I guess that fact means you can't dismiss it being Abyssal Specter other than "they shouldn't waste good art and booster pack space on that card".
But I think they would have put Icy Manipulator on the packs because its a well known card. Same way it would have been alright to put Juggernaut on the packs.
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Like others have said, the fact that the art has been taken down is pretty good evidence that Hyppie will indeed be in 9th.
The fact that the art has been taken down is only evidence that the art will be in 9th... The art is on the packs, thus it will be in 9th...
For those arguing that uncommons do not get put on packs:
- Icy Manipulator from Mirrodin
- Etched Oracle from Fifth Dawn
For those arguing that only memorable cards get put on packs:
- Sliptide Serpent from Nemesis (Kudos to who knows that card without clicking the link)
- Etched Oracle from Fifth Dawn
And finally, for those arguing that it's hippie just because the caption said so, the caption is mislabeled on another art on that page, scroll up to see it... Hypnotic Specter does not have enough evidence, get over it...
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I am sure people have seen this quote before, but here it is again. This only reinforces the hypnotic specter argument, as it is clearly a surprising return and one of magics greatest hits.
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And finally, for those arguing that it's hippie just because the caption said so, the caption is mislabeled on another art on that page, scroll up to see it... Hypnotic Specter does not have enough evidence, get over it...
The hyppie does have lots of evidence for and none against that cant be rebutted. And the only mislabelings are already explained if you managed to read the thread.. some arts were mooved around.
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The fact that the art has been taken down is only evidence that the art will be in 9th... The art is on the packs, thus it will be in 9th...
For those arguing that uncommons do not get put on packs:
- Icy Manipulator from Mirrodin
- Etched Oracle from Fifth Dawn
For those arguing that only memorable cards get put on packs:
- Sliptide Serpent from Nemesis (Kudos to who knows that card without clicking the link)
- Etched Oracle from Fifth Dawn
And finally, for those arguing that it's hippie just because the caption said so, the caption is mislabeled on another art on that page, scroll up to see it... Hypnotic Specter does not have enough evidence, get over it...
I win...
The art is on the BOX, not on the packs... the art on the box has ALWAYS been a rare.
You lose. Trying to outsmart us + being an ass - knowing the info before actually posting makes a very very bad equation to you.
not that this helps either side of this argument, but the following pic is over on the beckett magic price guide subscription page (here's the link to the page). hyppie or not i'm glad someone's taking over the slack left by stupid inquest (now with no priceguide, it's just a piece of crap magazine).
aNia_: The inquest price guide were a big piece of crap
But I think that this prooves it even more. The only other relaistic specter we have to be in 9th is abyssal specter and now we have this specter on the booster box, frong cover of the new magic magazine and even on an official tshirt!! come on! do you really think that abysaal friggin specter would get all this hype and honor? It really shoudnt be any doubt that its hyppie as its really the only specter iconic enough to be on booster boxes, tshirts and the front cover...
I jus mean.. come on!!
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aNia_: The inquest price guide were a big piece of crap
But I think that this prooves it even more. The only other relaistic specter we have to be in 9th is abyssal specter and now we have this specter on the booster box, frong cover of the new magic magazine and even on an official tshirt!! come on! do you really think that abysaal friggin specter would get all this hype and honor? It really shoudnt be any doubt that its hyppie as its really the only specter iconic enough to be on booster boxes, tshirts and the front cover...
I jus mean.. come on!!
as for the craptasticness of inquest's price guides... i always thought they were better than scrye; if not better then at least less inflated. nowadays, however, i can pretty much garner whatever prices i need from ebay and online shops [hint: they're worth less than they sell for there] so the loss of the guide is okay... i'm more pissed that i paid for 12 issues and only got to use 4 of them before they ripped the guide... i mean c'mon... if i wanted articles on good cas decks i'd read any FREE ones i could find on the myriad of sites across the web. plus i'll subscribe to ign or some other equally respectable video gaming mag over inquest anyday.
but, to stay on topic...
if memory serves me correctly they took another uncommon black card (sengir vampire) and made it rare when they reprinted it in black border. random discard aside, it doesn't seem too farfetched that hypnotic specter be reprinted, albeit white bordered.
i agree with nan: there's too many instances of this pic for it to NOT be hyppie.
to those that say 'hyppie never rode anything' i say this: they change artists all the time on cards and with that change come alternate artwork. just because he didn't ride something before doesn't mean he can't now.
furthermore, would you rather have the schuler art in foil or this version (damn you schuler fans for the flames i'm sure to get :D)? i know i'd take the latter any day, and if that means my hyppies have to ride some sort of winged hellbeast instead of floating around on a ghostly tail thingy, then so be it.
The art is on the BOX, not on the packs... the art on the box has ALWAYS been a rare.
I wouldn't put it past WotC to bump Hypnotic Specter to Rare (if it does appear in 9th, that is)... They've played with rarities before (Story Circle, Cop: Red)
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People are still doubting even though theres enough hippie evidence to fill the void in the universe.......WOW.......
Id love to see the doubters at the prerelease and open a 9th box and a hippie in it and shove it straight into their ***!!! *sighs* a guy can dream.....
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
Can somebody translate that please?
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People are still doubting even though theres enough hippie evidence to fill the void in the universe.......WOW.......
Id love to see the doubters at the prerelease and open a 9th box and a hippie in it and shove it straight into their ***!!! *sighs* a guy can dream.....
first off: love your 'tar. spike is the man.
i don't know why you're dreaming about shoving a hyppie into someone's butt... though i'd share in your delight, i think i'd rather keep the hyppie for myself. unless it's an untaidake, the cloud keeper, i won't let any of my cards near someone's behind no matter who's putting them there.
i don't know why you're dreaming about shoving a hyppie into someone's butt... though i'd share in your delight, i think i'd rather keep the hyppie for myself. unless it's an untaidake, the cloud keeper, i won't let any of my cards near someone's behind no matter who's putting them there.
-aNia_
Yes Spike Spiegel is the *beep* and as much as I dont want to waste a good Hyppie, all this BS about whether or not Hyppie is getting reprinted is getting really annoying. Its been confimed on the news section weeks ago and I dont see why people still cant accept it. If you dont want it in T2, fine, go play in Vintage and get owned the 1st turn. Its an awesome card no doubt, but I doubt itll get alot of play in T2. Prime Examples are Icy Manipulator and Juggernaut. Both very powerful legendary cards, but when it got reprinted, it didnt see alot of play coz theres better cards out there to put in ppls decks. So "WHEN" Hyppie comes, dont get all scared like its the end of the world, its a threat that can be prevented. Thank You.
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
Can somebody translate that please?
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Dunno if anyone replied to my first post but again..... abyssal is not a RARE they will not put it up on a booster box. Unless they have put a common or uncommon on a booster box. if so please post a link. until then i stand by its not rare so it wont be abyssal.
EDIT: I should elaborate a bit more. i know hyppie is not a rare either, but it was printed so long ago it is possible to make it rare. Look at hurricane it started out as an uncommon and moved to rare later on. The most logical specter in my mind is tainted specter. Not overpowered,no combo that i can think of that will "win you the game". to be honest either or would be nice to see again. oldies are always good.
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so no one bothered to contact Greg himself and ask? granted he might not answer or be allowed to say for sure, but i seem to remember us getting info from artists before.
Yes Spike Spiegel is the *beep* and as much as I dont want to waste a good Hyppie, all this BS about whether or not Hyppie is getting reprinted is getting really annoying. Its been confimed on the news section weeks ago and I dont see why people still cant accept it. If you dont want it in T2, fine, go play in Vintage and get owned the 1st turn. Its an awesome card no doubt, but I doubt itll get alot of play in T2. Prime Examples are Icy Manipulator and Juggernaut. Both very powerful legendary cards, but when it got reprinted, it didnt see alot of play coz theres better cards out there to put in ppls decks. So "WHEN" Hyppie comes, dont get all scared like its the end of the world, its a threat that can be prevented. Thank You.
juggy and icy did not see type 2 play because there were no type 2 decks to support them (and there still arent). In type 1 juggernaut is the beat stick of a rather popular deck called 5/3 ([sarcasm]hmmm. I wonder why it's called 5/3?[/sarcasm]) icy, I must addmit while a great card is not being played much any more.
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fraction man: there is lots of evidence for it and it prolly will be good but its really not broken.. its an okey creature but its easily shot down and its really not all powerfull.. :/
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Its a solid black creaute, but nothing special in this environment. I mean, if im running black, i would definitely run this, as even getting a 2-3 card advantage and hitting for 2 is good, but by no means does this warp the format.
I agree with nan and StevieT92. I've said this so many times as with the others, and heres what:
Dont be scared of the Hyppie!!! It is a card that can be stopped in so many ways so therefore its not broken. With no ritual, it makes the card that much more powerless so plz any posts from this point forward:
No more "Hyppie is so broken, etc..." posts plz im beggin ya!!!
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
Can somebody translate that please?
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
Can somebody translate that please?
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As far as I know, this pic and card has already been confirmed so can we please lock this thread coz its just becoming a spam thread:cool:
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i think this card is Freakin' awesome just imagine zoo with this even on the draw u flex "Nutz" any mana drawing the extra card u can pitch and turning up the gas on tempo and it still taps for mana easily a 3 of most likely a 4 of
Can somebody translate that please?
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Hmmmm?
Let's see.
Icy Manipulator from Mirrodin.
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But I think they would have put Icy Manipulator on the packs because its a well known card. Same way it would have been alright to put Juggernaut on the packs.
The fact that the art has been taken down is only evidence that the art will be in 9th... The art is on the packs, thus it will be in 9th...
For those arguing that uncommons do not get put on packs:
- Icy Manipulator from Mirrodin
- Etched Oracle from Fifth Dawn
For those arguing that only memorable cards get put on packs:
- Sliptide Serpent from Nemesis (Kudos to who knows that card without clicking the link)
- Etched Oracle from Fifth Dawn
And finally, for those arguing that it's hippie just because the caption said so, the caption is mislabeled on another art on that page, scroll up to see it... Hypnotic Specter does not have enough evidence, get over it...
I win...
I am sure people have seen this quote before, but here it is again. This only reinforces the hypnotic specter argument, as it is clearly a surprising return and one of magics greatest hits.
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The hyppie does have lots of evidence for and none against that cant be rebutted. And the only mislabelings are already explained if you managed to read the thread.. some arts were mooved around.
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The art is on the BOX, not on the packs... the art on the box has ALWAYS been a rare.
You lose. Trying to outsmart us + being an ass - knowing the info before actually posting makes a very very bad equation to you.
Oh, and about mislabeled art, read the thread
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But I think that this prooves it even more. The only other relaistic specter we have to be in 9th is abyssal specter and now we have this specter on the booster box, frong cover of the new magic magazine and even on an official tshirt!! come on! do you really think that abysaal friggin specter would get all this hype and honor? It really shoudnt be any doubt that its hyppie as its really the only specter iconic enough to be on booster boxes, tshirts and the front cover...
I jus mean.. come on!!
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as for the craptasticness of inquest's price guides... i always thought they were better than scrye; if not better then at least less inflated. nowadays, however, i can pretty much garner whatever prices i need from ebay and online shops [hint: they're worth less than they sell for there] so the loss of the guide is okay... i'm more pissed that i paid for 12 issues and only got to use 4 of them before they ripped the guide... i mean c'mon... if i wanted articles on good cas decks i'd read any FREE ones i could find on the myriad of sites across the web. plus i'll subscribe to ign or some other equally respectable video gaming mag over inquest anyday.
but, to stay on topic...
if memory serves me correctly they took another uncommon black card (sengir vampire) and made it rare when they reprinted it in black border. random discard aside, it doesn't seem too farfetched that hypnotic specter be reprinted, albeit white bordered.
i agree with nan: there's too many instances of this pic for it to NOT be hyppie.
to those that say 'hyppie never rode anything' i say this: they change artists all the time on cards and with that change come alternate artwork. just because he didn't ride something before doesn't mean he can't now.
furthermore, would you rather have the schuler art in foil or this version (damn you schuler fans for the flames i'm sure to get :D)? i know i'd take the latter any day, and if that means my hyppies have to ride some sort of winged hellbeast instead of floating around on a ghostly tail thingy, then so be it.
-aNia_
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I wouldn't put it past WotC to bump Hypnotic Specter to Rare (if it does appear in 9th, that is)... They've played with rarities before (Story Circle, Cop: Red)
Id love to see the doubters at the prerelease and open a 9th box and a hippie in it and shove it straight into their ***!!! *sighs* a guy can dream.....
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first off: love your 'tar. spike is the man.
i don't know why you're dreaming about shoving a hyppie into someone's butt... though i'd share in your delight, i think i'd rather keep the hyppie for myself. unless it's an untaidake, the cloud keeper, i won't let any of my cards near someone's behind no matter who's putting them there.
-aNia_
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Yes Spike Spiegel is the *beep* and as much as I dont want to waste a good Hyppie, all this BS about whether or not Hyppie is getting reprinted is getting really annoying. Its been confimed on the news section weeks ago and I dont see why people still cant accept it. If you dont want it in T2, fine, go play in Vintage and get owned the 1st turn. Its an awesome card no doubt, but I doubt itll get alot of play in T2. Prime Examples are Icy Manipulator and Juggernaut. Both very powerful legendary cards, but when it got reprinted, it didnt see alot of play coz theres better cards out there to put in ppls decks. So "WHEN" Hyppie comes, dont get all scared like its the end of the world, its a threat that can be prevented. Thank You.
______zyrakris's gemstone caverns thread \/\/\/
EDIT: I should elaborate a bit more. i know hyppie is not a rare either, but it was printed so long ago it is possible to make it rare. Look at hurricane it started out as an uncommon and moved to rare later on. The most logical specter in my mind is tainted specter. Not overpowered,no combo that i can think of that will "win you the game". to be honest either or would be nice to see again. oldies are always good.
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Dont be scared of the Hyppie!!! It is a card that can be stopped in so many ways so therefore its not broken. With no ritual, it makes the card that much more powerless so plz any posts from this point forward:
No more "Hyppie is so broken, etc..." posts plz im beggin ya!!!
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huh? I thought Swampritualhyppie was one card.
It looks like Wizards is pushing black weenies up a notch, with Hand of Cruelty on board, too...
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