Calling it. I've analyzed the MaRo algorithms, and there was lots of talk on Eldrazi and Zendikar a few months ago, right around when they would have been working on designing the Fall 2015 set. One of the most telling things was that last year, MaRo was ambivalent on the Tribal supertype, saying it was never coming back outside of corner cases like the Eldrazi. And then during the supposed Zendikar planning phase that I suspect was happening, they threw it out the window, as the stance on Tribal now is that it's gone forever. During this time a few months back, MaRo polled people about whether Annihilator should come back too.
So yeah, bookmark this and give me $100 come next May.
Calling it. I've analyzed the MaRo algorithms, and there was lots of talk on Eldrazi and Zendikar a few months ago, right around when they would have been working on designing the Fall 2015 set. One of the most telling things was that last year, MaRo was ambivalent on the Tribal supertype, saying it was never coming back outside of corner cases like the Eldrazi. And then during the supposed Zendikar planning phase that I suspect was happening, they threw it out the window, as the stance on Tribal now is that it's gone forever. During this time a few months back, MaRo polled people about whether Annihilator should come back too.
So yeah, bookmark this and give me $100 come next May.
Well, does it mean that if you are wrong, you'll send anyone who says you are wrong a $100?
As for the speculation, I think it is way too early to return to Zendikar. Maro could be talking about including annihilator or the Eldrazi in a Modern Masters set or Conspiracy 2 or a new product. It took 7 years to Return to Ravnica. I will admit that, in your favor, Wizards might want to reprint the fetch lands sooner than 7 years, and the easiest way to do that is to Return to Zendikar.
The fetch lands, like the shock lands, aren't tied to any one plane. A hallowed fountain could be on Dominaria, Innistrad, Alara, or anywhere else you want to put it, same with a misty rainforest. I also expect the fetches to be reprinted next Fall, but the plane of Zendikar is dead by this point.
The fetch lands, like the shock lands, aren't tied to any one plane. A hallowed fountain could be on Dominaria, Innistrad, Alara, or anywhere else you want to put it, same with a misty rainforest. I also expect the fetches to be reprinted next Fall, but the plane of Zendikar is dead by this point.
Except that they did go back to Ravnica to reprint shock lands....
The fetch lands, like the shock lands, aren't tied to any one plane. A hallowed fountain could be on Dominaria, Innistrad, Alara, or anywhere else you want to put it, same with a misty rainforest. I also expect the fetches to be reprinted next Fall, but the plane of Zendikar is dead by this point.
Except that they did go back to Ravnica to reprint shock lands....
That was more an intersection of repeats. People wanted a return to Ravnica and people wanted shocklands reprinted. It made sense to do them together.
The same applies to Zendikar and Fetchlands, of course, but this does not mean the chances are 100%.
Calling it. I've analyzed the MaRo algorithms, and there was lots of talk on Eldrazi and Zendikar a few months ago, right around when they would have been working on designing the Fall 2015 set. One of the most telling things was that last year, MaRo was ambivalent on the Tribal supertype, saying it was never coming back outside of corner cases like the Eldrazi. And then during the supposed Zendikar planning phase that I suspect was happening, they threw it out the window, as the stance on Tribal now is that it's gone forever. During this time a few months back, MaRo polled people about whether Annihilator should come back too.
So yeah, bookmark this and give me $100 come next May.
A return to Alara will likely happen before Zendikar as it was also a very popular setting.
The fetch lands, like the shock lands, aren't tied to any one plane. A hallowed fountain could be on Dominaria, Innistrad, Alara, or anywhere else you want to put it, same with a misty rainforest. I also expect the fetches to be reprinted next Fall, but the plane of Zendikar is dead by this point.
Except that they did go back to Ravnica to reprint shock lands....
A coincidence is not the same as a correlation. They can reprint the shocklands wherever and whenever they please, that was the whole point of them having setting neutral names. Something land cycles since have (mostly) continued. It is the same with the Fetchlands, they have setting neutral names, and as such can be reprinted *anywhere*, for all we know they could be in Huey.
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A return to Alara will likely happen before Zendikar as it was also a very popular setting.
You think this because original Alara came before original Zendikar and you believe that the returns need to follow the same order, correct? But there's another complication, return to Alara cannot be Blood because that would be too soon after RtR for another multicolour block (just as original Alara was too soon after Ravnica). Zendikar could return in Blood (which is not the same as it being 100% confirmed) and I think it's silly to claim that they will withhold it purely for the sake of doing returns in the same order as the originals.
Thought: if "Fetchlandia: The Plane Of Dual Fetchlands Printed At Common" was produced by Wizards, exactly how much of the pressure to revisit Zendikar would fade?
Not that I don't love the thought of revisiting Zendikar, but perhaps more as a prequel than three desolate sequels of an Eldrazi-ravaged plane.
Thought: if "Return to Fetchlandia: The Plane Of Dual Fetchlands Printed At Common" was produced by Wizards, exactly how much of the pressure to revisit Zendikar would fade?
Not that I don't love the thought of revisiting Zendikar, but perhaps more as a prequel than three desolate sequels of an Eldrazi-ravaged plane.
I don't believe Zendikar love is related to the fetchlands. If people didn't like the setting then they'd be asking for the fetchlands to be reprinted elsewhere. But it's a good setting, and has a number of story threads that were left hanging after Eldrazi, so people want to return there. If we get much needed reprints in the process, all the better.
To be fair, they have been slowly building up a return to Zendikar over the last few blocks.
See, this is the kind of baseless speculation that I'm talking about.
You guys WANT to believe we are returning to Zendikar, so you say it about everything.
You know you could probably find a "next block is Zendikar" thread for EVERY block we've had since Mirrodin?
Please, let it go until we have some real evidence.
Its not baseless speculation. Rather its Fall 2015 or a later block, Wizards has dropped hints that we're returning to the Eldrazi storyline. Just off the top of my head we've seen two different planeswalkers in the last two sets who were gearing up for another fight at the eldrazi.
-Gideon's reason for being in the Return to Ravnica block was to recruit planeswalkers to help him fight the Eldrazi.
-Kiora was on Theros looking for power and/or people to help fight the eldrazi.
The fetch lands, like the shock lands, aren't tied to any one plane. A hallowed fountain could be on Dominaria, Innistrad, Alara, or anywhere else you want to put it, same with a misty rainforest. I also expect the fetches to be reprinted next Fall, but the plane of Zendikar is dead by this point.
Except that they did go back to Ravnica to reprint shock lands....
Fetchlands aren't necessarily linked to Zendikar. Wizards only does 10 card dual land cycles now and the allied fetchlands are tied to Dominaria. However, if Zendikar came back, the fetchlands almost certainly would too. I just think that they can come back separately from a Return to Zendikar.
Aaron Forsythe said that there were no plans to reprint the fetchlands at the present moment. Since I believe that the fetchlands would come back with Return to Zendikar and Blood/Sweat/Tears is currently in devign, Return to Zendikar cannot be happening yet.
MaRo's pretty much stated that we're not going back to Alara, since it wasn't super popular and there's not much of a point now that the Shards are merged. He's also confirmed that Mirrodin part 3 and Dominaria are happening eventually, but hasn't shown any signs of either happening soon. It took forever to return to Mirrodin/Ravnica because they were both made at the beginning of an era where they wanted to do as many new Planes as possible, and Scars was definitely an experimental thing. Now that they know that Return Blocks are great for $$$, they're obviously much more willing to do them in shorter gaps, along with having cliffhangers like Zendikar because they know they're going to return to them eventually.
Calling it. I've analyzed the MaRo algorithms, and there was lots of talk on Eldrazi and Zendikar a few months ago, right around when they would have been working on designing the Fall 2015 set. One of the most telling things was that last year, MaRo was ambivalent on the Tribal supertype, saying it was never coming back outside of corner cases like the Eldrazi. And then during the supposed Zendikar planning phase that I suspect was happening, they threw it out the window, as the stance on Tribal now is that it's gone forever. During this time a few months back, MaRo polled people about whether Annihilator should come back too.
So yeah, bookmark this and give me $100 come next May.
If every year someone says that the next block will be Zendikar, someone is bound to be correct someday.
But that doesn't mean your speculation is founded.
There simply is not enough evidence that 2015 will be Zendikar (or otherwise).
Sure, there are hints that we will return someday but that is pretty much of a given because of the way the block ended.
I don't know I would say 100% surety for Fall 2015 but I wouldn't rule it out. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised. But I WOULD put 100% for a 2016 return Zendikar or Eldrazi on another plane. It is the largest dangling thread throughout the past few blocks and the upcoming Tarkir block via Sarkhan Vol (he has a piece of a hedron on his staff in the released artwork). We know about Sorin and Gideon, Nissa is possibly due for M15 and in addition, Kiora took an enormous city-dwarfing kraken(?) from Theros (or was attempting to) for what purposes, do you suppose? Zendikar baby. You can take my ticket for this crazy train.
A return to Alara will likely happen before Zendikar as it was also a very popular setting.
You think this because original Alara came before original Zendikar and you believe that the returns need to follow the same order, correct? But there's another complication, return to Alara cannot be Blood because that would be too soon after RtR for another multicolour block (just as original Alara was too soon after Ravnica). Zendikar could return in Blood (which is not the same as it being 100% confirmed) and I think it's silly to claim that they will withhold it purely for the sake of doing returns in the same order as the originals.
No, I am saying a revisit to another plane is just as likely to happen next as a return to Zendikar. It could end up being Zendikar, or it could be Alara, or it could be Dominaria, as they are all very popular settings.
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So yeah, bookmark this and give me $100 come next May.
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Well, does it mean that if you are wrong, you'll send anyone who says you are wrong a $100?
As for the speculation, I think it is way too early to return to Zendikar. Maro could be talking about including annihilator or the Eldrazi in a Modern Masters set or Conspiracy 2 or a new product. It took 7 years to Return to Ravnica. I will admit that, in your favor, Wizards might want to reprint the fetch lands sooner than 7 years, and the easiest way to do that is to Return to Zendikar.
I'll remind you in a year.
"Hey guys! did you see that "July" has 'ul' in it!? That's so similar to ULamog! Zendikar coming next plane CONFIRMED!"
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See, this is the kind of baseless speculation that I'm talking about.
You guys WANT to believe we are returning to Zendikar, so you say it about everything.
You know you could probably find a "next block is Zendikar" thread for EVERY block we've had since Mirrodin?
Please, let it go until we have some real evidence.
Except that they did go back to Ravnica to reprint shock lands....
That was more an intersection of repeats. People wanted a return to Ravnica and people wanted shocklands reprinted. It made sense to do them together.
The same applies to Zendikar and Fetchlands, of course, but this does not mean the chances are 100%.
A return to Alara will likely happen before Zendikar as it was also a very popular setting.
A coincidence is not the same as a correlation. They can reprint the shocklands wherever and whenever they please, that was the whole point of them having setting neutral names. Something land cycles since have (mostly) continued. It is the same with the Fetchlands, they have setting neutral names, and as such can be reprinted *anywhere*, for all we know they could be in Huey.
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You think this because original Alara came before original Zendikar and you believe that the returns need to follow the same order, correct? But there's another complication, return to Alara cannot be Blood because that would be too soon after RtR for another multicolour block (just as original Alara was too soon after Ravnica). Zendikar could return in Blood (which is not the same as it being 100% confirmed) and I think it's silly to claim that they will withhold it purely for the sake of doing returns in the same order as the originals.
Not that I don't love the thought of revisiting Zendikar, but perhaps more as a prequel than three desolate sequels of an Eldrazi-ravaged plane.
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I don't believe Zendikar love is related to the fetchlands. If people didn't like the setting then they'd be asking for the fetchlands to be reprinted elsewhere. But it's a good setting, and has a number of story threads that were left hanging after Eldrazi, so people want to return there. If we get much needed reprints in the process, all the better.
Its not baseless speculation. Rather its Fall 2015 or a later block, Wizards has dropped hints that we're returning to the Eldrazi storyline. Just off the top of my head we've seen two different planeswalkers in the last two sets who were gearing up for another fight at the eldrazi.
-Gideon's reason for being in the Return to Ravnica block was to recruit planeswalkers to help him fight the Eldrazi.
-Kiora was on Theros looking for power and/or people to help fight the eldrazi.
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Fetchlands aren't necessarily linked to Zendikar. Wizards only does 10 card dual land cycles now and the allied fetchlands are tied to Dominaria. However, if Zendikar came back, the fetchlands almost certainly would too. I just think that they can come back separately from a Return to Zendikar.
Aaron Forsythe said that there were no plans to reprint the fetchlands at the present moment. Since I believe that the fetchlands would come back with Return to Zendikar and Blood/Sweat/Tears is currently in devign, Return to Zendikar cannot be happening yet.
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well he gave us 3 playset names
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/85368902093/can-you-tell-us-the-playtest-names-of-any-cards-you-are#notes
and those i can say are titans of comedy....
one is fat, other is smart, and the other has a nice hair...
The Three Stooges
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But that doesn't mean your speculation is founded.
There simply is not enough evidence that 2015 will be Zendikar (or otherwise).
Sure, there are hints that we will return someday but that is pretty much of a given because of the way the block ended.
No, I am saying a revisit to another plane is just as likely to happen next as a return to Zendikar. It could end up being Zendikar, or it could be Alara, or it could be Dominaria, as they are all very popular settings.
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