Now I'm wondering what kind of tricks they have in store to make 11th edition desirable. As evidenced by 10th, putting cool, powerful, hard-to-get cards in the core set increases that set's sales.
What's the most powerful, standard-legal, expensive and hard-to-get card out there? I say Tarmogoyf. Tarmogoyf was in Future Sight, and was 'future-shifted', indicating that it will be reprinted in a future set. It is set to rotate out of standard soon, and reprinting it in 11th would give us a goyf-less window of standard, but would also give those who invested in goyfs at secondary-market prices more bang for their buck- a return on their investment, so to speak. IMO, it would be the perfect card to reprint in 11th to boost core set sales.
And for those who will cite WOTC quotes that Tarmogoyf was a "mistake"?... I believe this to be a deliberate misdirection, intended make us think they won't reprint it when they have every intention of doing so. If goyf were really that broken, I think it would've been banned in block. When WOTC makes a mistake, they often don't correct it, but exploit it instead. Look at Umezawa's Jitte- it was a "mistake", warped the metagame, but was never banned in block, like Skullclamp was. During Kamigawa block, everyone had to have multiple copies of this "mistake" to be competitive, and it is still having an impact on older formats.
The other suspicion I have is that 11th edition will see the reprint of the Ravnica dual lands, such as Watery Grave and Stomping Ground. These lands were purposefully made to have names that avoid binding them to the guild they were associated with, so that they could be reprinted outside the Ravnica setting. These would be ideal replacements for the painlands (like Brushland and Sulfurous Springs) as the core set dual cycle, and would reward players who were around during the Ravnica block.
Of course, these are just my suspicions, but I have a bet with a friend in my playgroup that goyf will be reprinted in 11th, so I'd like to hear what the community here thinks. Will I lose the bet?
Now I'm wondering what kind of tricks they have in store to make 11th edition desirable. As evidenced by 10th, putting cool, powerful, hard-to-get cards in the core set increases that set's sales.
What's the most powerful, standard-legal, expensive and hard-to-get card out there? I say Tarmogoyf. Tarmogoyf was in Future Sight, and was 'future-shifted', indicating that it will be reprinted in a future set. It is set to rotate out of standard soon, and reprinting it in 11th would give us a goyf-less window of standard, but would also give those who invested in goyfs at secondary-market prices more bang for their buck- a return on their investment, so to speak. IMO, it would be the perfect card to reprint in 11th to boost core set sales.
The other suspicion I have is that 11th edition will see the reprint of the Ravnica dual lands, such as Watery Grave and Stomping Ground. These lands were purposefully made to have names that avoid binding them to the guild they were associated with, so that they could be reprinted outside the Ravnica setting. These would be ideal replacements for the painlands (like Brushland and Sulfurous Springs) as the core set dual cycle, and would reward players who were around during the Ravnica block.
Of course, these are just my suspicions, but I have a bet with a friend in my playgroup that goyf will be reprinted in 11th, so I'd like to hear what the community here thinks. Will I lose the bet?
I'm going to guess you will lose the bet. It doesn't seem like they'll reprint goyf until they have tribals again, no?
Goyf mentions Tribal and Planeswalker, making it likely too complicated for the core set. Also, Wizards has admitted goyf was a big mistake on their part. I highly doubt it will every be reprinted.
Look, the shocklands were a once-in-a-decade kind of thing, like cycling lands. They wont be reprinted until there is some form of set functionality based off of their prescense (much like Ravinca's guilds).
11th will once again see the printings of the painlands, and you should just be happy with that,... they've been quite sufficient for a long, long while now.
Tarmo will never see reprint, especially not a core set. Remember: The core sets are designed as an introduction for new players, they are supposed to represent what Magic is all about. White gets Wrath of God, Black gets some useless, overcosted beater, Green gets Craw Wurm, Red gets Incinerate, and Blue gets Cancel. That's just how things are.
Tarmo is both too expensive, and too intricate to feature in a core set, as it goes beyond basic play mechanics. The fact that it wouldn't even fit into future typeII play without planeswalkers or tribal cards seems to bolster this point even more (which I sincerely doubt).
The core sets are designed as an introduction for new players, they are supposed to represent what Magic is all about.
I think this actually helps the case for Tarmogoyf in 11th. What better way to indroduce the game to new players than to list all the card types on one card?
Also, sneaking some Tribal cards into the core set would be pretty easy- reprinting Tar Pitcher and Tarfire would do the trick, though I would imagine some older cards like Feeding Frenzy and Raise the Alarm getting errata'd to be Tribal as well.
As for planeswalkers, I dunno about them making it into a core set. They seem like expansion material to me, but it isn't impossible to include a Planeswalker or two in a core. 11th might even see a completely new planeswalker based on a legendary creature that got the 'spark', like Nicol Bolas. Karn is also a possibility for reprinting as a Planeswalker, though I doubt that will happen until we get a 'return-to-Mirrodin' expansion.
Tarmo will never see reprint, especially not a core set. Remember: The core sets are designed as an introduction for new players, they are supposed to represent what Magic is all about. White gets Wrath of God, Black gets some useless, overcosted beater, Green gets Craw Wurm, Red gets Incinerate, and Blue gets Cancel. That's just how things are.
Playing devil's advocate for a minute....
As part of the "intro to new players" theme, they include really crappy cards to teach new players about sucky cards. The archetypical example of this is the "lucky charm" cycle.
Wouldn't it also make sense to include really overpowered/broken cards like 'goyf in Core as well?
Why on Earth would Wizards take Tarmogoyf, one of the most format-imbalancing cards they've printed in the last five years, one that sells well on the secondary market but wouldn't really boost 11th Edition sales that high, and which people got so sick of during its first tenure that any return for it would be bound to be unpopular with many, many players, and reprint it?
This line of speculation is utterly random and totally unsupported by the facts in evidence. I'm mystified as to why we've had three threads about it.
I think this actually helps the case for Tarmogoyf in 11th. What better way to indroduce the game to new players than to list all the card types on one card?
Also, sneaking some Tribal cards into the core set would be pretty easy- reprinting Tar Pitcher and Tarfire would do the trick, though I would imagine some older cards like Feeding Frenzy and Raise the Alarm getting errata'd to be Tribal as well.
As for planeswalkers, I dunno about them making it into a core set. They seem like expansion material to me, but it isn't impossible to include a Planeswalker or two in a core. 11th might even see a completely new planeswalker based on a legendary creature that got the 'spark', like Nicol Bolas. Karn is also a possibility for reprinting as a Planeswalker, though I doubt that will happen until we get a 'return-to-Mirrodin' expansion.
no no no...Planeswalkers have more of a chance than Tarmogoyf in the core set. Tribal in 11th? What? No! Thats even worse idea. Tribal is a mechanic for Lorwyn block only or until they decide to make another tribal block. So far the only tribal spells that I am seeing being played right now is Bitterblossom and Tarfire. I'd rather have them do what they did with the beacon cycle from Mirrodin for the Commands. Remove the over powered ones like Cryptic and Profane command and keep the not as powerful ones. Now the shocklands from Rav? No thats also very unlikely, they have basic land types on a non-basic land form. That would give them an excuse to reprint Farseek which would make new players confused. Older players and smart new players would understand how to get around that with Temple Garden and the other Forest/x cards but thats even worse. Just accept the fact that Tarmy is gone, shocklands have an extremely low chance of coming back, and Planeswalkers will probalby be debated for a while.
Now I'm wondering what kind of tricks they have in store to make 11th edition desirable. As evidenced by 10th, putting cool, powerful, hard-to-get cards in the core set increases that set's sales.
What's the most powerful, standard-legal, expensive and hard-to-get card out there? I say Tarmogoyf. Tarmogoyf was in Future Sight, and was 'future-shifted', indicating that it will be reprinted in a future set. It is set to rotate out of standard soon, and reprinting it in 11th would give us a goyf-less window of standard, but would also give those who invested in goyfs at secondary-market prices more bang for their buck- a return on their investment, so to speak. IMO, it would be the perfect card to reprint in 11th to boost core set sales.
And for those who will cite WOTC quotes that Tarmogoyf was a "mistake"?... I believe this to be a deliberate misdirection, intended make us think they won't reprint it when they have every intention of doing so. If goyf were really that broken, I think it would've been banned in block. When WOTC makes a mistake, they often don't correct it, but exploit it instead. Look at Umezawa's Jitte- it was a "mistake", warped the metagame, but was never banned in block, like Skullclamp was. During Kamigawa block, everyone had to have multiple copies of this "mistake" to be competitive, and it is still having an impact on older formats.
The other suspicion I have is that 11th edition will see the reprint of the Ravnica dual lands, such as Watery Grave and Stomping Ground. These lands were purposefully made to have names that avoid binding them to the guild they were associated with, so that they could be reprinted outside the Ravnica setting. These would be ideal replacements for the painlands (like Brushland and Sulfurous Springs) as the core set dual cycle, and would reward players who were around during the Ravnica block.
Of course, these are just my suspicions, but I have a bet with a friend in my playgroup that goyf will be reprinted in 11th, so I'd like to hear what the community here thinks. Will I lose the bet?
FYI if WotC is saying that Goyf is a mistake and they won't reprint it, they really mean they won't reprint it. Did you see Jitte in 10th? No. Will we see Jitte in 11th? Definately not. Again I made a post in another forum where if they reprinted Goyf they need to have a very good excuse, like Magic was dieing and if that was happening they would bring back the Power 9, and other cards that were tournament staples in their hayday and still are when played. Skullclamp was their mistake and they thankfully caught it. Jitte was a mistake but they deemed that players had enough sense to use anti-artifact cards in both Mirrodin and Kamigawa block, plus other people were playing Jitte to counter opposing Jitte's because it was legendary. Skullclamp was not legendary and it was going to make an insane deck even more insane simply because there was enough counters in Mirrodin and in response to killing the skullclamp all a player would have to do was sac it to Ravanger to make it bigger. Besides the point of future sight was to show future cards, mechanics, or planes to come in the meantime. Tarmogoyf has served its purpose in showing future mechanic ideas i.e. Planeswalkers and Tribal. The creature itself will not return again.
Maybe they'll spoil just about every single rare just to make us think that Tarmo isn't coming back, and everyone will say "Yes! Tarmogoyf will be buried in Future Sight forever!" Then at the prerelease/release someone will open a Goyf.
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Tarmogoyf will not be seen ever again in anything but some kind of promotional set, but not because it is too complicated (because its not) and not because we aren't likely to see Tribal cards again for a while (because that has no real bearing on the card), no, it won't be seen again because the card is too powerful to just reprint on a whim. The biggest, most powerful cards of a format are never reprinted right away any more, and often, they are never printed again.
As for the Ravnica dual lands. I think they will be reprinted again, but who can honestly know for sure if they will be reprinted in 11th Edition over the pain lands. We know that WotC contemplated using the fetch lands, but decided not to because they didn't have the full ten card cycle. We also know that WotC wants to have a ten card cycle of good dual lands in the core set. There aren't that many of these around. If they want to replace the pain lands in 11th Edition, they don't have many very good alternatives except the Ravnica dual lands.
the Shock lands will be reprionted in 11th, as well as at least 1 planeswalker, mainly because of the reason that even if WotC has spokenly admitted core sets will not be for luring new players as often. I'm sure that New players will end up being brought into the game with a Core Set. And, learning about planeswalkers is healthy for the integration of the game.
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And for those who will cite WOTC quotes that Tarmogoyf was a "mistake"?... I believe this to be a deliberate misdirection, intended make us think they won't reprint it when they have every intention of doing so.
You're into conspiracy theories, aren't you? WotC has no reason to deliberately lie to its players. That would be stupid marketing.
As to what other people are saying about Planeswalkers:
I don't think it would make any sense to put any Planeswalkers in 11th. Maybe in 12th, but when 11th comes out, the first round of Planeswalkers will still be in standard, unless I'm doing my math wrong. In which case, bring on the Planeswalkers!
And for those who will cite WOTC quotes that Tarmogoyf was a "mistake"?... I believe this to be a deliberate misdirection, intended make us think they won't reprint it when they have every intention of doing so.
What possible reason could Wizards have for doing this? All this would accomplish is angering the players. First of all, many people will trade their Tarmogoyfs before they rotate out of Standard. This would force them to reacquire them, once again paying an exorbitant price. Second of all, people don't like being LIED TO. For those who believed Wizards (especially those who welcomed the news), it almost feels like a betrayal.
If Wizards planned on reprinting Tarmogoyf, they wouldn't have stated that it was a mistake to print. Wizards has never lied to players, and will not. (Please don't bring up the issue of Birds being reprinted in 10th or similar issues -- that was a change of plans and not a deliberate misdirection.) Why would they? There are a ton of reasons why not, but no real reason why they should.
If goyf were really that broken, I think it would've been banned in block.
Banning is a very drastic action. People want to be able to play with cards they own. As such, it is extremely rare for cards to be banned in Block or Standard. Tarmogoyf wasn't quite bad enough to be banned, that is true. Just because it didn't hurt the format enough to be banned, however, doesn't change the fact that it did hurt the format and should never have been printed in the first place.
Look at Umezawa's Jitte- it was a "mistake", warped the metagame, but was never banned in block, like Skullclamp was. During Kamigawa block, everyone had to have multiple copies of this "mistake" to be competitive, and it is still having an impact on older formats.
And Jitte was never reprinted. Case closed.
As for the Ravnica Duals, they'll probably be reprinted eventually, but 11th seems too soon. Perhaps 12th.
On a personal note, no, I don't want Tarmogoyf reprinted. I don't know why, but two-mana Lhurgoyfs never seemed right, anyway. But yeah, no.
If WotC would lie to us and reprint Goyf, can you imagine the playerbase reaction? It would create absolute chaos. You'd have people left and right buying Tarmogoyfs at insanely high prices, or swearing that they sold their set. Then you have the people who got them for really cheap and are gloating over it. A fight ensues. Yeah, that'd only create chaos.
As for the Shocklands, maybe when they want to push multicolor further. for now,though, the Painlands suffice.
This is a really bad guess as to how they will spice up 11th Ed. I still assert there is more likelyhood that WotC will make Necropotence an 11th ed Mythic Rare than putting Tarmogoyf in any base set.
This is a really bad guess as to how they will spice up 11th Ed. I still assert there is more likelyhood that WotC will make Necropotence an 11th ed Mythic Rare than putting Tarmogoyf in any base set.
I wouldn't go as far as saying that. Tarmogoyf has a better chance of being Mythic Rare in 11th than Necropotence does. people can still break that card in millions of ways.
A problem I see with this part of your argument. 10th was an aniversery set. I am sure that a lot of those cards got printed and included in the pre-cons to make them easier for new players to get. There is little more frustrating for a new player then to attack with a raging goblin only to have it blocked by Akroma W.
With 11th not being an aniversery set I could see a return to a lower power level. That doesn't mean we won't see the Rav Duals, but it makes a lot of cards very unlikely (tarmogoyf).
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A problem I see with this part of your argument. 10th was an aniversery set. I am sure that a lot of those cards got printed and included in the pre-cons to make them easier for new players to get. There is little more frustrating for a new player then to attack with a raging goblin only to have it blocked by Akroma W.
With 11th not being an aniversery set I could see a return to a lower power level. That doesn't mean we won't see the Rav Duals, but it makes a lot of cards very unlikely (tarmogoyf).
I can agree with a lower power but I think they'll probably reprint lower power legends. For instance we could get Khamal, Fist of Krosa for green, just big flashy legends that didn't see much play, I hope they don't try to reprint the stronger cards like the Dragon legends from Kamigawa (the B, W, and U).
Allow me to disagree. Not only I don't believe they won't drop the power level but I also believe that they will raise it. They've recently said that they no longer see Core Set as the expansion used by the begginers to enter the game. So they'll (most probably) no longer keep cards out of the core set for not being simple enough. I know being more complicated isn't the same as being better, but it is a start. Also, Core Sets have been know for slow-sellers. And we know Hasbro and/or WotC are fixing things as to attract more costumers. Last but not least: the overall power level is higher these last few years. Why would they lower it, all of a sudden? They would, at most, keep it the way it is.
Well remember that they still want core sets to be an introduction for new players as well. I think they might lower the power level but not put in cards that are too simple for the more experience players. I was thrilled when they reprinted Incinerate but I thought it was a good way to introduce younger players to one of the philosphies of red: cheap burn with benefits. Which gets them used to the idea to cards like Flame Javelin.
It seems that the core set is usually a much slower seller than expansions. For the 10th edition, WOTC wanted to reprint some really awesome cards to make the set more cool/desirable, and so we saw the reprint of some powerful legendary cards such as Reya Dawnbringer, Squee, Goblin Nabob, Arcanis the Omnipotent and Phage the Untouchable, powerful cycles in the Beacon cycle and the Muse cycle, and the return of powerful, expensive tournament staples such as Siege-Gang Commander, Troll Ascetic, Howling Mine, Crucible of Worlds, Platinum Angel and Pithing Needle. As a result, 10th was probably the best-selling core set since Revised.
Now I'm wondering what kind of tricks they have in store to make 11th edition desirable. As evidenced by 10th, putting cool, powerful, hard-to-get cards in the core set increases that set's sales.
What's the most powerful, standard-legal, expensive and hard-to-get card out there? I say Tarmogoyf. Tarmogoyf was in Future Sight, and was 'future-shifted', indicating that it will be reprinted in a future set. It is set to rotate out of standard soon, and reprinting it in 11th would give us a goyf-less window of standard, but would also give those who invested in goyfs at secondary-market prices more bang for their buck- a return on their investment, so to speak. IMO, it would be the perfect card to reprint in 11th to boost core set sales.
And for those who will cite WOTC quotes that Tarmogoyf was a "mistake"?... I believe this to be a deliberate misdirection, intended make us think they won't reprint it when they have every intention of doing so. If goyf were really that broken, I think it would've been banned in block. When WOTC makes a mistake, they often don't correct it, but exploit it instead. Look at Umezawa's Jitte- it was a "mistake", warped the metagame, but was never banned in block, like Skullclamp was. During Kamigawa block, everyone had to have multiple copies of this "mistake" to be competitive, and it is still having an impact on older formats.
The other suspicion I have is that 11th edition will see the reprint of the Ravnica dual lands, such as Watery Grave and Stomping Ground. These lands were purposefully made to have names that avoid binding them to the guild they were associated with, so that they could be reprinted outside the Ravnica setting. These would be ideal replacements for the painlands (like Brushland and Sulfurous Springs) as the core set dual cycle, and would reward players who were around during the Ravnica block.
Of course, these are just my suspicions, but I have a bet with a friend in my playgroup that goyf will be reprinted in 11th, so I'd like to hear what the community here thinks. Will I lose the bet?
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11th will once again see the printings of the painlands, and you should just be happy with that,... they've been quite sufficient for a long, long while now.
Tarmo will never see reprint, especially not a core set. Remember: The core sets are designed as an introduction for new players, they are supposed to represent what Magic is all about. White gets Wrath of God, Black gets some useless, overcosted beater, Green gets Craw Wurm, Red gets Incinerate, and Blue gets Cancel. That's just how things are.
Tarmo is both too expensive, and too intricate to feature in a core set, as it goes beyond basic play mechanics. The fact that it wouldn't even fit into future typeII play without planeswalkers or tribal cards seems to bolster this point even more (which I sincerely doubt).
I think this actually helps the case for Tarmogoyf in 11th. What better way to indroduce the game to new players than to list all the card types on one card?
Also, sneaking some Tribal cards into the core set would be pretty easy- reprinting Tar Pitcher and Tarfire would do the trick, though I would imagine some older cards like Feeding Frenzy and Raise the Alarm getting errata'd to be Tribal as well.
As for planeswalkers, I dunno about them making it into a core set. They seem like expansion material to me, but it isn't impossible to include a Planeswalker or two in a core. 11th might even see a completely new planeswalker based on a legendary creature that got the 'spark', like Nicol Bolas. Karn is also a possibility for reprinting as a Planeswalker, though I doubt that will happen until we get a 'return-to-Mirrodin' expansion.
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Playing devil's advocate for a minute....
As part of the "intro to new players" theme, they include really crappy cards to teach new players about sucky cards. The archetypical example of this is the "lucky charm" cycle.
Wouldn't it also make sense to include really overpowered/broken cards like 'goyf in Core as well?
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This line of speculation is utterly random and totally unsupported by the facts in evidence. I'm mystified as to why we've had three threads about it.
no no no...Planeswalkers have more of a chance than Tarmogoyf in the core set. Tribal in 11th? What? No! Thats even worse idea. Tribal is a mechanic for Lorwyn block only or until they decide to make another tribal block. So far the only tribal spells that I am seeing being played right now is Bitterblossom and Tarfire. I'd rather have them do what they did with the beacon cycle from Mirrodin for the Commands. Remove the over powered ones like Cryptic and Profane command and keep the not as powerful ones. Now the shocklands from Rav? No thats also very unlikely, they have basic land types on a non-basic land form. That would give them an excuse to reprint Farseek which would make new players confused. Older players and smart new players would understand how to get around that with Temple Garden and the other Forest/x cards but thats even worse. Just accept the fact that Tarmy is gone, shocklands have an extremely low chance of coming back, and Planeswalkers will probalby be debated for a while.
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FYI if WotC is saying that Goyf is a mistake and they won't reprint it, they really mean they won't reprint it. Did you see Jitte in 10th? No. Will we see Jitte in 11th? Definately not. Again I made a post in another forum where if they reprinted Goyf they need to have a very good excuse, like Magic was dieing and if that was happening they would bring back the Power 9, and other cards that were tournament staples in their hayday and still are when played. Skullclamp was their mistake and they thankfully caught it. Jitte was a mistake but they deemed that players had enough sense to use anti-artifact cards in both Mirrodin and Kamigawa block, plus other people were playing Jitte to counter opposing Jitte's because it was legendary. Skullclamp was not legendary and it was going to make an insane deck even more insane simply because there was enough counters in Mirrodin and in response to killing the skullclamp all a player would have to do was sac it to Ravanger to make it bigger. Besides the point of future sight was to show future cards, mechanics, or planes to come in the meantime. Tarmogoyf has served its purpose in showing future mechanic ideas i.e. Planeswalkers and Tribal. The creature itself will not return again.
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As for the Ravnica dual lands. I think they will be reprinted again, but who can honestly know for sure if they will be reprinted in 11th Edition over the pain lands. We know that WotC contemplated using the fetch lands, but decided not to because they didn't have the full ten card cycle. We also know that WotC wants to have a ten card cycle of good dual lands in the core set. There aren't that many of these around. If they want to replace the pain lands in 11th Edition, they don't have many very good alternatives except the Ravnica dual lands.
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You're into conspiracy theories, aren't you? WotC has no reason to deliberately lie to its players. That would be stupid marketing.
As to what other people are saying about Planeswalkers:
I don't think it would make any sense to put any Planeswalkers in 11th. Maybe in 12th, but when 11th comes out, the first round of Planeswalkers will still be in standard, unless I'm doing my math wrong. In which case, bring on the Planeswalkers!
What possible reason could Wizards have for doing this? All this would accomplish is angering the players. First of all, many people will trade their Tarmogoyfs before they rotate out of Standard. This would force them to reacquire them, once again paying an exorbitant price. Second of all, people don't like being LIED TO. For those who believed Wizards (especially those who welcomed the news), it almost feels like a betrayal.
If Wizards planned on reprinting Tarmogoyf, they wouldn't have stated that it was a mistake to print. Wizards has never lied to players, and will not. (Please don't bring up the issue of Birds being reprinted in 10th or similar issues -- that was a change of plans and not a deliberate misdirection.) Why would they? There are a ton of reasons why not, but no real reason why they should.
Banning is a very drastic action. People want to be able to play with cards they own. As such, it is extremely rare for cards to be banned in Block or Standard. Tarmogoyf wasn't quite bad enough to be banned, that is true. Just because it didn't hurt the format enough to be banned, however, doesn't change the fact that it did hurt the format and should never have been printed in the first place.
And Jitte was never reprinted. Case closed.
As for the Ravnica Duals, they'll probably be reprinted eventually, but 11th seems too soon. Perhaps 12th.
If WotC would lie to us and reprint Goyf, can you imagine the playerbase reaction? It would create absolute chaos. You'd have people left and right buying Tarmogoyfs at insanely high prices, or swearing that they sold their set. Then you have the people who got them for really cheap and are gloating over it. A fight ensues. Yeah, that'd only create chaos.
As for the Shocklands, maybe when they want to push multicolor further. for now,though, the Painlands suffice.
anyways, i think rune snag would make it to the list of reprints. but what i would most likely want to see is the newly reprinted legends.:rolleyes:
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A problem I see with this part of your argument. 10th was an aniversery set. I am sure that a lot of those cards got printed and included in the pre-cons to make them easier for new players to get. There is little more frustrating for a new player then to attack with a raging goblin only to have it blocked by Akroma W.
With 11th not being an aniversery set I could see a return to a lower power level. That doesn't mean we won't see the Rav Duals, but it makes a lot of cards very unlikely (tarmogoyf).
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by ninja squirrels either. - Dr. Wilson
There was once [The Pack], but no more.
There was once [The Pack], but no more.