Trample and shroud would be really sweet if it were true.
As for completing the cycle, I'm looking forward to it but it might not end up being what we think. Yes, Rosewater posted those ideas and they do match with their colors. But they don't exactly have to go that route.
I'm not saying we're gonna see the U/G creature have flying and lifelink or anthing like that. But they could always do other stuff.
The (B/G) won't have deathtouch, Shadormoor/Eventide features wither instead. Likely are regeneration, persist and/or basilisk (whenever ~ deals combat damage to a creature, destroy that creature at the end of turn).
Basilisk is deathtouch.
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Here's my thoughts on the creature cycle (Note: I had another thread on this, but I guess I'll cross-post here). Names are just placeholders, since I don't care to make unnamed cards.
The average lion is approximately 190 cm long and 60 cm wide = 11400 cm2 = 0.00000114 km2
Now, if we take that times a trillion we get 11,400,000 km2 of lion.
Yes, should you choose to move the +1/+1 counter to the hag, unless it were killed before it's ability resolved. Otherwise it's a recurring Grizzly Bear.
It won't be an Elf Merfolk. Just a Merfolk or an Elf.
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hey i have managed to evolve my axolotls by feeding them thyroid glands the thyroxine contained in these gland is enough to change these water dwelling creatures into land based creatures
Posted by: Tay Collins | January 20, 2010 6:45 AM
Tay, that's not evolution. It's metamorphosis. Evolution means descent with heritable modification – individuals cannot evolve, unless they're Pokemon.
Posted by: David Marjanović | January 20, 2010 8:55 AM
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Malice of the Duergar - :symwb::symwb::symwb: Enchantment
As long as a player controls a green permanent, creatures you control get +1/+1.
As long as a player controls a red permanent, creatures you control get +1/+1.
Flash/shroud
When this comes into play draw a card.
2/2
All are green and blue and make sence by paying three of one color.
I also think that the (B/W) creature will have Fear or first strike + lifelink.
And for (U/R) since it seems a little out of place.. Here is my take:
Instants and Sorcerys cost you (U/R) less to play.
1/1
You are on to something here! Let me think of what I can come up with just something on the fly..
(U/G)(U/G)(U/G)
Sorcery
Draw 4 Cards
(R/U)(R/U)(R/U)
Sorcery
Search your library for an instant and a sorcery card. Put these cards in your hand.
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W)
Sorcery
Destroy all Artifacts and Enchantments target player controls.
(B/W)(B/W)(B/W)
Instant
Destroy target tapped creature, gain life equal to it's power.
(G/B)(G/B)(G/B)
Instant
Creatures you control get +2/+2 and have 0: regenerate this, until end of turn.
The Spell version rock, except the red/white... that's a bad card. The g/u & u/r are so broken... I love them so much. The u/r you search out a counter and another of the u/r so nice
Seeing the "equal costs" of Shadowmoor, and seeing the liege of shadowmoor costs are not equal in this edition, I guess this three hybrid mana cycle you speak, are the lieges. It makes all senses (sorry my bad english).:D
No, you are very wrong because of several reasons:
1. The lieges' rare, this cycle is uncommon.
2. There probably won't be lieges in shadowmoor - check the orb results.
3. It wouldn't make sense to continue a cycle in place of another cycle. Then the idea of a CYCLE would vanish.
You say "It makes all senses" - I say "It makes absolutely no sense at all, and will not happen..."
I thought that citing time spiral block as pie-defining was the leading criterion for your own crotch-punch on these boards.
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Birds of paradice, scryb ranger, giant dustwasp, Uktabi Drake, and Patagia Viper would like to have a word with you and your incorrect statement.
Let's see. We've got
1) Birds of Paradise: a card that was cut from ninth for being too not in green's pie, as they didn't like the fact that one of green's best creatures was a flyer.
2) Scryb Ranger: a card that's in time spiral's pie, so it uses the old pie. Obvious reference to Scryb Sprites, which is a card that would not be printed today. As a rule, if it's from time spiral (especially timeshifted) and not anywhere else in standard, it's not in the color's pie. See Fledgling Mawcor for another example of this.
3) Giant Dustwasp and Ukatabi Drake: Two cards from Planar Chaos's "alternate pie". Again, if it's in Planar Chaos and not elsewhere in standard, it's probably not actually a part of that color's pie.
4) Patagia Viper. Here we have a Green Flyer, yes. But you only get the flyer if BLUE mana was spent. Effectively, this is a Blue Flyer that gives you non-flying tokens for being green. If you want the flyer part of it, you have to spend 2UG, making this not mono-green.
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Basilisk is "Whenever ~ deals combat damage to a creature, destroy that creature at end of combat." or "Whenever ~ becomes blocked by a creature, destroy that creature." The mechanic cares about combat only.
Deathtouch is "Whenever this creature deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature." It's all damage.
But you're still right, it's unlikely to see deathtouch, therefor basilisk is also unlikely.
There is one hit for deathtouch on the orb. I say it will either be this or the g/b aura.
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We should put together a list of abilities that each enemy-hybrid has.
That way, it'll be easier for us to make guesses as to each HHH creature's abilities.
It's a simple rule: Hybrid = both colors must share the ability.
Also, how do you tweak Power/Toughness? The Shadowmoor cycle was all pretty beefy- the 3/2 was the smallest, but that's because it had flying/evasion and was still aggressively Powered.
Man, if the winds up having doublestrike, it's going to be absolutely nuts with the aura, even if it's a 2/2.
Turn 3: Play the :symwr::symwr::symwr:
Turn 4: Play Scourge of the Nobilis on the :symwr::symwr::symwr:, so at this point it's already a 4/4 Doublestrike Lifelink Firebreathing. Pump it's power up 1, and it's a 5/4 Doublestrike Lifelink Firebreathing, then attack for a 10 point life-swing.
Flash, Reach
Spriggan Canopy-Guard can't be blocked except by creatures with flying.
Spriggan Canopy-Guard can't be target of spells or abilities your opponents control.
2/3
All green, all blue, flying in every way but the name, and annoying as hell to deal with, like Silhana Ledgewalker but worse.
Birds of paradice, scryb ranger, giant dustwasp, Uktabi Drake, and Patagia Viper would like to have a word with you and your incorrect statement.
Using Planar Chaos, or any card from Time Spiral cycle, to justify a mechanic as being "in-color" is a very poor thing to do. The whole block uses the color pie VEEEEEEERY loosely. People need to stop citing it as an example.
Birds of Paradise is a very old card, and a rare exception.
Patagia Viper is a terrible example. The whole cycle of creatures that it comes from specifically have off-color stats, because you can't use the creature without the appropriate color mana. Crypt Champion doesn't mean Black gets double strike now.
As for completing the cycle, I'm looking forward to it but it might not end up being what we think. Yes, Rosewater posted those ideas and they do match with their colors. But they don't exactly have to go that route.
I'm not saying we're gonna see the U/G creature have flying and lifelink or anthing like that. But they could always do other stuff.
Basilisk is deathtouch.
(W/B)(W/B)(W/B)
Creature - Kithkin Cleric
Lifelink
3/3
(U/R)(U/R)(U/R)
Creature - Elemental Wizard
{T}: ~ deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
1/1
(B/G)(B/G)(B/G)
Creature - Elf Shaman
Persist
When ~ comes into play return target creature from your graveyard to your hand.
2/2
-vs-
(B/G)(B/G)(B/G)
Creature - Elf Shaman
(B/G) : Regenerate
3/3
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W)
Creature - Kithkin Soldier
Doublestrike
2/3
(G/U)(G/U)(G/U)
Creature - Elf Merfolk Soldier
Flash, Shroud
3/3
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Creature- Kithkin Soldier
Haste, First Strike
3/1
Breathless Legion :symbw::symbw::symbw:
Creature- Merfolk Zombie
Fear, Vigilance
3/3
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Creature- Faerie Rogue
Flash, Flying
When ~ comes into play, draw a card.
2/2
Cinder Firefighter :symur::symur::symur:
Creature- Elemental Wizard
:symur:, :symtap:: ~ deals 1 damage to target creature.
:symur:, :symq:: ~ deals 1 damage to target player.
1/1
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Creature- Goblin Zombie
Persist, Deathtouch
2/2
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Creature - Zombie Shaman
Persist
When Nightrite Hag comes into play, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
2/2
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i like it more as
Trollish Troll :symbg::symbg::symbg:
Creature- Troll
If Trollish Troll would be destroyed, Regenerate it.
3/2
i like
It won't be an Elf Merfolk. Just a Merfolk or an Elf.
Posted by: Tay Collins | January 20, 2010 6:45 AM
Tay, that's not evolution. It's metamorphosis. Evolution means descent with heritable modification – individuals cannot evolve, unless they're Pokemon.
Posted by: David Marjanović | January 20, 2010 8:55 AM
The ressurrection of panda aggro:
(W/B)(W/B)(W/B)
Creature - Kithkin Cleric
Lifelink
3/4
(U/R)(U/R)(U/R)
Creature - Elemental Wizard
Some new ability like Ram-gang had Wither.
?/?
(B/G)(B/G)(B/G)
Creature - Elf Shaman
Persist, Deathtouch
3/2
Agreed on:
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W)
Creature - Kithkin Soldier
Doublestrike
2/3
UBB Rogues
UUB Faeries
RW Seismic Swans
RRR Control
Lite-Clique Meddling - :symru::symru::symru:
Sorcery
Each player shuffles his or her hand into his or her library and draws seven cards.
Malice of the Duergar - :symwb::symwb::symwb:
Enchantment
As long as a player controls a green permanent, creatures you control get +1/+1.
As long as a player controls a red permanent, creatures you control get +1/+1.
Flash/shroud
When this comes into play draw a card.
2/2
All are green and blue and make sence by paying three of one color.
I also think that the (B/W) creature will have Fear or first strike + lifelink.
And for (U/R) since it seems a little out of place.. Here is my take:
Instants and Sorcerys cost you (U/R) less to play.
1/1
You are on to something here! Let me think of what I can come up with just something on the fly..
(U/G)(U/G)(U/G)
Sorcery
Draw 4 Cards
(R/U)(R/U)(R/U)
Sorcery
Search your library for an instant and a sorcery card. Put these cards in your hand.
(R/W)(R/W)(R/W)
Sorcery
Destroy all Artifacts and Enchantments target player controls.
(B/W)(B/W)(B/W)
Instant
Destroy target tapped creature, gain life equal to it's power.
(G/B)(G/B)(G/B)
Instant
Creatures you control get +2/+2 and have 0: regenerate this, until end of turn.
I am undecided here.
Red can't kill enchantments.
Not bad. I could dig this.
No way. Not going to happen.
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The Spell version rock, except the red/white... that's a bad card. The g/u & u/r are so broken... I love them so much. The u/r you search out a counter and another of the u/r so nice
My new guess on the (B/G) creature
(B/G)(B/G)(B/G)
Creature - Elf Shaman
Deathtouch
(B/G) : Regenerate ~
3/2
Or something with the new Retrace ability that fells very (B/G) to me.
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No, you are very wrong because of several reasons:
1. The lieges' rare, this cycle is uncommon.
2. There probably won't be lieges in shadowmoor - check the orb results.
3. It wouldn't make sense to continue a cycle in place of another cycle. Then the idea of a CYCLE would vanish.
You say "It makes all senses" - I say "It makes absolutely no sense at all, and will not happen..."
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i thought so too until someone pointed out that w/b w/b w/b appears 4 times on the orb so there's hope
O RLY!?! http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?&id=124343
Birds of paradice, scryb ranger, giant dustwasp, Uktabi Drake, and Patagia Viper would like to have a word with you and your incorrect statement.
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Thanks mchief111 for the avvy.
Let's see. We've got
1) Birds of Paradise: a card that was cut from ninth for being too not in green's pie, as they didn't like the fact that one of green's best creatures was a flyer.
2) Scryb Ranger: a card that's in time spiral's pie, so it uses the old pie. Obvious reference to Scryb Sprites, which is a card that would not be printed today. As a rule, if it's from time spiral (especially timeshifted) and not anywhere else in standard, it's not in the color's pie. See Fledgling Mawcor for another example of this.
3) Giant Dustwasp and Ukatabi Drake: Two cards from Planar Chaos's "alternate pie". Again, if it's in Planar Chaos and not elsewhere in standard, it's probably not actually a part of that color's pie.
4) Patagia Viper. Here we have a Green Flyer, yes. But you only get the flyer if BLUE mana was spent. Effectively, this is a Blue Flyer that gives you non-flying tokens for being green. If you want the flyer part of it, you have to spend 2UG, making this not mono-green.
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There is one hit for deathtouch on the orb. I say it will either be this or the g/b aura.
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"Something, something something, DARK SIDE!
Something, something, something COMPLETE!"
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That way, it'll be easier for us to make guesses as to each HHH creature's abilities.
It's a simple rule: Hybrid = both colors must share the ability.
- Lifelink
- Deathtouch, Regenerate
- Flash, Shroud, card draw
- ?
- First Strike, Double Strike
Anything else?
Also, how do you tweak Power/Toughness? The Shadowmoor cycle was all pretty beefy- the 3/2 was the smallest, but that's because it had flying/evasion and was still aggressively Powered.
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Draws: 0
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http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=130479&page=3
Turn 3: Play the :symwr::symwr::symwr:
Turn 4: Play Scourge of the Nobilis on the :symwr::symwr::symwr:, so at this point it's already a 4/4 Doublestrike Lifelink Firebreathing. Pump it's power up 1, and it's a 5/4 Doublestrike Lifelink Firebreathing, then attack for a 10 point life-swing.
In other news, here's an idea for the
Spriggan Canopy-Guard - :symgu::symgu::symgu:
Creature - Goblin Shaman
Flash, Reach
Spriggan Canopy-Guard can't be blocked except by creatures with flying.
Spriggan Canopy-Guard can't be target of spells or abilities your opponents control.
2/3
All green, all blue, flying in every way but the name, and annoying as hell to deal with, like Silhana Ledgewalker but worse.
Using Planar Chaos, or any card from Time Spiral cycle, to justify a mechanic as being "in-color" is a very poor thing to do. The whole block uses the color pie VEEEEEEERY loosely. People need to stop citing it as an example.
Birds of Paradise is a very old card, and a rare exception.
Patagia Viper is a terrible example. The whole cycle of creatures that it comes from specifically have off-color stats, because you can't use the creature without the appropriate color mana. Crypt Champion doesn't mean Black gets double strike now.
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