Not sure how much people care, but one thing I haven't seen discussed is the possibility of full art lands seeing a return in theros.
Ravnica had shocks. Huey seems likely to have fetches (altho m15 might have them). For a way to boost general apparent value in Theros and as a way to hedge their bets, full art lands in Theros seems like a fun possibility.
Not sure how much people care, but if they are going to pull them out again.. it seems like it'd be for the either the set this fall or not for 2 more years.
Not sure how much people care, but one thing I haven't seen discussed is the possibility of full art lands seeing a return in theros.
Not among people who think these things through. Seriously this along with the next ten counterspell will be in Theros because I really want them to reprint counterspell threads represent a profound argument for eugenics.
Ravnica had shocks. Huey seems likely to have fetches (altho m15 might have them). For a way to boost general apparent value in Theros and as a way to hedge their bets, full art lands in Theros seems like a fun possibility.
THERE WILL NOT BE A STANDARD WITH SHOCKS AND FETCHES!!!
Zendikar had full art lands because it was a LANDS SET kind of like how Mirrodin was the artifact set. It is far to soon for another lands set.
Not sure how much people care, but if they are going to pull them out again.. it seems like it'd be for the either the set this fall or not for 2 more years.
What is this assessment based on, seriously WTF? Fall to not for two more years WTF?
makes more sense to me to have them in m14 as it's the anniversary set
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Not among people who think these things through. Seriously this along with the next ten counterspell will be in Theros because I really want them to reprint counterspell threads represent a profound argument for eugenics.
THERE WILL NOT BE A STANDARD WITH SHOCKS AND FETCHES!!!
Zendikar had full art lands because it was a LANDS SET kind of like how Mirrodin was the artifact set. It is far to soon for another lands set.
What is this assessment based on, seriously WTF? Fall to not for two more years WTF?
Unglued had full-art lands because they wanted something in the booster pack that you could actually use in tournament play. Unhinged had them because Unglued started the tradition. Zendikar used them because it was the land block and they wanted to do something special with the lands. There is no reason to believe Theros is the time when full-art lands will make their return, so this really belongs in Baseless Speculation.
I have a pet theory that huey is a return to zendikar of sorts, with fetches and fullart lands.
Or, to put it correctly:
1. Zendikar, according to Maro, was well received, so one day we'll return there.
2. Fetches and fullarts and landfall are signature features to Zendikar, so we'll likely get them we'll return to Zendikar.
3. For the next plane we'll return to, Zendikar sounds very likely. Innistrad, Ravnica and, possibly, Mirrodin are too recent, Alara is out because it's multicolor and we just had one, Lorwyn and Kamigawa are, according to Maro, unpopular, and Dominaria, according to same Mr. Rosewater, is unlikely to near future.
For now it looks like selling point of Theros would be [mild] legendary theme and Greek mythology.
In my opinion, with the legendary rules change, I expect Theros to be a legends matter set. There is no other reason i can think of to make such a big change to the legend rule.
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In my opinion, with the legendary rules change, I expect Theros to be a legends matter set. There is no other reason i can think of to make such a big change to the legend rule.
Other than simply making the rule functionally better?
We're not going back to Zendikar anytime soon. Returning to Mirrodin and then Ravnica seems to have a lot of people spoiled and thinking that we're returning to old planes every-other set.
As for the lands - anything is possible but seeing as Theros doesn't seem land-based like Zendikar was, I doubt it.
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The short answer is no, the long answer is **** no. We'll get full art lands in Return to Zendikar, but they're not something that R&D wants to use at random. Nothing about Theros suggests that full art lands would be appropriate to the setting.
Huey seems likely to have fetches (altho m15 might have them).
Based on what?
but if they are going to pull them out again.. it seems like it'd be for the either the set this fall or not for 2 more years.
Again, based on what?
Ravnica had way more reason to use full-art lands than most any setting. The city art landscapes are some of the most popular basic land art around.
They don't just hand out full-art lands for no reason.
In Zendikar, they did it to emphasize land matters.
Realistically, the most likely we are to see full art basics again is when land-matters is a major theme again.
Full art lands:
Unglued '98
Unhinged '04
Zendikar '09
So there's at least 5-6 years between uses of full-art lands. And MaRo has been explicit on his Tumblr that while they are fan favourites, its a well they know better than to go back to too often.
As for returns:
Mirrodin to Scars of Mirrodin - '03 & '10 - 7 Years
Ravnica to Return to Ravnica - '05 & '12 - 7 Years
Also of note is that MaRo has a 7 year plan for his sets, so at best, Return to the Scars of New Zendiphyrexikar Besieged will be in 2016.
By that calculation, Huey, Dewey, Louie should be returning to Lorwyn
I would agree if MaRo hadn't said Lorwyn didn't get received as well as they would have liked. Shadowmoor got better reviews and results from market research.
Since I've used this forum, this thread has popped up every set. It's boring, and downright baseless. Until modern masters it was accompanied by the "goyf goyf?" "Goyf reprint inc" "pliss goyf nao? It only makes sense" threads.
As of what we know now, the Mythos and legendary things a the only speculations that have any base, and the legendary theme is iffy at best. Just wait and see guys, I know it's fun to wish and hope for stuff, but posting it on here is a different story and it clogs sub forums.
Since I've used this forum, this thread has popped up every set. It's boring, and downright baseless. Until modern masters it was accompanied by the "goyf goyf?" "Goyf reprint inc" "pliss goyf nao? It only makes sense" threads.
As of what we know now, the Mythos and legendary things a the only speculations that have any base, and the legendary theme is iffy at best. Just wait and see guys, I know it's fun to wish and hope for stuff, but posting it on here is a different story and it clogs sub forums.
The Legendary Theme is a great deduction at best. Greek mythology has Legendary Heroes, Legendary Monsters, and Legendary Gods. Also, a Tribal theme wouldn't be too baseless since Mutavault is being reprinted in m14.
Full art lands:
Unglued '98
Unhinged '04
Zendikar '09
So there's at least 5-6 years between uses of full-art lands. And MaRo has been explicit on his Tumblr that while they are fan favourites, its a well they know better than to go back to too often.
As for returns:
Mirrodin to Scars of Mirrodin - '03 & '10 - 7 Years
Ravnica to Return to Ravnica - '05 & '12 - 7 Years
Also of note is that MaRo has a 7 year plan for his sets, so at best, Return to the Scars of New Zendiphyrexikar Besieged will be in 2016.
Unglued to Unhinged: 6 years (98-04)
Unhinged to Zendikar: 5 years (04-09)
Zendikar to Huey: 4 years (09-13)
I don't know....
Also: who said they have designs 7 years in advance? The farthest in advance I've heard of is the FFL, which is 2 years in advance....
Also, if you look at it, we've had a 'scars of' block every two years, and Alara was kind of similar in a way to Invasion. Innistrad brought back Flashback, from Oddysee block, a favorite block of a lot of older players, a block with a definite horror sub-theme that centered around graveyard recursion.
I think we'll be seeing scars of zendikar sooner rather than later.
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Ravnica had shocks. Huey seems likely to have fetches (altho m15 might have them). For a way to boost general apparent value in Theros and as a way to hedge their bets, full art lands in Theros seems like a fun possibility.
Not sure how much people care, but if they are going to pull them out again.. it seems like it'd be for the either the set this fall or not for 2 more years.
Not among people who think these things through. Seriously this along with the next ten counterspell will be in Theros because I really want them to reprint counterspell threads represent a profound argument for eugenics.
THERE WILL NOT BE A STANDARD WITH SHOCKS AND FETCHES!!!
Zendikar had full art lands because it was a LANDS SET kind of like how Mirrodin was the artifact set. It is far to soon for another lands set.
What is this assessment based on, seriously WTF? Fall to not for two more years WTF?
What in the world does this comment have to do with anything? I said Huey, and Ravnica rotates when Huey comes in.
Unglued was a lands set?
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Anyway, it's a possibility I'd very much welcome.
Or, to put it correctly:
1. Zendikar, according to Maro, was well received, so one day we'll return there.
2. Fetches and fullarts and landfall are signature features to Zendikar, so we'll likely get them we'll return to Zendikar.
3. For the next plane we'll return to, Zendikar sounds very likely. Innistrad, Ravnica and, possibly, Mirrodin are too recent, Alara is out because it's multicolor and we just had one, Lorwyn and Kamigawa are, according to Maro, unpopular, and Dominaria, according to same Mr. Rosewater, is unlikely to near future.
For now it looks like selling point of Theros would be [mild] legendary theme and Greek mythology.
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Other than simply making the rule functionally better?
We're not going back to Zendikar anytime soon. Returning to Mirrodin and then Ravnica seems to have a lot of people spoiled and thinking that we're returning to old planes every-other set.
As for the lands - anything is possible but seeing as Theros doesn't seem land-based like Zendikar was, I doubt it.
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Like it or not, Scars and RtR were runaway successes. I can almost guarantee that we'll go back to Zendikar in a couple years.
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Based on what?
Again, based on what?
Ravnica had way more reason to use full-art lands than most any setting. The city art landscapes are some of the most popular basic land art around.
They don't just hand out full-art lands for no reason.
In Zendikar, they did it to emphasize land matters.
Realistically, the most likely we are to see full art basics again is when land-matters is a major theme again.
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Unglued '98
Unhinged '04
Zendikar '09
So there's at least 5-6 years between uses of full-art lands. And MaRo has been explicit on his Tumblr that while they are fan favourites, its a well they know better than to go back to too often.
As for returns:
Mirrodin to Scars of Mirrodin - '03 & '10 - 7 Years
Ravnica to Return to Ravnica - '05 & '12 - 7 Years
Also of note is that MaRo has a 7 year plan for his sets, so at best, Return to the Scars of New Zendiphyrexikar Besieged will be in 2016.
By that calculation, Huey, Dewey, Louie should be returning to Lorwyn
I would agree if MaRo hadn't said Lorwyn didn't get received as well as they would have liked. Shadowmoor got better reviews and results from market research.
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As of what we know now, the Mythos and legendary things a the only speculations that have any base, and the legendary theme is iffy at best. Just wait and see guys, I know it's fun to wish and hope for stuff, but posting it on here is a different story and it clogs sub forums.
As prompted by certain threads on the forums, I'm now certain that the planeswalkers in DGM will be.... Ral Zarek, Morsel of the Firemind.
The Legendary Theme is a great deduction at best. Greek mythology has Legendary Heroes, Legendary Monsters, and Legendary Gods. Also, a Tribal theme wouldn't be too baseless since Mutavault is being reprinted in m14.
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Unglued to Unhinged: 6 years (98-04)
Unhinged to Zendikar: 5 years (04-09)
Zendikar to Huey: 4 years (09-13)
I don't know....
Also: who said they have designs 7 years in advance? The farthest in advance I've heard of is the FFL, which is 2 years in advance....
Also, if you look at it, we've had a 'scars of' block every two years, and Alara was kind of similar in a way to Invasion. Innistrad brought back Flashback, from Oddysee block, a favorite block of a lot of older players, a block with a definite horror sub-theme that centered around graveyard recursion.
I think we'll be seeing scars of zendikar sooner rather than later.