So we have the new leak which while not showing us any crazy cards gave us substantial information about the next set.
1. nahiri is back and she is apparently pissed off
2. flip cards confirmed
3. several new keywords
4. 2 official graveyard keywords
So how does everyone think this will impact prices and standard? what other planeswalker a do you think will be around with the new info. Here are some of my bets:
1. origins jace will skyrocket higher than he is already as both graveyard key words are helped by him unless the new jace is even more bonkers. This also holds true for origins Lilliana.
2. I think nahiri will be RW as anger would likely fit her moving into red and WR are the typical equipment oriented colors.
3. we knew jace was coming so assuming nahiri is RW and jack is U as normal we will likely either get a B or a G walker in the third slot. we could get a brand new walker but my bet is on an old one. Maybe Vraska as she would fit both or Lilliana. I'm guessing that if nahiri is the villain Sorin will be coming in the next set as WB making it more likely the walker in this set will be G so maybe garruk will make a minor appearance in the story. I'm thinking Vraska is the most likely candidate though.
We won't be getting a new Lily in SOI block for reasons to numerous to list.
We can be all but assured we will get Nahiri, Sorin, and Jace in this block. Nahiri is the "villain", she is after Sorin, and Jace has been confirmed through artwork to be on the plane.
For a fourth walker we are likely (but not guaranteed) to get a new Tibalt card. Despite his first card being very bad, WotC are well aware of the popularity of the character, and we know he is still on Innistrad.
That leaves us with one slot left for a planeswalker, this slot will likely be taken up by a new planeswalker, unless they decide to be incredibly nice to us and give us a new Tamiyo.
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Nahiri definitely seems to be leaning on red. Looking at the flavor text, which is currently partially blocked, my best guess is "As Zendikar has bled, so will Innistrad. As I have (bled? some other word for suffering?), so will Sorin." Making someone suffer as payback for your own suffering, instead of as punishment for moral transgression, is not in any way white.
I would be surprised if Sorin doesn't show up, since they want to have everyone who is a character in the story appear on a card. I don't think Nahiri destroying everything while Sorin is gone doing something else is a moving story. They have also said that they don't choose to include PWs by color.
I think they balance the colors of planeswalkers usually though we haven't had a block with more than 2 of the same color planeswalker that I can remember unless you count bolas from alara block, though memory isn't amazing so I could be wrong.
I think they balance the colors of planeswalkers usually though we haven't had a block with more than 2 of the same color planeswalker that I can remember unless you count bolas from alara block, though memory isn't amazing so I could be wrong.
There was three black planeswalkers in the original Innistrad block. Lily, Sorin, and Garruk.
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Calling Sorin will be in the story but not the set. Wizards has stated that you can be a walker in the story and have no card. So I'm banking on Nahiri, Jace and Tibalt as my easy bets with Lilianna close behind. I don't think they'd make two whole sets without her after stating her importance in Origins. Maybe not in Shadows but certainly in the second set. Tamiyo wouldn't surprise me but the 5th walker I actually expect to be either someone new or unexpected.
Nahiri definitely seems to be leaning on red. Looking at the flavor text, which is currently partially blocked, my best guess is "As Zendikar has bled, so will Innistrad. As I have (bled? some other word for suffering?), so will Sorin." Making someone suffer as payback for your own suffering, instead of as punishment for moral transgression, is not in any way white.
Do we know for certain that Nahiri says that out of spite? Perhaps she's speaking from a position closer to what Sorin had during KTK, something more sorrowful. Perhaps Emrakul is starting an attack on Innistrad and Nahiri is lamenting that Innistrad is facing incoming grief as Zendikar did? We need more context.
I would be surprised if Sorin doesn't show up, since they want to have everyone who is a character in the story appear on a card. I don't think Nahiri destroying everything while Sorin is gone doing something else is a moving story. They have also said that they don't choose to include PWs by color.
While color is not the sole deciding factor, there is a development need for colors to remain roughly balanced in Standard as far as PW representation goes. Innistrad and Theros both had three planeswalker cards of a given color:
Any more than that would have tilted PW presence too heavily towards those colors. And since Lorwyn, the only time we've never seen all five colors represented among the PWs of a given block is Scars of Mirrodin, which eschewed green.
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MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
I think Vraska is not an unlikely candidate for the block's green planeswalker. She would have a reason for being here, following Jace for revenge, and she suits the setting quite well.
We won't be getting a new Lily in SOI block for reasons to numerous to list.
We can be all but assured we will get Nahiri, Sorin, and Jace in this block. Nahiri is the "villain", she is after Sorin, and Jace has been confirmed through artwork to be on the plane.
For a fourth walker we are likely (but not guaranteed) to get a new Tibalt card. Despite his first card being very bad, WotC are well aware of the popularity of the character, and we know he is still on Innistrad.
That leaves us with one slot left for a planeswalker, this slot will likely be taken up by a new planeswalker, unless they decide to be incredibly nice to us and give us a new Tamiyo.
With Madness returning i see a new Tibalt comming...
Calling Sorin will be in the story but not the set. Wizards has stated that you can be a walker in the story and have no card. So I'm banking on Nahiri, Jace and Tibalt as my easy bets with Lilianna close behind. I don't think they'd make two whole sets without her after stating her importance in Origins. Maybe not in Shadows but certainly in the second set. Tamiyo wouldn't surprise me but the 5th walker I actually expect to be either someone new or unexpected.
Oh, for the love of...
Seriously people, stop with the Lily speculation. She has no reason to show up on Innistrad, quite contrary, it would be hazardous to her health to show up. So why would she? And don't say "because she loves/wants to help Jace". She doesn't, contrary to what some people believe, she couldn't care less about Jace if she tried. He is convenient if she can get him to help her with little to no effort on her part, that's it. Liliana Vess cares about exactly one person, and one person only, herself. Her showing up in SOI block to help out would be completely counter to her characterization and personality.
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Calling Sorin will be in the story but not the set. Wizards has stated that you can be a walker in the story and have no card. So I'm banking on Nahiri, Jace and Tibalt as my easy bets with Lilianna close behind. I don't think they'd make two whole sets without her after stating her importance in Origins. Maybe not in Shadows but certainly in the second set. Tamiyo wouldn't surprise me but the 5th walker I actually expect to be either someone new or unexpected.
Oh, for the love of...
Seriously people, stop with the Lily speculation. She has no reason to show up on Innistrad, quite contrary, it would be hazardous to her health to show up. So why would she? And don't say "because she loves/wants to help Jace". She doesn't, contrary to what some people believe, she couldn't care less about Jace if she tried. He is convenient if she can get him to help her with little to no effort on her part, that's it. Liliana Vess cares about exactly one person, and one person only, herself. Her showing up in SOI block to help out would be completely counter to her characterization and personality.
Not like WOTC will consider past personalities of characters if they view them as a hindrance to their future story plans...
I don't think Liliana SHOULD be there either, but story coherence or logic doesn't seem to be a factor for WOTC when writing stories.
Calling Sorin will be in the story but not the set. Wizards has stated that you can be a walker in the story and have no card. So I'm banking on Nahiri, Jace and Tibalt as my easy bets with Lilianna close behind. I don't think they'd make two whole sets without her after stating her importance in Origins. Maybe not in Shadows but certainly in the second set. Tamiyo wouldn't surprise me but the 5th walker I actually expect to be either someone new or unexpected.
Oh, for the love of...
Seriously people, stop with the Lily speculation. She has no reason to show up on Innistrad, quite contrary, it would be hazardous to her health to show up. So why would she? And don't say "because she loves/wants to help Jace". She doesn't, contrary to what some people believe, she couldn't care less about Jace if she tried. He is convenient if she can get him to help her with little to no effort on her part, that's it. Liliana Vess cares about exactly one person, and one person only, herself. Her showing up in SOI block to help out would be completely counter to her characterization and personality.
Not like WOTC will consider past personalities of characters if they view them as a hindrance to their future story plans...
I don't think Liliana SHOULD be there either, but story coherence or logic doesn't seem to be a factor for WOTC when writing stories.
Something mind you, they have gotten a lot better at doing the storyline now compared to earlier. Compare the story of Theros with the abortion that is the weatherlight saga and you will find that the former is a lot better written and consistent than the former. Story writing is an evolving process, but at least now the characters act in a consistent and coherent way rather than in a way consistent with schizophrenia (No offense to schizophrenic people intended).
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I think a legendary Werewolf in the first or second set is all but confirmed. WOTC likes polling the fans and a RG Legendary Werewolf was high up on the list of cards people wanted right after a 5-color Ally legend.
Story writing is an evolving process, but at least now the characters act in a consistent and coherent way rather than in a way consistent with schizophrenia (No offense to schizophrenic people intended).
Nissa in particular :).
Nope. Sorry but it's not more consistant. It is better, yes. Probably because of a better team or better team membres but the logic of game over story and marketing over story is still in place. And thank God! At the end of the day, we care very little about the story.
Eh, different strokes for different people and all that. Personally I enjoy the characters personalities and motivations much more than the actual stories. Always been that way.
But I do like that they've removed the "Elven Supremacist" aspect of Nissa. But I blame that earlier incarnation of her on her upbringing rather than her core being. I think the visit to Lorwyn went a long way towards getting her out of the "elven supremacy" mindset. And explained it organically as well.
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Now that we know Werewolves and Humans are both in the set, what are the odds that we're going to see a Cavern of Souls reprint? Seems like a ripe target, now that Wizards has said they're going to be aggressive with reprints, there's only one printing of it, it's a mult-format staple, and the card has eclipsed $40.
Now that we know Werewolves and Humans are both in the set, what are the odds that we're going to see a Cavern of Souls reprint? Seems like a ripe target, now that Wizards has said they're going to be aggressive with reprints, there's only one printing of it, it's a mult-format staple, and the card has eclipsed $40.
I would put the odds at less than 2%, not impossible, but highly unlikely.
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We won't be getting a new Lily in SOI block for reasons to numerous to list.
Bold claim. What are those reasons? Not all of them, but maybe something that explains why Liliana wouldn't appear on the plane that has been tied to her as recently as Magic Origins and especially right after every other 'walker from the Origins Five (the 'main characters' for the foreseeable future) has seen print.
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Planar Chaos was not a mistake neither was it random. You might want to look at it again.
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We won't be getting a new Lily in SOI block for reasons to numerous to list.
Bold claim. What are those reasons? Not all of them, but maybe something that explains why Liliana wouldn't appear on the plane that has been tied to her as recently as Magic Origins and especially right after every other 'walker from the Origins Five (the 'main characters' for the foreseeable future) has seen print.
I suggest you read any of the dozens of other speculative threads on SOI, where they are listed. Not that it matters as we are getting her anyway against any sensible logic. But they will likely have a good reason for her to show up, that likely has to do with either one of her three problems.
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I suggest you read any of the dozens of other speculative threads on SOI, where they are listed. Not that it matters as we are getting her anyway against any sensible logic. But they will likely have a good reason for her to show up, that likely has to do with either one of her three problems.
There are so many and all I recall is that she is supposedly scared of Sorin for some reason. Though as far as I know the two of them have never met or know of each others affairs (even though they indirectly meddled with each other - AFAIK unbeknownst to each other).
Is there more to it? I have not followed Uncharted Realm enough to know whether there is more to it, but the Gamepedia-articles do not reveal anything in that regard.
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Planar Chaos was not a mistake neither was it random. You might want to look at it again.
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I suggest you read any of the dozens of other speculative threads on SOI, where they are listed. Not that it matters as we are getting her anyway against any sensible logic. But they will likely have a good reason for her to show up, that likely has to do with either one of her three problems.
There are so many and all I recall is that she is supposedly scared of Sorin for some reason. Though as far as I know the two of them have never met or know of each others affairs (even though they indirectly meddled with each other - AFAIK unbeknownst to each other).
Is there more to it? I have not followed Uncharted Realm enough to know whether there is more to it, but the Gamepedia-articles do not reveal anything in that regard.
Long story short, she slaughtered and reanimated as zombies half of the largest city in Innistrad, including the high priest of the Avacynian church, she then forced through torture a high ranking member of said church to break a prison for demons because her target was in it. This prison was the only reliable way to permanently deal with the demons of the plane. As soon as the prison was broken, she hunted down her target leaving the city and the survivors behind. There is no logical way that the church of Avacyn doesn't want her head after that, as the survivors will have told them who did it (and a lot of it was showboating on Lily's part to get Thalia to break the prison), and if the church knows, Avacyn knows, and if Avacyn knows, you can be sure that Sorin knows, and Sorin is not a man who is known for being forgiving or mercyful. Lily directly endangered the vampires of Innistrad's food source, something Sorin has gone to great lengths to preserve and protect.
So, logically things must indeed be dire for Sorin to ignore Lily when she returns.
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Avacyn knows, and if Avacyn knows, you can be sure that Sorin knows
I'm not privvy to their relationship after Avacyn's creation (and Sorin's depowerment). Is she beholden to him? Do they have a regular rapport? The Gamepedia-article makes it seem like in original Innistrad Sorin planned to take care of Avacyn's disappearance, but got sidetracked and Liliana resolved the issue.
The article makes it seem that with AVR accomplished Sorin moved on without actually interacting with Liliana nor Avacyn. Really, the only way to make it seem like Sorin would care less about Liliana's actual method to free Avacyn was if the article included the line "and then he shrugged".
It could be that Sorin during the time of imbalance would frown upon further slaughter of the increasingly rare human cattle, but as he has balance in mind and not the sovereignity of humankind Liliana overall did him a favor. He doesn't need to share the feelings of his creation.
And even if Sorin knows *and* cares about Liliana's methods (which I cannot verify from my sources). Liliana doesn't need to realize/care her return would lead to problems for her (especially since she is on an irresponsible power trip recently - though it seems there has been character development that I haven't caught up to, so feel free to correct me). Characters have flaws. And not giving credit to the puny humans and their church is the kind of flaw Liliana could show. Maybe she'll make a mistake and "learn a lesson"; maybe she'll turn out to be powerful enough to not care.
All I want to say is: Characters not taking into account all possible consequences of their actions (especially some they might not know) is not necessarily bad story-telling. Some characters have a tendency to ignore certain options or favor others - and so far this has read to me as a case of "with perfect audience-knowledge and without character flaws Liliana certainly has" type of speculation.
Once again: Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really see the sting of betrayal from this quite expected revelation.
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Avacyn knows, and if Avacyn knows, you can be sure that Sorin knows
I'm not privvy to their relationship after Avacyn's creation (and Sorin's depowerment). Is she beholden to him? Do they have a regular rapport? The Gamepedia-article makes it seem like in original Innistrad Sorin planned to take care of Avacyn's disappearance, but got sidetracked and Liliana resolved the issue.
The article makes it seem that with AVR accomplished Sorin moved on without actually interacting with Liliana nor Avacyn. Really, the only way to make it seem like Sorin would care less about Liliana's actual method to free Avacyn was if the article included the line "and then he shrugged".
It could be that Sorin during the time of imbalance would frown upon further slaughter of the increasingly rare human cattle, but as he has balance in mind and not the sovereignity of humankind Liliana overall did him a favor. He doesn't need to share the feelings of his creation.
And even if Sorin knows *and* cares about Liliana's methods (which I cannot verify from my sources). Liliana doesn't need to realize/care her return would lead to problems for her (especially since she is on an irresponsible power trip recently - though it seems there has been character development that I haven't caught up to, so feel free to correct me). Characters have flaws. And not giving credit to the puny humans and their church is the kind of flaw Liliana could show. Maybe she'll make a mistake and "learn a lesson"; maybe she'll turn out to be powerful enough to not care.
All I want to say is: Characters not taking into account all possible consequences of their actions (especially some they might not know) is not necessarily bad story-telling. Some characters have a tendency to ignore certain options or favor others - and so far this has read to me as a case of "with perfect audience-knowledge and without character flaws Liliana certainly has" type of speculation.
Once again: Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really see the sting of betrayal from this quite expected revelation.
Sorin created Avacyn for one purpose, and one purpose only: To Shepherd his Cattle. It would be foolish for anyone to put someone in charge of their resources without having some level of power of them. Avacyn likely bows to Sorin and sees him as her master/creator.
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Sorin created Avacyn for one purpose, and one purpose only: To Shepherd his Cattle. It would be foolish for anyone to put someone in charge of their resources without having some level of power of them. Avacyn likely bows to Sorin and sees him as her master/creator.
That's conjecture. Quite as likely as "Oldwalker Sorin did never worry about a failsafe, because oldwalker powers were failsafe enough"
Here is some other conjecture: Sorin wanted to travel the multiverse without having to take care of Innistrad, so Avacyn was created with the capability of independence and agency i. e. as her own character. With the purpose she was created for we can't even say she follows Asimov's Laws of Robotics.
It is nice that you have so much confidence in that one specific link in the chain necessary to hold the assumption "Liliana in SoI is against what we know of the story" but it is far from the only one I find dubious. Even "Avacyn bows to Sorin" and "Avacyn sees Sorin as creator" are quite different levels of obvious - and we don't know either to be true, so let's e. g. meet in the middle and say the lesser assumption is true: Avacyn might acknowledge Sorin as creator (rather than attempting to slay the vampire scum), but still might be able to disagree with him as much as any daughter might.
How would that reflect on your suggestion that Avacyn necessarily told Daddy and Liliana necessarily found out about Daddy being angry?
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1. nahiri is back and she is apparently pissed off
2. flip cards confirmed
3. several new keywords
4. 2 official graveyard keywords
So how does everyone think this will impact prices and standard? what other planeswalker a do you think will be around with the new info. Here are some of my bets:
1. origins jace will skyrocket higher than he is already as both graveyard key words are helped by him unless the new jace is even more bonkers. This also holds true for origins Lilliana.
2. I think nahiri will be RW as anger would likely fit her moving into red and WR are the typical equipment oriented colors.
3. we knew jace was coming so assuming nahiri is RW and jack is U as normal we will likely either get a B or a G walker in the third slot. we could get a brand new walker but my bet is on an old one. Maybe Vraska as she would fit both or Lilliana. I'm guessing that if nahiri is the villain Sorin will be coming in the next set as WB making it more likely the walker in this set will be G so maybe garruk will make a minor appearance in the story. I'm thinking Vraska is the most likely candidate though.
what are your thoughts
We can be all but assured we will get Nahiri, Sorin, and Jace in this block. Nahiri is the "villain", she is after Sorin, and Jace has been confirmed through artwork to be on the plane.
For a fourth walker we are likely (but not guaranteed) to get a new Tibalt card. Despite his first card being very bad, WotC are well aware of the popularity of the character, and we know he is still on Innistrad.
That leaves us with one slot left for a planeswalker, this slot will likely be taken up by a new planeswalker, unless they decide to be incredibly nice to us and give us a new Tamiyo.
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I would be surprised if Sorin doesn't show up, since they want to have everyone who is a character in the story appear on a card. I don't think Nahiri destroying everything while Sorin is gone doing something else is a moving story. They have also said that they don't choose to include PWs by color.
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Do we know for certain that Nahiri says that out of spite? Perhaps she's speaking from a position closer to what Sorin had during KTK, something more sorrowful. Perhaps Emrakul is starting an attack on Innistrad and Nahiri is lamenting that Innistrad is facing incoming grief as Zendikar did? We need more context.
While color is not the sole deciding factor, there is a development need for colors to remain roughly balanced in Standard as far as PW representation goes. Innistrad and Theros both had three planeswalker cards of a given color:
Innistrad - Liliana of the Veil, Garruk, the Veil-Cursed, Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
Theros - Xenagos, the Reveler, Kiora, the Crashing Wave, Ajani, Mentor of Heroes
Any more than that would have tilted PW presence too heavily towards those colors. And since Lorwyn, the only time we've never seen all five colors represented among the PWs of a given block is Scars of Mirrodin, which eschewed green.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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With Madness returning i see a new Tibalt comming...
Oh, for the love of...
Seriously people, stop with the Lily speculation. She has no reason to show up on Innistrad, quite contrary, it would be hazardous to her health to show up. So why would she? And don't say "because she loves/wants to help Jace". She doesn't, contrary to what some people believe, she couldn't care less about Jace if she tried. He is convenient if she can get him to help her with little to no effort on her part, that's it. Liliana Vess cares about exactly one person, and one person only, herself. Her showing up in SOI block to help out would be completely counter to her characterization and personality.
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Not like WOTC will consider past personalities of characters if they view them as a hindrance to their future story plans...
I don't think Liliana SHOULD be there either, but story coherence or logic doesn't seem to be a factor for WOTC when writing stories.
Something mind you, they have gotten a lot better at doing the storyline now compared to earlier. Compare the story of Theros with the abortion that is the weatherlight saga and you will find that the former is a lot better written and consistent than the former. Story writing is an evolving process, but at least now the characters act in a consistent and coherent way rather than in a way consistent with schizophrenia (No offense to schizophrenic people intended).
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Eh, different strokes for different people and all that. Personally I enjoy the characters personalities and motivations much more than the actual stories. Always been that way.
But I do like that they've removed the "Elven Supremacist" aspect of Nissa. But I blame that earlier incarnation of her on her upbringing rather than her core being. I think the visit to Lorwyn went a long way towards getting her out of the "elven supremacy" mindset. And explained it organically as well.
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Bold claim. What are those reasons? Not all of them, but maybe something that explains why Liliana wouldn't appear on the plane that has been tied to her as recently as Magic Origins and especially right after every other 'walker from the Origins Five (the 'main characters' for the foreseeable future) has seen print.
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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I suggest you read any of the dozens of other speculative threads on SOI, where they are listed. Not that it matters as we are getting her anyway against any sensible logic. But they will likely have a good reason for her to show up, that likely has to do with either one of her three problems.
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There are so many and all I recall is that she is supposedly scared of Sorin for some reason. Though as far as I know the two of them have never met or know of each others affairs (even though they indirectly meddled with each other - AFAIK unbeknownst to each other).
Is there more to it? I have not followed Uncharted Realm enough to know whether there is more to it, but the Gamepedia-articles do not reveal anything in that regard.
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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Long story short, she slaughtered and reanimated as zombies half of the largest city in Innistrad, including the high priest of the Avacynian church, she then forced through torture a high ranking member of said church to break a prison for demons because her target was in it. This prison was the only reliable way to permanently deal with the demons of the plane. As soon as the prison was broken, she hunted down her target leaving the city and the survivors behind. There is no logical way that the church of Avacyn doesn't want her head after that, as the survivors will have told them who did it (and a lot of it was showboating on Lily's part to get Thalia to break the prison), and if the church knows, Avacyn knows, and if Avacyn knows, you can be sure that Sorin knows, and Sorin is not a man who is known for being forgiving or mercyful. Lily directly endangered the vampires of Innistrad's food source, something Sorin has gone to great lengths to preserve and protect.
So, logically things must indeed be dire for Sorin to ignore Lily when she returns.
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Numquam evolutioni obstes. Solum conculceris.
Pascite draconem, evolvite aut morimini.
I'm not privvy to their relationship after Avacyn's creation (and Sorin's depowerment). Is she beholden to him? Do they have a regular rapport? The Gamepedia-article makes it seem like in original Innistrad Sorin planned to take care of Avacyn's disappearance, but got sidetracked and Liliana resolved the issue.
The article makes it seem that with AVR accomplished Sorin moved on without actually interacting with Liliana nor Avacyn. Really, the only way to make it seem like Sorin would care less about Liliana's actual method to free Avacyn was if the article included the line "and then he shrugged".
It could be that Sorin during the time of imbalance would frown upon further slaughter of the increasingly rare human cattle, but as he has balance in mind and not the sovereignity of humankind Liliana overall did him a favor. He doesn't need to share the feelings of his creation.
And even if Sorin knows *and* cares about Liliana's methods (which I cannot verify from my sources). Liliana doesn't need to realize/care her return would lead to problems for her (especially since she is on an irresponsible power trip recently - though it seems there has been character development that I haven't caught up to, so feel free to correct me). Characters have flaws. And not giving credit to the puny humans and their church is the kind of flaw Liliana could show. Maybe she'll make a mistake and "learn a lesson"; maybe she'll turn out to be powerful enough to not care.
All I want to say is: Characters not taking into account all possible consequences of their actions (especially some they might not know) is not necessarily bad story-telling. Some characters have a tendency to ignore certain options or favor others - and so far this has read to me as a case of "with perfect audience-knowledge and without character flaws Liliana certainly has" type of speculation.
Once again: Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't really see the sting of betrayal from this quite expected revelation.
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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Sorin created Avacyn for one purpose, and one purpose only: To Shepherd his Cattle. It would be foolish for anyone to put someone in charge of their resources without having some level of power of them. Avacyn likely bows to Sorin and sees him as her master/creator.
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Numquam evolutioni obstes. Solum conculceris.
Pascite draconem, evolvite aut morimini.
That's conjecture. Quite as likely as "Oldwalker Sorin did never worry about a failsafe, because oldwalker powers were failsafe enough"
Here is some other conjecture: Sorin wanted to travel the multiverse without having to take care of Innistrad, so Avacyn was created with the capability of independence and agency i. e. as her own character. With the purpose she was created for we can't even say she follows Asimov's Laws of Robotics.
It is nice that you have so much confidence in that one specific link in the chain necessary to hold the assumption "Liliana in SoI is against what we know of the story" but it is far from the only one I find dubious. Even "Avacyn bows to Sorin" and "Avacyn sees Sorin as creator" are quite different levels of obvious - and we don't know either to be true, so let's e. g. meet in the middle and say the lesser assumption is true: Avacyn might acknowledge Sorin as creator (rather than attempting to slay the vampire scum), but still might be able to disagree with him as much as any daughter might.
How would that reflect on your suggestion that Avacyn necessarily told Daddy and Liliana necessarily found out about Daddy being angry?
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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Relevant link to the discussion in previous posts.