Final Judgment - 4WW
Sorcery (R)
Remove all creatures from the game.
and the Splinter reprint...
will we be seeing a white Tooth varient using white Myojins and Wrath Of Gods thrown in for annoyance factor? a little mana excell makes it look very possible.
Don't know if white will "rule" all, but if cards like Final Judgement keep coming then just maybe. I mean, Final Judgement added an insane amount of power to U/W control.
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they wont use t&n with the white myojin because THEY DONT WORK TOGETHER. t&n puts them into play, but since they aren't "played" they dont get a divinity counter.
And genjus+ darksteel citadel doesnt work either. why? genjus says "enchant MOUNTAIN". last time i checked citadel wasnt a mountain
Except then the Citadel isn't indestructible, which kinda defeats the purpose.
"212.6e If an effect changes a land’s type to one of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses any rules text it had in its text box, other than the rules text for the snow-covered ability, and it gains the rules text for the appropriate mana ability for that basic land type. Note that this doesn’t remove any abilities that were granted to the land by other effects. Changing a land’s type doesn’t add or remove any types (such as creature) or supertypes (such as basic and legendary) the land may have. If a land gains one or more land types in addition to its own, it keeps its land types and rules text, and it gains the new land types and mana abilities."
Except then the Citadel isn't indestructible, which kinda defeats the purpose.
"212.6e If an effect changes a land’s type to one of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses any rules text it had in its text box, other than the rules text for the snow-covered ability, and it gains the rules text for the appropriate mana ability for that basic land type. Note that this doesn’t remove any abilities that were granted to the land by other effects. Changing a land’s type doesn’t add or remove any types (such as creature) or supertypes (such as basic and legendary) the land may have. If a land gains one or more land types in addition to its own, it keeps its land types and rules text, and it gains the new land types and mana abilities."
doh.. forgot about that. was gettin too optimistic. (edited, nm.. answer was in 212.6e) (need MORE coffee this morning)
White still has nothing new and useful in its color pie that would make white weenie useful again. That being said, I'd sideboard one or two Final Judgment and sideboard Terashi's Grasp. I don't know if MWC can be useful.
Yes, the south will rule again. But thats only my speculation. since we only have about 37 cards in the spoiler I will say this, Kamigawa will probably not havean aggro metagame.
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White still has nothing new and useful in its color pie that would make white weenie useful again.
well keep in mind not to believe the stereotype that all white players play only weenie decks. i have 5 decks, and everyone is splashed or is mono white. none of them are weenie.
i will say however that Patron of the Kitsune could find itself in some weenie decks just based on it's instant speed and the 1 life gain for each attacker.
with mana accell or chrome mox, you could easily see a 5/6 by turn 3.
Lands don't untap during their controller's untap steps.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps a land he or she controls.
2/2
okay... that does it. i'm drafting as much white as i can at pre-release. JEEZ! it confirms the "Winter Orb" type card we were speculating about... but this is INSANE. throw some greaves on this puppy... play it in extended with Seedbourne Muse... the only problem i see is getting around the effects yourself in type 2...
BoK has ninjas in it.
All the ninjas are B or U
Therefore this set must be heavy B and U.
Did you notice that CoK had samurais in it? Really, it did. You can check.
Was CoK R/W heavy? It must have been afterall all the samurai were either red or white (by all I mean most... there is always exceptions).
I just realized im getting cynical... I must be tired. That's how I can tell.
His logic is flawed yes, but black had samurai too. Just a note. As for white, it isn't too bad at the moment, but I can't say I'd like it so. White is just too structured for me.
Well, white weenie gets a big boost in the form of captain WOrb on a stick, which basically provides an armageddon that beats for two, making it the great top of the curve. Unfortunately white still lacks solid 3 drops. All I can think of are Glorious Anthem (which is... kinda meh IMO), Grafted Wargear (decent, but gets you 241'd), and Razor Golem (3/4 vig for WWW? I'll take it!).
White control gets Final Judgement and Terashi's Grasp, both of which are highly useful. White control also got tremendous boosts from CHK in the form of Ghostly Prison, Reciprocate, and Samurai of the Pale Curtain (basicly to affinity what Silver Knight in MWC was to Goblins). It has multiple win conditions (a must in the days of Extraction and its upcoming BOK reprint brothers) such as Pristine Angel, Yosei, Konda, Mindslaver, Myr Matrix (awesome against the mirror), and even Serra Angel. Pulse of the Fields is still one of the most ridiculous cards of all time, basically making you immortal as long as you can hold onto it.
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i haven't looked at the confirmed card list for a while, so I dunno what white is packing yet... Though this one (BoK) will probably be more B/U heavy and continue the Arcane fun that I have with burn right now
i don't think there will be a 'strong' white deck when BoK comes out, but I think when the 3rd set comes out then white will get it's power (only a guess though)
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i haven't looked at the confirmed card list for a while, so I dunno what white is packing yet... i don't think there will be a 'strong' white deck when BoK comes out, but I think when the 3rd set comes out then white will get it's power (only a guess though)
Final Judgment - 4WW
Sorcery (R)
Remove all creatures from the game.
and the Splinter reprint...
will we be seeing a white Tooth varient using white Myojins and Wrath Of Gods thrown in for annoyance factor? a little mana excell makes it look very possible.
see where i'm going with this?
Personally, I'd much rather see the Return of Armageddon + let have the Aggro Deck to Beat for a season or two.
yeah sorry i put this thread here in the Mill... but i didn't want those not wanting to know about BOK cards to stumble onto it.
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And genjus+ darksteel citadel doesnt work either. why? genjus says "enchant MOUNTAIN". last time i checked citadel wasnt a mountain
Just play Blood Moon. Hell, mono-red obliterate might be an idea.
Except then the Citadel isn't indestructible, which kinda defeats the purpose.
"212.6e If an effect changes a land’s type to one of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses any rules text it had in its text box, other than the rules text for the snow-covered ability, and it gains the rules text for the appropriate mana ability for that basic land type. Note that this doesn’t remove any abilities that were granted to the land by other effects. Changing a land’s type doesn’t add or remove any types (such as creature) or supertypes (such as basic and legendary) the land may have. If a land gains one or more land types in addition to its own, it keeps its land types and rules text, and it gains the new land types and mana abilities."
...at which point it will just be a regular, destructible mountain.
doh.. forgot about that. was gettin too optimistic. (edited, nm.. answer was in 212.6e) (need MORE coffee this morning)
A 6cc sorcery won't make the deck good.
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Both: Just the tip!
WTF
Lets follow this train of logic shall we?
BoK has ninjas in it.
All the ninjas are B or U
Therefore this set must be heavy B and U.
Did you notice that CoK had samurais in it? Really, it did. You can check.
Was CoK R/W heavy? It must have been afterall all the samurai were either red or white (by all I mean most... there is always exceptions).
I just realized im getting cynical... I must be tired. That's how I can tell.
well keep in mind not to believe the stereotype that all white players play only weenie decks. i have 5 decks, and everyone is splashed or is mono white. none of them are weenie.
i will say however that Patron of the Kitsune could find itself in some weenie decks just based on it's instant speed and the 1 life gain for each attacker.
with mana accell or chrome mox, you could easily see a 5/6 by turn 3.
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Lands don't untap during their controller's untap steps.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps a land he or she controls.
2/2
okay... that does it. i'm drafting as much white as i can at pre-release. JEEZ! it confirms the "Winter Orb" type card we were speculating about... but this is INSANE. throw some greaves on this puppy... play it in extended with Seedbourne Muse... the only problem i see is getting around the effects yourself in type 2...
His logic is flawed yes, but black had samurai too. Just a note. As for white, it isn't too bad at the moment, but I can't say I'd like it so. White is just too structured for me.
White control gets Final Judgement and Terashi's Grasp, both of which are highly useful. White control also got tremendous boosts from CHK in the form of Ghostly Prison, Reciprocate, and Samurai of the Pale Curtain (basicly to affinity what Silver Knight in MWC was to Goblins). It has multiple win conditions (a must in the days of Extraction and its upcoming BOK reprint brothers) such as Pristine Angel, Yosei, Konda, Mindslaver, Myr Matrix (awesome against the mirror), and even Serra Angel. Pulse of the Fields is still one of the most ridiculous cards of all time, basically making you immortal as long as you can hold onto it.
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i don't think there will be a 'strong' white deck when BoK comes out, but I think when the 3rd set comes out then white will get it's power (only a guess though)
you should check out the spoiler list. *drools*