I personally hope it is not Jace. Tamiyo and other blues require a pretty specific build, and it would be nice to have multiple blue walkers out at once in other formats. this pretty much goes for all non-black colors right now
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I don't think will return, I'm not sure how much "continuity" core sets need to have but I doubt that will see at least for a year. He should be a responsible hall monitor for Ravnica at least till the multiverse falls apart when leads an army of Phyrexian Eldrazi hybrid things. Doesn't help there's a fairly large faction of magic players that don't like the poster boy of magic.
I would like to see a merfolk based planeswalker personaly, but, I think Jace Architect Of Thought will move to core because he's good without being over powering.
Considering Jace is the "face of the franchise" as it were, I would expect him to be in the core set every year as the blue walker.
1) Beleren is probably too strong to ever return to standard, considering how much they've tried to slow down the format.
2) JTMS STFU.
4) Architect of thought is strong without being dominant, but considering its being reprinted in the DD and is set to rotate next fall, I can't imagine they would push it another year in the core set.
That leaves us with Memory Adept (aka Emo Jace). I think this is the perfect Jace to print in perpetuity, as it is very 'wow' and splashy for new players ("Mill 10??!!?") while still being a solid role player for constructed (control MD or SB).
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For white, any Ajani or Gideon is probably fine, though Jura does tend to warp things around him.
For black, Lili DR is fairly weak right now (though the rest of Theros' devotion/mono colour might change that) so I could see her being swapped out. Sorin isn't bad, either Markov or some new version.
For red, they finally made a good Chandra, so I would expect her to come back again.
For green, Garruk Caller is probably a bit too strong to keep around, although i really hope we get 2 years worth of him!
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You are missing the most likely option on Jace (create a new one). Reprinting the same planeswalker forever gets boring.
Garruk Caller isn't too strong. He isn't dominating right now. I also don't recall Berelen or Jura being too strong.
They could just introduce a new Blue walker like a Merfolk, Sphinx, or Vedalken.
As cool as that would be, I have a feeling that they probably won't put any non-human PWs in core sets anymore, Due to humans being more relatable and thus, more attractive to new players. And yes, that does mean taking Ajani out too, wgich I think they could do. As far as ideal core PW characters goes, I think Elspeth is the best choice. Gideon is a good one too, but I don't think his jumping-into-battle schtick would be ideal for a core set, as it might be confusing to new players (And yea I know that's probably total bs, but I'm trying to think the same way WotC usually thinks). I think Jace is pobably gonna stick around (unfortunately).
Is there any reason to believe this? Ajani keeps getting into core sets, Bolas was in M13, and Sorin was in M12.
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Chandra Pyromaster
Nissa Revane
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I am guessing that there will be a new Liliana. LotV would be too good in Monoblack Devotion (though I would love using her with Waste Not and Thoughtseize).
With WotC pushing Modern as much as SCG pushes Legacy LotV will see re-print in a core set to make her available to newer players. Similar to how Thoughtseize and Mutavault came back to Standard (although the latter is seeing more play now than it was before M14).
Plus if we're seeing the cursed side of Garruk more it would make sense to put the PW in the same set that caused him this curse.
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With WotC pushing Modern as much as SCG pushes Legacy LotV will see re-print in a core set to make her available to newer players. Similar to how Thoughtseize and Mutavault came back to Standard (although the latter is seeing more play now than it was before M14).
Plus if we're seeing the cursed side of Garruk more it would make sense to put the PW in the same set that caused him this curse.
Wizards pushes Standard much more than it pushes Modern.
AoT will not return. Pyromaster will return. LotV will NOT be in the core set. It was JUST in standard less than a year ago and it is currently everywhere so the supply is just fine. Nissa will only return if elves are a supported theme in a core set, her ability REQUIRES Nissa's Chosen to exist, also too narrow for a core set. New Garruk will be new, NOT veil cursed. Wizards never said it was veil cursed and they would also NEVER put flip cards into a core set. So get that idea out of your heads.
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The supply on LotV is not fine as Innistrad has been out of print for over a year. AoT can return. His card name is not tied to Ravnica making him eligible for printing in a core set, and we all know this is the "fixed" 4 cmc Jace.
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The supply on LotV is not fine as Innistrad has been out of print for over a year. AoT can return. His card name is not tied to Ravnica making him eligible for printing in a core set, and we all know this is the "fixed" 4 cmc Jace.
LotV wont be reprinted in this core set or any core set. It just wont. Mono black doesn't need anything more. And its been printed recently. Its price is fine. Jace AoT wont be reprinted because they will put a new Jace into M15. 3 years of Memory Adept is enough. And AoT was actually based on RTR, Jace lives in Ravnica and he returned to help the guilds.
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While I don't think it would be balanced in Standard with Thoughtseize, I think the most likely one to see a reprint is Liliana of the Veil, due to her connections to Garruk's current storyline thingy.
What I wish were were getting (maybe for M16):
White: New Gideon
Blue: New Tamiyo
Black: New Sorin
Red: New Tibalt
Green: New Nissa
I was thinking that Wizards underpowered Pharika in JOU in preparation for some crazy-powered Garruk in M15. He does lop off a guy's head in the trailer...
Jace beleren is one of the best walkers ever printed. Doubt we ever see jace beleren reprinted again in a standard legal set. Quite an innocuous card but incredibly good. Top 5 with ease even with all the other walkers they've printed lately. The key is the cost (3). Virtually every time they make a 3 mana walker said walker has been quite good (domri, liliana, and baby jace are all excellent cards. Dack Fayden is also an excellent card.)
I'm just sick of jace. There are FOUR versions of jace. That is enough. So sick of MTG's posterboy.
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Jace beleren is one of the best walkers ever printed. Doubt we ever see jace beleren reprinted again in a standard legal set. Quite an innocuous card but incredibly good. Top 5 with ease even with all the other walkers they've printed lately. The key is the cost (3). Virtually every time they make a 3 mana walker said walker has been quite good (domri, liliana, and baby jace are all excellent cards. Dack Fayden is also an excellent card.)
I'm just sick of jace. There are FOUR versions of jace. That is enough. So sick of MTG's posterboy.
This. The face of the game needs to change occasionally. I think that if we're still going to focus on a blue 'walker (and we're not, the main story is Garruk this time), it should be Tamiyo or someone new. Jace is getting stale.
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While I don't think it would be balanced in Standard with Thoughtseize, I think the most likely one to see a reprint is Liliana of the Veil, due to her connections to Garruk's current storyline thingy.
What I wish were were getting (maybe for M16):
White: New Gideon
Blue: New Tamiyo
Black: New Sorin
Red: New Tibalt
Green: New Nissa
WUBRG: New Karn
Karn is not 5 colored, he is colorless. It doesn't make sense for him to be all colors.
I know he's colorless in previous cards, but I think he is supposed to have the skills to be theoretically WUBRG with all his magical knowledge. Or at least, he's probably the most likely of the planeswalkers to qualify for WUBRG status.
Right. The Legacy Weapon pieces (of which Karn was one, if I'm not mistaken) were assembled using the 5 colors of mana (again, if I'm not mistaken) and Phyrexia is also now 5 colors where it wouldn't make sense under the previous artifact paradigm. Wizards has had colored artifacts as a part of every block for a while now - the most recent being Godsend. I fully support Karn Wuberg, Attorney at Retribution.
Right. The Legacy Weapon pieces (of which Karn was one, if I'm not mistaken) were assembled using the 5 colors of mana (again, if I'm not mistaken) and Phyrexia is also now 5 colors where it wouldn't make sense under the previous artifact paradigm. Wizards has had colored artifacts as a part of every block for a while now - the most recent being Godsend. I fully support Karn Wuberg, Attorney at Retribution.
There is of course the problem that making him WUBRG would make him unplayable in anything besides casual kitchen table magic/Commander.
See Chromanticore
I would find it sad to see a good planeswalker like him being sacrificed like that.
And yes, yes I know there is more to magic that tournament-level cards but still
- The M15 zombie spoiler showed new jace art on the bottom. Probably new Jace then. Sorry, but Jace is the mascot of Magic.
- Garruk is definitely new, face of the set. Probably not pure G anymore.
- Nissa action figure. Probably new since her 1.0 is so niche.
- Ajani action figure. Probably the M14 one since he just got a new card. Yes, there's precedent, but that isn't a pattern. Prefer Gideon 1.0...
- Chandra, Pyromaster why not.
- Liliana: probably the M14 one if Jace is new (3 new walkers). 4 new walkers is probably too much. Sad because LotDR is kinda meh. LotV would be unexpected, but might help sell the new-frame set and ties to Garruk story-wise.
I have to agree with this. M15 will be a Architect or Memory Adpet, and M16 will be a new Jace.
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You are missing the most likely option on Jace (create a new one). Reprinting the same planeswalker forever gets boring.
Garruk Caller isn't too strong. He isn't dominating right now. I also don't recall Berelen or Jura being too strong.
Is there any reason to believe this? Ajani keeps getting into core sets, Bolas was in M13, and Sorin was in M12.
Nope. She is fundamentally green.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
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I am guessing that there will be a new Liliana. LotV would be too good in Monoblack Devotion (though I would love using her with Waste Not and Thoughtseize).
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Plus if we're seeing the cursed side of Garruk more it would make sense to put the PW in the same set that caused him this curse.
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Wizards pushes Standard much more than it pushes Modern.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
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LotV wont be reprinted in this core set or any core set. It just wont. Mono black doesn't need anything more. And its been printed recently. Its price is fine. Jace AoT wont be reprinted because they will put a new Jace into M15. 3 years of Memory Adept is enough. And AoT was actually based on RTR, Jace lives in Ravnica and he returned to help the guilds.
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While I don't think it would be balanced in Standard with Thoughtseize, I think the most likely one to see a reprint is Liliana of the Veil, due to her connections to Garruk's current storyline thingy.
What I wish were were getting (maybe for M16):
White: New Gideon
Blue: New Tamiyo
Black: New Sorin
Red: New Tibalt
Green: New Nissa
WUBRG: New Karn
I'm just sick of jace. There are FOUR versions of jace. That is enough. So sick of MTG's posterboy.
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This. The face of the game needs to change occasionally. I think that if we're still going to focus on a blue 'walker (and we're not, the main story is Garruk this time), it should be Tamiyo or someone new. Jace is getting stale.
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Karn is not 5 colored, he is colorless. It doesn't make sense for him to be all colors.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
There is of course the problem that making him WUBRG would make him unplayable in anything besides casual kitchen table magic/Commander.
See Chromanticore
I would find it sad to see a good planeswalker like him being sacrificed like that.
And yes, yes I know there is more to magic that tournament-level cards but still
- The M15 zombie spoiler showed new jace art on the bottom. Probably new Jace then. Sorry, but Jace is the mascot of Magic.
- Garruk is definitely new, face of the set. Probably not pure G anymore.
- Nissa action figure. Probably new since her 1.0 is so niche.
- Ajani action figure. Probably the M14 one since he just got a new card. Yes, there's precedent, but that isn't a pattern. Prefer Gideon 1.0...
- Chandra, Pyromaster why not.
- Liliana: probably the M14 one if Jace is new (3 new walkers). 4 new walkers is probably too much. Sad because LotDR is kinda meh. LotV would be unexpected, but might help sell the new-frame set and ties to Garruk story-wise.