Counterspell Reprint

  • #26
    Quote from krishnath
    Considering that Maro thinks it is too good as well. Not bloody likely.


    Marks also says he is not a good judge of power. So how can he be certain that its too good.

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  • #27
    Things have changed so much since the last time we saw counterspell printed. I bet it would only see fringe play in standard. Straight UW control might want it, but no one else will. Mana leak would be much more powerful in standard.
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  • #28
    i think if they would reprint counterspell, its not goona be intended for standard but for modern play i guess.
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  • #29
    when mana leak is too strong for standard, counterspell is by miles... sorry this wont be reprinted, even if it wouldnt be too strong for modern. but wizards think its too strong for standard..

    so this will not happen in the next few years.
  • #30
    Counterspell will be reprinted someday.

    I don't think that day will come for a very long time.

    As much as green and blue have really switched top and bottom places on the Magic "totem pole of power" over the last 15 years, green's ascendancy is not yet complete. (Blue's nerfing might be, but I'm not counting on it.)

    Once we get to a place where uncounterability (or more likely, something that's not quite the same as uncounterability but works on a similar principle) becomes evergreen, and commonly accepted as part of the game, then Counterspell can re-enter the discussion.

    Basically, when a hard counter is no longer a hard counter (which I expect to someday be the case) then Counterspell can return. And not before then.
  • #31
    Quote from Wrathberry
    when mana leak is too strong for standard, counterspell is by miles...


    I disagree -- the UU cost on counterspell makes it a difficult turn 2 play. You can play mana leak in all kinds of decks, but counterspell requires a very heavy blue commitment. CS is much better late game, but the way magic is now if you've gotten to the late game and you're playing counterspell, you probably don't need it to win.
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  • #32
    Quote from benbuzz790
    I disagree -- the UU cost on counterspell makes it a difficult turn 2 play. You can play mana leak in all kinds of decks, but counterspell requires a very heavy blue commitment. CS is much better late game, but the way magic is now if you've gotten to the late game and you're playing counterspell, you probably don't need it to win.


    We're talkin about t3 Blightning, t4 cryptic, t5 bituminous, t6 titan, and t7 cruel ultimatum-type of manabases than when counterspell was still legal in standard. If you realy want to play Counterspell, UU is not restrictive all.
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  • #33
    Anyone who thinks the UU casting cost is a draw back has not played Standard lately. The mana bases of Standard make it very easy to cast counterspell on turn 2 and not be blue based. Counterspell has zero drawbacks and is a catch all counter, something Wotc has been going away from. I wouldnt expect counterspell to be reprinted in a long while.
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  • #34
    Quote from Gulnar
    Especially with all this NWO thing going?


    You do realise that NWO only affects what can be printed at common, right?

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  • #35
    Mana leak was 'too good' in standard because of snapcaster mage and delver of secrets being in the picture. That was the only reason and even then leak wasn't the problem, delver and snapcaster were. I think people would be VERY surprised at how powerful counterspell would be in todays world, just like lightning bolt. It wouldn't break standard at all to reprint counterspell.
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  • #36
    I just would like them to reprint this class card I may say again. Even memory lapse would be nice.

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