last time i did this was after CHK came out, and it was about BOK.
so what do i think will be in Saviours? hmm.
more Mulitcolored cards i think, expecially multi-colored spirits.
Samurai Spirits i belive will make an appearence, and ninjas with more awsome abilities.
michiko might appear on a card, as she does appear as the cover, it does seem logical, but had i read the books i would try to predict what abilities she would have.
Another thing is an idea that they might do for flip cards (not sure i have heard it somewhere before... but i have thought about it.) is a card starts as one color, and flips and becomes another color ala:
Nightstrider Ronin 3BB
Creature - human samurai
Bushido 2, first-strike
BB: Target creature gets fear until end of turn
whenever damage is delt to nightstrider Ronin, flip it at the end of the turn.
2/1
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Inae, the changed heart
Legendary Creature - human samurai
Bushido 3, Double Strike
XW: Redirect X damage to Inae, the changed heart, you gain that much life.
4/5
and perhaps terashi as a creature, this time i will take a stab at guessing what he does:
Terashi, Kami of the Sun 4WWW
Whenever you play a spirit or arcane spell, you may tap up to X creatures where X is that spell's Coverted Casting Cost.
5/6
meh, so ends this post on my Saviors of Kamigawa Prediction thread. if i think of other plauseable stuff, i may post those if i feel like it and if it is easy to find this thread again.
the Samurai looks intresting... and the sun Kami won't see print, it if did... it would be a LOT bigger... perhaps I'll post a card for it later... and it's about time their was a fellow Kitsune freak...
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O-Kagachi WWWUUUBBBRRRGGG Legendery Creature-Spirit Whenever you play a spirit or arcane spell, you win the game. :tongue2: Whenever ~ is put into a graveyard, shuffle it into your library. 20/20
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You forgot to mention WHOSE graveyard
"Haha! I make you discard O-Kagachi! Now I get it!"
(Yes I know that won't be O-Kagachi, if there even is a card for him.)
Takeno, spirit of Takeno who thinks he is on the good side of the war but is clearly helping the evil side of war along with Konda WWBB
Legendary creature-Confused samurai spirit
Bushido 2
Whenever a you play a black arcane or spirit card on their turn, give control of ~ to another player. Whenever a player plays a white arcane or spirit card on their turn, that player gains control of ~.
BB:~ gets +2-1 until the end of turn
WW:~ gets -2+1 until end of turn
O-Kagachi, Sun Kami :symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: Legendary Creature - Spirit (R, premium only) Indistructable, Flying, Trample, Fear When you play O-Kagachi, Sun Kami discard your hand, remove your graveyard from the game and lose 10 life. O-Kagachi can't be sacrificed. O-Kagachi can't be the target of opponents spells or abilities. 15/15
their ya go.. big powerful, Auto-game winner powerful abilities, drawbacks... and unplayable except in re-animation... enjoy Timmys... (but ya... if he's so powerful and Uber... this is what I think his card would look like. (tons o' text...)
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When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block. "Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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O-Kagachi, Sun Kami :symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: Legendary Creature - Spirit (R, premium only) Indistructable, Flying, Trample, Fear When you play O-Kagachi, Sun Kami discard your hand, remove your graveyard from the game and lose 10 life. O-Kagachi can't be sacrificed. O-Kagachi can't be the target of opponents spells or abilities. 15/15
their ya go.. big powerful, Auto-game winner powerful abilities, drawbacks... and unplayable except in re-animation... enjoy Timmys... (but ya... if he's so powerful and Uber... this is what I think his card would look like. (tons o' text...)
terashi was the sun kami, wasn't he?
and i doubt o-kagachi will make it to a card, i think he is about as powerful as the plainswalkers in the storyline, hence why he (and urza, and every other planeswalker) will not see card print.
EDIT 1: hooray for kitsune fanatics eh snow-fur?
EDIT 2: Final judgement may technically be the only o-kagachi card made... (just like kodama's might and kodama's growth were the cards for the east and west kodamas)
I'm almost positive we'll see "Umezawa's Katana" in the next set, and "Masako's Hairbrush" look at the flavor text of the card "Ornate Kanzashi" to get what I'm talking about.:p
We need some really small demons though. Two and three drop demons. Michiko will probally be made into a card as well, and will probally be white, and have an extremely watered down version of "One of the most powerful white spells ever printed" just as Toshi had a watered down version of "One of blacks most powerful spells ever printed".
That is odd, I must say.
Masako's hairbrush! WHEE!!! Also, I think the other two kodamas may show up. Maybe. I don't know. I find the flavor text of the kanzashi very odd, actually. The two statements have nothing to do with each other unless you read between the lines somewhat.
Well I woulden't be supprised to see the princess have an ability similer to Balence... :/
.. and yes... Kitsune rock my collective sox.
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When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block. "Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
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Samurai Spirits are a given. About Twenty of Konda's men are still alive after Betrayers, so white really has no option except Samurai Spirits.
A black Konda, or gold W/B Konda, is not out of line. He is, after all, very selfish for a color all about justice.
Changing-color flip cards were actually something I expected in Betrayers. I'm not sure how those would work, but I think we'll see one or two.
Blue should get at least one "Soratami Samurai," although green will most likely get few more.
Soratami Ronin UU2
Creature- Moonfolk Samurai
Bushido 1
Flying
1, return an untapped land you control to it's owners hand: Tap or untap target creature.
Bushido X will be more quantiful in Saviors. Example:
Aseno, Vengeful Samurai WW3
Legendary Creature- Human Samurai
Bushido X, where X is the number of cards in your graveyard.
Aseno may block any number of creatures.
3/4
Just an example...
Splice will begin to be possible for the humans. Possible name: Splice onto non-arcane.
Takeno's Boon W1
Instant
Target player gains 5 life.
Splice onto non-arcane- W2
We will probably get a Captain Okrabawa card(don't know name, but highest ranked surviving samurai).
Mochi will come. Don't know how, but he will.
Some way to destroy Konda will come, that singularily targets Konda or another indestructible creature.
Day of Reckoning W
Instant
Remove target indestructible creature from the game.
Just some guesses... that last one seems the least likely to me. And I hope we get a spirit Takeno who's playable: He's my favorite character in Kamigawa, and I would love to put him in a playable deck.
Here's hoping white gets good samurai in "Saviors!"
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"But speaking of O-Kagachi, I can tell you that he'll be making an appearance in the material world of Kamigawa, and needless to say, he will not be happy. Though he will not appear as his own card (he's just too immense and all-encompassing to be a Magic card)"
I would like to see more demons and i think that color switching flip cards might make an apearence!
Come to think of it: the fan could be an excellent expansion-symbol, but they could use Konda's symbol (as shown on Michiko's kimono) as well.
I read that classical naginata styles are practiced as prearranged choreographed forms (kata), often performed at great speed and strength, and always with great precision.
Kata might influence (or be one of the) the new keyword-mechanics
O-Kagachi, Sun Kami :symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: Legendary Creature - Spirit (R, premium only) Indistructable, Flying, Trample, Fear When you play O-Kagachi, Sun Kami discard your hand, remove your graveyard from the game and lose 10 life. O-Kagachi can't be sacrificed. O-Kagachi can't be the target of opponents spells or abilities. 15/15
their ya go.. big powerful, Auto-game winner powerful abilities, drawbacks... and unplayable except in re-animation... enjoy Timmys... (but ya... if he's so powerful and Uber... this is what I think his card would look like. (tons o' text...)
Something like that would BREAK my KBC Reanimator deck. Plain and simple.
Me on turn 2: "I play Time of Need, putting O-Kagachi into my hand."
Opponent: "Ha, you're playing with crap like this? This should be easy."
Me on turn 3: "I play Slumbering Tora."
Opponent: "Meh, you get a one-turn9/9. Whoop dee doo."
Me on turn 4: "I pitch O-Kagachi to Tora."
Opponent: "Oh no, a 9/9. It doesn't even have Trample."
Me: "I play Goryu's Vengeance."
Opponent: "......crap."
Flip creatures that change color would be pretty strange, IMO. Not sure is the text to explain the color change could fit in the text box. "~card name~ is ~color~ and is not ~color~" Plus whatever abilites the Hero has that makes it special.
- Michiko will make an appearance. Prolly as a moral booster for Samurai.
- Betrayers is thé Nintjutsu set. It has a shuriken as expantion symbol. Íf Saviours will have Ninja´s it would be 2, 3 tops.
- A lot of spirit hate.
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Hmm. I think we'll only see about four Ninjas in Saviors, with alternative Ninjutsu costs.
Likely sacrifice and life payment for black and discarding and multi-creature bounce for blue.
I think we're likely to see one last cyle of Flip cards. Probably Rare. First flips happened if you could get something done, second happened after time, I think the third you'll be able to control.
Might even be Legendary-to-Legendary, showing the effects the Kami War has had on people. (Doubtful).
Likely a Splice onto Arcane hoser.
Likely few Akki, Nezumi, Kitsune, etc.
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O-Kagachi, Sun Kami :symw::symu::symb::symr::symg: Legendary Creature - Spirit (R, premium only) Indistructable, Flying, Trample, Fear When you play O-Kagachi, Sun Kami discard your hand, remove your graveyard from the game and lose 10 life. O-Kagachi can't be sacrificed. O-Kagachi can't be the target of opponents spells or abilities. 15/15
You forgot haste. And cant be removed.
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I don't know about that. There will be more white samurai than just Konda's men.
Ok, yeah, Kitsune Samurai will most likely still be present. However, since white seems to not like Ronin, and it is the only color with a real master for Samurai to serve, I just imagine the vast majority of Samurai will be either black, red, or spirits. Of course, there's always the possibility that I'm wrong.
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I wouldn't put money on that one. It's not exactly likely, but several legends, among them Balfour, who got a red and black card in the same block, have seen two cards to reflect a change of heart. I'm not going to throw it out as a possibilty yet, but you are right that it is unlikely.
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This will not happen. There isn't enough room in a flip card's text box to explain a colour change, and they can't use a hybrid frame because it would be too confusing.
Allright, you're probably/ most certainly right there. However, I would not rule out Green flip cards that flip into, say, black abilities.
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Maybe a blue Legendary Samurai, but I think green has had the one samurai it's going to get.
Yes, samurai don't make much sense in Green. However, there are several referances to samurai soratami in the "Champions" book, so I think that blue will get more than one. A legendary one seems very likely, and probably a non-legendary one at each rarity, except rare, which has the legendary one.
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There may be one more card with bushido X.
One seems very likely. I would say that more will appear, however, unless wizards decides to actually print cards with bushido 3 or 4. They've got to vary that mechanic SOMEHOW...
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This won't happen either. I know affinity branched out into affinity for basic land types, but that's different. Thematically, the non-spirits have abilities that affect permanents while the spirits have abilities that affect cards out of play. Mental manipulation effects like splice are out of theme for non-spirits.
Allright, you got me there. The "splice onto non-arcane" will most likely not exist.
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Yeah, but that was the one I was least certain on... It's probably not going to happen.
On a side note, what are the three? Reciprocate, Final Judgement, and... What?
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so what do i think will be in Saviours? hmm.
more Mulitcolored cards i think, expecially multi-colored spirits.
Samurai Spirits i belive will make an appearence, and ninjas with more awsome abilities.
michiko might appear on a card, as she does appear as the cover, it does seem logical, but had i read the books i would try to predict what abilities she would have.
Another thing is an idea that they might do for flip cards (not sure i have heard it somewhere before... but i have thought about it.) is a card starts as one color, and flips and becomes another color ala:
Nightstrider Ronin 3BB
Creature - human samurai
Bushido 2, first-strike
BB: Target creature gets fear until end of turn
whenever damage is delt to nightstrider Ronin, flip it at the end of the turn.
2/1
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Inae, the changed heart
Legendary Creature - human samurai
Bushido 3, Double Strike
XW: Redirect X damage to Inae, the changed heart, you gain that much life.
4/5
and perhaps terashi as a creature, this time i will take a stab at guessing what he does:
Terashi, Kami of the Sun 4WWW
Whenever you play a spirit or arcane spell, you may tap up to X creatures where X is that spell's Coverted Casting Cost.
5/6
meh, so ends this post on my Saviors of Kamigawa Prediction thread. if i think of other plauseable stuff, i may post those if i feel like it and if it is easy to find this thread again.
it's a prediction thread... they are just examples.
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"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
O-Kagachi WWWUUUBBBRRRGGG
Legendery Creature-Spirit
Whenever you play a spirit or arcane spell, you win the game. :tongue2:
Whenever ~ is put into a graveyard, shuffle it into your library.
20/20
Seconded.
You forgot to mention WHOSE graveyard
"Haha! I make you discard O-Kagachi! Now I get it!"
(Yes I know that won't be O-Kagachi, if there even is a card for him.)
Legendary creature-Confused samurai spirit
Bushido 2
Whenever a you play a black arcane or spirit card on their turn, give control of ~ to another player. Whenever a player plays a white arcane or spirit card on their turn, that player gains control of ~.
BB:~ gets +2-1 until the end of turn
WW:~ gets -2+1 until end of turn
2/1
Legendary Creature - Spirit (R, premium only)
Indistructable, Flying, Trample, Fear
When you play O-Kagachi, Sun Kami discard your hand, remove your graveyard from the game and lose 10 life.
O-Kagachi can't be sacrificed.
O-Kagachi can't be the target of opponents spells or abilities.
15/15
their ya go.. big powerful, Auto-game winner powerful abilities, drawbacks... and unplayable except in re-animation... enjoy Timmys... (but ya... if he's so powerful and Uber... this is what I think his card would look like. (tons o' text...)
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Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
terashi was the sun kami, wasn't he?
and i doubt o-kagachi will make it to a card, i think he is about as powerful as the plainswalkers in the storyline, hence why he (and urza, and every other planeswalker) will not see card print.
EDIT 1: hooray for kitsune fanatics eh snow-fur?
EDIT 2: Final judgement may technically be the only o-kagachi card made... (just like kodama's might and kodama's growth were the cards for the east and west kodamas)
We need some really small demons though. Two and three drop demons. Michiko will probally be made into a card as well, and will probally be white, and have an extremely watered down version of "One of the most powerful white spells ever printed" just as Toshi had a watered down version of "One of blacks most powerful spells ever printed".
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That is odd, I must say.
Masako's hairbrush! WHEE!!! Also, I think the other two kodamas may show up. Maybe. I don't know. I find the flavor text of the kanzashi very odd, actually. The two statements have nothing to do with each other unless you read between the lines somewhat.
.. and yes... Kitsune rock my collective sox.
Legendary Creature – Human Designer (MR)
Brian Tinsman, Set Designer can only be cast during the third set of a block.
When Brian Tinsman, Set Designer enters the battlefield, ignore all flavor and mechanics of the first two sets in the block.
"Ok so what do we have here... gothic horror? Scrap it. Expand the Devine Vs. Demonic duel deck to 244 cards and print it!"
2/2
Samurai Spirits are a given. About Twenty of Konda's men are still alive after Betrayers, so white really has no option except Samurai Spirits.
A black Konda, or gold W/B Konda, is not out of line. He is, after all, very selfish for a color all about justice.
Changing-color flip cards were actually something I expected in Betrayers. I'm not sure how those would work, but I think we'll see one or two.
Blue should get at least one "Soratami Samurai," although green will most likely get few more.
Soratami Ronin UU2
Creature- Moonfolk Samurai
Bushido 1
Flying
1, return an untapped land you control to it's owners hand: Tap or untap target creature.
Bushido X will be more quantiful in Saviors. Example:
Aseno, Vengeful Samurai WW3
Legendary Creature- Human Samurai
Bushido X, where X is the number of cards in your graveyard.
Aseno may block any number of creatures.
3/4
Just an example...
Splice will begin to be possible for the humans. Possible name: Splice onto non-arcane.
Takeno's Boon W1
Instant
Target player gains 5 life.
Splice onto non-arcane- W2
We will probably get a Captain Okrabawa card(don't know name, but highest ranked surviving samurai).
Mochi will come. Don't know how, but he will.
Some way to destroy Konda will come, that singularily targets Konda or another indestructible creature.
Day of Reckoning W
Instant
Remove target indestructible creature from the game.
Just some guesses... that last one seems the least likely to me. And I hope we get a spirit Takeno who's playable: He's my favorite character in Kamigawa, and I would love to put him in a playable deck.
Here's hoping white gets good samurai in "Saviors!"
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I would like to see more demons and i think that color switching flip cards might make an apearence!
Betrayers are dead, long live Saviors!
The cover of the book is always a card-art, so Michiko is a given
Her weapons, a fighting fan ( http://www.gungfu.com/cart-htm/weapons_chinese_weapons_fans.htm ) and a naginata ( http://www.naginata.org/background.html ), might appear as artifact-equipment
Come to think of it: the fan could be an excellent expansion-symbol, but they could use Konda's symbol (as shown on Michiko's kimono) as well.
I read that classical naginata styles are practiced as prearranged choreographed forms (kata), often performed at great speed and strength, and always with great precision.
Kata might influence (or be one of the) the new keyword-mechanics
Something like that would BREAK my KBC Reanimator deck. Plain and simple.
Me on turn 2: "I play Time of Need, putting O-Kagachi into my hand."
Opponent: "Ha, you're playing with crap like this? This should be easy."
Me on turn 3: "I play Slumbering Tora."
Opponent: "Meh, you get a one-turn9/9. Whoop dee doo."
Me on turn 4: "I pitch O-Kagachi to Tora."
Opponent: "Oh no, a 9/9. It doesn't even have Trample."
Me: "I play Goryu's Vengeance."
Opponent: "......crap."
- Michiko will make an appearance. Prolly as a moral booster for Samurai.
- Betrayers is thé Nintjutsu set. It has a shuriken as expantion symbol. Íf Saviours will have Ninja´s it would be 2, 3 tops.
- A lot of spirit hate.
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Likely sacrifice and life payment for black and discarding and multi-creature bounce for blue.
I think we're likely to see one last cyle of Flip cards. Probably Rare. First flips happened if you could get something done, second happened after time, I think the third you'll be able to control.
Might even be Legendary-to-Legendary, showing the effects the Kami War has had on people. (Doubtful).
Likely a Splice onto Arcane hoser.
Likely few Akki, Nezumi, Kitsune, etc.
Hay guyz whats a Kentaro?
You forgot haste. And cant be removed.
EDIT: I know it isn't being printed, ok?
Kentaro is a name. Simple as that.
Ok, yeah, Kitsune Samurai will most likely still be present. However, since white seems to not like Ronin, and it is the only color with a real master for Samurai to serve, I just imagine the vast majority of Samurai will be either black, red, or spirits. Of course, there's always the possibility that I'm wrong.
I wouldn't put money on that one. It's not exactly likely, but several legends, among them Balfour, who got a red and black card in the same block, have seen two cards to reflect a change of heart. I'm not going to throw it out as a possibilty yet, but you are right that it is unlikely.
Allright, you're probably/ most certainly right there. However, I would not rule out Green flip cards that flip into, say, black abilities.
Yes, samurai don't make much sense in Green. However, there are several referances to samurai soratami in the "Champions" book, so I think that blue will get more than one. A legendary one seems very likely, and probably a non-legendary one at each rarity, except rare, which has the legendary one.
One seems very likely. I would say that more will appear, however, unless wizards decides to actually print cards with bushido 3 or 4. They've got to vary that mechanic SOMEHOW...
Allright, you got me there. The "splice onto non-arcane" will most likely not exist.
Yeah, but that was the one I was least certain on... It's probably not going to happen.
On a side note, what are the three? Reciprocate, Final Judgement, and... What?
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