Where does R&D stand on the top-of-the line utility, like Duress? We recognize its power and know that it is a necessary measure in fast formats like the current Extended. We don't want it in Standard all the time. One, its presence cuts down on our ability to try similar but less brutal cards like Distress and Blackmail. Two, when Duress is in an environment, there's pressure against complicated combo-style decks that rely on certain cards to win. We like to see such decks from time to time. Is Duress gone for good? No. Is it the best utility we'll make? Probably.
In his article, he talked about kill cards in discard decks, but he didn't mention Avatar of Wil. That means you are playing blue/black which opens up playing recoil.
On topic though, there is no way they will reprint Duress. They knew it was a mistake putting it in 7th, and its a good reason why distress is not arcane.
I bet distress will be in either 9th or 10th edition.
Duress could see reprint in a future set, perhaps when 7th rotates out of Extended or something.
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In his article, he talked about kill cards in discard decks, but he didn't mention Avatar of Wil. That means you are playing blue/black which opens up playing recoil.
On topic though, there is no way they will reprint Duress. They knew it was a mistake putting it in 7th, and its a good reason why distress is not arcane.
I bet distress will be in either 9th or 10th edition.
Clearly you are wrong and at some time they will reprint Duress. Will it be in 9th? Probably not but the will reprint it at some time.
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I figure there's a chance it could be in reprinted into an expansion set like one in Ravnica or the block after it.
I never understood why it's considered "utility". If you want a one word descriptor for Duress, I'd suggest "discard". To me, utility is a spell or a creature ability that does something for you like help your creatures, improve your draws, make your permanents more useful, etc.
Distress looks like a plant for 9th. Even money on it getting reprinted.
Duress was too good for 7th/IPA/OTJ and 7th/OTJ/OLS Standard, and is WAY too good for the current format. Duress will be in Extended for three years after October's rotation, so there's no need for it to be reprinted in 9th.
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I figure there's a chance it could be in reprinted into an expansion set like one in Ravnica or the block after it.
I never understood why it's considered "utility". If you want a one word descriptor for Duress, I'd suggest "discard". To me, utility is a spell or a creature ability that does something for you like help your creatures, improve your draws, make your permanents more useful, etc.
I always thought of utility as a small but useful effect that could fit into many different decks (providing it was the right colour of course). Adding "for you" is unnecessary IMO.
Well, I disagree, they obviously understood it's power, that's why they reprinted it in 7th along with ostracize. If you ask me, they underestimated cabal therapy. Will they reprint Duress? Most likely in 9th. Distress is only being used because it's the only thing that can even be compared to duress besides Coercion, which is a poor poor substitute. Think about it, in odessy block you had turn 1 duress, turn 2 cabal therapy, it would make more sense to give us turn 1 duress, turn 2 distress, not that I wouldn't mind cabal therapy, but they won't cater to spike much longer after they axed affinity.
I think Distress makes the reprinting of Duress impossible until 10th or the set after Ravinca. Just like how Scepter and Leak oust Counterspell (damn you WotC!).
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I'd place Duress under teh same notoriety that Hymn to Tourach got when it was around and rampant. Both are great discards and tend to be the benchmark for designing discard-esque effects. Since Hymn never saw the printing light of day again and with the way Duress seems to equal it in power, I wouldn't count on seeing Duress come back at this present moment in time.
But they've thrown curveballs at us before... :dance2:
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Hymn is way better, and Random effects are no more cause they are skill-based.
Duress should be printed because it keeps decks like TNN from getting too good.
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:: Duress should be printed because it keeps decks like TNN from getting too good.
It also hurts every other deck because of its versatility.
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Its cool that duress will/might be reprinted at some later point. That said i don't think it'll be printed in 9th since blackmails already confirmed and theres no way they'd print 2 playable(or 1 1/2 playable) 1cc black discard spells in the one base set. Its much more likely to see print in 10th or even 11th so as to keep it in the environment the next time extended rotates.
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On topic though, there is no way they will reprint Duress. They knew it was a mistake putting it in 7th, and its a good reason why distress is not arcane.
I bet distress will be in either 9th or 10th edition.
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Clearly you are wrong and at some time they will reprint Duress. Will it be in 9th? Probably not but the will reprint it at some time.
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Um... in his article, Aaron says they will reprint Duress... at some point.
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I never understood why it's considered "utility". If you want a one word descriptor for Duress, I'd suggest "discard". To me, utility is a spell or a creature ability that does something for you like help your creatures, improve your draws, make your permanents more useful, etc.
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Duress was too good for 7th/IPA/OTJ and 7th/OTJ/OLS Standard, and is WAY too good for the current format. Duress will be in Extended for three years after October's rotation, so there's no need for it to be reprinted in 9th.
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I always thought of utility as a small but useful effect that could fit into many different decks (providing it was the right colour of course). Adding "for you" is unnecessary IMO.
But they've thrown curveballs at us before... :dance2:
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Duress should be printed because it keeps decks like TNN from getting too good.
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It also hurts every other deck because of its versatility.
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Excuse me? Which requires more skill:
a) Looking through an opponent's hand and selecting the card who's loss will hurt the opponent the most.
OR
b) Having your opponent randomly discard a card.
I cannot see how skill could even be considered as a factor to remove random discard.
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