Here again, a list showing up how are the initial prices showing up. Some of them are pretty obvious, and some of them are traps. We still have a long way to go, but then. Here we are:
10.- Underworld Cerberus $9.99: Nice body and pseudo-unblockable. We don't know how useful will be its graveyard lock, but its ability when it dies seems like an awesome way to keep on the pressure after wrath. Aggro decks would love this, giving them a chance for mid-game.
9.- Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx $9.99: In my humble opinion, this is a card that must be followed-up closely, it has a lot of potential for more formats than standard. Monocolored EDH decks will love this, and gruul ones too with BTE still active. I'm sure it will increase on price.
8.- Nylea, God of the Hunt $14.99: It seems a good card, but it only works well if you're able to have the devotion, which luckily, doesn't seem to be a problem for green. I don't think this card will keep its price, it will lower down for sure, but time will tell.
7.- Erebos, God of the Dead $19.99: Most of the time, it will be Greed in a shell. Although this is a good card, the price isn't worth it, so I think it will lower down too.
6.- Elspeth, Sun's Champion $24.99: A pretty nice planeswalker which can end games by herself. She can work as a pseudo-wrath or as pressure. For its cmc, maybe it will go to $15 someday, but playability will tell.
5.- Purphoros, God of the Forge $24.99: Many persons consider this the best god among the five, and they are right. Its ability is in the proper color, and monored aggro will thank this a lot. Not many problems to become a creature, and the ability is good by itself. It may stay like this.
4.- Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver $24.99: Planeswalker usually go around this price when released, and them they lower down. Ashiok may see a fate between $10 and $18, because, although is not a bad planeswalker, its standard playability is still kind of questionable.
3.-Stormbreath Dragon $24.99: Many say this is Thundermaw Hellkite substitute, and it is not very far from it. Is a very playable dragon, which can hurt against control decks with its monstruosity. It will keep the price as long as it stays on standard, or settle up in $30. Hard to tell, since -1/-1 compared with its ancestor is something to think about.
2.- Thoughtseize $29.99: It will increase, but won't be instantly. Probably after rotation. I may expect this one to be on $15 (at the very least) until the next expansion, but it could see and stay at $25. Then it will be increasing eventually again. Reprinted cards usually reach almost the same price as their antecesors, just a little lower.
1.- Xenagos, the Reveler $39.99: The chase mythic right now. Gaea's Cradle in a stick with a little more versatility, or a hasty token's generator, both skill are awesome indeed. It will barely see its ultimate, since almost all the time you're making tokens, and sometimes adding more mana for heavy stuff. Pretty nice card, with uncertain future after rotation. If it manages to be playable in modern, it will stay in price for sure.
The problem with devotion is it really plays into the control deck's hands. We don't have undying to help trigger devotion, and enchantment removal outside of D-sphere is questionable at best. So to use it it really wants you to overextend.
As such i think as good as the God's are they may be a bit slow, and not do enough. Red will still be fast and force the meta to have answers. The deck is going to be pretty similar if it gets a decent 4 drop, or it can go BR for exava and more options.
So I'll say the God's all see a drop in price, with Thassa being likely the best in conjunction with Jace and things.
If you want some honest advice, don't follow this advice, Its all pretty much bad. Buying cards at pre-release price is a pure gamble. For the handful of winners you may get you will lose your shirt more on the majorette of losers.
Have a helicopter drop you off out front. Light your cigar with a small Indonesian boy holding a black lotus. Then bust out a craw wurm deck with no sleeves. Raw dog shuffle, loose terribly, flip the table, leave in a hovercraft.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
xenagos is easily a $40 card off the bat. Red/Green has strong cards as it is, not to mention on of the best curves right now. turn 1 elf, turn 2 domri, turn 3 xenagos. Why not.
Red/Green has some of the best aggro creatures right now and 3 very playable planeswalkers (6CMC Garruk, Domri, xenagos)
This set has a surprising amount of playable mythics, but the prices are kind of depressing as it stands. Will probably have to wait until this product gets opened a bunch before I can start deck-building in earnest.
most of these seem wrong. thanks for the contribution and all but...
people are going to open this set by the truckload.
for example, thespian's stage is played in a t2 legacy deck and actually goes into every edh deck and it's .99. even if nykthos sees marginal standard play it will be a $2 card. compare also to township, which saw tons of play as 2-of in standard and modern and is ridiculous in edh, and saw a peak of $3.
to be fair no time frame was stated for a lot of these, so it's conceivable that the dragon and a few other mythics will go up a bit in week one and two before they crash.
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Fleecemane Lion's destiny depends on wraths printed on the set. He isn't hard to get rid of on the first turns anyway (even the recently spoiled Lightning Strike kills it, same turn the Lion comes down), and the Monstruosity ability is kind of expensive to only add +1/+1 to its stats. He is not intended to carry on auras in early game.This would be more a four-dollar-card than an 8 or more. It is a Kalonian Tusker most of the time.
Fixed Thoughtseize description, maybe people thought I was talking about an instant increase. It is an investment card indeed, but it takes time. It could go down to $15 in a moment, and then going up again, kind of tricky.
most of these seem wrong. thanks for the contribution and all but...
people are going to open this set by the truckload.
for example, thespian's stage is played in a t2 legacy deck and actually goes into every edh deck and it's .99. even if nykthos sees marginal standard play it will be a $2 card. compare also to township, which saw tons of play as 2-of in standard and modern and is ridiculous in edh, and saw a peak of $3.
Thank you for the feedback, I consider everything we speak in here for a better opinion in cards
Nykthos is a card that could be nuts in legacy and other formats, it is like a Gaea's Cradle which requires 2 more mana to activate (which is an disadvantage). Gaea's Cradle is used mostly in monogreen decks, and Nykthos is benefited in mono-colored decks. Unlike Thespian Stage[/CARD], which requires you to get the correct land in play, this one works on its own, depending more of your many other cards.
This is a multiple-mana generator card, and unlike the cradle, it counts the mana symbols on your board. Not only counts your colored creatures, but a Boros Reckoner can be counted as 3 mana instead of 1 for example, and the enchantments, planeswalkers and colored artifacts matter too.
Here again, a list showing up how are the initial prices showing up. Some of them are pretty obvious, and some of them are traps. We still have a long way to go, but then. Here we are:
10.- Underworld Cerberus $9.99: Nice body and pseudo-unblockable. We don't know how useful will be its graveyard lock, but its ability when it dies seems like an awesome way to keep on the pressure after wrath. Aggro decks would love this, giving them a chance for mid-game.
9.- Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx $9.99: In my humble opinion, this is a card that must be followed-up closely, it has a lot of potential for more formats than standard. Monocolored EDH decks will love this, and gruul ones too with BTE still active. I'm sure it will increase on price.
8.- Nylea, God of the Hunt $14.99: It seems a good card, but it only works well if you're able to have the devotion, which luckily, doesn't seem to be a problem for green. I don't think this card will keep its price, it will lower down for sure, but time will tell.
7.- Erebos, God of the Dead $19.99: Most of the time, it will be Greed in a shell. Although this is a good card, the price isn't worth it, so I think it will lower down too.
6.- Elspeth, Sun's Champion $24.99: A pretty nice planeswalker which can end games by herself. She can work as a pseudo-wrath or as pressure. For its cmc, maybe it will go to $15 someday, but playability will tell.
5.- Purphoros, God of the Forge $24.99: Many persons consider this the best god among the five, and they are right. Its ability is in the proper color, and monored aggro will thank this a lot. Not many problems to become a creature, and the ability is good by itself. It may stay like this.
4.- Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver $24.99: Planeswalker usually go around this price when released, and them they lower down. Ashiok may see a fate between $10 and $18, because, although is not a bad planeswalker, its standard playability is still kind of questionable.
3.-Stormbreath Dragon $24.99: Many say this is Thundermaw Hellkite substitute, and it is not very far from it. Is a very playable dragon, which can hurt against control decks with its monstruosity. It will keep the price as long as it stays on standard, or settle up in $30. Hard to tell, since -1/-1 compared with its ancestor is something to think about.
2.- Thoughtseize $29.99: It will increase, but won't be instantly. Probably after rotation. I may expect this one to be on $15 (at the very least) until the next expansion, but it could see and stay at $25. Then it will be increasing eventually again. Reprinted cards usually reach almost the same price as their antecesors, just a little lower.
1.- Xenagos, the Reveler $39.99: The chase mythic right now. Gaea's Cradle in a stick with a little more versatility, or a hasty token's generator, both skill are awesome indeed. It will barely see its ultimate, since almost all the time you're making tokens, and sometimes adding more mana for heavy stuff. Pretty nice card, with uncertain future after rotation. If it manages to be playable in modern, it will stay in price for sure.
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As such i think as good as the God's are they may be a bit slow, and not do enough. Red will still be fast and force the meta to have answers. The deck is going to be pretty similar if it gets a decent 4 drop, or it can go BR for exava and more options.
So I'll say the God's all see a drop in price, with Thassa being likely the best in conjunction with Jace and things.
the new duals are not revealed too :D.
Ashiok, erebos will tank.
But thassa and bow of nylea are both missing from your list. Theyre around 20 right niw. Think at least the bow will hold.
EDH:
Niv-Mizzet
Legacy:
The Rack
Modern
Venser, the Sojourner Control
Red/Green has some of the best aggro creatures right now and 3 very playable planeswalkers (6CMC Garruk, Domri, xenagos)
people are going to open this set by the truckload.
for example, thespian's stage is played in a t2 legacy deck and actually goes into every edh deck and it's .99. even if nykthos sees marginal standard play it will be a $2 card. compare also to township, which saw tons of play as 2-of in standard and modern and is ridiculous in edh, and saw a peak of $3.
to be fair no time frame was stated for a lot of these, so it's conceivable that the dragon and a few other mythics will go up a bit in week one and two before they crash.
Check out my weekly EDH column on General Damage Control, "Three Cards Deep," every Friday evening.
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Fixed Thoughtseize description, maybe people thought I was talking about an instant increase. It is an investment card indeed, but it takes time. It could go down to $15 in a moment, and then going up again, kind of tricky.
Weird Idea of the Month (Standard)
RGWNaya Token CommandoWGR
Rate/discuss my decks :D(almost all formats)
Standard
Orzhov Voltron Superheroes
Modern
Infectors
Legacy
UGBack to Square OneGU
EDH
GWURafiq of the Many Wins (1vs1)UWG
Jarad's Turbo Suicidal Squad (Multiplayer)
Pauper
Are you Afraid of Ghosts? You Better Be!
Thank you for the feedback, I consider everything we speak in here for a better opinion in cards
Nykthos is a card that could be nuts in legacy and other formats, it is like a Gaea's Cradle which requires 2 more mana to activate (which is an disadvantage). Gaea's Cradle is used mostly in monogreen decks, and Nykthos is benefited in mono-colored decks. Unlike Thespian Stage[/CARD], which requires you to get the correct land in play, this one works on its own, depending more of your many other cards.
This is a multiple-mana generator card, and unlike the cradle, it counts the mana symbols on your board. Not only counts your colored creatures, but a Boros Reckoner can be counted as 3 mana instead of 1 for example, and the enchantments, planeswalkers and colored artifacts matter too.
Weird Idea of the Month (Standard)
RGWNaya Token CommandoWGR
Rate/discuss my decks :D(almost all formats)
Standard
Orzhov Voltron Superheroes
Modern
Infectors
Legacy
UGBack to Square OneGU
EDH
GWURafiq of the Many Wins (1vs1)UWG
Jarad's Turbo Suicidal Squad (Multiplayer)
Pauper
Are you Afraid of Ghosts? You Better Be!
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