We have a thread speculating on the "something they've never done before" bit that MaRo mentioned during the Pro Tour yesterday, and the other thing he mentioned was that they'll be bringing back something old - and something players have been wanting for a long time.
Things that most players seem to want back after quite an absence:
- Snow
- Fetchlands (not really that long of an absence, though)
- Could also be some characters we've wanted back?
What do you guys think it'll be? I'd love Snow, complete with Snow-covered lands and Scrying Sheets. Scry, scry for everyone!
It could also be a popular mechanic. However, that doesn't seem likely considering bringing back an old mechanic is not that exciting and MaRo looks very excited. I think snow is possible as the the graphic they showed us looks like it definitely could be in a snow setting considering the Mongolian/Nomadic warlord feel. The Fetchlands would be good simply to make them more widely available. Would Fetchlands make the set more exciting though? Not so sure on that. I reckon it will be something fun to play. I'll go with snow as well!
The first thing that came to my mind was Counterspell
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Out of the blackness and stench of the engulfing swamp emerged a shimmering figure. Only the splattered armor and ichor-stained sword hinted at the unfathomable evil the knight had just laid waste.
Multicolored Dragon cycle akin to the Primevals would be my guess for something old that will probably be returning this block given the "Dragons of Tarkir" name. We might have more returning stuff, though.
That picture did have dudes in there that COULD be orcs... this could very well be it. I wouldn't mind a few clans of orcs bring a new level of savage to the table, but unlike Minotaurs still have a level of honor.
Keep in mind that it's something that the players have been asking for... At least according to MaRo.
This leads me to believe it's not a matter of flavor, but rather gameplay. So specific races and snow permanents, while flavorful, don't really fit that bill by themselves.
Maybe it could involve the Warchief cycle from Scourge, or the Familiars from Planeshift, with the other wedge 5? For some reason I keep going back to Invasion block, it's the oldest block I know that had a dragon cycle.
Otherwise, Gating permanents? Shard lands and their wedge counterparts? The Apocalypse Volvers? The Free spell mechanic from Nemesis? I wouldn't count out the Enchant World mechanic either; now that the Legend Rule works differently there is a lot of design space there. Speaking of which, is anybody up to date on the recent mechanic changes they've done on old cards? There might be some hints there.
Deep down inside though... I just want the 10 fetchlands to come back in the same set -.-
Do we know the names of the other sets in the block yet or do we just know that it's Large-Small-Large? If they haven't announced the other set names yet, Warlords of Khanar could be one of them, which would make the returning thing that people have been requesting a lot visiting multiple planes in one block.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
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They will never reprint Counterspell. New players absolutely hate getting their spells countered, so you can bet all counters from now on will be lackluster like it's been the case for the past years. Even Remand is too good now. Also they don't want a UU hard counter in Modern.
Squirrels. Definitely squirrels. How do you think all the dragons died?
I hate squirrels
i think fetchlands are out, every new world seems to have their own unique lands so i doubt they would do that without a really good reason (and Sarkahn returning from zendikar hardly seems like a big enough connection to affect the entire landscape of a plane that did exist before his trip to zenidkar anyways). i'm really hoping this is the wedge block, lands will be 3-color wedge lands if that is the case.
Maybe that's the old thing coming back? tri-color land? i don't know that people have really been asking for it though. Counterspell seems too narrow to be the one big thing that MaRo said would be coming back and even if it is, I don't think he would have given it THAT much hype.
Orcs could be it, but maybe it's even broader and just "tribal" coming back. Maybe not using the term but having 5 new tribes that have synergy with eachother like the days of lorwyn/shadowmoor.
MaRo sai the thing they are bringing back hash;t been done in a long time. fetches are too recent (unless they reprint onslaught ones).
my money is on snow lands, tho Orcs would be awesome
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Things that most players seem to want back after quite an absence:
- Snow
- Fetchlands (not really that long of an absence, though)
- Could also be some characters we've wanted back?
What do you guys think it'll be? I'd love Snow, complete with Snow-covered lands and Scrying Sheets. Scry, scry for everyone!
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Another thing just crossed my mind: Dwarves.
Modified version of flanking?
Bushido with new name?
Some old creature types like orcs and dwarves?
I am going to pick something left field... Horsemanship! hahaha it would be pretty funny to bring it back.
I am pretty sure there wont be fetchlands as much as I want them.
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This leads me to believe it's not a matter of flavor, but rather gameplay. So specific races and snow permanents, while flavorful, don't really fit that bill by themselves.
Maybe it could involve the Warchief cycle from Scourge, or the Familiars from Planeshift, with the other wedge 5? For some reason I keep going back to Invasion block, it's the oldest block I know that had a dragon cycle.
Otherwise, Gating permanents? Shard lands and their wedge counterparts? The Apocalypse Volvers? The Free spell mechanic from Nemesis? I wouldn't count out the Enchant World mechanic either; now that the Legend Rule works differently there is a lot of design space there. Speaking of which, is anybody up to date on the recent mechanic changes they've done on old cards? There might be some hints there.
Deep down inside though... I just want the 10 fetchlands to come back in the same set -.-
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This facebook page.. who's name and art you might know... says something about new lands and spilling beans too early.
https://www.facebook.com/TheArtOfTereseNielsen
Seems possible.
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This is probably the best answer I could ever imagine.
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Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
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WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
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That was the first thing that I thought about too.
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I'm really interested to see what the Blue and white share of the world would be cause everything we've seen so far seems very jundy.
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i think fetchlands are out, every new world seems to have their own unique lands so i doubt they would do that without a really good reason (and Sarkahn returning from zendikar hardly seems like a big enough connection to affect the entire landscape of a plane that did exist before his trip to zenidkar anyways). i'm really hoping this is the wedge block, lands will be 3-color wedge lands if that is the case.
Maybe that's the old thing coming back? tri-color land? i don't know that people have really been asking for it though. Counterspell seems too narrow to be the one big thing that MaRo said would be coming back and even if it is, I don't think he would have given it THAT much hype.
Orcs could be it, but maybe it's even broader and just "tribal" coming back. Maybe not using the term but having 5 new tribes that have synergy with eachother like the days of lorwyn/shadowmoor.
my money is on snow lands, tho Orcs would be awesome
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