Theros

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    WoTC recently registered 4 trademarks for "Theros", in these 4 categories:


    IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Interactive entertainment software, namely, video game programs; video game cartridges; multimedia computer game programs, computer game software, computer game cartridges, computer game discs, interactive video games of virtual reality comprised of computer hardware and software; downloadable software for use in playing computer games; computer game software for use with communication devices and mobile telephones; computer and video game apparatus, namely, video game machines for use with televisions; pre-recorded audio and video tapes featuring music; laser discs, video discs, phonograph records, compact discs, and pre-recorded cd-roms, all featuring games, films, and music

    IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment services, namely, providing online computer games and interactive multiplayer online computer games via a global network; organizing and conducting online computer game tournaments and exhibitions in the field of games; providing industry information online via a global network, namely, online publications in the nature of articles and magazines on games and gaming; production and distribution of motion pictures and an ongoing television game show

    IC 028. US 022 023 038 050. G & S: Toys, games, and playthings, namely board games, card games, trading card games, playing cards, parlor games, fantasy role-playing games, miniature toy figurines used in role-playing game scenarios, jigsaw puzzles, toy action figures and accessories for use therewith

    IC 016. US 002 005 022 023 029 037 038 050. G & S: Paper goods and printed matter, namely, comic books; picture books; interactive mystery story books; coloring books; fantasy adventure story books; books containing puzzles and games; printed instructional manuals, booklets and strategy guides for games; printed instructional manuals, booklets and strategy guides containing role-playing game scenarios; trading cards; posters; series of fiction books in the field of entertainment and science fiction; magazines dealing with role-playing adventure games; fantasy art posters; fantasy adventure novels and books


    These are the same categories as the 4 "Izzet vs. Golgari" marks. Any one have an idea what these could be for?
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  • #3
    Quote from 1Drop
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    Trademarks are publicly searchable on the USPTO's website. We've gotten some set/PW name information this way in the past.

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  • #4
    Well I'm afraid I'm not able to navigate the website well enough or get the right hits in the search bar. I'd imagine Theros would be for "Friends" or "Blood"

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  • #5
    Hm, if Innistrad was trademarked on December 13, 2010, then "Theros" would have to be directly after RtR.
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  • #6
    As I keep searching, Fnord is right about the Izzet vs. Golgari connection. I can't find similar levels of trademark for sets or planeswalkers.

    EDIT: NVM, there are similar trademarks for Chandra Nalaar but most of them are dead.
  • #7
    Ok, let's poke it

    In Greek mythology, the name Thero (Θηρώ "feral, beastly") may refer to:

    A reputed nurse of Ares. Local inhabitants of Therapne in Sparta believed that Theriates, a surname of Ares, had been derived from her name. Pausanias remarks that outside Therapne, Thero was completely unknown to the Greeks, and supposes that this mythological figure could have been of Colchian origin, considering the fact that the statue of Ares Theriates was believed to have been brought from Colchis by the Dioscuri.

    Daughter of Phylas and Leipephilene, and sister of Hippotes. By Apollo she became mother of Chaeron, eponym of Chaeronea.

    A follower of Artemis.


    Let's ride with "Nurse of Ares"

    THERO was the Naiad Nymph of the spring, well or fountain of the town of Therapne in Lakedaimonia (Laconia) (southern Greece). She was the nurse of the god Ares.

    Her name is derived from the word thΓͺr, a wild carnivorous beast, as does the name of her town Therapne. The second part of the town's name comes from the word "apnoos", lifeless or breathless.



    So, we're talking about a Nymph, a beast, a follower of Artemis (Goddess of Hunt and Wilderness) and the Nurse of the God of war.

    So, Theros is very strongly attached to a Unique person, who serves the Gods and is emblematic and feared on her own merits. A Female name, linked to Healing, Hunting and War.

    So... if we talk about Magic, and we talk about colors, this rings very GBR. But probably nothing that will actually relate to all 3. I THINK More R/G

    The only R/G Guild is the Gruul Clans, which is in Gatecrash.

    Now, we can have a very good idea of what's POSSIBLE to relate to Theros. But not what it is... it's not the guild leader, that's an already shown Cyclops with another name...
  • #8
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    So, we're talking about a Nymph, a beast, a follower of Artemis (Goddess of Hunt and Wilderness) and the Nurse of the God of war.


    It wouldn't be past Wizards to reuse names of other literary/mythical characters (though MaRo denies Tybalt), and there has been a spike in hopes for a Greco-Roman theme since the announcement of "Friends, Romans, & Countrymen"

    It's possible I guess to see in Gatecrash? But I am doubtful. It seems late. And the Gruul guild leader is Borborygmos, loosely based off the technical name for stomach growls Wink
  • #9
    Well if they're looking for another broad theme (like Classic Horror) to do another top-down designed block (like Innistrad) then Ancient Greek mythology would be one of those other areas. It's been done many, many times in popular culture (everything from Clash of the Titans, to Disney's Hercules, to Xena, to O Brother Where Art Thou) and most people are familiar with the major characters, places and stories.
  • #10
    Calling it now: First set of next block.
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  • #11
    Can't even wait for RtR block is even released before this stuff?
    Nothing to see here, move along.
  • #12
    Quote from 1Drop
    It wouldn't be past Wizards to reuse names of other literary/mythical characters (though MaRo denies Tybalt), and there has been a spike in hopes for a Greco-Roman theme since the announcement of "Friends, Romans, & Countrymen"

    I feel like this doesn't need to be pointed out to most of you but others may not realize that the code names have 0 bearing on the themes of their sets.
    A Greco-Roman theme would be fun, but the chances that "friends" block is that block are very low. We also have an upcoming "Egypt" theme floating around somewhere.


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  • #13
    A Thero is also a fully ordained Buddhist monk. BACK TO KAMIGAWA!?

    Nah, probably not. I like the idea of a greek themed set.

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  • #14
    Theros does sound like a plane name ? quick to the planechase cards!
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  • #15
    Theros in greek means summer or harvest. It seems unlikely they will do both a greco-roman and an ancient egypt block, so perhaps they'll do a unified ancient block (greek, roman, egyptian, babylonian, etc.)?
  • #16
    Quote from mandelbrot
    Theros in greek means summer or harvest. It seems unlikely they will do both a greco-roman and an ancient egypt block, so perhaps they'll do a unified ancient block (greek, roman, egyptian, babylonian, etc.)?


    That could be interesting. Each color would have its own society--black is Egyptian, blue is Greek, white is Roman, red is nomadic desert tribes, green is Carthaginian*. Something along those lines anyway.


    *Oops.
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  • #17
    An ancient greek/roman/egyptian block is long overdue... Magic could use some mummies and pharaos and stuff along those lines...
  • #18
    Quote from Sigismond0
    That could be interesting. Each color would have its own society--black is Egyptian, blue is Greek, white is Roman, red is nomadic desert tribes, green is Carthian. Something along those lines anyway.


    One of those could be Norse maybe. I think we already have a plane that's shown up on some recent cards with a Norse vibe to it if I'm remembering right?
  • #19
    I'm gonna go ahead and guess it's probably just the name of the next world.

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  • #20
    Quote from Sigismond0
    black is Egyptian, blue is Greek, white is Roman, red is nomadic desert tribes, green is Carthian.
    Carthian? Best hits on google suggests a vampire clan in a RPG.

    I hope you're right about the rest, it sounds awesome.
  • #21
    Quote from Acarna
    I'm gonna go ahead and guess it's probably just the name of the next world.

    ~ Acarna


    Which would also make it the name of the next block (Mirrodin, Kamigawa, Ravnica, Lorwyn, Shadowmoor, Alara, Zendikar, Innistrad blocks) are all named after their respective planes. The only ones that don't fit this are Dominaria blocks, super old stuff like Arabian Nights, and revisits of old planes like Scars block or Return.
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  • #22
    Well I would love to see a set based on Greek mythology and especialy the 12 Gods of Olympus printed as planeswalkers
  • #23
    Quote from Torgeir
    Carthian? Best hits on google suggests a vampire clan in a RPG.

    I hope you're right about the rest, it sounds awesome.


    I think that person meant Carthaginian. Anyways, I just suspect this means the next block (the one after RTR) will have a Greco-Roman theme. Also, where is this Ancient Egypt idea coming from?
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  • #24
    If it is a Ancient Greece themed block, I hope they put a lot of emphasis on Legendary creatures. I've always thought that'd a be a good theme to use to try and redo the idea of Kamigawa, as the myths and such have a lot of emphasis on heroes and whatnot and people are WAY more familiar with it than the Shinto religion that Kamigawa was based off of. Well, Western peoples, anyways.
  • #25
    Quote from 22bebo
    If it is a Ancient Greece themed block, I hope they put a lot of emphasis on Legendary creatures. I've always thought that'd a be a good theme to use to try and redo the idea of Kamigawa, as the myths and such have a lot of emphasis on heroes and whatnot and people are WAY more familiar with it than the Shinto religion that Kamigawa was based off of. Well, Western peoples, anyways.

    As long as they don't overdo it like they did in Kamigawa. Wink
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