so will expose them to one or more very expensive lawsuits.
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But I can see them printing a cycle of wedge lands that etbt, like the ones from Shards block.
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Boom.
"Collectible" and are quite happy to have cards that are next to impossible to collect.
They have, it's called modern.
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I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see how this has anything to do with legal action. It's a company policy, can they be sued for changing policy?
The reason they are not talking about it, I am thinking is also company policy. It is common for companies to wish to present a single, uniform opinion. If every Wizards employee was free to discuss the reserved list and his/her thoughts/ideas about what is/isn't within the spirit of the list, this would seriously undermine the public's faith in the fact that "Wizards respect the reserved list and has no intention of modifying or removing it".
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It's not just a company policy though. It was announced to the outside world that they would not reprint certain cards, which has helped to make those cards more collectible (ie more expensive). I'm not a lawyer either, but it's not difficult to imagine how abolishing the Reserve List could be seen as the company breaking a promise and cause certain stores or collectors to seek legal action over damages whether they're justified or not.
Something "old" is coming back...could it be as simple as....Artifacts? Artifacts by their very definition are old. From the increase in artifacts in M15, I could see KTK block having some importance to artifacts.
As for the RL, it will never be abolished simply because they publicly made a statement saying such, and they would likely get sued by almost every serious collector for damages. Imagine a company guaranteeing/promising something publicly for years, that people have thus made decisions on based on that public agreement/guarantee...only to see it re-negged. Obviously if Maro or Aaron Forscythe state that they actually cannot talk about it, there is either a legal reason they don't, or there is an enforced company policy by Hasbro (the parent company) telling them not to discuss the issue. In either situation, it could lead to their termination of employment...and I doubt either of them want to lose their job just so they can talk about the RL to magic players.
As for making cards "different" enough to cards on the RL....I think they only way they would do that would be by making the card Legendary. Adding "snow" or some such other "difference" I don't think would make it functionally different in a way that matters. I never played when "snow" permanents mattered, but that would only come up in cards from the Ice Age block (plus coldsnap?) right? The chances of a "snow dual" becoming relevant for the "snow" permanent type is almost non-existent. However having a "Legendary Land - Mountain Forest" is quite relevant, because you may only have one copy on the battlefield. They could even make it akin to Murmuring Bosk in that it would have 1 basic land type, but produce a 2nd type of mana. Having a "Land - Mountain" that tapped for red and could tap for green also as long as you control a forest or something like that. You could then have a "Land - Forest" that does the same as long as you control a mountain.
WBG Karador GBW
R Daretti R
RG Omnath GR
WRG Modern Burn GRW
WB Modern Tokens BW
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It's Orcs.
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I have always loved this idea. If you want to pay vintage prices for a deck, why not just play vintage? It might hurt dual prices a bit, but with them legal in commander-- and there is no reason for them to not continue being so -- I doubt it would last long.
It might immediately bump shock/fetch/filter prices, but atleast those are technically reprintable.