Update: Ooops, links don't work. Sorry. I'm not too good at this.
I was looking at some of the new cards and couldn't help but notice a different backdrop to some of them. Instead of having the look of a normal blue card, Courier's Capsule and Sharding Shinx of more of a look closer to that of artifact cards. Instead of the watery look, there is scratches and more of the metal/stone look. And going by the card numbers on them they are clearly not counted into the normal artifacts section at the tail end of a set.
Another example would be Executioner's Capsule. A black card without a black frame.
I am thinking that there will be artifacts that are intended to be shard specific from a flavor point of view. So if Grixis is mainly shown in black cards, then this artifact has been moved into the black section to show that it belongs within that shard.
Sorry if there is already a thread for this, I didn't see one already made.
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If they had printed that today (or in SHA), it would've had the artifact border with gold trim. That means another frame design though, and they didn't see the point with messing around until they knew they wanted colored artifacts featured in an upcoming set.
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the myr was ok, since it was in FS with the odd design , but i'm not sure about how I feel about
It's not obvious that this card is blue (apart from te CC), the gold one are ok
I suspect that if there is a W or B one , they should also be ok, its just that the pale blue and the dark grey look very simmilar to me, kind of like the myrodin white/artifact problem
Cards' colors have ALWAYS been indicated by their CCs, not by their borders (apart from exceptions stated in the rules text). You shouldn't feel weird about this experience...
I know that, all I'm saying is that the blue part of the card is not blue enough, the myr had a deep blue while the sphinx as a very pale one.
Imagine your playing a 6 players game, you try to see what is on the otherside of the table and you have to ask them " is it a blue artifact creature or a regular artifact creature? " its just how I feel.
Imagine your playing a 6 players game, you try to see what is on the otherside of the table and you have to ask them " is it a blue artifact creature or a regular artifact creature? " its just how I feel.
And if it didn't have the "artifact border", people would have trouble remembering that it's an artifact.
But yes, the blue could really be a bit more... visible.
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I know that, all I'm saying is that the blue part of the card is not blue enough, the myr had a deep blue while the sphinx as a very pale one.
Imagine your playing a 6 players game, you try to see what is on the otherside of the table and you have to ask them " is it a blue artifact creature or a regular artifact creature? " its just how I feel.
I bet the blue parts will look bluer on the physical cards. They won't repeat the same sort of mistake they made with the new artifact frames (i.e. they initially looked like white frames.)
see if i Were to do the Transguild Courier, Windwright Mage, ad Such.. I'd give em intresting borders. See attached images.
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I know nothing about the process, but I imagine it's cheaper to give all multi-colored cards 1 gold frame, instead of coming up with a dozen+ different frames to use on a small number of cards each block...that being said, it does look nice
see if i Were to do the Transguild Courier, Windwright Mage, ad Such.. I'd give em intresting borders.
I'd kind of prefer they do something like this too. The two-color pinstriping introduced in Ravnica is a huge aid to play and I don't see any fundamental reason why it couldn't be extended to three-color cards -- then they could leave the pure gold pinstriping to WUBRG cards (I'm assuming that the Nephilim combos will probably never be repeated). I think the ideal frame for Windwright Mage would be artifact background, UWB pinstriping, and gold title/type bars.
Now that i look at my mock-up creations i can see that the possibility of determining weather they are artifact creatures with colors, verus just play artifact creatures seems more difficult, due to the thre light colors in the Windwright Mage's box, and the black doesn't really "show up" i'm glad that some of them are with the gold frames. but they could still really use a streamlined idea to make the colored artifacts seem "special"
A baseline Idea would be to use the Hybrid Frames, with an Artifact colouring, as seen below, on attachment.
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I was looking at some of the new cards and couldn't help but notice a different backdrop to some of them. Instead of having the look of a normal blue card, Courier's Capsule and Sharding Shinx of more of a look closer to that of artifact cards. Instead of the watery look, there is scratches and more of the metal/stone look. And going by the card numbers on them they are clearly not counted into the normal artifacts section at the tail end of a set.
Another example would be Executioner's Capsule. A black card without a black frame.
I am thinking that there will be artifacts that are intended to be shard specific from a flavor point of view. So if Grixis is mainly shown in black cards, then this artifact has been moved into the black section to show that it belongs within that shard.
Sorry if there is already a thread for this, I didn't see one already made.
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As I had said, yes, this started with Sarcomite Myr in Future Sight, continued with Reaper King, and now we're really seeing it in force.
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Yet Jeremy Jarvis addressed that here:
It's not obvious that this card is blue (apart from te CC), the gold one are ok
I suspect that if there is a W or B one , they should also be ok, its just that the pale blue and the dark grey look very simmilar to me, kind of like the myrodin white/artifact problem
I know that, all I'm saying is that the blue part of the card is not blue enough, the myr had a deep blue while the sphinx as a very pale one.
Imagine your playing a 6 players game, you try to see what is on the otherside of the table and you have to ask them " is it a blue artifact creature or a regular artifact creature? " its just how I feel.
But yes, the blue could really be a bit more... visible.
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I'd kind of prefer they do something like this too. The two-color pinstriping introduced in Ravnica is a huge aid to play and I don't see any fundamental reason why it couldn't be extended to three-color cards -- then they could leave the pure gold pinstriping to WUBRG cards (I'm assuming that the Nephilim combos will probably never be repeated). I think the ideal frame for Windwright Mage would be artifact background, UWB pinstriping, and gold title/type bars.
A baseline Idea would be to use the Hybrid Frames, with an Artifact colouring, as seen below, on attachment.
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