Holiday Spoilers Are Not Prerelease Promos

  • #1
    I figured this was worthy information to post, considering everyone has thought that the five Holiday Spoilers were going to be the five Guild promos, but it turns out, they are not. If you look at the link here:

    http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/products.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/products/gatecrash

    You can see easily that all of the cards mentioned for the Prerelease are going to be creatures. You can easily see the power and toughness boxes. My speculation on the actual cards is this.

    Ozhov - Still looks like Treasury Thrull to me.
    Dimir - Looks like a giant centipede, but we can't tell really.
    Gruul - Looks like Rubblehulk.
    Boros - Definitely a Flamekin, but as for the actual card, I can't tell.
    Simic - Assuming it's Fathom Mage.

    Well, I figured it was worth posting, so go ahead and discuss!
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  • #2
    "Holiday Spoilers Are Not Prerelease Promos"

    Actually, they are. Just not all of them.

    Orzhov gets alt-art Treasury Thrull, Gruul gets alt-art Rubblehulk, Simic gets alt-art Fathom Mage.
  • #3
    http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=474290

    Already a discussion about this.

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  • #4
    2 things are for sure,
    Dimir and Boros one is absolutely not the Holiday Spoiler
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  • #5
    The Fathom Mage alt-art looks awesome already! And the Boros thing looks kinda G.O.R.T-is.

    EDIT:

    Upscaled and sharpened the image:

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  • #6
    Quote from CommanderZ
    The Fathom Mage alt-art looks awesome already! And the Boros thing looks kinda G.O.R.T-is.

    EDIT:

    Upscaled and sharpened the image:



    Awesome!

    Clearly the Boros and the Dimir ones are different. It was pretty obvious that the last week ones weren't going to be the prerelease promos.
  • #7
    Quote from CommanderZ
    The Fathom Mage alt-art looks awesome already! And the Boros thing looks kinda G.O.R.T-is.

    EDIT:

    Upscaled and sharpened the image:



    Looks like the Dimir creature has two abilities, and the Boros creature has 3 or more. The last two abilities on him look like:

    "(Cost) gains (ability) until the end of the turn."

    Also, judging by the similarities in costs, it looks like the Boros card's Cmc is 6, and the Dimir one could maybe be 5? It's toughness looks like 7, but it's so hard to tell.
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  • #8
    I just hope Boros has something awesome, definitely want to play as that guild at prerelease!


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  • #9
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    I just hope Boros has something awesome, definitely want to play as that guild at prerelease!


    It looks like a Flamekin! Flamekin Zealot style.
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  • #10
    My guess is that the boros card gets firebreathing and first strike as activated abilities for R or W.
  • #11
    Firemane Angel would have been a sick prerelease promo, but alas.

    I still don't think Fathom Mage is sufficiently Timmy enough to be a promo, but I'm willing to be proven wrong.
  • #12
    The Boros one can still be the Firemane Avenger, because the part of the art that is shown can be the enemy which gets hit by the helix (sure looks like that anyway).
    I think only the Dimir is different as they wanted a creature as the Prerelease promo, and creatures don't get the Cipher keyword... (and they wanted to show all the guild keywords last week).
  • #13
    I wonder if this might be a better image capture / upscale than the one that is already in the thread. (See attachment)
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  • #14
    Quote from Soulflame
    The Boros one can still be the Firemane Avenger, because the part of the art that is shown can be the enemy which gets hit by the helix (sure looks like that anyway).
    I think only the Dimir is different as they wanted a creature as the Prerelease promo, and creatures don't get the Cipher keyword... (and they wanted to show all the guild keywords last week).


    It is guaranteed that the Boros prelease promo is 100% not Firemane Avenger. You only need to compare the name and type line of both cards.
  • #15
    Quote from Drifting Skies
    I wonder if this might be a better image capture / upscale than the one that is already in the thread. (See attachment)

    i see the boros one as a 6CMCand 2 AA thats ends at the end of turn
    and the dimir one looks like 5CMC with 2 A one of that with a mana symbol(dont can say for sure but i see a3
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  • #16
    The creature on the Dimir one looks a little like the Call of the Nightwing card's art. Were I a betting man, I'd bet on it being a large flying Horror creature which can interact in some way with the 1/1 horror tokens.
  • #17
    I'm fairly confident from that picture that the Orzhov prerelease promo is in fact the Treasury Thrull that we've already seen; it seems to me to be a Creature - Thrull, at the very least, with Extort and an ability that starts with "Whenever [...] Thrull ..."
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  • #18
    Dimir looks like a "Spider" with a 7 thoughness.

    Hopefully has something that ciphers all your spells on it, that would be crazy cool.
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    Quote from TheOnlyOne652089
    Dimir looks like a "Spider" with a 7 thoughness.

    Hopefully has something that ciphers all your spells on it, that would be crazy cool.


    Cipher Unsummon onto it? Murder? That card would be insane!
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  • #20
    Quote from TheOnlyOne652089
    Dimir looks like a "Spider" with a 7 thoughness.

    Hopefully has something that ciphers all your spells on it, that would be crazy cool.

    whenever you cast a instant or sorcery spell you may pay U\B or 3 if you do that spell gains cipher
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  • #23
    Quote from leslak
    whenever you cast a instant or sorcery spell you may pay U\B or 3 if you do that spell gains cipher


    I would play mana ramp 5 color good spells if that's the case.
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  • #24
    Quote from TheOnlyOne652089
    Dimir looks like a "Spider" with a 7 thoughness.

    Hopefully has something that ciphers all your spells on it, that would be crazy cool.


    Really? Looks like a spider does it? Cause I totally see a horror that resembles the Dimir crest.

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  • #25
    Quote from Master Moja
    Cipher Unsummon onto it? Murder? That card would be insane!


    I would think such a card, if printed, would warrant Mythic rarity.

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  • #26
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    I would think such a card, if printed, would warrant Mythic rarity.


    Mistblade Shinobi Not sure that's entirely accurate
  • #27
    Quote from Gdrake
    Mistblade Shinobi Not sure that's entirely accurate


    I believe he meant a creature that either gave all your instants and/or sorceries Cypher, or a creature that let you Cypher any instant and/or sorcery onto it.
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