EDIT: On second thought, Tarmogoyf is probably more likely Counterspell given the former's deckbuilding aspect and the latter's promotion of permission control gameplay.
i don't think goyf would be as good in standard as it is in modern(even with all the superfriends decks now). One thing to note tho is that this coreset and core 19 have alread some reprints of modern staples and cards that had huge price tags. I can't say if it is real or fake but would not be shocked if real, wizards is trying to push modern and reprinting expensive cards from it in sets that historically don't sell well is a good move (and considering no more master sets for a while...).
Lets wait to see, tomorow if true we will have confirmation probably.
i don't think goyf would be as good in standard as it is in modern(even with all the superfriends decks now).
But then, that's true for a lot of cards.
Goyf just has a very strong rate. And it's also kind of iconic for modern, so WotC might not want to upset collectors and certain die-hard modern fans by putting it in standard.
Why would WotC care about "upsetting" certain die-hard modern fans?, they can still play modern with Goyf all the want. Collectors no longer care if it is printed in yet another set (I know I don't). If anything, this will make some printings more valuable as people will want to play their favorite version in standard. Remember, Goyf was once a standard legal card before and it wasn't the end all be all.
Serious doubts. If you have access to a higher resolution image, we might be able to tell more.
EDIT: While technically not Crunched out, there is only one spot it can be in. That said, given the image quality it is hard to determine whether it is fake or not. There are several ways to get rid of graveyards in Standard, mitigating it, and making it mythic means it's less likely to be an issue in limit. Still doubt, but there is some hope of it being real
i doubt it, but i don't see how it would be an issue in standard? Leyline of the Void also got reprinted and standard doesn't have fetch lands and cards like Faithless Looting to abuse Tarmogoyf.
i doubt it, but i don't see how it would be an issue in standard? Leyline of the Void also got reprinted and standard doesn't have fetch lands and cards like Faithless Looting to abuse Tarmogoyf.
It could be balanced, but it's a risk given the known high power ceiling, and it's not exactly the hardest card to enable.
It's definitely possible though, it's no Ancestral Recall.
I also doubt, but I'd love if it were true. Goyf would almost certainly be an ok card at best in Standard, and such a wide printing would hopefully bring prices down even further.
It wouldn't surprise me all that much. The background of the picture is the same as Demolishing Digger, so maybe?
it is pretty easy to manufacture that kind of image then take a shaky, blurred picture to hide the sloppy editing work.
I would disregard anything like that as fake until it is confirmed real.
Doubt it. But the number in the image seems corret (196/280). Not hard to fake that, but if forged, at least they put some thought to make it more believable.
We have a format with a ton of Planeswalkers. And if the return to Theros is true, then we’ll have a ton of enchantments. Creatures, Instants, Sorceries, Planeswalkers, and Enchantments. Sure, we don’t have fetchlands and Field of Ruin rotates out soon and artifacts haven’t really been a thing and obviously there’s no more tribal. However, that’s still a 5/6 for 2. I don’t see it.
And as others have said, the pic isn’t exactly convincing, however it does kinda look like 196 there with regards to the collector number. I dunno. It would be great for the game and show they’re serious about reprints and pushing the power level, but it is Tarmogoyf and this is a Standard set.
Goyf barely sees any play (if at all) in eternal formats these days. It's been eclipsed by bigger and better things.
Even in standard it would just be ok. It's a vanilla creature that gets stone walled by a 1/1.
Getting lands in the grave is pretty hard in standard.
Most card types we see are:
1- Creature
2- Instant
3- Sorcery
4- Planeswalker
That makes it on average a 2 mana 4/5 with no other abilities. Personally, I think it would be just fine. People might think "wow goyf in standard" and then never actually end up laying it cuz green has better things to do than cast a french vanilla cookie monster. I can buy into this.
I think Maro has said on his blog that the fall set is on a new plane?
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Anyways, looking at these old standard decks, Goyf was played in a ton of different decks without too much in terms of support. Yes, he is better with fetchlands, but he would still be good in Standard.
On the other hand, threats are quite a bit better nowadays. I think Watchwolf saw real play around the same time as goyf, and it is already 6 years since we got Fleecemane Lion.
I wonder how much better goyf would be than something like Sylvan Advocate? I think most likely it would be a bit better, but maybe not broken-levels better?
All of this notwithstanding, I seriously doubt this.
All this talk is making me want to see Goyf in standard, regardless of whether this is fake. They reprinted Scapeshift (and are now printing Field of the Dead alongside it) and Crucible of Worlds in the last core set, maybe it's not as crazy as it sounds after all?
the main issue I see about being a fake is tied to what Maro said in his preview article: Cavalier of Flame being part of a Mythic cycle; add 5 wedge legend and 5 monocolor PW and the 15 mythic slot are completed. I don't see how Tarmo can be associated in a cycle to the Cavalier
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Goyf barely sees any play (if at all) in eternal formats these days. It's been eclipsed by bigger and better things.
Even in standard it would just be ok. It's a vanilla creature that gets stone walled by a 1/1.
Getting lands in the grave is pretty hard in standard.
Most card types we see are:
1- Creature
2- Instant
3- Sorcery
4- Planeswalker
That makes it on average a 2 mana 4/5 with no other abilities. Personally, I think it would be just fine. People might think "wow goyf in standard" and then never actually end up laying it cuz green has better things to do than cast a french vanilla cookie monster. I can buy into this.
I have to agree, whether fake or not, once you get past the "OMG Goyf in Standard!!" hype you realize it's been outclassed by now, a 3/2 Merfolk Branchwalker would be a better T2 play than Goyf in the current format.
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Hard to imagine WotC ever taking the risk of putting Goyf in standard.
But hey, maybe just maybe the stars alligned?
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I could see Lightning Bolt and maybe even Counterspell before Tarmogoyf.
EDIT: On second thought, Tarmogoyf is probably more likely Counterspell given the former's deckbuilding aspect and the latter's promotion of permission control gameplay.
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Lets wait to see, tomorow if true we will have confirmation probably.
But then, that's true for a lot of cards.
Goyf just has a very strong rate. And it's also kind of iconic for modern, so WotC might not want to upset collectors and certain die-hard modern fans by putting it in standard.
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EDIT: While technically not Crunched out, there is only one spot it can be in. That said, given the image quality it is hard to determine whether it is fake or not. There are several ways to get rid of graveyards in Standard, mitigating it, and making it mythic means it's less likely to be an issue in limit. Still doubt, but there is some hope of it being real
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
It could be balanced, but it's a risk given the known high power ceiling, and it's not exactly the hardest card to enable.
It's definitely possible though, it's no Ancestral Recall.
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I would disregard anything like that as fake until it is confirmed real.
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And as others have said, the pic isn’t exactly convincing, however it does kinda look like 196 there with regards to the collector number. I dunno. It would be great for the game and show they’re serious about reprints and pushing the power level, but it is Tarmogoyf and this is a Standard set.
Even in standard it would just be ok. It's a vanilla creature that gets stone walled by a 1/1.
Getting lands in the grave is pretty hard in standard.
Most card types we see are:
1- Creature
2- Instant
3- Sorcery
4- Planeswalker
That makes it on average a 2 mana 4/5 with no other abilities. Personally, I think it would be just fine. People might think "wow goyf in standard" and then never actually end up laying it cuz green has better things to do than cast a french vanilla cookie monster. I can buy into this.
I think Maro has said on his blog that the fall set is on a new plane?
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Anyways, looking at these old standard decks, Goyf was played in a ton of different decks without too much in terms of support. Yes, he is better with fetchlands, but he would still be good in Standard.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/event-coverage/top-standard-decks-2007-07-28
On the other hand, threats are quite a bit better nowadays. I think Watchwolf saw real play around the same time as goyf, and it is already 6 years since we got Fleecemane Lion.
I wonder how much better goyf would be than something like Sylvan Advocate? I think most likely it would be a bit better, but maybe not broken-levels better?
All of this notwithstanding, I seriously doubt this.
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I have to agree, whether fake or not, once you get past the "OMG Goyf in Standard!!" hype you realize it's been outclassed by now, a 3/2 Merfolk Branchwalker would be a better T2 play than Goyf in the current format.