So if you watch the opening program of Kaladesh at Pax (https://youtu.be/_fuiiv0hhT0?t=21m30s) you will hear about Chandra wanting revenge for those who have wronged her and see a picture of what I attached below
To me, this seems like Liliana is on to something and Chandra looks like she´s enjoying or being manipulated by what Liliana is saying.
Do you think Liliana could push Chandra in a direction of becoming a Black and Red Planeswalker for Kaladesh?
She might do something stupid due to poor impulse control (and subtle manipulation by Lily), but she'd feel really, really bad about it afterwards. If anything she may shift slightly towards green due to Nissa's influence.
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I don't imagine our Oath Walkers leaving their colors. I could see Chandra doing something considered villainous, but I don't think she will gain black magic because of it.
So if you watch the opening program of Kaladesh at Pax (https://youtu.be/_fuiiv0hhT0?t=21m30s) you will hear about Chandra wanting revenge for those who have wronged her and see a picture of what I attached below
To me, this seems like Liliana is on to something and Chandra looks like she´s enjoying or being manipulated by what Liliana is saying.
Do you think Liliana could push Chandra in a direction of becoming a Black and Red Planeswalker for Kaladesh?
Chandra wont ever be evil. She will, however, be very angry, and Liliana LOVES to toy with people. To become black requires corruption, such as what happened to Tezzeret the Seeker going to Tezzeret, agent of bolas.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I certainly hope so. The past few blocks' lore has been painfully bland and cliche, I'm itching for a world to get irreparably rekt and a hero to either bite the dust or become a villain. Maybe her and Garruk could could go on a rampage together.
I certainly hope so. The past few blocks' lore has been painfully bland and cliche, I'm itching for a world to get irreparably rekt and a hero to either bite the dust or become a villain. Maybe her and Garruk could could go on a rampage together.
So if you watch the opening program of Kaladesh at Pax (https://youtu.be/_fuiiv0hhT0?t=21m30s) you will hear about Chandra wanting revenge for those who have wronged her and see a picture of what I attached below
To me, this seems like Liliana is on to something and Chandra looks like she´s enjoying or being manipulated by what Liliana is saying.
Do you think Liliana could push Chandra in a direction of becoming a Black and Red Planeswalker for Kaladesh?
Chandra wont ever be evil. She will, however, be very angry, and Liliana LOVES to toy with people. To become black requires corruption, such as what happened to Tezzeret the Seeker going to Tezzeret, agent of bolas.
Or it requires a large amount of egoism, greed, and/or lack of morals to become black aligned. Chandra is impulsive and reckless with a strong dislike of law, but ultimately she wants what is best for everyone, not just herself.
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I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
It seems to me just like Liliana being a terrible influence on her and a reprint of Diabolic Tutor.
Indeed, it also seems that Chandra is resisting Lily's temptating to join the Dark Side™. In today's story, both times Lily encouraged Chandra to give in and kill (first the guy in the club, then later a couple of soldiers), Chandra outright refused.
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Guys, Liliana and Chandra will stay ”good”. The evil in this plane was found: Tezzeret and probably Bolas using him. The next plane will also have Nicol Bolas so I expect him coming to the center of the attention as main villain.
Lily was never good to begin with, she revels in her evilness. She slaughtered a large part of Thraben and forced Thalia to break the Helvault or Lily would have her ghouls eat Thalia's companions alive. Lily. Is. Evil.
But remember, being evil/a villain does not preclude someone from being a protagonist.
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
In today's story, both times Lily encouraged Chandra to give in and kill (first the guy in the club, then later a couple of soldiers), Chandra outright refused.
I cheered for Chandra during those moments, that was an impressive show of self-restraint on her part and a good example of how being impulsive doesn't mean you always have to pull the trigger.
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MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
In today's story, both times Lily encouraged Chandra to give in and kill (first the guy in the club, then later a couple of soldiers), Chandra outright refused.
I cheered for Chandra during those moments, that was an impressive show of self-restraint on her part and a good example of how being impulsive doesn't mean you always have to pull the trigger.
Same.
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Totally shipping Liliana and Chandra, especially when they woke up in that house together.
So many "and she gently touched her shoulder" and "she remembered how her hair looked in the morning sun".
Remember that Steve Argyle art that got him in trouble? Oh and there's the whole inclusivity thing going on in Magic, with non-binary planeswalkers, transgender warriors and fully clothed women.
Also Chandra accidentally broke the Eye of Ugin. She might do something very evil but not for evil reasons.
Liliana is growing to be her advisor, and she might lead her on a horrible path later on.
Totally shipping Liliana and Chandra, especially when they woke up in that house together.
So many "and she gently touched her shoulder" and "she remembered how her hair looked in the morning sun".
Remember that Steve Argyle art that got him in trouble? Oh and there's the whole inclusivity thing going on in Magic, with non-binary planeswalkers, transgender warriors and fully clothed women.
Also Chandra accidentally broke the Eye of Ugin. She might do something very evil but not for evil reasons.
Liliana is growing to be her advisor, and she might lead her on a horrible path later on.
I've always seen Chandra as Pan, basically she can be attracted to any sapient being regardless of gender. While Lily has always come of as Bi. But we shall see.
Also, I think it's more likely that Chandra and Nissa end up in a relationship once they learn to communicate better.
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I certainly hope so. The past few blocks' lore has been painfully bland and cliche, I'm itching for a world to get irreparably rekt and a hero to either bite the dust or become a villain. Maybe her and Garruk could could go on a rampage together.
Yeah, since the switch to this Gatewatch mess, I've lost any interest I had in the story. It has been abysmal.
Yeah, I could see a pure red mage refusing to choose, absolutely
As far as her going evil, she is GOING to end up killing the guy who killed her father and tried to kill her. I would not think that was a question, but the MTG writers kinda suck, so.... :P. But that is still in keeping with red, no reason to go black (except Wizards might pull 'bad guys have to be part black, it's how Disney does it! Hur dur) but honestly, after what he did, Chandra finding and scalping this guy, imho would not be evil, or even close. She wouldn't have to become a serial killer, just one expression of rage.
Keep in mind though, this is only my thoughts for a story written by mature authors who write well and care in any way about the quality of what they produce. I have no idea what the braintrusts who gave us months of whipping the sural/hair back and forth will decide to do
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Yeah, I could see a pure red mage refusing to choose, absolutely
As far as her going evil, she is GOING to end up killing the guy who killed her father and tried to kill her. I would not think that was a question, but the MTG writers kinda suck, so.... :P. But that is still in keeping with red, no reason to go black (except Wizards might pull 'bad guys have to be part black, it's how Disney does it! Hur dur) but honestly, after what he did, Chandra finding and scalping this guy, imho would not be evil, or even close. She wouldn't have to become a serial killer, just one expression of rage.
Keep in mind though, this is only my thoughts for a story written by mature authors who write well and care in any way about the quality of what they produce. I have no idea what the braintrusts who gave us months of whipping the sural/hair back and forth will decide to do
Considering the sheer number of non-black villains M:TG has had over the years. Probably not.
Impulsivity is completely independent of whether or not a person is strong, or weak, intelligent or dull. An impulsive person who is smart will do smart things impulsively. This is why no one should be surprised that Chandra wont impulsively kill people just because lily tries to manipulate her into it. Chandra has not lost any of her convictions just because she act impulsively, nor has she lost her morals. However people always try to convince themselves that impulsivity=weakness, when in fact impulsive people usually have to be stronger than the average person, because they are impulsive.
Yeah, I could see a pure red mage refusing to choose, absolutely
As far as her going evil, she is GOING to end up killing the guy who killed her father and tried to kill her. I would not think that was a question, but the MTG writers kinda suck, so.... :P. But that is still in keeping with red, no reason to go black (except Wizards might pull 'bad guys have to be part black, it's how Disney does it! Hur dur) but honestly, after what he did, Chandra finding and scalping this guy, imho would not be evil, or even close. She wouldn't have to become a serial killer, just one expression of rage.
Keep in mind though, this is only my thoughts for a story written by mature authors who write well and care in any way about the quality of what they produce. I have no idea what the braintrusts who gave us months of whipping the sural/hair back and forth will decide to do
Considering the sheer number of non-black villains M:TG has had over the years. Probably not.
Yeah, I could see a pure red mage refusing to choose, absolutely
As far as her going evil, she is GOING to end up killing the guy who killed her father and tried to kill her. I would not think that was a question, but the MTG writers kinda suck, so.... :P. But that is still in keeping with red, no reason to go black (except Wizards might pull 'bad guys have to be part black, it's how Disney does it! Hur dur) but honestly, after what he did, Chandra finding and scalping this guy, imho would not be evil, or even close. She wouldn't have to become a serial killer, just one expression of rage.
Keep in mind though, this is only my thoughts for a story written by mature authors who write well and care in any way about the quality of what they produce. I have no idea what the braintrusts who gave us months of whipping the sural/hair back and forth will decide to do
Considering the sheer number of non-black villains M:TG has had over the years. Probably not.
So if you watch the opening program of Kaladesh at Pax (https://youtu.be/_fuiiv0hhT0?t=21m30s) you will hear about Chandra wanting revenge for those who have wronged her and see a picture of what I attached below
To me, this seems like Liliana is on to something and Chandra looks like she´s enjoying or being manipulated by what Liliana is saying.
Do you think Liliana could push Chandra in a direction of becoming a Black and Red Planeswalker for Kaladesh?
She might do something stupid due to poor impulse control (and subtle manipulation by Lily), but she'd feel really, really bad about it afterwards. If anything she may shift slightly towards green due to Nissa's influence.
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Chandra wont ever be evil. She will, however, be very angry, and Liliana LOVES to toy with people. To become black requires corruption, such as what happened to Tezzeret the Seeker going to Tezzeret, agent of bolas.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Pauper: Burn
Modern: Burn
Legacy: Burn
EDH: Marath, Will of the Wild - Ramp/Combo | Anafenza the Foremost - French | Uril, the Miststalker - Voltron | Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury - Goodstuff
Ghost Council of Orzhov - Tokens | Lazav, Dimir Mastermind - Control | Isamaru, Hound of Konda - Tiny Leaders
I actually like that idea
Or it requires a large amount of egoism, greed, and/or lack of morals to become black aligned. Chandra is impulsive and reckless with a strong dislike of law, but ultimately she wants what is best for everyone, not just herself.
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Indeed, it also seems that Chandra is resisting Lily's temptating to join the Dark Side™. In today's story, both times Lily encouraged Chandra to give in and kill (first the guy in the club, then later a couple of soldiers), Chandra outright refused.
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Lily was never good to begin with, she revels in her evilness. She slaughtered a large part of Thraben and forced Thalia to break the Helvault or Lily would have her ghouls eat Thalia's companions alive. Lily. Is. Evil.
But remember, being evil/a villain does not preclude someone from being a protagonist.
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I don't like Chandra in this art. Doesn't feel like the Chandra, Torch of Defiance or Furious Reprisal art. Hair/eyes/browline feels a bit off.
Lily looks great though.
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10/10, I tapped.
I cheered for Chandra during those moments, that was an impressive show of self-restraint on her part and a good example of how being impulsive doesn't mean you always have to pull the trigger.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Chandra has never been entirely consistent in her appearance on the cards. It fits her chaotic nature in a sense.
Same.
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So many "and she gently touched her shoulder" and "she remembered how her hair looked in the morning sun".
Remember that Steve Argyle art that got him in trouble? Oh and there's the whole inclusivity thing going on in Magic, with non-binary planeswalkers, transgender warriors and fully clothed women.
Also Chandra accidentally broke the Eye of Ugin. She might do something very evil but not for evil reasons.
Liliana is growing to be her advisor, and she might lead her on a horrible path later on.
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I've always seen Chandra as Pan, basically she can be attracted to any sapient being regardless of gender. While Lily has always come of as Bi. But we shall see.
Also, I think it's more likely that Chandra and Nissa end up in a relationship once they learn to communicate better.
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Really. You went there? *sigh*
Ok I guess those elementals she summons...
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My thought is that it's more along the line of personality and behavior rather than appearance or species that she is attracted to.
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Or maybe you're projecting your views on a fictional character.
Please tell me where there is even a remote hint to support your theory.
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Yeah, since the switch to this Gatewatch mess, I've lost any interest I had in the story. It has been abysmal.
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UWR Jeskai Control
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As far as her going evil, she is GOING to end up killing the guy who killed her father and tried to kill her. I would not think that was a question, but the MTG writers kinda suck, so.... :P. But that is still in keeping with red, no reason to go black (except Wizards might pull 'bad guys have to be part black, it's how Disney does it! Hur dur) but honestly, after what he did, Chandra finding and scalping this guy, imho would not be evil, or even close. She wouldn't have to become a serial killer, just one expression of rage.
Keep in mind though, this is only my thoughts for a story written by mature authors who write well and care in any way about the quality of what they produce. I have no idea what the braintrusts who gave us months of whipping the sural/hair back and forth will decide to do
Considering the sheer number of non-black villains M:TG has had over the years. Probably not.
Let's see, just of the top of my head:
Memnarch
Radiant, Archangel
Konda, Lord of Eiganjo
Maraxus of Keld
The three Eldrazi
Nahiri, the Harbinger
Stitcher Geralf
Heidar, Rimewind Master
Márton Stromgald
Blind Seer (Say what you will, Urza was just as much a villain as Yawgmoth, he murdered Taysir in cold blood, and manipulated events so that Tevesh Szat murdered Daria giving Urza an excuse to kill Szat).
Rith, the Awakener and Treva, the Renewer together with Dromar and Crosis.
Empress Galina
Latulla, Keldon Overseer
Ambassador Laquatus
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Four of the five Praetors on New Phyrexia...
And that is just off the top of my head. >.<
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To add to the list:
Brago, King Eternal
Daretti, Scrap Savant?
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser
Avacyn, the Purifier (mostly)
The Lunarch Council, in SOI Block at least
For the sake of discussion, I'm gonna hold off on calling the Eldrazi villains, at least Emrakul. Emrakul pointedly tried to stop destroying Innistrad.
Yasova Dragonclaw (maybe? Less sure about this one)
Either three dragons or two khans, depending on your point of view?
Heliod, God of the Sun for sure
Xenagos, the Reveler/Xenagos, God of Revels
The other gods for a brief period of time, Kruphix probably excluded
Ral Zarek in Dragon's Maze
Ramaz
Rakka Mar
Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded
Feather (I think? I'm a bit fuzzy on that storyline)
Krenko, Mob Boss (to an extent)
Feather was as close to a Big Good the original Ravnica block had.
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