I'm sorry if I'm behind the times, but the Wizards page on the Mirrodin Besieged game day says the following:
The Top 2 finishers with Mirran-affiliated decks receive a Pristine Talisman preview card from Mirrodin Pure. The Top 2 finishers with Phyrexia-affiliated decks receive a Suture Priest preview card from New Phyrexia! This is in addition to any Top 8 prize cards you might win for their overall event finish.
Does this mean both sets will be printed? Or will some people get a card from a set that won't exist?
Interesting; didn't catch this before. Either way, you can be sure the card from the "non-existant" set will be a collector's item within a few years.
I wonder what that spells for the card's actual legality in certain formats?
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That's...very interesting, indeed. Wizards made it sound like it was going to be one or the other, but with "a card from Mirrodin Pure" and "a card from New Phyrexia" really does make it sound like...a split set? Or would this just them trying to keep the "oh no it could go either way" as long as they can?
Probably they'll print two half-sets or something. The Mirran half, and the Phyrexian half. Basically just watermarks, but separated by booster.
I wonder how they'd do sealed product if this was the case? Full booster boxes of each, or half and half? 2 separate Fatpacks, or a split (made more complicated by having 9 boosters, but I suppose they could just raise the price another buck or two (Note: please don't) and add a 10th booster for this 'set').
Interesting implications all around. The flavor text has been hinting that Karn himself is not the source of the corruption. Could we see two subsets in the final set? Phyrexia wants a way to transfer a spark to its father. Maybe they succeed and move to a new world or go back to their old one to rebuild it into its former glory.
That's...very interesting, indeed. Wizards made it sound like it was going to be one or the other, but with "a card from Mirrodin Pure" and "a card from New Phyrexia" really does make it sound like...a split set? Or would this just them trying to keep the "oh no it could go either way" as long as they can?
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They plan sets how far in advance again? I have a hard time to believe they'd put in how much time, effort and money into a set to just go "Whoops! Guess this is all just gonna go into the vault now." My money's on a split set. Would take some fancy footwork to jsutify it, but...well, we'll see, I guess.
I'm inclined to think it's still just Mirrodin Pure or New Phyrexia, and that both cards are in whatever the third set is going to be. One card is just being printed with the expansion symbol, etc, of the nonexistent set.
I think they will print the two sets together, due to some universe splitting. Venser is a planeswalker specializing in teleportation, I could see him some how creating a parallel universe where one the mirran win one the phyrexian win. 2 sets, drafted separately alternating weeks @fnm.
I always thought there will be one set, which composed of New Phyrexia and Mirrodin Pure. We might see new-mini block - Hello, Shadowmoor and Eventide. If you remember them, you know what I'm talking about.
I think they're both from the same set, just one Mirran card and one Phyrexian one and they're just telling us different sets now because we don't know the outcome yet. I mean, they already told us that it'll be one set that's either going to be named Mirrodin Pure or New Phyrexia. I don't see why people are still speculating.
I think they're both from the same set, just one Mirran card and one Phyrexian one and they're just telling us different sets now because we don't know the outcome yet. I mean, they already told us that it'll be one set that's either going to be named Mirrodin Pure or New Phyrexia. I don't see why people are still speculating.
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I think they're both from the same set, just one Mirran card and one Phyrexian one and they're just telling us different sets now because we don't know the outcome yet. I mean, they already told us that it'll be one set that's either going to be named Mirrodin Pure or New Phyrexia. I don't see why people are still speculating.
Agreed. This means everybody should be playing Mirran to get the only card ever printed in the Mirrodin Pure set.
Guys, guys, it's really simple: as most people have guessed by now, Phyrexia wins the war, but mirroring Scars, there will be a few Mirran cards, the underground resistance if you will. Mirran promo is going to be one of those.
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
They are probably doing this in order to keep the winner a secret for a little bit longer. I suppose one of those will be printed with the expansion symbol of the set that won't be released (If Phyrexia wins, the Pristine Talisman prize from the game day will have the Mirrodin Pure expansion symbol but when the set it is released it will have the New Phyrexia symbol and viceversa with Suture Priest).
Probably they'll print two half-sets or something. The Mirran half, and the Phyrexian half. Basically just watermarks, but separated by booster.
or we have a 4 set block or the next big set is new phyrexia coz they win the war and mirrodin pure is a battle victory for mirrans so that's the 3rd set
They are probably doing this in order to keep the winner a secret for a little bit longer. I suppose one of those will be printed with the expansion symbol of the set that won't be released (If Phyrexia wins, the Pristine Talisman prize from the game day will have the Mirrodin Pure expansion symbol but when the set it is released it will have the New Phyrexia symbol and viceversa with Suture Priest).
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For the sake of argument, what will happen if the Mirran promo card is released as-assumed and the third set ends up being New Phyrexia?
My personal theory is that Karn/some other PW rips the plane in half, thus New Phyrexia and Mirrodin Pure. Not to mention the logistics of making two separate sets and only printing one of them are complicated to say the least.
It's really obvious that there was going to be 2 sets from the start. I don't know why everyone buys this little "white lie" Wizards is using, exactly as MaRo said, to rile people up to fight for their own side.
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My personal theory is that Karn/some other PW rips the plane in half, thus New Phyrexia and Mirrodin Pure. Not to mention the logistics of making two separate sets and only printing one of them are complicated to say the least.
The thing is that they never printed two sets, they printed one but trademarked names for two and made logos and expansion symbol for two sets. Only one set exist, the other is a red herring
The Top 2 finishers with Mirran-affiliated decks receive a Pristine Talisman preview card from Mirrodin Pure. The Top 2 finishers with Phyrexia-affiliated decks receive a Suture Priest preview card from New Phyrexia! This is in addition to any Top 8 prize cards you might win for their overall event finish.
Does this mean both sets will be printed? Or will some people get a card from a set that won't exist?
for reference: http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/events.aspx?x=mtgcom/events/gameday-facts
I wonder what that spells for the card's actual legality in certain formats?
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I wonder how they'd do sealed product if this was the case? Full booster boxes of each, or half and half? 2 separate Fatpacks, or a split (made more complicated by having 9 boosters, but I suppose they could just raise the price another buck or two (Note: please don't) and add a 10th booster for this 'set').
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They plan sets how far in advance again? I have a hard time to believe they'd put in how much time, effort and money into a set to just go "Whoops! Guess this is all just gonna go into the vault now." My money's on a split set. Would take some fancy footwork to jsutify it, but...well, we'll see, I guess.
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Agreed. This means everybody should be playing Mirran to get the only card ever printed in the Mirrodin Pure set.
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or we have a 4 set block or the next big set is new phyrexia coz they win the war and mirrodin pure is a battle victory for mirrans so that's the 3rd set
For the sake of argument, what will happen if the Mirran promo card is released as-assumed and the third set ends up being New Phyrexia?
"Balanced" block design, where you divvy up the block in "equal" portions and stagger it across sets, was instituted in Ravnica and died in Lor/Sha. Alara did not feature wedges, Zen/WWK/RoE's theme had no logical interconnection (if a bit of symmetry). This block isn't about "phyrexia = mirrodin", that's not even a mechanic to balance. It's about two warring sides leading to an earth-shattering conclusion. Yet "Phyrexia loses" is not acceptable to mirran players, "Mirrodin loses" is not acceptable to phyrexian players- telling the story one-sided in either fashion is a letdown to both sides, and a good way to not sell cards, particularly in these third sets that they've been struggling to sell cards with. On the other hand, telling people who've identified with one side or another that they can buy boosters full of just their choice - that's exactly the kind of sale gimmick you'd expect at this point.
They'll probably give it the shooting star symbol instead of the actual set symbol, to prevent an early reveal.
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The thing is that they never printed two sets, they printed one but trademarked names for two and made logos and expansion symbol for two sets. Only one set exist, the other is a red herring
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