Just a Brief thread to discuss the candidates for Amonkhet.
From the latest Magic Story, ive read that the Gatewatch wants to go to Amonkhet next, but Ajani warns them, that they are inferior yet to challenge Bolas. He recommends them to seek allies first.
i dont remember much more from the Story. But according to that, it seems we can expect founders of the Gatewatch back in Amonkhet ? At least partially.
i would guess that Gideon is a sure canditate from among those. Just because he leaves Standard, i believe so.
There will & Need to be new Planeswalkers too. Mark Rosewater said somewhere sometime that a Sphinx Planeswalker would be eventual. i guess & hope he/she is among the new ones. i also really really do hope we FINALLY see Garruks Comeback. Because wasnt Egypt known for ist curses too ? Maybe thats the best place for him to seek someone to liberate him. Bolas the most obvious candidate. i guess he costs 6 Mana this time.
my last Point is about Egypts weird theme of hybrids or more acurate: Those human bodies with an animals head. Representative for their gods i guess.
i would love to get a GW Loxodon Planeswalker, since they are such creatures from the look at least d:)
i cant resist ^^
Loxodon Planeswalker 2GW [4]
[+1] Create a 1/1 White Bird Creature Token with Flying
[-X] Put X +1/+1 Counters on X Creatures you Control. They gain Vigilance & Reach.
[-3] Tap 3 creatures; Exile target Creature or Planeswalker.
[+1] Draw 2 Cards.
[-5] Destroy all Creatures.
[-X] Bolas deals X damage, divided as you choose among X target Planeswalkers.
[-10] You Control target Players next 3 turns.
[+1] Untap target land. It becomes a 2/2 Creature with Indestructible
[-3] Target creature you Control gains +3/+3 & Trample until end of turn. You may have it fight another target creature you dont Control.
[-6] You get an Emblem with: At the beginning of each opponents upkeep, untap all creatures & lands you Control. Creatures spells you Control have Flash &
whenever you cast a Creature spell, draw a Card.
[+1] Choose up to 1 target creature you Control. Until end of turn it gains +1/+1, indestructible &: When this creature attacks, create a 1/1 White Soldier Creature Token tapped & attacking.
[0] Until your next turn, Gideon becomes a 4/4 White Soldier Creature with Indestructible.
[-2] Choose up to 2 target creatures. During your next combat Phase, you choose which of These creatures block & how they block. (mini master warcraft) exactly Gideons Thing
Liliana will most probably show up too, she has one of her demons on Amonkhet.
Another candidate is Sarkhan, Ajani konws him and therefore can bring him along in Hour of Devastation. He also has some experience with Bolas.
That would leave us with:
Bolas - UBR
Gids - W
Lili - B
Sarkhan - URG or RG
Lilly, Gideon and maybe Jace
I believe Bolas will be on Hour of Devastation
We might get one or two local Planeswalkers
Vraska could show up there, maybe Ashiok
This. This. All day this. Crucius v. Tezz. Etherium fight!
Probably no Ugin. Dude is salty.
Very. He is also preoccupied with his new science project, dissecting eldrazi titan corpses on Zendikar.
"Amonkhet has Nicol Bolas? So? I'm busy understanding the ramification of your actions for killing two titans. You want to go after him? Alright, have fun storming the cas-WAIT WHAT!!?"
On the side of Bolas I'm interested in seeing a new planeswalker who doesn't simply work for him like Tezzeret or Sarkhan, but who is a native of Amonkhet and has been absolutely loyal to Bolas for their whole life.
That would mean no native planeswalker, which is unlikely. Also, we just got a new Ajani and Jace had a card relatively recently. Lili did too, but she has strong storytelling reason to appear.
With dark intimation printed already, it would be a shame if Bolas wasn't in the first set.
Please no Jace. Crucius having blue in it and Bolas should knock Jace out for color balance reasons. We can only hope.
I'm getting a feeling of White getting an uptick and Black. Gideon should be there, I believe they've stated they want all the Core Gatewatch in standard at any given moment. We could see Liliana. With an average of five Planeswalkers, and Bolas/Gideon eating up one of the spots, that gives us three spaces to fit in the remaining four colors (Bolas, again, not counting for color balance). Decently likely we will see Liliana (a demon there), but I don't see us getting Jace, so we have two spots that will have to cover Blue, Red, and Green. I'm guessing... Blue Green and Red Green Planeswalkers possibly? We could also have a pure Red, or Red/Black or White, but I'm doubting Red/White with Nahiri.
Roughly summing things up...
1. Bolas (zero color balance impact)
2. Gideon (White 1)
3. Liliana (Black 1)
4. Blue/Green (Maybe a Sphinx? .5 to each)
5. Red/Green, or possibly some other combination (.5 to each)
Which would roughly balance things out to an even 1 between the three blocks. Not an exact science by any stretch, but I'm guessing something like this at least. Blue/Red aren't going to be represented very strongly, they're both due to take the backseat. We could also see something like... Red/White or Red/Black, but Red/White seems unlikely at least.
I'm just imagining each "god" on Amonkhet is in actuality a planeswalker under Bolas control.
God (male)
God (male)
God (male)
God (female)
God (female)
I personally doubt Nicol Bolas has his own actual gods that are enchantment creatures. The most I could expect, if its not planeswalkers, something akin to Avacyn. A being created by a pre-mending planeswalker and at a time that this was before the mending.
I'm just imagining each "god" on Amonkhet is in actuality a planeswalker under Bolas control.
I've mentioned a similar idea before,
though mine involved shard-colored Planeswalkers,
as Nicol Bolas very much seems to be one of the "gods" of the plane himself.
They could theoretically print a cycle of very expensive, tricolor planeswalkers
without affecting Planeswalker balance in Standard too much.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
It certainly would be odd if 4 dead dragons came back as planeswalkers. Some people complain about how superhero-like the Gatewatch is, but Magic doesn't bring characters back from the dead too often outside of supplementary products. When they do they usually come back different in some way.
Yeah, no need to bring back dead dragons. I also don't see us getting multiple tricolor Planeswalkers, it would basically be a huge hit to the color balance. One, and that's all I see happening, which is Bolas. We may see tricolor Gods, maybe, but that's an entirely different thing and harder to predict.
I think we might see a 4 ability Walker, maybe Ajani. I think Chandra may have set a trend.
Ajani, King of Cats 2WG
+1 Put a 1/1 cat creature enchantment onto the battlefield.
+1 Put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature. You gain 2 life.
-1 Up to 2 target creatures do not untap during their untap step.
-8 Exile up to 6 target permanents until Ajani, King of Cats leaves the battlefield.
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Ajani's Battlecry XWW
Sorcery
Put X 1/1 white cat creature tokens onto the battlefield.
If G was spent on X, then you may also put X 1/1 green elf tokens onto the battlefield.
If R was spent on X, then you may also put X 1/1 red human tokens onto the battlefield.
He'll show up sometime, but I don't see us getting a tricolor and colorless Planeswalker in the same block that often. We had it with Tarkir, but those were really special circumstances, and Karn really doesn't seem like a good fit for Amonkhet anyways.
Discard and draw cycle effect. Chaos Warp
Makes target player's creatures deals damage equal to their power to a target player (which can be their controller or another player).
[+]: Discard a card, then draw a card.
[-]: Target creature gets wither and lifelink until end of turn. Then it deals damage to itself equal to its power.
[-]: Target opponent gets an emblem with "If a source would cause you to gain life, you lose that much life instead."
I hope we get to see more of the native planeswalkers there than the Gatewatch, we've had plenty of Jace and Gideon cards, but none for these brand new characters! I'd be totally fine without any of the Gatewatch. We know for sure Nicol Bolas will be there, I'm hoping to see Ashiok as well. Vraska could be possible in Hour of Devastation if that Atlazan leak turns out to be real.
I could see us getting a B/W planeswalker, dunno why, baseless spec of my own is telling me
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Just a Brief thread to discuss the candidates for Amonkhet.
From the latest Magic Story, ive read that the Gatewatch wants to go to Amonkhet next, but Ajani warns them, that they are inferior yet to challenge Bolas. He recommends them to seek allies first.
i dont remember much more from the Story. But according to that, it seems we can expect founders of the Gatewatch back in Amonkhet ? At least partially.
i would guess that Gideon is a sure canditate from among those. Just because he leaves Standard, i believe so.
There will & Need to be new Planeswalkers too. Mark Rosewater said somewhere sometime that a Sphinx Planeswalker would be eventual. i guess & hope he/she is among the new ones. i also really really do hope we FINALLY see Garruks Comeback. Because wasnt Egypt known for ist curses too ? Maybe thats the best place for him to seek someone to liberate him. Bolas the most obvious candidate. i guess he costs 6 Mana this time.
my last Point is about Egypts weird theme of hybrids or more acurate: Those human bodies with an animals head. Representative for their gods i guess.
i would love to get a GW Loxodon Planeswalker, since they are such creatures from the look at least d:)
i cant resist ^^
Loxodon Planeswalker 2GW [4]
[+1] Create a 1/1 White Bird Creature Token with Flying
[-X] Put X +1/+1 Counters on X Creatures you Control. They gain Vigilance & Reach.
[-3] Tap 3 creatures; Exile target Creature or Planeswalker.
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Bolas, Ruler of Amonkhet 3UBR [6]
[+1] Draw 2 Cards.
[-5] Destroy all Creatures.
[-X] Bolas deals X damage, divided as you choose among X target Planeswalkers.
[-10] You Control target Players next 3 turns.
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Garruk Restored 2GG[4]
[+1] Untap target land. It becomes a 2/2 Creature with Indestructible
[-3] Target creature you Control gains +3/+3 & Trample until end of turn. You may have it fight another target creature you dont Control.
[-6] You get an Emblem with: At the beginning of each opponents upkeep, untap all creatures & lands you Control. Creatures spells you Control have Flash &
whenever you cast a Creature spell, draw a Card.
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Gideon, Born to fight 1WW [3]
[+1] Choose up to 1 target creature you Control. Until end of turn it gains +1/+1, indestructible &: When this creature attacks, create a 1/1 White Soldier Creature Token tapped & attacking.
[0] Until your next turn, Gideon becomes a 4/4 White Soldier Creature with Indestructible.
[-2] Choose up to 2 target creatures. During your next combat Phase, you choose which of These creatures block & how they block. (mini master warcraft) exactly Gideons Thing
Another candidate is Sarkhan, Ajani konws him and therefore can bring him along in Hour of Devastation. He also has some experience with Bolas.
That would leave us with:
Bolas - UBR
Gids - W
Lili - B
Sarkhan - URG or RG
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I believe Bolas will be on Hour of Devastation
We might get one or two local Planeswalkers
Vraska could show up there, maybe Ashiok
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That would mean no native planeswalker, which is unlikely. Also, we just got a new Ajani and Jace had a card relatively recently. Lili did too, but she has strong storytelling reason to appear.
Please no Jace. Crucius having blue in it and Bolas should knock Jace out for color balance reasons. We can only hope.
Let's see... looking at the last two blocks (I don't think Zendikar will impact their decisions any)
SOI Block
White: 1
Blue: 1
Black: 1.5
Red: 1
Green: .5
Kaladesh
White: 1
Blue: 1.5
Black: .5
Red: 1.5
Green: 1.5
I'm getting a feeling of White getting an uptick and Black. Gideon should be there, I believe they've stated they want all the Core Gatewatch in standard at any given moment. We could see Liliana. With an average of five Planeswalkers, and Bolas/Gideon eating up one of the spots, that gives us three spaces to fit in the remaining four colors (Bolas, again, not counting for color balance). Decently likely we will see Liliana (a demon there), but I don't see us getting Jace, so we have two spots that will have to cover Blue, Red, and Green. I'm guessing... Blue Green and Red Green Planeswalkers possibly? We could also have a pure Red, or Red/Black or White, but I'm doubting Red/White with Nahiri.
Roughly summing things up...
1. Bolas (zero color balance impact)
2. Gideon (White 1)
3. Liliana (Black 1)
4. Blue/Green (Maybe a Sphinx? .5 to each)
5. Red/Green, or possibly some other combination (.5 to each)
Which would roughly balance things out to an even 1 between the three blocks. Not an exact science by any stretch, but I'm guessing something like this at least. Blue/Red aren't going to be represented very strongly, they're both due to take the backseat. We could also see something like... Red/White or Red/Black, but Red/White seems unlikely at least.
God (male)
God (male)
God (female)
God (female)
I personally doubt Nicol Bolas has his own actual gods that are enchantment creatures. The most I could expect, if its not planeswalkers, something akin to Avacyn. A being created by a pre-mending planeswalker and at a time that this was before the mending.
I've mentioned a similar idea before,
though mine involved shard-colored Planeswalkers,
as Nicol Bolas very much seems to be one of the "gods" of the plane himself.
They could theoretically print a cycle of very expensive, tricolor planeswalkers
without affecting Planeswalker balance in Standard too much.
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EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
UBRNicol Bolas
GWUArcades Sabboth
RGWPalladia-Mors
WUBChromium
BRGVaevictis Asmadi
It certainly would be odd if 4 dead dragons came back as planeswalkers. Some people complain about how superhero-like the Gatewatch is, but Magic doesn't bring characters back from the dead too often outside of supplementary products. When they do they usually come back different in some way.
I think we might see a 4 ability Walker, maybe Ajani. I think Chandra may have set a trend.
Ajani, King of Cats 2WG
+1 Put a 1/1 cat creature enchantment onto the battlefield.
+1 Put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature. You gain 2 life.
-1 Up to 2 target creatures do not untap during their untap step.
-8 Exile up to 6 target permanents until Ajani, King of Cats leaves the battlefield.
4
Ajani's Battlecry XWW
Sorcery
Put X 1/1 white cat creature tokens onto the battlefield.
If G was spent on X, then you may also put X 1/1 green elf tokens onto the battlefield.
If R was spent on X, then you may also put X 1/1 red human tokens onto the battlefield.
First Set
Crucius- Ux or Lillianna- B
Gideon W
New native Walker- GX
Second Set
Ashiok- UB
Bolas- UBR
The other Gatewatch Members (minus Kitty) will also be present in the story but will be depicted instead through other cardart.
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I'm thinking he'll be in Amonkhet
Discard and draw cycle effect.
Chaos Warp
Makes target player's creatures deals damage equal to their power to a target player (which can be their controller or another player).
[+]: Discard a card, then draw a card.
[-]: Target creature gets wither and lifelink until end of turn. Then it deals damage to itself equal to its power.
[-]: Target opponent gets an emblem with "If a source would cause you to gain life, you lose that much life instead."
I could see us getting a B/W planeswalker, dunno why, baseless spec of my own is telling me
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