In the Planeswalker's Guide to Tarkir, a description of one of the schools of the Jeskai offered a description of a way of fighting that utilized conjuring many pearls. I know this is a stretch, but it almost feels like this section was written specifically to allude to Grapeshot. I don't expect it to appear in Khans, but I think it could potentially show up as a mechanic in Fate Reforged or the third set.
This is a martial arts tradition whose adherents are called pearl fighters. They are wanderers who arbitrate conflicts between villagers. Their style involves light-footed combat and a strict code of law. During battle, pearl fighters conjure and manipulate thousands of pearls. Pearl fighters can use these pearls both offensively and defensively. They can send thousands through the air like a wave, or ensnare their enemy in a great cloud. After a great battle between pearl fighters and a band of outlaws, the ground was blanketed with so many pearls that it looked like snow had fallen. Children gathered the incandescent remnants hoping to sell them, but they evaporated hours after the battle.
No, no and no. Storm is a 10 on Maro's fabled "Storm scale." That means it's considered extremely unlikely that Wizards will ever bring it back, at least in a normal expert level expansion (see Flusterstorm). There won't be any storm cards created or brought back in Khans block and it's doubtful we'll see it again period.
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The keyword you're looking for is called Prowess, which is basically Storm.
Which are completely different. Storm increases spells on the stack, Prowess is just a triggered creature ability.
To the OP: Storm flies in the face of the NWO, that the complexity of commons must be simple, and since many Storm spells (like Grapeshot) were common/uncommon, MaRo put Storm in the lowest possible ranking to ever be returned in an expansion set.
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Old enough to know better, much too young to care.
The keyword you're looking for is called Prowess, which is basically Storm.
Which are completely different. Storm increases spells on the stack, Prowess is just a triggered creature ability.
To the OP: Storm flies in the face of the NWO, that the complexity of commons must be simple, and since many Storm spells (like Grapeshot) were common/uncommon, MaRo put Storm in the lowest possible ranking to ever be returned in an expansion set.
It's not even for NWO. It's because Storm is simply impossible to balance: it's either completely broken or utter crap. Every time they brought Storm back, it was too strong. So they gave up trying.
In the Planeswalker's Guide to Tarkir, a description of one of the schools of the Jeskai offered a description of a way of fighting that utilized conjuring many pearls. I know this is a stretch, but it almost feels like this section was written specifically to allude to Grapeshot. I don't expect it to appear in Khans, but I think it could potentially show up as a mechanic in Fate Reforged or the third set. http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/planeswalkers-guide-khans-tarkir-part-1-2014-09-03
Considering the scale for measuring the likeliness of returning mechanics is called the storm scale, with storm being at the high end of never returning, I don't believe you are correct in your prediction.
STATISTICS.
All of these "Let's eliminate bad cards" crusades are simply ignorant. And when they start to devolve into "WotC is conspiring to give us crappy cards," they just become embarrassing. MATH is conspiring to give you crappy cards.
STATISTICS.
All of these "Let's eliminate bad cards" crusades are simply ignorant. And when they start to devolve into "WotC is conspiring to give us crappy cards," they just become embarrassing. MATH is conspiring to give you crappy cards.
Yes, they're obviously different, but he's on point - Prowess is the "casting more spells matters" mechanic that the Jeskai imply
No, that's like saying haste and battalion are 'basically the same'
That's not even close to similar. I'm comparing two keywords that focus on playing many spells before going for the "push"
You compared things that...yeah no. No.
My comparison of Prowess to a "friendlier" storm-like mechanic was fine.
Personally I would love for them to bring back Gravestorm rather than storm. I feel it would be easier to balance and harder to break(granted there are a few combos but they're a lot harder to pull off than a storm win)
Gad I hope not. Storm is such a inherently broken mechanic, and it breaks other cards too. It feels wrong to me that a combo that can "just sustain itself" can win out of nowhere because of storm.
So many of the "broken cards" are only broken because they allow storm shenanigans.
Yes, they're obviously different, but he's on point - Prowess is the "casting more spells matters" mechanic that the Jeskai imply
No, that's like saying haste and battalion are 'basically the same'
That's not even close to similar. I'm comparing two keywords that focus on playing many spells before going for the "push"
You compared things that...yeah no. No.
My comparison of Prowess to a "friendlier" storm-like mechanic was fine.
And haste and battalion both foster the mentality of mustering groups of creatures to attack with quickly.
You said prowess was basically storm, that's entirely incorrect.
STATISTICS.
All of these "Let's eliminate bad cards" crusades are simply ignorant. And when they start to devolve into "WotC is conspiring to give us crappy cards," they just become embarrassing. MATH is conspiring to give you crappy cards.
I think we can all agree that WoTC is happy with Storm where it is, out of standard and nerfed in eternal formats dont expect it back in any thing outside of supplements like Modern Masters or Commander
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No. There are various problems associated with storm, mainly that it is either too good or too bad and requires enablers. Storm is about as likely to return in standard as horsemanship or banding.
Yes, they're obviously different, but he's on point - Prowess is the "casting more spells matters" mechanic that the Jeskai imply
No, that's like saying haste and battalion are 'basically the same'
That's not even close to similar. I'm comparing two keywords that focus on playing many spells before going for the "push"
You compared things that...yeah no. No.
My comparison of Prowess to a "friendlier" storm-like mechanic was fine.
And haste and battalion both foster the mentality of mustering groups of creatures to attack with quickly.
You said prowess was basically storm, that's entirely incorrect.
Stop picking at "they're two different mechanics." Obviously they're two different mechanics. I understand that they're two different mechanics. That's why one is Storm and the other is Prowess, but read the description in the OP which I was responding to. Both Storm and Prowess fill a similar "mental image" of the given description.
And stop comparing Haste and Batallion. Haste doesn't have anything to do with mustering groups. At least compare Banding and Battalion. Or Battalion and Soulbond.
I'd love them to bring Storm back. I know they won't since it's at 10 on the Storm Scale, but if that was true, why was Grapeshot reprinted and not banned in Modern? I honestly think they could bring Storm back, but they would not bring any spells in that could just straight out kill your opponent.
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Storm and Prowess are not the same thing. They are not even "kinda" the same thing. They both trigger from a spell being cast, but other than that their respective results are completely different. Just stop with this nonsense.
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Old enough to know better, much too young to care.
Yes, they're obviously different, but he's on point - Prowess is the "casting more spells matters" mechanic that the Jeskai imply
No, that's like saying haste and battalion are 'basically the same'
That's not even close to similar. I'm comparing two keywords that focus on playing many spells before going for the "push"
You compared things that...yeah no. No.
My comparison of Prowess to a "friendlier" storm-like mechanic was fine.
And haste and battalion both foster the mentality of mustering groups of creatures to attack with quickly.
You said prowess was basically storm, that's entirely incorrect.
Stop picking at "they're two different mechanics." Obviously they're two different mechanics. I understand that they're two different mechanics. That's why one is Storm and the other is Prowess, but read the description in the OP which I was responding to. Both Storm and Prowess fill a similar "mental image" of the given description.
They're two entirely different mechanics, that you called basically the same.
And stop comparing Haste and Batallion. Haste doesn't have anything to do with mustering groups. At least compare Banding and Battalion. Or Battalion and Soulbond.
You mean they're two different mechanics, whose only similarity is that they have to do with creatures and attacking.
STATISTICS.
All of these "Let's eliminate bad cards" crusades are simply ignorant. And when they start to devolve into "WotC is conspiring to give us crappy cards," they just become embarrassing. MATH is conspiring to give you crappy cards.
You mean they're two different mechanics, whose only similarity is that they have to do with creatures and attacking.
its still way farther apart than storm and prowess.
Prowess is comparable to storm in the fashions of tendrils and grapeshot. you play more spells to increase your damage to win the game. its different from most other storm cards.
But they're very different in their real world application. Storm is clearly a critical mass combo mechanic, whereas prowess is clearly designed as a tempo-aggro mechanic.
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You mean they're two different mechanics, whose only similarity is that they have to do with creatures and attacking.
its still way farther apart than storm and prowess.
Prowess is comparable to storm in the fashions of tendrils and grapeshot. you play more spells to increase your damage to win the game. its different from most other storm cards.
But they're very different in their real world application. Storm is clearly a critical mass combo mechanic, whereas prowess is clearly designed as a tempo-aggro mechanic.
This is getting tedious, but you need to view the context, wherein he did not simply compare them, but conflated them.
STATISTICS.
All of these "Let's eliminate bad cards" crusades are simply ignorant. And when they start to devolve into "WotC is conspiring to give us crappy cards," they just become embarrassing. MATH is conspiring to give you crappy cards.
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This is a martial arts tradition whose adherents are called pearl fighters. They are wanderers who arbitrate conflicts between villagers. Their style involves light-footed combat and a strict code of law. During battle, pearl fighters conjure and manipulate thousands of pearls. Pearl fighters can use these pearls both offensively and defensively. They can send thousands through the air like a wave, or ensnare their enemy in a great cloud. After a great battle between pearl fighters and a band of outlaws, the ground was blanketed with so many pearls that it looked like snow had fallen. Children gathered the incandescent remnants hoping to sell them, but they evaporated hours after the battle.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/planeswalkers-guide-khans-tarkir-part-1-2014-09-03
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he clearly has Reach.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
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Oona, Queen of the Fae
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Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
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WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
To the OP: Storm flies in the face of the NWO, that the complexity of commons must be simple, and since many Storm spells (like Grapeshot) were common/uncommon, MaRo put Storm in the lowest possible ranking to ever be returned in an expansion set.
It's not even for NWO. It's because Storm is simply impossible to balance: it's either completely broken or utter crap. Every time they brought Storm back, it was too strong. So they gave up trying.
Considering the scale for measuring the likeliness of returning mechanics is called the storm scale, with storm being at the high end of never returning, I don't believe you are correct in your prediction.
No, that's like saying haste and battalion are 'basically the same'
That's not even close to similar. I'm comparing two keywords that focus on playing many spells before going for the "push"
You compared things that...yeah no. No.
My comparison of Prowess to a "friendlier" storm-like mechanic was fine.
So many of the "broken cards" are only broken because they allow storm shenanigans.
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And haste and battalion both foster the mentality of mustering groups of creatures to attack with quickly.
You said prowess was basically storm, that's entirely incorrect.
I invision a future where one is not mighty when he can silence a crowd with brutality,
but when he leaves them speechless with wisdom.
No. There are various problems associated with storm, mainly that it is either too good or too bad and requires enablers. Storm is about as likely to return in standard as horsemanship or banding.
Stop picking at "they're two different mechanics." Obviously they're two different mechanics. I understand that they're two different mechanics. That's why one is Storm and the other is Prowess, but read the description in the OP which I was responding to. Both Storm and Prowess fill a similar "mental image" of the given description.
And stop comparing Haste and Batallion. Haste doesn't have anything to do with mustering groups. At least compare Banding and Battalion. Or Battalion and Soulbond.
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WU Brago, King Eternal, Long Live the King
WUBRG Scion of the Ur-Dragon, Worship the Dragon
They're two entirely different mechanics, that you called basically the same.
You mean they're two different mechanics, whose only similarity is that they have to do with creatures and attacking.
its still way farther apart than storm and prowess.
Prowess is comparable to storm in the fashions of tendrils and grapeshot. you play more spells to increase your damage to win the game. its different from most other storm cards.
But they're very different in their real world application. Storm is clearly a critical mass combo mechanic, whereas prowess is clearly designed as a tempo-aggro mechanic.
Nothing
Modern:
Cruel Control, UR Delver, RUG midrange, Akroma's Elfmorial
EDH:
Animar, Chainer, Derevi the Stonehewer Mystic, Nekusar
This is getting tedious, but you need to view the context, wherein he did not simply compare them, but conflated them.