So I have this crazy theory that Eldritch Moon's Liliana will be the first angel planeswalker, either monowhite or W/B. Consider: 1) Judging by Sorin's realization at the end of the SOI fat pack story roundup about how his destruction of Avacyn (boo!) plays right into Nahiri's plans, Innistrad needs a new angelic guardian, the sooner the better. 2) Liliana has one/two more demons to deal with in future blocks, and angels are demons' natural enemy counterpart. 3) The logo for Eldritch Moon is pale purple, and Lili's the face of the set, right? Dark-purple Lili + white = pale purple!
I've almost talked myself into believing it could happen.
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Liliana hates angels with a passion. It's really against her personality as well. If they were going to actually let Liliana develop and extend into another color, it would most likely be Red with her personality. There's also the fact that we all.know that they aren't going to let the "main 5" planeswalkers be anything other than monocolor reps for their colors, despite how much that would actually be interesting.
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Lili would have to be brainwashed and forced into something like that. Her natural reaction to Innistrad being endangered without a guardian would be something like "That sucks, I'm out.".
Also, we have a WB Sorin, and another hot candidate for a WB walker is returned Elspeth. They would hardly make another one in the same colors.
Another thing is, will Innistrad need a new guardian at all? If the big bad in EMN is some uber evil inherent to the plane and not Emrakul, the balance might as well last on itself, without being kept artificially.
Of course, you're all almost certainly totally right, but for the sake of continuing irresponsible, near-baseless speculation...
I'm not at all suggesting Liliana would become an angel willingly. I think it'd be highly amusing if she was super pissed-off about the whole thing (and imagine the story potential!). Yes, I know that PWs don't have types per se, but it's not not a thing, either. Gideon's a white soldier, Ob's a black demon, etc.
She's one of the five monocolored PWs, sure - now. Garruk used to be the green one, and now it's Nissa, and Ob Nixilis was just introduced as a monoblack planeswalker. She could be replaced.
Avacyn was created, yes, but there are plenty of cards - Angelic Armaments, Angelic Destiny - that bestow the "angel" type on a non-angel creature, and plenty of people tossed around the idea of Nahiri being Avacyn before SOI nixed the idea, so it's not that crazy. (Or maybe it is, in which case, welcome to Innistrad, am I right?)
Anyway, to sum up: let's start looking forward to...Mardu-colored "Liliana, Reluctant Archangel?"
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I think Liliana's role in Eldrich Moon is most likely one of an opportunist, rather than helper. If anything, when Nahiri and Sorin are about to square off in a battle I can see Liliana showing up to either one to tempt them with The Chain Veil.
Basically saying "Hey, how would you like a super power magical artifact that will give you an edge in the upcoming battle? I let you borrow it if you promise to give it back and you'll owe me a few favors for letting you use it."
Then when she's free of the veil she vanishes, delighted that she was able to trick another Planeswalker into taking the cursed object.
While they could find an explanation for such transformation I don't think they would ever actually do it. Lilliana is a pretty beloved Planeswalker for her characteristics and completely changing them would not please her fanbase. Also, I don't think it would please those who are waiting for an Angel Planeswalker either.
While they could find an explanation for such transformation I don't think they would ever actually do it. Lilliana is a pretty beloved Planeswalker for her characteristics and completely changing them would not please her fanbase. Also, I don't think it would please those who are waiting for an Angel Planeswalker either.
All true, all true. Honestly, I'm really hoping that somehow, by *magic*, when Avacyn was unmade, it somehow ignited a planeswalker spark. I know, I know, not going to happen.
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I have an insane theory that after Jace and Tamiyo tell Sorin why Avacyn went mad, he takes Nahiri's spark(by most likely killing her) and gives it to Avacyn that she may help the Gatewatch keep vigil. I think it's the only way Avacyn (who is a fairly popular character) can continue in the story (the people of Innistrad no longer trust her). It has been mentioned on Maro's blog that the only way a construct being can become a planeswalker is by being given a spark and they can't be born with one. http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/132911832078/is-it-true-that-an-angel-creature-could-never
1. Fusion-She fuses with another person or thing. Tibalt accomplished this to become Devil Walker
2. Donation/grafting->Karn twice and Slobad from Glissa
3. Transformation-> Ob Nixilis
My presumption that Thalia would be the one that would have to fuse with Avacyn. The issue with Avacyn is that she's not really all that much when it comes to personality. Which is in part probably why they killed her off.
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It does seem like Sigarda is set up to take Avacyn's place as benevolent protector of Innistrad. So: either Avacyn is truly unmade, gone, kaput; or she ascends to ??? Clearly, she won't be taking her former role, and I find it difficult - not impossible - to believe that such a popular "good guy" character would have a one-block end of "went crazy, became supervillian, was utterly destroyed" especially when her madness seems to not be her fault. So...yeah, okay, planeswalker, somehow.
I'd be down with Thalia/Avacyn PW, for sure. She'd kinda take Elspeth's old space, too, so there'd be some freedom to make her a zombie PW in the next Theros block.
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Why don't we just get completely crazy and make tibalt the first angel/devil planeswalker and make him mono red. They have a mono red angel theme here now, and it would be the most ironic thing ever and probably would cement his status as most hated planeswalker of all time, twice
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I've almost talked myself into believing it could happen.
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Also, we have a WB Sorin, and another hot candidate for a WB walker is returned Elspeth. They would hardly make another one in the same colors.
Another thing is, will Innistrad need a new guardian at all? If the big bad in EMN is some uber evil inherent to the plane and not Emrakul, the balance might as well last on itself, without being kept artificially.
I'm not at all suggesting Liliana would become an angel willingly. I think it'd be highly amusing if she was super pissed-off about the whole thing (and imagine the story potential!). Yes, I know that PWs don't have types per se, but it's not not a thing, either. Gideon's a white soldier, Ob's a black demon, etc.
She's one of the five monocolored PWs, sure - now. Garruk used to be the green one, and now it's Nissa, and Ob Nixilis was just introduced as a monoblack planeswalker. She could be replaced.
Avacyn was created, yes, but there are plenty of cards - Angelic Armaments, Angelic Destiny - that bestow the "angel" type on a non-angel creature, and plenty of people tossed around the idea of Nahiri being Avacyn before SOI nixed the idea, so it's not that crazy. (Or maybe it is, in which case, welcome to Innistrad, am I right?)
Anyway, to sum up: let's start looking forward to...Mardu-colored "Liliana, Reluctant Archangel?"
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Basically saying "Hey, how would you like a super power magical artifact that will give you an edge in the upcoming battle? I let you borrow it if you promise to give it back and you'll owe me a few favors for letting you use it."
Then when she's free of the veil she vanishes, delighted that she was able to trick another Planeswalker into taking the cursed object.
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All true, all true. Honestly, I'm really hoping that somehow, by *magic*, when Avacyn was unmade, it somehow ignited a planeswalker spark. I know, I know, not going to happen.
"YOU ARE A PLANESWALKER," so let me draw you as one. Check out my art-for-cards trade thread here: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/trading-post/details/1564-you-are-a-planeswalker-and-i-will-draw-you-as
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/132911832078/is-it-true-that-an-angel-creature-could-never
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If this is correct, at this point I'm putting my money on Sigarda. She feels like a perfectly good replacement.
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I didn't read the fat pack booklet, is this still possible after reading it?
1. Fusion-She fuses with another person or thing. Tibalt accomplished this to become Devil Walker
2. Donation/grafting->Karn twice and Slobad from Glissa
3. Transformation-> Ob Nixilis
My presumption that Thalia would be the one that would have to fuse with Avacyn. The issue with Avacyn is that she's not really all that much when it comes to personality. Which is in part probably why they killed her off.
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I'd be down with Thalia/Avacyn PW, for sure. She'd kinda take Elspeth's old space, too, so there'd be some freedom to make her a zombie PW in the next Theros block.
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