They told me to stay silent. They told me my life would be in danger if I said anything to anyone about what I saw. I was the Hasbro spy, and I turned my spy powers towards the great unknown that was... WOTC! Some may say me mad for spying on a subdivision of my own company, but I knew I was right when I glimpsed six blacksymboled forms and a trio of silver ruined rarities!
Monmouth's Travels 1GG
Instant
Unburden 1G (Whenever a green creature you control goes to the graveyard from play, you may play this spell for it's unburden cost.)
For each creature card in your graveyard, search your library for a basic land card and remove it from the game, then shuffle your library. Each player chooses a land card removed from the game in this way and puts it into play under your control.
Could my eyes deceive? Such a strange bequeathal! But nature's gift was not to be undone!
This tiny beast almost scared me off, but I ventured on...
Echtrabranch Elder 2GG
Creature – Elder Treefolk
Whenever a creature you control is put into the graveyard from play, if Echtrabranch Elder is in your graveyard, you may return Echtrabranch Elder to your hand.
2/4
What madness had I uncovered? It was only the beginning though…
Stifling Strength 1B
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant Creature
Enchanted Creature gets -2,-2 and has Trample.
What a profound curse! But hidden nearby a cure for the common cold...
Goldenrod Curtain 1W
Enchantment
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, gain 1 life.
One more blacksymboled guardian stood in my path:
Riverbed Merchant 1U
Creature - Merfolk Rogue
Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may pay U. If you do, draw a card.
1/2
An astounding engine it is to... but not to be undone! The silverland draws near!!
Echtraen Brute 2R
Creature - Giant Rogue
When Echtraen Brute attacks, each defending player may discard a card at random. If a creature card is discarded in this way, it's controller may put it into play blocking Echtraen Brute.
Trample
3/3
What a fearsome beast, but it cowers at fires most fowl!
Flametouched Voyeur 1RR Creature - Elemental Wizard
Haste, Evoke 1R
Tap: Flametouched Voyeur deals 2 damage to target creature or player and two damage to you.
2/2
Lastly, as the alarm sounded, I spotted this engine most foul:
Retold Tales U
Sorcery
Search your library for a card with the same name as one in target opponent's graveyard, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your library.
Restoration 1U (You may play this spell for it's restoration cost. If the spell was played in this way, put it on top of it's owner's library as it resolves).
Will this humble spy survive what awaits him? Can any of us afford not to look the other way? That I cannot say...
Can we just get a kickban here, please?
Every time this guy posts here we get in the same fight. He's posted proven fakes before. Keep him from generating flame wars by nipping him at the bud.
If these are real, is Lorwyn going to have a major multiplayer theme? Cards that are more effective in multiplayer are nothing new, but Monmouth's Travels and Goldenrod Curtain seem specifically designed for it. I know it doesn't look like it would flavor-wise, but could Imperial Mask be from this set/block?
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So not buying it.
Not only do I have no patience for lame stories and drawn out language such as the first poster used...some of these cards make no sense.
Tumbler Vixen is a beast?
A 2/2 beast with Shroud and Provoke?
The flavor of a 'Vixen' with Provoke is that it wouldn't be a beast, one would think.
It would be much more easily a Dryad or Elf.
Fake.
Flametouched Voyeur
Uhh...why would it be a Voyeur? That is just silly. That and its evoke ability is terrible. (compared to how efficient Shriekmaw is)
Faaaake card is faaake.
The Unburden card is just silly.
I call fake bigtime, just on the logic of the cards, but obviously I can't prove it.
I'm inclined to disbelieve this, Hasbrospy is a 1st time poster, and apart from some strangeness in the wordings, there is also the fact that the Vixen has provoke a keyword mechanic from onslaught block(possible return but a bit strange), the Strength gives trample which is strange for a black card, Unburden is a weird mechanic especially since with that wording it's a mono green mechanic(making the name very weird), Restoration is a far too strong mechanic(and strangely worded) since it's basically a once a turn buyback/flashback in exchange for skipping your draw and it also has the benefit of hosing mill win conditions, Also what's the point of Evoke on the Voyeur(weird name with ero implications) since it would have to be sacrificed before doing anything. Goldenrod Curtain's name is strange and makes me think of Pokemon(Goldenrod City).
All in all it's just a bit too weird for my tastes. Profound appologies to Hasbrospy if it is actually true.
These look about as legit as they come. It seems (from these cards, anyways) Lorwyn emphasizes complex card interaction/combo over cards that are useful from a raw force perspective.
Quick question about the evoker, I've seen some discussion on the whole being able to pull off blink tricks and what not, and the subsequent shooting down of it, but doesn't that mean you wouldn't be able to use the creatures own ability if you played it with evoke?
scans would be niuce, but artists names and card numbers would do me. these could easily be real, i like the red trampler, a very flavorful card it seems to me
So not buying it.
Not only do I have no patience for lame stories and drawn out language such as the first poster used...some of these cards make no sense.
Tumbler Vixen is a beast?
A 2/2 beast with Shroud and Provoke?
The flavor of a 'Vixen' with Provoke is that it wouldn't be a beast, one would think.
It would be much more easily a Dryad or Elf.
Fake.
Flametouched Voyeur
Uhh...why would it be a Voyeur? That is just silly. That and its evoke ability is terrible. (compared to how efficient Shriekmaw is)
Faaaake card is faaake.
The Unburden card is just silly.
I call fake bigtime, just on the logic of the cards, but obviously I can't prove it.
Remember last rumor season when all you guys posted incredibly lame stories with every single card revealed? And stupid riddles and puzzles everytime? "Oh my fortune cookies have cards in them! *crack*" I'm sure you do.
A vixen is a female fox, not an elf. A fox is a beast. I don't think your sense of flavor for a block you know nothing about is good enough to dispel any cards.
Also, just because a card isn't as good as another one with the same ability doesn't mean it's fake. Life from the Loam is way more eloquent and powerful than some of the other cards with dredge.
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But completely disregarding everything above, IMO the best song ever is Beer by Reel Big Fish. It is one of those songs like Iron Man and Back in Black and Money and Stairway. It is just completely lightning in a bottle and it is so rare to find that. So there you go, my answer.
Also, just because a card isn't as good as another one with the same ability doesn't mean it's fake. Life from the Loam is way more eloquent and powerful than some of the other cards with dredge.
For an uncommon evoke cycle spread across colors, (as we heavily speculated) the power level between cards shouldn't be so clearly disparate. As said earlier, we aren't even sure if the card would work 'as intended', due to how Evoke may or may not work.
My bad about the fox thing, and I never said I was a fan of the silly story things either...
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(about the English language) It's kinda like a raft that was cobbled together from parts of three different boats and since then has been kept barely afloat with crude repairs every time a leak appeared.
For an uncommon evoke cycle spread across colors, (as we heavily speculated) the power level between cards shouldn't be so clearly disparate. As said earlier, we aren't even sure if the card would work 'as intended', due to how Evoke may or may not work.
My bad about the fox thing, and I never said I was a fan of the silly story things either...
There are a lot of cycles (if the two cards known are even part of one), that have weak points. Like the atog cycle in odyssey, I think there was one card in that cycle that was at a pretty different power level than the others. Or whatever the white creature in the lyrgouf cycle was really didn't see any play, or was as powerful as Mortivore or Terravore.
But completely disregarding everything above, IMO the best song ever is Beer by Reel Big Fish. It is one of those songs like Iron Man and Back in Black and Money and Stairway. It is just completely lightning in a bottle and it is so rare to find that. So there you go, my answer.
Interesting. I'd believe any of these cards to be things WotC would print. Not saying it's true or not; if not, you've done some very interesting innovation! These are all very interesting cards, it would take me a while to fabricate that many cards with that many interesting, yet printable abilities. I especially like the evoke one that taps to ping. You could probably do without the narration, but suffice to say I'm not convinced these aren't real.
Edit: Oh, and now that I bothered to read other people's posts:
Those of you that didn't know a Vixen was a female fox, FAIL.
Unburden could have unwritten text more like "whenever a creature that shares a color with the unburden cost is put into the graveyard from play...."
Voyer: should be Voyager? Also yes, that would assume that you can respond to evoke sac trigger, a hasted creature is fast enough to do that if you can indeed respond.
Monmouth's Travels 1GG
Instant
Unburden 1G (Whenever a green creature you control goes to the graveyard from play, you may play this spell for it's unburden cost.)
For each creature card in your graveyard, search your library for a basic land card and remove it from the game, then shuffle your library. Each player chooses a land card removed from the game in this way and puts it into play under your control.
Holy clunky wording batman! It took me several read-throughs for this to even make sense. This feels like Takklemaggot - like a card that has tons of text and takes quite a while for it to resolve. It definitely does not feel like a common.
Echtrabranch Elder 2GG
Creature – Elder Treefolk
Whenever a creature you control is put into the graveyard from play, if Echtrabranch Elder is in your graveyard, you may return Echtrabranch Elder to your hand.
2/4
Creature - Elder Treefolk? Why bring back the Elder creature type? The only other cards with that type are the elder dragon legends. (See: Nicol Bolas) It makes no sense to print it on a random treefolk.
It is, however, costed high enough to avoid Aluren shenanigans, which is a plus to it's believability.
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Stifling Strength 1B
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant Creature
Enchanted Creature gets -2,-2 and has Trample.
Flavor makes no sense. I understand that black can make creatures more feeble -- this has always been a part of it's color pie. But giving them trample while making them weaker? Doesn't make any sense. Additionally, the card is nothing to write home about.
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Goldenrod Curtain 1W
Enchantment
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, gain 1 life.
Finally, a card I could see them printing. This is believable. It can easily be printed as spoiled.
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Riverbed Merchant 1U
Creature - Merfolk Rogue
Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may pay U. If you do, draw a card.
1/2
Doesn't feel like a common, but printable. Seems decently powerful -- Riptide Pilferer anyone?
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Echtraen Brute 2R
Creature - Giant Rogue
When Echtraen Brute attacks, each defending player may discard a card at random. If a creature card is discarded in this way, it's controller may put it into play blocking Echtraen Brute.
Trample
3/3
Why isn't this rare? Random discard, wacky effect... It fits the bill for rare. Also, why is this a 'rogue'? Does it pickpocket people?
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Flametouched Voyeur 1RR Creature - Elemental Wizard
Haste, Evoke 1R
Tap: Flametouched Voyeur deals 2 damage to target creature or player and two damage to you.
2/2
Despite the strange name, this card is believable. If it is real it confirms that the sacrifice portion of Evoke is a triggered ability and not part of the resolution of the spell, meaning Momentary Blink is going to be BAH-ROKEN. Assuming it is true, of course.
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Retold Tales U
Sorcery
Search your library for a card with the same name as one in target opponent's graveyard, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your library.
Restoration 1U (You may play this spell for it's restoration cost. If the spell was played in this way, put it on top of it's owner's library as it resolves).
The effect is believable. The ability is not. WotC avoids abilities that result in stagnant game-states, which is precisely what Restoration creates. The card itself isn't overpowered, restoration is, however.
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And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
Unburden was a discard spell in scouge if im correct. Does anyone know when the last time a card name was also an ability. I can't come up with one so I would have to call fake.
Monmouth's Travels 1GG
Instant
Unburden 1G (Whenever a green creature you control goes to the graveyard from play, you may play this spell for it's unburden cost.)
For each creature card in your graveyard, search your library for a basic land card and remove it from the game, then shuffle your library. Each player chooses a land card removed from the game in this way and puts it into play under your control.
I had to read this 4 times to get it, and at common? This does not seem like the return to basics MaRo promised, still Unburden is a very plausible keyword. Sort of the reverse of Evoke, perfect for green.
Edit: Wouldn't a fox be a fox, not a beast? As established by Kamigawa.
Echtrabranch Elder 2GG
Creature – Elder Treefolk
Whenever a creature you control is put into the graveyard from play, if Echtrabranch Elder is in your graveyard, you may return Echtrabranch Elder to your hand.
2/4
This one ruined it. The other's seem to have quirky problems, but this one is easily simplified by removing the conditional "if" clause. "Whenever a creature is put into YOUR [yes, it could also be "a creature you control is put into A graveyard"] graveyard, you may return ~this~ from your graveyard to your hand." Or something like that.
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Unburden was a discard spell in legions if im correct. Does anyone know when the last time a card name was also an ability. I can't come up with one so I would have to call fake.
Unburden was a discard spell in scouge if im correct. Does anyone know when the last time a card name was also an ability. I can't come up with one so I would have to call fake.
Onto the cards: I'm with urzas here... two in particularly look like they could be kinda too powerful for commons (Monmouth's Travels in particular). I call fake as well.
Monmouth's Travels 1GG
Instant
Unburden 1G (Whenever a green creature you control goes to the graveyard from play, you may play this spell for it's unburden cost.)
For each creature card in your graveyard, search your library for a basic land card and remove it from the game, then shuffle your library. Each player chooses a land card removed from the game in this way and puts it into play under your control.
Could my eyes deceive? Such a strange bequeathal! But nature's gift was not to be undone!
Tumbler Vixen 1GG
Creature - Beast
Provoke, Shroud
2/2
This tiny beast almost scared me off, but I ventured on...
Echtrabranch Elder 2GG
Creature – Elder Treefolk
Whenever a creature you control is put into the graveyard from play, if Echtrabranch Elder is in your graveyard, you may return Echtrabranch Elder to your hand.
2/4
What madness had I uncovered? It was only the beginning though…
Stifling Strength 1B
Enchantment - Aura
Enchant Creature
Enchanted Creature gets -2,-2 and has Trample.
What a profound curse! But hidden nearby a cure for the common cold...
Goldenrod Curtain 1W
Enchantment
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, gain 1 life.
One more blacksymboled guardian stood in my path:
Riverbed Merchant 1U
Creature - Merfolk Rogue
Whenever an opponent discards a card, you may pay U. If you do, draw a card.
1/2
An astounding engine it is to... but not to be undone! The silverland draws near!!
Echtraen Brute 2R
Creature - Giant Rogue
When Echtraen Brute attacks, each defending player may discard a card at random. If a creature card is discarded in this way, it's controller may put it into play blocking Echtraen Brute.
Trample
3/3
What a fearsome beast, but it cowers at fires most fowl!
Flametouched Voyeur 1RR
Creature - Elemental Wizard
Haste, Evoke 1R
Tap: Flametouched Voyeur deals 2 damage to target creature or player and two damage to you.
2/2
Lastly, as the alarm sounded, I spotted this engine most foul:
Retold Tales U
Sorcery
Search your library for a card with the same name as one in target opponent's graveyard, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Shuffle your library.
Restoration 1U (You may play this spell for it's restoration cost. If the spell was played in this way, put it on top of it's owner's library as it resolves).
Will this humble spy survive what awaits him? Can any of us afford not to look the other way? That I cannot say...
Quick question - what's a troll?
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, gain one life? Shouldnt it be you gain one life?
Not only do I have no patience for lame stories and drawn out language such as the first poster used...some of these cards make no sense.
Tumbler Vixen is a beast?
A 2/2 beast with Shroud and Provoke?
The flavor of a 'Vixen' with Provoke is that it wouldn't be a beast, one would think.
It would be much more easily a Dryad or Elf.
Fake.
Flametouched Voyeur
Uhh...why would it be a Voyeur? That is just silly. That and its evoke ability is terrible. (compared to how efficient Shriekmaw is)
Faaaake card is faaake.
The Unburden card is just silly.
I call fake bigtime, just on the logic of the cards, but obviously I can't prove it.
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All in all it's just a bit too weird for my tastes. Profound appologies to Hasbrospy if it is actually true.
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Remember last rumor season when all you guys posted incredibly lame stories with every single card revealed? And stupid riddles and puzzles everytime? "Oh my fortune cookies have cards in them! *crack*" I'm sure you do.
A vixen is a female fox, not an elf. A fox is a beast. I don't think your sense of flavor for a block you know nothing about is good enough to dispel any cards.
Also, just because a card isn't as good as another one with the same ability doesn't mean it's fake. Life from the Loam is way more eloquent and powerful than some of the other cards with dredge.
For an uncommon evoke cycle spread across colors, (as we heavily speculated) the power level between cards shouldn't be so clearly disparate. As said earlier, we aren't even sure if the card would work 'as intended', due to how Evoke may or may not work.
My bad about the fox thing, and I never said I was a fan of the silly story things either...
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edit: I too, was unaware that "Vixen" was a female fox.
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And yes, those silly stories basically gave anyone with a goofy idea the excuse to post in the Mill just to share the stories, not the cards.
There are a lot of cycles (if the two cards known are even part of one), that have weak points. Like the atog cycle in odyssey, I think there was one card in that cycle that was at a pretty different power level than the others. Or whatever the white creature in the lyrgouf cycle was really didn't see any play, or was as powerful as Mortivore or Terravore.
Edit: Oh, and now that I bothered to read other people's posts:
Those of you that didn't know a Vixen was a female fox, FAIL.
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Voyer: should be Voyager? Also yes, that would assume that you can respond to evoke sac trigger, a hasted creature is fast enough to do that if you can indeed respond.
Whenever a green creature you control goes to the graveyard from play,
Goes to the graveyard? Is that a new wording instead of put into a graveyard from play? Seems kinda fishy.
Feasible if not for the name, which is nonsense.
Creature - Elder Treefolk? Why bring back the Elder creature type? The only other cards with that type are the elder dragon legends. (See: Nicol Bolas) It makes no sense to print it on a random treefolk.
It is, however, costed high enough to avoid Aluren shenanigans, which is a plus to it's believability.
Flavor makes no sense. I understand that black can make creatures more feeble -- this has always been a part of it's color pie. But giving them trample while making them weaker? Doesn't make any sense. Additionally, the card is nothing to write home about.
Finally, a card I could see them printing. This is believable. It can easily be printed as spoiled.
Doesn't feel like a common, but printable. Seems decently powerful -- Riptide Pilferer anyone?
Why isn't this rare? Random discard, wacky effect... It fits the bill for rare. Also, why is this a 'rogue'? Does it pickpocket people?
Despite the strange name, this card is believable. If it is real it confirms that the sacrifice portion of Evoke is a triggered ability and not part of the resolution of the spell, meaning Momentary Blink is going to be BAH-ROKEN. Assuming it is true, of course.
The effect is believable. The ability is not. WotC avoids abilities that result in stagnant game-states, which is precisely what Restoration creates. The card itself isn't overpowered, restoration is, however.
And so does not lose the enemy's defeat.
Therefore, the victorious military is first victorious and after that does battle.
The defeated military first does battle and after that seeks victory."
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I had to read this 4 times to get it, and at common? This does not seem like the return to basics MaRo promised, still Unburden is a very plausible keyword. Sort of the reverse of Evoke, perfect for green.
Edit: Wouldn't a fox be a fox, not a beast? As established by Kamigawa.
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Recover
Dredge
More on the way, I'm sure....
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etc, etc.
as for Unburden and green, look at the reminder text for Tolaria West
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